History Fridge / BackToTheFuture

11th May '18 6:12:40 PM costanton11
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* In ''BTTF3'', Marty suggests to Doc that they bring Clara to 1985 with them, but Doc dismisses this, mentioning that it's not worth disrupting the timeline. However, in the original timeline, Clara fell into Shonash Ravine and died anyway, so bringing her with them would actually preserve the timeline.

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* In ''BTTF3'', ''[=BTTF3=]'', Marty suggests to Doc that they bring Clara to 1985 with them, but Doc dismisses this, mentioning that it's not worth disrupting the timeline. However, in the original timeline, Clara fell into Shonash Ravine and died anyway, so bringing her with them would actually preserve the timeline.
11th May '18 6:11:11 PM costanton11
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** This wasn't always the case, however. In BttF2, Biff's meddling with the timeline somehow got Richard Nixon elected to at least four terms and the Vietnam War is still going on as of 1985. Though it could be argued his meddling was financial in nature rather then social giving him a lot more room to influence those outside of HillValley. After all it really isn't of world changing significance if someone did or did not get layed at the prom but millions upon millions of dollars suddenly ending up in a different set of hands...

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** This wasn't always the case, however. In BttF2, [=BttF2=], Biff's meddling with the timeline somehow got Richard Nixon elected to at least four terms and the Vietnam War is still going on as of 1985. Though it could be argued his meddling was financial in nature rather then social giving him a lot more room to influence those outside of HillValley. After all it really isn't of world changing significance if someone did or did not get layed at the prom but millions upon millions of dollars suddenly ending up in a different set of hands...
27th Apr '18 8:05:33 AM twofacetoo
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* People love to bring up how nonsensical it is that George, no matter how rage-fuelled, was somehow able to knock out Biff in a single punch. But look at the punch closer, George originally tries to hit Biff with his right hand, only for Biff to grab him and put him in an arm-lock, and it's only when Lorraine is pushed to the ground that George spins round and smacks Biff with his LEFT hand. Now earlier in the film we see George writing his sci-fi stories in the lunch-room, and he's using his right hand. But even back in the 50s, it was commonplace for schools to insist on right-handedness even if a person was born a lefty. In this case, it's possible that George was born left-handed, forced to pretend he was right-handed by school (since we see him writing with his right-hand) but still managed to maintain a degree of dominant strength in his left hand. As such, when he went up against Biff, of course his right hand was useless, whereas his left hand was basically a WMD against Biff's smug face
24th Apr '18 4:09:06 PM twofacetoo
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* In an extended scene from 2015, we see Old Biff fading out of existence for some reason. It was ommitted for being a little pointless in retrospect, but Word Of God states that at some point, Biff was shot by Lorraine with his own gun. Why did Old Biff still manage to travel to the past to drop off the almanac before fading away? It's possible that this was such a huge change to the timeline that it would take a long time for the ripple effect to really catch up with all the details. It's not just changing a few people's lives, like Marty did in the first film, it's changing an entire town filled with people, and possibly the face of the entire world when you consider the economic damage from Biff winning so much money, undoubtedly spending it all, and even the implied political influence he has with Richard Nixon. TL;DR, Marty and Doc were on a time-limit ever since Old Biff came back to 2015, and they didn't even know it. If they had spent any longer chasing after Biff, there may have been a major paradox simply by default. After all, we can't expect Biff to understand anything more complicated than a jigsaw, never mind the space-time continuum
24th Apr '18 1:56:56 PM twofacetoo
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* When 1955 Doc views the video of himself from 1985, he remarks, "Thank God I still got my hair!" It does seem strange that his hairline is at exactly the same level of recession in 1955 and 1985. (In contrast, Christopher Lloyd himself, 30 years after making the film, is almost entirely bald.) Maybe Doc invented something that halts, but doesn't reverse, hair loss.

