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** Or, worse, that he can see the faces. That he's looking at them.

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* After this troper heard complains about a certain marine not jumping from the destroyed building (or doing something else to get out) where he radioed in the strike coordinates this troper remembered that this marine was in the psychiatrist office in the beginning of the movie. He was actually not cleared for combat because of what sound like the lingering effects of PTSD. When you remember that it makes sense that the marine froze up when he did. YMMV on whether it should be considered FridgeBrilliance or just plain old FridgeLogic.
** He doesn't jump off the building because that's pretty much suicide; he's about five stories up. The only other option is running down the stairs, which wouldn't save him in time. He turns around, sees the drone staring right down at him, and has maybe a second to respond before it fires.
** [[JustEatGilligan Why didn't he just]] '''[[JustEatGilligan turn off the radio]]''' [[JustEatGilligan as soon as he called in the strike package]] - especially after what happened on the bus, when they did just that after realizing that the aliens could (and WOULD) home in on ANY human transmission? Sounds like a case of TooDumbToLive... [[InvokedTrope literally]].
** His intention may have originally been to leg it out of there, which is why he just dumped the radio where he did, in order to lure more BLAA to that location where they could easily be attacked. However, before he could start moving, he spotted a BLAA attempting to sneak up on Nantz, so he lined up a shot and took him out. In that time, a wedge drone arrived, and there was nowhere to run or hide.

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* After this troper heard complains about a certain marine not jumping from the destroyed building (or doing something else to get out) where he radioed in the strike coordinates this troper remembered that this marine was in the psychiatrist office in the beginning of the movie. He was actually not cleared for combat because of what sound like the lingering effects of PTSD. When you remember that it makes sense that the marine froze up when he did. YMMV on whether it should be considered FridgeBrilliance or just plain old FridgeLogic.
** He doesn't jump off the building because that's pretty much suicide; he's about five stories up. The only other option is running down the stairs, which wouldn't save him in time. He turns around, sees the drone staring right down at him, and has maybe a second to respond before it fires.
** [[JustEatGilligan Why didn't he just]] '''[[JustEatGilligan turn off the radio]]''' [[JustEatGilligan as soon as he called in the strike package]] - especially after what happened on the bus, when they did just that after realizing that the aliens could (and WOULD) home in on ANY human transmission? Sounds like a case of TooDumbToLive... [[InvokedTrope literally]].
** His intention may have originally been to leg it out of there, which is why he just dumped the radio where he did, in order to lure more BLAA to that location where they could easily be attacked. However, before he could start moving, he spotted a BLAA attempting to sneak up on Nantz, so he lined up a shot and took him out. In that time, a wedge drone arrived, and there was nowhere to run or hide.
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** The rapid depletion of sea water could be a proactive example of the old Roman tactic of poisonings wells. It hurts humans in numerous ways in both the short and long term. In the short term, it hurts our ability to get food from the sea, and it hinders sea travel for both military forces and commercial purposes. In the long term, it will wreck our agriculture and our environment. Even if this invasion fails, the environmental damage might make a second a cake walk. The only way to replace this water is with space travel. It will take massive amounts of effort, research, resources, and time. Meanwhile, the aliens could easily replace the water if their biology needs it.
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** His intention may have originally been to leg it out of there, which is why he just dumped the radio where he did, in order to lure more BLAA to that location where they could easily be attacked. However, before he could start moving, he spotted a BLAA attempting to sneak up on Nantz, so he lined up a shot and took him out. In that time, a wedge drone arrived, and there was nowhere to run or hide.
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** [[JustEatGilligan Why didn't he just]] '''[[JustEatGilligan turn off the radio]]''' [[JustEatGilligan as soon as he called in the strike package]] - especially after what happened on the bus, when they did just that after realizing that the aliens could (and WOULD) home in on ANY human transmission? Sounds like a case of TooDumbToLive... [[InvokedTrope literally]].
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* According to the information in the background, these aliens sent a recon mission to Earth in 1942. They most likely were lured here by either the transmissions we've sent into space, or were on a patrol. It took them 70 years to get that information back to their leaders, prepare an invasion force, and send it back to us. No attempts at communication by deciphering our language. No problem killing civilians. A contingency about their own soldiers being captured, in the event that they would try and secure intelligence from him. And utilizing multiple levels of surprises and luring the enemy into false senses of security. This isn't just an invasion. This is most likely STANDARD for them. This civilization is probably USED to being the top dogs, and could purposefully pick on lesser civilizations for the sole purpose of conquering their habitable planets and draining their liquid water. Congratulations. We just got an answer to the Fermi Paradox: there's another sentient species out there, and they INTENTIONALLY try to subjugate and/or exterminate others.
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*** There are also abundant water sources in this solar system that we'd have no hope of defending, like Enceladus or Europa (twice the volume of Earth's oceans), which would strategically be less of a pain to harvest than the water on a planet infested by armed maniac bipeds. This pushes the needle further into "colonization rather than just harvest" territory.
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** Who says water is the only thing they’re after? Since the aliens ain’t talking, their motivations can only be guessed at in-universe and out. Just because they’re taking water, and some random college professor CNN happened to find when they needed a talking head with supposed “expertise”—who clearly doesn’t know much about the solar system—says that’s it, doesn’t mean they aren’t also interested in oxygen, uranium, strategic metals, nitrogen, agriculture, exotic real estate, Katy Perry...
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* The civilian who assists in the vivisection is a veterinarian. Usually when vets are drafted to perform operations in movies in a pinch it's a case of OpenHeartDentistry, but when dealing with an utterly inhuman organism, she'd have a broader anatomical knowledge-base to draw upon than a human physician. Better yet, if she's an exotics or zoo vet.

