History Fridge / BackToTheFuture

20th Apr '16 2:11:43 PM costanton11
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* In the first episode of the game, in Marty's dream of the first experiment, the Delorean doesn't show up at 1:21 a.m. like in the movie. Come part 4, the Delorean repaired by Citizen Brown, due to its damage, first arrives a few minutes after he intended, then about 2 months after the date he landed to go toxin 1931, then several hours back in time when he tried to go back one minute. In other words, just like in the dream, the Delorean didn't arrive at the time it was supposed to.
10th Apr '16 8:36:35 PM Cupcakes
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** This wasn't always the case, however. In BttF2, Biff's meddling with the timeline somehow got Richard Nixon elected to at least four terms and the Vietnam War is still going on as of 1985.

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** This wasn't always the case, however. In BttF2, Biff's meddling with the timeline somehow got Richard Nixon elected to at least four terms and the Vietnam War is still going on as of 1985. Though it could be argued his meddling was financial in nature rather then social giving him a lot more room to influence those outside of HillValley. After all it really isn't of world changing significance if someone did or did not get layed at the prom but millions upon millions of dollars suddenly ending up in a different set of hands...
1st Apr '16 8:12:49 AM costanton11
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* This one always bothered me about George. Wouldn't his son growing up to be the spitting image of his wife's highschool crush be enough to make him certain he's been cheated on? She even named him after the guy's nickname!

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* This one always bothered me about George. Wouldn't his son growing up to be the spitting image of his wife's highschool high school crush be enough to make him certain he's been cheated on? She even named him after the guy's nickname!



*** Shown when Jennifer shows up in ''BTTF Part II''. Yes, she was played by another actress, but she ''could'' have had different DNA but marty would only recognizer her as Jennifer, not "why do you look different" Jennifer.

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*** Shown when Jennifer shows up in ''BTTF Part II''. Yes, she was played by another actress, but she ''could'' have had different DNA but marty Marty would only recognizer her as Jennifer, not "why do you look different" Jennifer.



** Two other possibilities. One: the Lybians actually managed to hit the [=DeLorean=] during the parking lot chase and damaged the starter and engine. This might also explain the short circuit from Part II. Two: Each time the car stalls, another [=DeLorean=] is about to time travel. When Marty stalls just before returning to 1985, the Marty and Doc from Part II are across town, burning the Sports Almanac, and sending Doc back to 1885. When the car stalls upon Marty's return to 1985, his other self is about to time travel back to 1955. It seems only one [=DeLorean=] can time travel at any given point.

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** Two other possibilities. One: the Lybians Libyans actually managed to hit the [=DeLorean=] during the parking lot chase and damaged the starter and engine. This might also explain the short circuit from Part II. Two: Each time the car stalls, another [=DeLorean=] is about to time travel. When Marty stalls just before returning to 1985, the Marty and Doc from Part II are across town, burning the Sports Almanac, and sending Doc back to 1885. When the car stalls upon Marty's return to 1985, his other self is about to time travel back to 1955. It seems only one [=DeLorean=] can time travel at any given point.



** The whole "chicken thing" may actually be from the original timeline. Remember Marty originally never liked being compared to his father becuase he thought of his old man as a ''coward''. Even after the timeline was changed, that habit still lingered.

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** The whole "chicken thing" may actually be from the original timeline. Remember Marty originally never liked being compared to his father becuase because he thought of his old man as a ''coward''. Even after the timeline was changed, that habit still lingered.



* Marty walks in on Biff while he's watching Clint Eastwood in the hottub. The scene in particular has Clint be shot several times and being knocked down, before revealing he was wearing a bulletproof vest. [[spoiler: Sound familiar?]]

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* Marty walks in on Biff while he's watching Clint Eastwood in the hottub.hot tub. The scene in particular has Clint be shot several times and being knocked down, before revealing he was wearing a bulletproof vest. [[spoiler: Sound familiar?]]



