History Fridge / BabyDriver

!Fridge Logic:
* The final scene of the movie [[spoiler: implies that Baby is out on parole after 5 years of imprisonment, and can finally take Debora on that trip to "head west on the 20, in a car we can't afford, with a plan we don't have." However, parolees aren't allowed to leave the state without special permission from their parole officer, so that plan seems unlikely now.]]
** That was a fantasy about how they wanted to escape their lives. [[spoiler: Now he's free and she has something to stay for they don't need to drive off to search for something better.]]
* Also, when the witnesses are on stand, where are [[spoiler: the guys that Baby and Deborah robbed for their Dodge?]] That is probably the only crime in which Baby was actually a criminal and not forced to commit, making his [[spoiler: parole more complicated to achieve.]]
** Although it's never stated that [[spoiler:stealing the Dodge wasn't included in the sentence. Also, maybe after hearing that Baby was trying to outrun a madman, the guys dropped the charges.]]

** Even if Doc knew the entire story, Bats was still responsible for the job going sideways by his unnecessary killing and would still be blamed for it. Doc is willing to kill, true, but only when necessary. The jobs he plans are supposed to happen quickly and with no killing if possible. Murdering someone unnecessarily in broad daylight only guarantees more police attention.

* Doc's willingness to help Baby after Baby blew up the Postal Job seems incredibly out of character except when you realize that Doc' wouldn't have known that it was ''Baby'' that caused the job to go sideways. Doc stays far away from the jobs while they are in progress. He wouldn't have known the details of how things went down. People are dying, the cars have been ditched, and everyone's cover has been blown. This isn't how Baby works at all. This is how ''Bats'' works. Doc would have heard about the shit show that the Postal Job turned into and assumed that Bats, rather than the usually pacifist Baby, had gone off the rails again. So, when Baby calls Doc, Doc thinks that his Lucky Charm is asking for help not the kid who purposely screwed up the whole thing.

* Doc's willingness to help Baby after Baby blew up the Postal Job seems incredibly out of character except when you realize that Doc' wouldn't have known that it was ''Baby'' that caused the job to go sideways. Doc stays far away from the jobs while they are in progress. He wouldn't have known the details of how things went down only that the police were flashing Baby, Darling, Buddy, and Bats pictures on every television set in the city. People are dying, the cars have been ditched, and everyone's cover has been blown. This isn't how Baby works at all. This is how ''Bats'' works. Doc would have heard about the shit show that the Postal Job turned into and assumed that Bats, rather than the usually pacifist Baby, had gone off the rails again. So, when Baby calls Doc, Doc thinks that his Lucky Charm is asking for help not the kid who purposely screwed up the whole thing.

* Doc's willingness to help Baby after Baby blew up the Postal Job seems incredibly out of character except when you realize that Doc' wouldn't have known that it was ''Baby'' that caused the job to go sideways. Doc stays far away from the jobs while they are in progress. He wouldn't have known the details of how things went down only that the police were gunning for the crew and Baby, Darling, Buddy, and Bats pictures were being flashed on every television set in the city. Baby had a spotless record before this job. Sure, he tried to ditch at 2am and was mixing conversations but he had been a complete professional when in the driver seat. ''Bats'' on the other hand, has been gunning down people left, right, and center and generally turning the whole operation into a shit show. Doc would have heard about the rising body count and assumed that Bats, rather than the usually pacifist Baby, had gone off the rails again. So, when Baby calls Doc, Doc thinks that his Lucky Charm is asking for help not the kid who purposely screwed up the whole thing.

* When the second robbery has the crew be forced to abandon their getaway car and force out a woman out of her car as a replacement, there is a small baby in the backseat. When Baby removes the child from it's seat and hands it over to the mother, Bats reacts angrily despite it only taking a few seconds. Bats seemed to have wanted to use the child as a hostage or just not care at all if the child got hurt or abandoned when they switched cars again...or worse.

* When the second robbery has the crew be forced to abandon their getaway car and force out a woman out of her as a replacement, there is a small baby in the back. When Baby removes the child from it's seat and hands it over to the mother, Bats reacts angrily despite it only taking a few seconds. He seemed to have wanted to use the child as a hostage or just not care at all if the child got hurt or abandoned when they switched cars again...or worse.

-->'''Doc''': [[LikeASonToMe That's my Baby]]
*** Baby not listening to Doc in briefings because he can read lips is more or less confirmed by the screenplay.

* Doc says he and Baby first ran into each other when Baby stole his Mercedes. [[spoiler: When Doc is killed by Buddy, what does Baby hop into with Debora as a getaway car? Doc's Mercedes.]]

-->'''Doc''': [[LikeASonToMe That's my Baby]].

* Doc says he and Baby first ran into each other when Baby stole his Mercedes. How does Baby leave Doc for the last time? Taking Doc's black Mercedes again.

* When Bats goes on about how the robbers' intended targets have stolen from them, at first it seems like BlatantLies, but it's more like the driving metaphor of his criminal philosophy -- railing against systematic injustice by taking on banks, law enforcement, etc. is a really common motivation for sympathetic outlaws in fiction. In his eyes the history of predatory banking practices means they ''are'' getting their own back. In his eyes he's more like the protagonists of ''Film/HellOrHighWater'' or the pop culture version of UsefulNotes/JesseJames than he is like Buddy, a Wall Street crook who as Bats observes probably stole more money in that capacity than any of them ever will as ordinary thieves. Trying to blow a working-class post office teller's brains out just because she got in the way isn't exactly a principled act, however -- not unlike the real-life versions of those same vaunted outlaws, who were generally more interested in making a buck than in upholding their rebel ideals and fighting the system.