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* At the end of the movie only a few helicopters are seen heading back into the city to take it back. How are only a few squads of Marines going to turn the battle around? Even with tons of air support there are still most likely thousands of aliens inside LA. Are more coming with them via the ground, or what?
** We can assume that other reinforcements are simply off-screen yet still underway. We were perhaps only seeing a handful of helicopters out of full reinforcement wave.

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* The civilian who assists in the vivisection is a veterinarian. Usually when vets are drafted to perform operations in movies in a pinch it's a case of OpenHeartDentistry, but when dealing with an utterly inhuman organism, she'd have a broader anatomical knowledge-base to draw upon than a human physician. Better yet, if she's an exotics or zoo vet.

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* At the end of the movie only a few helicopters are seen heading back into the city to take it back. How are only a few squads of Marines going to turn the battle around? Even with tons of air support there are still most likely thousands of aliens inside LA. Are more coming with them via the ground, or what?
** We can assume that other reinforcements are simply off-screen yet still underway. We were perhaps only seeing a handful of helicopters out of full reinforcement wave.
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* At the end of the movie only a few helicopters are seen heading back into the city to take it back. How are only a few squads of Marines going to turn the battle around? Even with tons of air support there are still most likely thousands of aliens inside LA. Are more coming with them via the ground, or what?

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* At the end of the movie only a few helicopters are seen heading back into the city to take it back. How are only a few squads of Marines going to turn the battle around? Even with tons of air support there are still most likely thousands of aliens inside LA. Are more coming with them via the ground, or what?what?
** We can assume that other reinforcements are simply off-screen yet still underway. We were perhaps only seeing a handful of helicopters out of full reinforcement wave.
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** This troper figured they were already getting water (etc) from other planets - Earth was just an "also here too" place.
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* The civilian who assists in the vivisection is a veterinarian. Usually when vets are drafted to perform operations in movies in a pinch it's a case of OpenHeartDentistry, but when dealing with an utterly inhuman organism, she'd have a broader anatomical knowledge-base to draw upon than a human physician. Better yet, if she's an exotics or zoo vet.

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* The civilian who assists in the vivisection is a veterinarian. Usually when vets are drafted to perform operations in movies in a pinch it's a case of OpenHeartDentistry, but when dealing with an utterly inhuman organism, she'd have a broader anatomical knowledge-base to draw upon than a human physician. Better yet, if she's an exotics or zoo vet.vet.

