History Fridge / AvatarTheLastAirbenderTheSearch

** Perhaps Azulon wanted Ursa and Ozai's daughter to marry Lu Ten, which would bring Roku's blood to the throne.

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to poorly treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler:hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He was not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or "weak" emotion that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and then [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. The reason why he was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight him at Agni Kai in comparison to the initial incident that led to the Agni Kai is because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believed that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it [[RevengeThroughCorruption the ultimate and twisted form of revenge he could inflict upon her]].

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to poorly treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler:hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He was not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and then [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. The reason why he was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight him at Agni Kai in comparison to the initial incident that led to the Agni Kai is because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believed that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it [[RevengeThroughCorruption the ultimate and twisted form of revenge he could inflict upon her]].

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to poorly treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler:hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He was not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and then [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. The reason why he was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight him at Agni Kai in comparison to the initial incident that led to the Agni Kai is because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it [[RevengeThroughCorruption the ultimate and twisted form of revenge he could inflict upon her]].

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler: hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He is not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. The reason why he was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight him at Agni Kai in comparison to the initial incident that led to the Agni Kai is because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it the ultimate and twisted form of revenge he could inflict upon her.

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:she voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. In the ''Avatar'' universe, [[spoiler:parents]] are frequently imperfect even when they're not outright evil: [[spoiler:Hakoda left his motherless children behind to go and fight in a seemingly [[ForeverWar endless war]] he had [[HopelessWar no hope]] of winning and may never have come back from; Ty Lee's parents never gave her any individual attention because they had six other daughters to take care of; Ukano and Michi gave Mai everything she wanted, but also made it clear her job was to stay quiet and not make waves; the Bei Fongs infantilised and sheltered Toph because they believed her blindness made her helpless and it was the only way to look after her; and [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Korra's]] parents let her be raised in an isolated compound by a secret society rather than at home, because the world needed the Avatar to be ready for action as soon as possible]]. Meanwhile, [[spoiler:Ursa was a blank slate and the fans’ view of her was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story made her into an actual character, i.e. flawed and human. She was in a situation where there was no obvious “right” choice she could make for her children and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:she voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. In the ''Avatar'' universe, [[spoiler:parents]] are frequently imperfect even when they're not outright evil: [[spoiler:Hakoda left his motherless children behind to go and fight in a seemingly [[ForeverWar endless war]] he had [[HopelessWar no hope]] of winning and may never have come back from; Ty Lee's parents never gave her any individual attention because they had six other daughters to take care of; the Bei Fongs infantilised and sheltered Toph because they believed her blindness made her helpless and it was the only way to look after her; and [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Korra's]] parents let her be raised in an isolated compound by a secret society rather than at home, because the world needed the Avatar to be ready for action as soon as possible]]. Meanwhile, [[spoiler:Ursa was a blank slate and the fans’ view of her was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story made her into an actual character, i.e. flawed and human. She was in a situation where there was no obvious “right” choice she could make for her children and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:she voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. In the ''Avatar'' universe, [[spoiler:parents]] are frequently imperfect even when they're not outright evil: [[spoiler:Hakoda left his motherless children behind to go and fight in a seemingly [[ForeverWar endless war]] he had [[HopelessWar no hope]] of winning and may never have come back from; Ty Lee's parents never gave her any individual attention because they had six other daughters to care for; the Bei Fongs infantilised and sheltered Toph because they believed her blindness made her helpless and it was the only war to look after her; and [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra Korra's]] parents let her be raised in an isolated compound by a secret society rather than at home, because the world needed the Avatar to be ready for action as soon as possible]]. Meanwhile, [[spoiler:Ursa was a blank slate and the fans’ view of her was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story made her into an actual character, i.e. flawed and human. She was in a situation where there was no obvious “right” choice she could make for her children and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:she voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. Previously, [[spoiler:Ursa was a blank slate and the fans’ view of her was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story made her flawed and human, just like Hakoda, the Bei Fongs and Mai’s parents. She was in a situation where there was no obvious “right” choice for her children and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

*** Or perhaps not. Though [[spoiler:Kiyi]] has accepted Zuko and even the rest of the Gaang, she still hasn't taken to [[spoiler:Ursa]] as of the first chapter of [[ComicBook/AvatarTheLastAirbenderSmokeAndShadow Smoke and Shadow]].

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:she voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. Previously, [[spoiler:Ursa was a blank slate and the fans’ view of her was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story made her flawed and human, just like Hakoda, the Bei Fongs and Mai’s parents. She was in a situation where it was impossible to make the “right” choice and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

* Reading through the YMMV page and viewing the debate about whether [[spoiler:Ursa]] is a sympathetic figure or not in light of the revelation that [[spoiler:Ursa voluntarily gave up her memories of her children and started a new life without them because of the pain her memories of them caused her]], you suddenly realise that’s exactly what the writers [[IntendedAudienceReaction want us to do]]. Previously, [[spoiler:the fans’ view of Ursa was largely through Zuko’s eyes and therefore heavily idealised. This story was intended to make her flawed and human, just like Hakoda, the Bei Fongs and Mai’s parents. She was in a situation where it was impossible to make the “right” choice and so she made the decision which would spare her pain. Her decision is ''supposed'' to be morally dubious and controversial both in- and out of universe, and it’s up to the individual characters and readers to decide whether they find her tragic, selfish or something in between.]]

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* As Zuko has stated, Ozai believing that [[spoiler: Zuko is not his son]] would explain why he would banished Zuko without second thought. At first, it makes perfect sense until you realize that if Ozai truly believed that, why did he say that Zuko can return home and restore his rightful place as heir to the throne if [[SnipeHunt he catches the Avatar?]] Why would Ozai risk the chance of giving the throne to [[spoiler: an [[TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone "illegitimate" son]]]]? Sure, the Avatar has been missing for a hundred years and it's an almost hopeless chance, but it's nevertheless [[HopeSpot still a chance]], and ''The Search'' demonstrated that [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Ozai does not tolerate with chances]], as he fired Vachir for failing to confirm that Ikem is dead, despite Vachir's claims that [[NoOneCouldHaveSurvivedThat no one could have survived the forest.]] The answer? [[spoiler: [[FridgeBrilliance Because Ozai saw through Ursa's lie in the letter, which is only made to prove that he has been intercepting her letters.]]]]

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler: hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He is not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. The reason why he was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight him at Agni Kai in comparison to the initial incident that led to the Agni Kai is because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it the ultimate and twisted revenge.

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler: hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biological father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He is not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. He was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight his father at Agni Kai as oppose to him initially speaking out of term, because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted, making it the ultimate and twisted revenge.

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler: hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biolgoical father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He is not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted bastard child just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. He was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight his father at Agni Kai as oppose to him initially speaking out of term, because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted.

* [[AbusiveParent Ozai's decision to treat Zuko]] in light of [[spoiler: hearing Ursa's wishes for him to be nothing like his biolgoical father]] paints another layer of the father/son relationship. He is not simply treating Zuko like an unwanted BastardChild just to make Ursa suffer, but to also stamp out any kindness or any "weak" emotions that Zuko may have inherited from his mother and [[GenerationXerox mold him in his own image]]. He was more enraged at Zuko when he refuses to fight his father at Agni Kai as oppose to him initially speaking out of term, because it did not remind Ozai of himself when he had to deal with his own father. When Azula told Ozai that Zuko killed the Avatar without mercy, he was proud of his son for the first time simply because he mistakenly believes that Zuko's banishment had eroded his mother's influence away and made him into a man like Ozai, [[TheSocialDarwinist a merciless killer loyal to the Fire Nation]], something that Ursa would not have wanted.