* It seems odd at first that after the Libyans crash that we never hear from them again, but they were traveling between 60 and 70mph in a vehicle not known for its safety with one of the two hanging out of the open sun roof with an RPG-7 rocket launcher. RPG-7 grenades have impact fuses without any additional safety devices. If the impact with the photomat didn't kill them both outright, the blast from the RPG would have surely [[EveryCarIsaPinto finished them off]].

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* It seems odd at first that after the Libyans crash that we never hear from them again, but they were traveling between 60 and 70mph in a vehicle not known for its safety with one of the two hanging out of the open sun roof with an RPG-7 rocket launcher. RPG-7 grenades have impact fuses without any additional safety devices. If the impact with the photomat photo-mat didn't kill them both outright, the blast from the RPG would have surely [[EveryCarIsaPinto finished them off]].



* At first, Biff's grandmother is simply a grouchy character for the sake of a grouchy character. However, once you play the Telltale game and learn who Biff's parents are, you begin to realise that maybe she didn't have much reason to like Biff at all: her son was either a bootlegger under a life sentence, or her daughter was ''a victim of rape.'' (and then Biff is turning out like the rapist.)

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* At first, Biff's grandmother is simply a grouchy character for the sake of a grouchy character. However, once you play the Telltale game and learn who Biff's parents are, you begin to realise realize that maybe she didn't have much reason to like Biff at all: her son was either a bootlegger under a life sentence, or her daughter was ''a victim of rape.'' (and then Biff is turning out like the rapist.)



* Marty's original family were a bunch of losers. His brother [[BurgerFool works in a fast food joint]], his sister is apparently completely cynical and jaded and his dad is working some low level white collar grunt job while being bullied to to Biff, his superior's, work for him as well, meanwhile his mother's overweight, an alcoholic and has an apparently spiteful attitude to anybody else being even remotely happy. The house is also a crap hole. After he returns to 1985 they're completely different. His brother now has some kind of office job, his parents are HappilyMarried and successful, the house is nicer and now Biff is working as a car cleaner (presumably, George is doing the job he helped Biff into himself). Some people have criticised this ending as being too materialistic, but it's really not. Only one small change in the timeline has led to such a dramatic improvement in the McFly family, that change being George learned to stand up for himself and to not give up in the face of adversity. If you pay attention, George has only just got his first novel published, even though he presumably has been trying since the 50s. The original George probably wrote his first manuscript, got a rejection, and gave up because he was trampled down and broken. His kids, unconsciously following his example, are the same way. The new George probably wrote his first manuscript, got a rejection, and started work on another better manuscript. That also got rejected, so did the next one and the next one. But he didn't ever give up and by 1985 his persistence has finally been rewarded. In the meantime he was probably doing the job Biff was originally doing because he was clearly good enough to do it. His kids, unconsciously following his example, are the same way.

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* Marty's original family were a bunch of losers. His brother [[BurgerFool works in a fast food joint]], his sister is apparently completely cynical and jaded and his dad is working some low level white collar grunt job while being bullied to to Biff, his superior's, work for him as well, meanwhile his mother's overweight, an alcoholic and has an apparently spiteful attitude to anybody else being even remotely happy. The house is also a crap hole. After he returns to 1985 they're completely different. His brother now has some kind of office job, his parents are HappilyMarried and successful, the house is nicer and now Biff is working as a car cleaner (presumably, George is doing the job he helped Biff into himself). Some people have criticised criticized this ending as being too materialistic, but it's really not. Only one small change in the timeline has led to such a dramatic improvement in the McFly family, that change being George learned to stand up for himself and to not give up in the face of adversity. If you pay attention, George has only just got his first novel published, even though he presumably has been trying since the 50s. The original George probably wrote his first manuscript, got a rejection, and gave up because he was trampled down and broken. His kids, unconsciously following his example, are the same way. The new George probably wrote his first manuscript, got a rejection, and started work on another better manuscript. That also got rejected, so did the next one and the next one. But he didn't ever give up and by 1985 his persistence has finally been rewarded. In the meantime he was probably doing the job Biff was originally doing because he was clearly good enough to do it. His kids, unconsciously following his example, are the same way.



