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18th Feb '18 1:24:32 PM nombretomado
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1st Feb '18 9:42:42 AM Luigifan
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* The player may not be on the lookout for it at first until Ringabel points it out later but [[spoiler: each and every world you visit]], Airy's wings change [[spoiler: as the worlds count down.]]

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* The player may not be on the lookout for it at first until Ringabel points it out later later, but [[spoiler: [[spoiler:for each and every world you visit]], Airy's wings change [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as the worlds count down.]]down]].



** [[spoiler: Ouroboros, in his very, definitely, final phase, states that he can see into the Celestial Realm. While you may overlook this as Boss Banter at first...later on, you can see something in the corner...an image of YOUR FACE, YOU THE PLAYER, superimposed over the upper-right corner of the screen, in what looks like a celestial body. This remains consistant, as the image disappears when this body is out of view. This could mean that, when Ouroboros mentioned invading the Celestial Realm, he was talking about THE VERY WORLD WE LIVE IN. Combined with the opening AR movie, the fact Ouroboros says Tiz is animated by a Celestial, making him an audience avatar, the fact that worlds you ablinked with are featured in the True Final Battle as alternate realities and the Special Movie available only in the For the Sequel and International releases is played out in a first-person perspective from Tiz's point of view, this moment alone cements just how insanely meta the game has suddenly become.]]

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** [[spoiler: Ouroboros, [[spoiler:Ouroboros, in his very, definitely, very definitely final phase, states that he can see into the Celestial Realm. While you may overlook this as Boss Banter BossBanter at first...later on, you can see something in the corner...an image of YOUR FACE, YOU THE PLAYER, superimposed over the upper-right corner of the screen, in what looks like a celestial body. This remains consistant, consistent, as the image disappears when this body is out of view. This could mean that, when Ouroboros mentioned invading the Celestial Realm, he was talking about THE VERY WORLD WE LIVE IN. Combined with the opening AR movie, the fact Ouroboros says Tiz is animated by a Celestial, making him an audience avatar, the fact that worlds you ablinked with are featured in the True Final Battle as alternate realities realities, and the Special Movie available only in the For the Sequel and International releases is played out in a first-person perspective from Tiz's point of view, this moment alone cements just how insanely meta the game has suddenly become.]]



** [[spoiler:If you pay attention to all the things he says he wants to bring to the Celestial realm, they all happen during the plot of the game. In an odd way, Ouroboros succeeded in his plan. Taking that in consideration you could say his plan was to entertain the player, which means all that death and destruction was for your sake, so you wouldn't be bored. This can be scary, as being a celestial you, yourself, are a god who set the story in motion, even letting Airy and Ouroboros run free the way they did, the true villain or the, BiggerBad, to Ouroboros' Bigger Bad is ''you''.]]
* The acknowledgment of [[spoiler: the player as an in-universe entity who helps the party along]] is kept pretty consistently. For example, the time between the events of Default and Second in-universe is about three years - and the time between the two games' release dates is the same.

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** [[spoiler:If you pay attention to all the things he says he wants to bring to the Celestial realm, they all happen during the plot of the game. In an odd way, Ouroboros succeeded in his plan. Taking that in consideration consideration, you could say his plan was to entertain the player, which means all that death and destruction was for your sake, so you wouldn't be bored. This can be scary, as being a celestial celestial, you, yourself, are a god who set the story in motion, even letting Airy and Ouroboros run free the way they did, did: the true villain villain, or the, the BiggerBad, to Ouroboros' Bigger Bad is ''you''.]]
* The acknowledgment of [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the player as an in-universe entity who helps the party along]] is kept pretty consistently. For example, the time between the events of Default and Second in-universe is about three years - and the time between the two games' release dates is the same.



* Ringabel likes coffee, [[spoiler: as does starting world counterpart, Alternis Dim. Being Dark Knights, it's only natural that they'd like it black. You're welcome.]]
* Breaking from the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' tradition of naming the currency "gil", Bravely Default instead uses the term "pg" (pronounced peeg). At first glance, this seems to be short for "pieces of gold" . . . but if you turn the lowercase letters upside-down, you get "bd" - as in Bravely Default. Or, alternatively, it could be a reversal of GP, which is what currency in the older ''FF'' games was denominated as until ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' onwards, when it was changed to Gil.
* Airy's likes and dislikes start to make a lot more sense towards the endgame. She likes Agnès because [[spoiler:she's the key to her whole plan of reviving Ouroboros]] and she dislikes Ringabel since [[spoiler: as a survivor of her last slaughter in his world, he is the biggest threat to her plans. Luckily for her, he got amnesia.]]