** This little tidbit also explains how Baby can get away with having his earbuds in during the briefings Doc gives his crew just before the job - Baby doesn't need to listen because he can ''read lips''. Doc is well aware of all of Baby's idiosyncracies and competence, as his annoyed glance to the hood that complained about Baby's seeming indifference to the information indicates.

* When Bats goes on about how the robbers' intended targets have stolen from them, at first it seems like BlatantLies, but it's more like InAMannerOfSpeaking -- railing against systematic injustice by taking on banks, law enforcement, etc. is a really common motivation for sympathetic outlaws in fiction. In his eyes the history of predatory banking practices means they ''are'' getting their own back. In his eyes he's more like the protagonists of ''Film/HellOrHighWater'' or the pop culture version of UsefulNotes/JesseJames than he is like Buddy, a Wall Street crook who as Bats observes probably stole more money in that capacity than any of them ever will as ordinary thieves. Trying to blow a working-class post office teller's brains out just because she got in the way isn't exactly a principled act, however -- not unlike the real-life versions of those same vaunted outlaws, who were generally more interested in making a buck than in upholding their rebel ideals and fighting the system.

** Depending on how bad Baby's hearing damage initially was, it's also possible Joseph was the first person to speak with Baby in ASL instead of spoken English, which might have helped. Other people treat Baby like he's slow because of his issues with hearing and speech, but Joseph has no reason to think a disability with respect to one thing would make Baby incapable of being an autonomous adult.

** Depending on how bad Baby's hearing damage initially was, it's also possible Joseph was the first person to speak with Baby in ASL instead of spoken English, which might have helped. Other people treat Baby like he's slow because of his issues with hearing and speech, but Joseph has no reason to think a disability with respect to one thing would make Baby incapable of being an autonomous adult.

!Fridge Brilliance:
* There's a lot of this with Baby and Joseph's relationship. Part of the reason why Baby doesn't talk much and finds it difficult to express himself verbally could be ascribed to him having spent a lot of his life living with a deaf person, which combined with his habitually listening to music constantly and his natural introversion means that he hasn't ever spent much time learning to how to talk socially with other people, resulting in most of what he does say being parroted from other sources.
** This little tidbit also explains how Baby can get away with having his earbuds in during the briefings Doc gives his crew just before the job - Baby doesn't need to listen because he can ''read lips''. Doc is well aware of all of Baby's idiosyncracies and competence, as his annoyed glance to the hood that complained about Baby's seeming indifference to the information indicates.

* Joseph being Baby's foster father: Baby was probably kicked out of a few foster homes for either behavioral issues or his budding criminal activity if he finally ended up with a deaf black man for a foster father. It's unlikely that he would've been first choice to raise a pre-teen white male orphan. Joseph is probably the one who finally taught Baby what he was doing was wrong.

* There's a lot of this with Baby and Joseph's relationship. Part of the reason why Baby doesn't talk much and finds it difficult to express himself verbally could be ascribed to him having spent a lot of his life living with a deaf person, which combined with his habitually listening to music constantly and his natural introversion means that he hasn't ever spent much time learning to how to talk socially with other people, resulting in most of what he does say being parroted from other sources.

* That was a fantasy about how they wanted to escape their lives. [[spoiler: Now he's free and she has something to stay for they don't need to drive off to search for something better.]]

Fridge Logic:
The final scene of the movie [[spoiler: implies that Baby is out on parole after 5 years of imprisonment, and can finally take Debora on that trip to "head west on the 20, in a car we can't afford, with a plan we don't have." However, parolees aren't allowed to leave the state without special permission from their parole officer, so that plan seems unlikely now.]]

Joseph being Baby's foster father: Baby was probably kicked out of a few foster homes for either behavioral issues or his budding criminal activity if he finally ended up with a deaf black man for a foster father. It's unlikely that he would've been first choice to raise a pre-teen white male orphan. Joseph is probably the one who finally taught Baby what he was doing was wrong.

Fridge Brilliance:
There's a lot of this with Baby and Joseph's relationship. Part of the reason why Baby doesn't talk much and finds it difficult to express himself verbally could be ascribed to him having spent a lot of his life living with a deaf person, which combined with his habitually listening to music constantly and his natural introversion means that he hasn't ever spent much time learning to how to talk socially with other people, resulting in most of what he does say being parroted from other sources.

Joseph being Baby's foster father: Baby was probably kicked out of a few foster homes for either behavioral issues or his budding criminal activity if he finally ended up with a deaf black man for a foster father. It's unlikely that he would've been first choice to raise a pre-teen white male orphan. Joseph is probably the one who finally taught Baby what he was doing was wrong.

The final scene of the movie [[spoiler: implies that Baby is out on parole after 5 years of imprisonment, and can finally take Debora on that trip to "head west on the 20, in a car we can't afford, with a plan we don't have." However, parolees aren't allowed to leave the state without special permission from their parole officer, so that plan seems unlikely now.]]