** Not defeated? They crashed into a Photofox kiosk at upwards of 70mph. Seeing as how neither were wearing seat belts and were driving a car where the only crumple zone is one's face, the only place they are going is the hospital or the morgue.

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** Not defeated? They crashed into a Photofox Photo-fox kiosk at upwards of 70mph. Seeing as how neither were wearing seat belts and were driving a car where the only crumple zone is one's face, the only place they are going is the hospital or the morgue.



** Marty has kind of an "oh shit" moment regarding this in the movie. Whatever happened, she was still on the porch and asleep and unharmed by the time Marty came to pick her up. Considering that only a few minutes had passed for her, and that the timeline had caught up with her across the transition from Hell Valley '85 back to it's proper state, nothing happened because whatever horrifying things would have happened to her were averted before they could actually transpire. What WOULD have happened, if "Hell Valley" had gone along unchecked, is probably better left to terrifying fanfiction.

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** Marty has kind of an "oh shit" moment regarding this in the movie. Whatever happened, she was still on the porch and asleep and unharmed by the time Marty came to pick her up. Considering that only a few minutes had passed for her, and that the timeline had caught up with her across the transition from Hell Valley '85 back to it's proper state, nothing happened because whatever horrifying things would have happened to her were averted before they could actually transpire. What WOULD have happened, if "Hell Valley" had gone along unchecked, is probably better left to terrifying fanfiction.fan fiction.



* In the Telltale Games, the ''Citizen Brown'' episode, [[spoiler:Marty tells Citizen Brown that he was supposed to invent the time machine.]] His reaction isn't that bad; he's sceptical at first and tries to help him later on. But imagine this: You live your life, doing what you do, and suddenly someone presents you with evidence that you wasted your life, you could have done way more with what you were given, your entire existence is a mistake. He takes it surprisingly well and even manages to do what he was supposed to do, but really, how likely is it that [[spoiler:Doc could invent time travel in half a year, when it took the movie Doc, who even had the opportunity to study the time machine, 30 years?]] This is kind of hinted at in Episode 4, when the ethics of personality overriding is discussed, but I think this would be a lot more horrific than it is portrayed in the game.

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* In the Telltale Games, the ''Citizen Brown'' episode, [[spoiler:Marty tells Citizen Brown that he was supposed to invent the time machine.]] His reaction isn't that bad; he's sceptical skeptical at first and tries to help him later on. But imagine this: You live your life, doing what you do, and suddenly someone presents you with evidence that you wasted your life, you could have done way more with what you were given, your entire existence is a mistake. He takes it surprisingly well and even manages to do what he was supposed to do, but really, how likely is it that [[spoiler:Doc could invent time travel in half a year, when it took the movie Doc, who even had the opportunity to study the time machine, 30 years?]] This is kind of hinted at in Episode 4, when the ethics of personality overriding is discussed, but I think this would be a lot more horrific than it is portrayed in the game.
20th Mar '16 12:09:20 PM HeroGal2347
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** Have in mind that, in that point of the film, we had not seen yet the alternate 1985 and the consequences of Biff's time travel. His dissapearance may make sense, but only when rewatching the film. Test audiences are first-time watchers: if they saw that scene, play pause and try to figure it out with only the things they had seen so far, they would be completely lost.

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** Have in mind that, in that point of the film, we had not seen yet the alternate 1985 and the consequences of Biff's time travel. His dissapearance disappearance may make sense, but only when rewatching the film. Test audiences are first-time watchers: if they saw that scene, play pause and try to figure it out with only the things they had seen so far, they would be completely lost.