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* When 1955 Doc views the video of himself from 1985, he remarks, "Thank God I I've still got my hair!" It does seem strange that his hairline is at exactly the same level of recession in 1955 and 1985. (In contrast, Christopher Lloyd himself, 30 years after making the film, is almost entirely bald.) Maybe Doc invented something that halts, but doesn't reverse, hair loss.loss.
** Unlikely as the Doc claims he never made anything that works... unless he did intend to make something that let hair grow back, but he failed, and the result was a side-effect of halting hair-loss, meaning that just like the mind-reading machine mentioned above, he didn't realise he had actually technically succeeded, just in a very round-about kind of way
24th Apr '18 12:51:12 PM twofacetoo
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** Technically subverted in a doubly brilliant method since when Doc, Marty, Jennifer and Einstein return from 2015 to 1985A, they hear an AEROPLANE instead of a HELICOPTER, it's also a flying vehicle but not the SAME one we'd expect, much like how they ARE in 1985 alright, but not the SAME 1985 that they know
24th Apr '18 12:47:41 PM twofacetoo
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** Possibly not, since after the 'gunfight' between Marty and Buford, Buford gets arrested for his actions on a previous day robbing a Pine City stagecoach. It's possible that in the original unaltered timeline, Buford committed this robbery and got away with it, possibly disappearing forever, but in the altered timeline of the movies? He turned up to Hill Valley to meet that smart-mouth Clint Eastwood punk, and even if he wasn't there, it was only about half an hour since he arrived to Marshall Strickland turning up to arrest him for the crime he had already committed, his beef with Marty be damned. So basically, Marty being there at all may have helped a famous outlaw be brought to justice, except in one timeline it also involved manure-based humiliation
24th Apr '18 11:25:46 AM twofacetoo
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** In a deleted scene set just after the McFly family dinner in 1985, we saw Marty put his demo tape in an envelope, addressed to a record company, but he just put it down and decided not to go and post it. At the end of the film, once he's back from 1955 and wakes up in his bed, before he even realises his family have changed, you can see him carrying the envelope, implying he's going to post it after all. His trip to the past did teach him to be more confident, and he's actually doing exactly what Jennifer suggested he do: send his tape to a record company and see what happens next
14th Mar '18 10:13:04 AM TimeLordVictorious
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*** Retroactive FridgeBrilliance: In ''Doctor Who'', the Doctor manages to fake his death, but makes it seem as if he died, in order to keep a fixed point from being fucked up. Doc Brown probably came to a similar conclusion; as long as Marty ''thinks'' that he was dead, he would still go into the past, and time would continue on its natural course.
7th Feb '18 6:03:36 AM cluosborne
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** There is a third possibility. Just after arriving in 1955, Marty is forced to escape the Peabody farm after Old Man Peabody mistakes him for an alien and shot at him. In the confusion, Marty accidentally ran over a pine tree. A branch may have snagged some electrical wiring, causing an intermittent short circuit or caused some sort of damage to the electrical system. Marty even told 1955 Doc that there was something wrong with the starter, so 1955 Doc probably repaired the damage later on, didn't do a good enough job and it was 1985 Doc (who knew the car) that finished repairs. Notably, between that point in the film and after Marty returns to 1985 is the only time when the car stalls or fails to start. The only other time the engine failed was simply due to lack of gasoline and no suitable substitute fuel in Part III.

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** There is a third possibility. Just after arriving in 1955, Marty is forced to escape the Peabody farm after Old Man Peabody mistakes him for an alien and shot at him. In the confusion, Marty accidentally ran over a pine tree. A branch may have snagged some electrical wiring, causing an intermittent short circuit or caused some sort of damage to the electrical system. Marty even told 1955 Doc that there was something wrong with the starter, so 1955 Doc probably repaired the damage later on, on (the car's rear end was jacked up--probably to examine why it wouldn't start), didn't do a good enough job and it was 1985 Doc (who knew the car) that finished repairs. Notably, between that point in the film and after Marty returns to 1985 is the only time when the car stalls or fails to start. The only other time the engine failed was simply due to lack of gasoline and no suitable substitute fuel in Part III.
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