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* At the end of the movie only a few helicopters are seen heading back into the city to take it back. How are only a few squads of Marines going to turn the battle around? Even with tons of air support there are still most likely thousands of aliens inside LA. Are more coming with them via the ground, or what?

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** We could probably benefit from at least a couple of feet of reduced sea level, too bad we couldn't work it out peacefully. . .
*** No, we couldn't. Losing that much water would decimate the global ecosystem.



** Could be the result of fusion technology only slightly more advanced than ours. Loads of fuel for a little energy, the only benefit is lowered pollution, assuming it's hydrogen-boron aneutronic fusion, which might fit with the useage of seawater - there's boron in seawater, but not much. They'd electrolyse the water into hydrogen, strain what boron they could out of the leftovers and use that while stockpiling the rest of the hydrogen and establishing protected mining zones where they could dig up more boron. Fits even better with the "voracious rate" thing if you take into account the possible crap quality of their rushed-looking machinery and the fact that half the things they operate seem to run red hot and/or have rockets (fusion torches?) in constant operation.
* The aliens' need for water actually makes their "landing" on Earth incredibly efficient. To try to touch down safely on solid land, you either need a lot of force to slow down if coming vertically or an incredibly long landing area if touching down like a plane/shuttle. Crashing into the ocean at an angle needs far less effort to keep from crushing yourself into putty.
** That's a common misconception. Until you are at '''very''' low velocities (e.g. a few m/s velocity), there's virtually no difference between hitting solid earth/rock and water.

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** Could be the result of fusion technology only slightly more advanced than ours. Loads of fuel for a little energy, the only benefit is lowered pollution, assuming it's hydrogen-boron aneutronic fusion, which might fit with the useage of seawater - there's boron in seawater, but not much. They'd electrolyse the water into hydrogen, strain what boron they could out of the leftovers and use that while stockpiling the rest of the hydrogen and establishing protected mining zones where they could dig up more boron. Fits even better with the "voracious rate" thing if you take into account the possible crap quality of their rushed-looking machinery and the fact that half the things they operate seem to run red hot and/or have rockets (fusion torches?) in constant operation.
* The aliens' need for water actually makes their "landing" on Earth incredibly efficient. To try to touch down safely on solid land, you either need a lot of force to slow down if coming vertically or an incredibly long landing area if touching down like a plane/shuttle. Crashing into the ocean at an angle needs far less effort to keep from crushing yourself into putty.
** That's a common misconception. Until you are at '''very''' low velocities (e.g. a few m/s velocity), there's virtually no difference between hitting solid earth/rock and water.
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* After this troper heard complains about a certain marine not jumping from the destroyed building (or doing something else to get out) where he radioed in the strike coordinates this troper remembered that this marine was in the psychitrist office in the beginning of the movie. He was actually not cleared for combat because of what sound like the lingering effects of PTSD. When you remember that it makes sense that the marine froze up when he did. YMMV on whether it should be considered FridgeBrilliance or just plain old FridgeLogic.

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* After this troper heard complains about a certain marine not jumping from the destroyed building (or doing something else to get out) where he radioed in the strike coordinates this troper remembered that this marine was in the psychitrist psychiatrist office in the beginning of the movie. He was actually not cleared for combat because of what sound like the lingering effects of PTSD. When you remember that it makes sense that the marine froze up when he did. YMMV on whether it should be considered FridgeBrilliance or just plain old FridgeLogic.


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*** No, we couldn't. Losing that much water would decimate the global ecosystem.


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** That's a common misconception. Until you are at '''very''' low velocities (e.g. a few m/s velocity), there's virtually no difference between hitting solid earth/rock and water.
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** We could probably benefit from at least a couple of feet of reduced sea level, too bad we couldn't work it out peacefully. . .
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** Also, while there may be lot of water in space, Earth is probably greatest concentration of water available.