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* Ringabel likes coffee, [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as does his starting world counterpart, Alternis Dim. Being Dark Knights, it's only natural that they'd like it black. You're welcome.]]
* Breaking from the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' tradition of naming the currency "gil", Bravely Default instead uses the term "pg" (pronounced peeg). At first glance, this seems to be short for "pieces of gold" . . . gold"... but if you turn the lowercase letters upside-down, you get "bd" - as in Bravely Default. Or, alternatively, it could be a reversal of GP, which is what currency in the older ''FF'' games was denominated as until ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' onwards, when it was changed to Gil.
* Airy's likes and dislikes start to make a lot more sense towards the endgame. She likes Agnès because [[spoiler:she's the key to her whole plan of reviving Ouroboros]] and she dislikes Ringabel since [[spoiler: as [[spoiler:as a survivor of her last slaughter in his world, he is the biggest threat to her plans. Luckily for her, he got amnesia.]]



** Kind of a small one, but you find out that Asterisks contain knowledge of a job sort of like how Materia/Magicite could contain knowledge of an ability or magic. You also find out that originally the jobs could only be changed by paying the Orthodoxy to allow a person to interact with a crystal. So basically, originally jobs were bestowed by the crystals similar to FFIII. Basically Asterisks are Job Materia that bestow multiple abilities instead of just one and the knowledge was originally gotten from the experiences and memories of masters of the jobs that were added to the Crystals (similar as well to how Materia in FF7 came from the life stream which was also comprised of memories and spirits). Basically, this game links the Crystals with the Life Stream and Asterisks are basically an advanced form of Materia.

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** Kind of a small one, but you find out that Asterisks contain knowledge of a job job, sort of like how Materia/Magicite could contain knowledge of an ability or magic. You also find out that originally originally, the jobs could only be changed by paying the Orthodoxy to allow a person to interact with a crystal. So basically, originally jobs were bestowed by the crystals crystals, similar to FFIII. Basically Basically, Asterisks are Job Materia that bestow multiple abilities instead of just one and the knowledge was originally gotten from the experiences and memories of masters of the jobs that were added to the Crystals (similar as well to how Materia in FF7 [=FF7=] came from the life stream Lifestream, which was also comprised of memories and spirits). Basically, this game links the Crystals with the Life Stream Lifestream and Asterisks are basically an advanced form of Materia.



** And it also serves as a shout out to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' opening and zodiac stone plot... A warrior takes sword in hand, clasping a gem to his heart. Engraving vanishing memories into the sword, He places finely honed skills into the stone. Spoken from the sword, handed down from the stone... Now the story can be told... Basically, you learn their skills from the stone, or asterisk, and speack them through your blade, or whatever weapon you're using at the time.

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** And it also serves as a shout out to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' opening and zodiac stone plot... A warrior takes sword in hand, clasping a gem to his heart. Engraving vanishing memories into the sword, He he places finely honed skills into the stone. Spoken from the sword, handed down from the stone... Now the story can be told... Basically, you learn their skills from the stone, or asterisk, and speack them through your blade, or whatever weapon you're using at the time.



* Why is Ringabel's Mind stat so low when his Intelligence is fairly high? It's the result of his amnesia and [[spoiler: the SanitySlippage he endured even before then]]. This goes even further. Edea has the best strength and defense; why? She's the only one who actually knows how to fight because she was trained by Kamiizumi. Agnès has the best magic because she's the most devoted to the Crystals and is a Vestal. Tiz is the most balanced but has the worst MP? He's a farmer who thus would have to be well rounded in raising animals and crops.
* Why does [[spoiler: Sage Yulyana]] have access to skills from [[spoiler: three different classes (Conjurer, Pirate, and Time Mage for the first fight. Conjurer, White/Red Mage, Black Mage {as Red Mage cannot access Firaga}) instead of two, like everyone else]]? It's because [[spoiler: he created the job asterisk system to begin with. As such he probably knows how to go around the restriction.]]

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*** The Asterisks are stated to bestow a lifetime of skill and experience on the bearer. So, the gist of the above point is, combining that with ANOTHER lifetime of skill and experience leads to amazing results.
* Why is Ringabel's Mind stat so low when his Intelligence is fairly high? It's the result of his amnesia and [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the SanitySlippage he endured even before then]]. This goes even further. Edea has the best strength and defense; why? She's the only one who actually knows how to fight because she was trained by Kamiizumi. Agnès has the best magic because she's the most devoted to the Crystals and is a Vestal. Tiz is the most balanced but has the worst MP? He's a farmer who thus would have to be well rounded in raising animals and crops.
* Why does [[spoiler: Sage [[spoiler:Sage Yulyana]] have access to skills from [[spoiler: three [[spoiler:three different classes (Conjurer, Pirate, and Time Mage for the first fight. Conjurer, White/Red Mage, Black Mage {as Red Mage cannot access Firaga}) instead of two, like everyone else]]? It's because [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he created the job asterisk system to begin with. As such such, he probably knows how to go around the restriction.]]restriction]].