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* In [[WesternAnimation/BackToTheFuture the animated series]], Marty gives his name as ComicBook/JimmyOlsen during one of the trips into the past, which might seem weird given Jimmy's somewhat joke-like reputation. Then you remember that by 1985, Jimmy was known as "[[ActionHero Mr. Action]]" and no longer needed Superman to bail him out quite so often, so Marty may have had an entirely different perspective on the character.
15th Mar '16 4:31:47 PM costanton11
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*** Plus the third movie reveals that George's ancestors looked like Marty, so he will more likely think that Marty is the spitting image of them.
13th Mar '16 6:45:17 PM Blackjack254
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* So the Delorean's flying circuits were destroyed when the lightning bolt struck it, but it was in mid air when that happened, so shouldn't it have plummeted to the ground and exploded when it arrived in 1885?
1st Mar '16 7:32:27 AM MrDeath
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* "Lorraine, if you ever have a kid who acts that way, I'll disown you." So.... did Lorraine ever get disowned?
** A couple possibilities: in the original timeline, Dad never said that. In the new timeline, he may have disowned her, he may have forgotten, he may have changed his mind, or maybe the kid doesn't quite act like that. A question for the FanFic authors.
** Dad was reacting to the fact that Marty was making anachronistic references he didn't understand (John F. Kennedy Drive, reruns, etc.), leading him to think Marty was an idiot. Since he was misunderstanding him, we can't conclude he would necessarily have disliked the Marty of the future, in his own time.
** Plus, there is such a thing as hyperbole. Gramps is probably just stressing to Lorraine that if her kid grows up to be a weirdo, he's not gonna be happy.
** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George in Marty's place, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature around people in general and his seeming lack of friends, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son and Marty is reacting that way because he knows full well Lorraine is his mother, as in the original timeline with George there, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, still makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, Sam still calls Marty an idiot. No matter how you look at it, it's not a nice thing to say about a kid you've basically just met. Even one from the future. Even ''your future grandson''.
1st Mar '16 2:47:54 AM axle-k89
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** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George in Marty's place, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature around people in general and his seeming lack of friends, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son and Marty is reacting that way because he knows full well Lorraine is his mother, as in the original timeline with George there, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, still makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, Sam still calls Marty an idiot. Not a nice thing to say about a kid you've just met. Even one from the future. Even your future grandson.

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** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George in Marty's place, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature around people in general and his seeming lack of friends, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son and Marty is reacting that way because he knows full well Lorraine is his mother, as in the original timeline with George there, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, still makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, Sam still calls Marty an idiot. Not No matter how you look at it, it's not a nice thing to say about a kid you've basically just met. Even one from the future. Even your ''your future grandson.grandson''.
1st Mar '16 2:45:53 AM axle-k89
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** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son, as in the original timeline, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, he calls Marty an idiot.

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** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George, George in Marty's place, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature, nature around people in general and his seeming lack of friends, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son, son and Marty is reacting that way because he knows full well Lorraine is his mother, as in the original timeline, timeline with George there, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, still makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, he Sam still calls Marty an idiot.idiot. Not a nice thing to say about a kid you've just met. Even one from the future. Even your future grandson.
1st Mar '16 2:41:13 AM axle-k89
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* "Lorraine, if you ever have a kid who acts like that, I'll disown you." So.... did Lorraine ever get disowned?

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* "Lorraine, if you ever have a kid who acts like that, that way, I'll disown you." So.... did Lorraine ever get disowned?


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** With reaction to the point above, Sam may have been using hyperbole, but imagine that same scenario with George, as it would have originally happened. George could easily have had the same reactions to Lorraine as Marty did (considering his nerdiness and cowardly nature, but obviously ignoring the fact that Marty is Lorraine's future son, as in the original timeline, Marty wasn't there because he wasn't born yet) and ran out. Who's to say Sam didn't say the same thing then? If he kept true to his word, makes him a bit of a Jerkass, doesn't it? Considering that seconds before, after Marty ran out, he calls Marty an idiot.
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