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** Also, while there may be lot of water in space, Earth is probably greatest concentration of water available.available.
* The civilian who assists in the vivisection is a veterinarian. Usually when vets are drafted to perform operations in movies in a pinch it's a case of OpenHeartDentistry, but when dealing with an utterly inhuman organism, she'd have a broader anatomical knowledge-base to draw upon than a human physician. Better yet, if she's an exotics or zoo vet.
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* It is not the most common thing in the universe but their is more liquid water in space than their is in the entire planet Earth, why would a space fairing civilization start a war over something they could get in much larger quantities peacefully? In a universe where this space fairing civilization exists it is possible all that other water has been used already!
** Also, while there may be lot of water in space, Earth is probably greatest concentration of water avaliable.

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* It is not the most common thing in the universe universe, but their there is more liquid water in space than their there is in the entire planet Earth, why on Earth. Why would a space fairing faring civilization start a war over something they could get in much larger quantities peacefully? In a universe where this space fairing faring civilization exists it is possible all that other water has been used already!
** Also, while there may be lot of water in space, Earth is probably greatest concentration of water avaliable.available.
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* It is not the most common thing in the universe but their is more liquid water in space than their is in the entire planet Earth, why would a space fairing civilization start a war over something they could get in much larger quantities peacefully? In a universe where this space fairing civilization exists it is possible all that other water has been used already!

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* It is not the most common thing in the universe but their is more liquid water in space than their is in the entire planet Earth, why would a space fairing civilization start a war over something they could get in much larger quantities peacefully? In a universe where this space fairing civilization exists it is possible all that other water has been used already!already!
** Also, while there may be lot of water in space, Earth is probably greatest concentration of water avaliable.
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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.

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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.happen.
* It is not the most common thing in the universe but their is more liquid water in space than their is in the entire planet Earth, why would a space fairing civilization start a war over something they could get in much larger quantities peacefully? In a universe where this space fairing civilization exists it is possible all that other water has been used already!
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* The Marines generally take the news that they're under attack by aliens with a lower level of denial, especially compared to other portrayals of troops in other media... and then one recalls that StarshipTroopers is on the required reading list for all Marines, meaning that every Marine has received exposure to the idea of fighting aliens.

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* The Marines generally take the news that they're under attack by aliens with a lower level of denial, especially compared to other portrayals of troops in other media... and then one recalls that StarshipTroopers ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' is on the required reading list for all Marines, meaning that every Marine has received exposure to the idea of fighting aliens.
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Addendum tot he addendum: Fridge Logic goes on Headscratchers
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Addendum: Now I see, and I agree with Westrim. A missile is in no way a drone.
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....what\'s the Fridge Logic here exactly?


** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.
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* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' "drone" that does not need a control center.

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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.
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* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' "drone" that does not need a control center.
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A missile traveling from point A to point B is in no way comparable to a drone navigating streets, checking threats and engaging, etc. If you still disagree, discuss it, don\'t edit war.
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1. Yes it is fridge logic 2. The word drone was used to emphasize how the alien technology was paradoxically *worse* than ours. Hence the fridge logic.


** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.

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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.happen.
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* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' "drone" that does not need a control center.
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Neither fridge logic nor a drone- it was laser guided missiles fired from the ground.


** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.
[[WMG:FridgeLogic]]
* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' drone that does not need a control center.

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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.
[[WMG:FridgeLogic]]
* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' drone that does not need a control center.
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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.

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** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.happen.
[[WMG:FridgeLogic]]
* Realizing that the tide of the battle is turned after disabling the alien drones by destroying their control center... with a ''human'' drone that does not need a control center.
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* The Marines generally take the news that they're under attack by aliens with a lower level of denial, especially compared to other portrayals of troops in other media... and then one recalls that StarshipTroopers is on the required reading list for all Marines, meaning that every Marine has received exposure to the idea of fighting aliens.

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* The Marines generally take the news that they're under attack by aliens with a lower level of denial, especially compared to other portrayals of troops in other media... and then one recalls that StarshipTroopers is on the required reading list for all Marines, meaning that every Marine has received exposure to the idea of fighting aliens.aliens.
** Also, most Marines are young adults in their late teens and twenties. They're the generation that grew up on video games and sci-fi/horror movies involving humans fighting aliens. They've probably imagined this exact scenario, though they never expected it to actually happen.

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