* Crosses with Fridge Horror, but [[spoiler: Ouroboros's battle theme is called "Serpent Eating The Horizon". The game's composer Revo is the leader of the band Linked Horizon. It seems the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou fourth wall was unable to protect his Celestial Realm.]]]]
* Ringabel's stat distribution seems to be perfect for [[spoiler: the Dark Knight Job. Given who he really is, this makes perfect sense.]]
* Why the 4 heroes of light had to go through that many worlds: [[spoiler: In all the worlds so far, Airy has murdered the heroes of light after exploiting them to summon the pillar of light, then seek out a new Agnès of the next world. Why did she not do the same for the current iteration of the 4 heroes? This is because in the last few worlds (chapter 5 onwards), the Agnès or Tiz or Edea of that world is/are already dead (Agnès protecting Olivia, Tiz saving Til, Edea killed by Ominas etc). She had no choice but to recycle her current heroes of light, despite the inclusion of Ringabel sabotaging her chances of being found out.]]

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* Crosses with Fridge Horror, but [[spoiler: Ouroboros's [[spoiler:Ouroboros's battle theme is called "Serpent Eating The Horizon". The game's composer Revo composer, Revo, is the leader of the band Linked Horizon. It seems the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou fourth wall was unable to protect his Celestial Realm.]]]]
* Ringabel's stat distribution seems to be perfect for [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Dark Knight Job. Given who he really is, this makes perfect sense.]]
sense]].
* Why the 4 heroes of light had to go through that many worlds: [[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In all the worlds so far, Airy has murdered the heroes of light after exploiting them to summon the pillar of light, then seek out a new Agnès of the next world. Why did she not do the same for the current iteration of the 4 heroes? This is because in the last few worlds (chapter 5 onwards), the Agnès or Tiz or Edea of that world is/are already dead (Agnès protecting Olivia, Tiz saving Til, Edea killed by Ominas Ominas, etc). She had no choice but to recycle her current heroes of light, despite the inclusion of Ringabel sabotaging her chances of being found out.]]



** Additionally, a rarely-used definition for the word 'default' is 'do nothing', so the title could read as 'with courage, do nothing'. That's exactly what the characters do towards the end of the game. [[spoiler: Rather than shattering a crystal, which they know will merely delay whatever it is Airy's planning and not actually stop it, they don't act on their suspicions and go along with Airy, choosing to face the danger head-on.]]
* Lategame spoilers: [[spoiler: Why does Norende's reconstruction continue after passing through the Holy Pillar? Because prior to departure, Tiz put ''Egil'' in charge of the reconstruction effort. Even if ''Tiz'' is absent and unable to give orders, Egil is there to sort things out on behalf of the player.]]

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** Additionally, a rarely-used definition for the word 'default' is 'do nothing', so the title could read as 'with courage, do nothing'. That's exactly what the characters do towards the end of the game. [[spoiler: Rather [[spoiler:Rather than shattering a crystal, which they know will merely delay whatever it is Airy's planning and not actually stop it, they don't act on their suspicions and go along with Airy, choosing to face the danger head-on.]]
* Lategame spoilers: [[spoiler: Why [[spoiler:Why does Norende's reconstruction continue after passing through the Holy Pillar? Because prior to departure, Tiz put ''Egil'' in charge of the reconstruction effort. Even if ''Tiz'' is absent and unable to give orders, Egil is there to sort things out on behalf of the player.]]
15th Jun '17 1:43:19 PM immortalfrieza
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** Why are the Asterisk Holders able to [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard do things with with abilities that the party never can,]] despite in many cases never being able to reach the level of combat experience the party can? It's because all of them have been in possession of those things for years, if not decades or in a couple cases even centuries, while the party has had them for a few months at the most. They're still restricted to the abilities that the Asterisks provide, but they've had the time to train each ability to reduce or eliminate the downsides of several of them, such as Praline removing the BP cost of "My Hero".
11th Mar '17 11:30:36 AM darkpuck
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* Speaking of Florem and its adminstration, the kindly old matriarch is [[AWolfinSheepsClothing far less innocent than she lets on.]] [[spoiler:When Ringabel and co. confront De Rosa in the first world, he brags about how he turned the Flower Festival into a beauty contest with just "a few bribes" to key officials. And while we can assume that there are others, who is the ONLY Florem official that we see in-game?]]

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* Speaking of Florem and its adminstration, administration, the kindly old matriarch is [[AWolfinSheepsClothing far less innocent than she lets on.]] [[spoiler:When Ringabel and co. confront De Rosa in the first world, he brags about how he turned the Flower Festival into a beauty contest with just "a few bribes" to key officials. And while we can assume that there are others, who is the ONLY Florem official that we see in-game?]]in-game?]]
* Using the Steal, Mug, or Shake Down command on the [[{{Mooks}} members of the Bloodrose Legion]] nets you fairy wings... and as Mephilia tells the party, the highly-coveted Spirit Hairpins are created by [[spoiler:ripping the wings off Flories -- the fairies worshipped by the women of Florem.]] Yeah.
21st Oct '16 3:14:27 AM DarkastKiller
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Her stat growths also lean towards being a white mage and healer, which makes sense since that's the class that learns the [[BlowYouAway Aero line]].

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Her **Her stat growths also lean towards being a white mage and healer, which makes sense since that's the class that learns the [[BlowYouAway Aero line]].
21st Oct '16 3:14:12 AM DarkastKiller
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Her stat growths also lean towards being a white mage and healer, which makes sense since that's the class that learns the [[BlowYouAway Aero line]].
16th Oct '16 9:44:07 AM nombretomado
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** And it also serves as a shout out to FinalFantasyTactics opening and zodiac stone plot... A warrior takes sword in hand, clasping a gem to his heart. Engraving vanishing memories into the sword, He places finely honed skills into the stone. Spoken from the sword, handed down from the stone... Now the story can be told... Basically, you learn their skills from the stone, or asterisk, and speack them through your blade, or whatever weapon you're using at the time.

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** And it also serves as a shout out to FinalFantasyTactics ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' opening and zodiac stone plot... A warrior takes sword in hand, clasping a gem to his heart. Engraving vanishing memories into the sword, He places finely honed skills into the stone. Spoken from the sword, handed down from the stone... Now the story can be told... Basically, you learn their skills from the stone, or asterisk, and speack them through your blade, or whatever weapon you're using at the time.



* If you listen closely, the LoveTheme "Under the Hollow Moon" is a more flourished version of [[FinalFantasyVI Terra Branford's theme]]. What was Terra's [[CharacterDevelopment whole problem]]? ''She didn't know what love is''.

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* If you listen closely, the LoveTheme "Under the Hollow Moon" is a more flourished version of [[FinalFantasyVI [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI Terra Branford's theme]]. What was Terra's [[CharacterDevelopment whole problem]]? ''She didn't know what love is''.
16th Jun '16 11:26:54 AM Discar
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* During the false ending, [[spoiler: Airy claims that she has been serving Ouroboros's goal of linking worlds for ''eleven hundred million years''. D's journal indicates that the events of chapters 1-4 take eight months. Assuming she's Slaughtered every group of Light Warriors until the events of the game, this means that she has gone through ''1,650,000,000 worlds''; if she hasn't, that number increases ''exponentially''.]]
** Fortunately [[spoiler: during the True Ending Ouroboros states that it's only tens of thousands of worlds, not millions, so presumably Airy's had to deal with broken crystals in more than a few worlds, although this implies that there have been worlds where the events of the false ending occurred and no angel saved Tiz, Ringabel, Edea, and Agnes.]]


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* During the false ending, [[spoiler: Airy claims that she has been serving Ouroboros's goal of linking worlds for ''eleven hundred million years''. D's journal indicates that the events of chapters 1-4 take eight months. Assuming she's Slaughtered every group of Light Warriors until the events of the game, this means that she has gone through ''1,650,000,000 worlds''; if she hasn't, that number increases ''exponentially''.]]
** Fortunately [[spoiler: during the True Ending Ouroboros states that it's only tens of thousands of worlds, not millions, so presumably Airy's had to deal with broken crystals in more than a few worlds, although this implies that there have been worlds where the events of the false ending occurred and no angel saved Tiz, Ringabel, Edea, and Agnes.]]


16th Jun '16 9:57:25 AM merritty
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\n** Fortunately [[spoiler: during the True Ending Ouroboros states that it's only tens of thousands of worlds, not millions, so presumably Airy's had to deal with broken crystals in more than a few worlds, although this implies that there have been worlds where the events of the false ending occurred and no angel saved Tiz, Ringabel, Edea, and Agnes.]]

24th May '16 8:02:22 PM transparentanswer
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** Turned UpToEleven in Bravely Second, when she [[spoiler:outright betrays the party (with some nudging from Anne) by awakening the crystals.]]
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