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27th Feb '16 9:21:02 AM zootsutra
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*** They could all be experts in jungle warfare on Earth and it wouldn't have made a damn bit a of difference for two reasons. One, there did not seem to be much war going on until the events of the film itself. Two, its Pandora, also known as a portal to hell. There are "cats" that close to being as tall as a human being, if not larger, standing normally. Similar predators on Earth are much smaller. This place appears to be actively trying to kill you. The fact that the RDA expedition has survived at all should be considered a great achievement.

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*** They could all be experts in jungle warfare on Earth and it wouldn't have made a damn bit a of difference for two reasons. One, there did not seem to be much war going on until the events of the film itself. Two, its Pandora, also known as a portal to hell. There are "cats" that close to being as tall as a human being, if not larger, standing normally. Similar predators on Earth are much smaller. This place appears to be actively trying to kill you. The fact that the RDA expedition has survived at all should be considered a great achievement.achievement.
* What this troper would like to know is, if Avatar bodies are constructed from human and Na'vi genetic material, where did RDA acquire the Na'vi material in the first place?
24th Apr '15 10:20:43 AM SharleeD
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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led from the prolemuris to the Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous for catching a breath at the surface without exposing one's whole upper torso. Same reason whyhippos and crocodiles have their nostrils as far up on their heads as possible, and cetaceans' nostrils are on top of their heads.

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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led from the prolemuris to the Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous for catching a breath at the surface without exposing one's whole upper torso. Same reason whyhippos and why crocodiles have their nostrils as far up on their heads as possible, aiming upwards rather than forewards, and cetaceans' nostrils are on top of their heads.
24th Apr '15 10:19:44 AM SharleeD
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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led from the prolemuris to the Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous. Same reason why otters, hippos and crocodiles have their eyes and nostrils as far up on their heads as possible.

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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led from the prolemuris to the Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous. advantageous for catching a breath at the surface without exposing one's whole upper torso. Same reason why otters, hippos whyhippos and crocodiles have their eyes and nostrils as far up on their heads as possible.
possible, and cetaceans' nostrils are on top of their heads.
24th Apr '15 10:18:27 AM SharleeD
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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led to the prolemuris and Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous. Same reason why otters, hippos and crocodiles have their eyes and nostrils as far up on their heads as possible.

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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led to from the prolemuris and to the Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous. Same reason why otters, hippos and crocodiles have their eyes and nostrils as far up on their heads as possible.
24th Apr '15 10:17:28 AM SharleeD
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** Possibly the evolutionary lineage that led to the prolemuris and Na'vi went through a semi-aquatic phase in the past, which made positioning of the nostrils higher on the body more advantageous. Same reason why otters, hippos and crocodiles have their eyes and nostrils as far up on their heads as possible.
24th Apr '15 10:14:03 AM SharleeD
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*** The contact group which piloted the avatars hadn't ever claimed they were real Na'vi in the first place, they just wanted to understand and be understood by them well enough to help smooth relations. It was a high-tech version of diplomats dressing in the clothing of the country they're negotiating with, the better to put their counterparts at their ease and demonstrate (truthfully or not) empathy and respect for the host culture.




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** Could be hard to plan for if the rocks you're digging for are only being ''held down'' by the rock layers you're digging through. How much use is existing know-how about mining techniques supposed to be at averting mine collapses, if half the material that's collapsing is falling ''up''?
11th Apr '15 11:16:55 PM Historian1912
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** Similarly, it's hard to call Jake and any of the marines "jungle fighters", considering his initial bewilderment at the jungle environment on Pandora (in addition to the alien plants) and his first outing has him running for his life in a matter of seconds! He ''only'' becomes a decent fighter once he trains with the Na'vi and becomes familiar with the terrain and environment. Likewise, if the RDA were experienced in fighting in rainforests, they sure would have ''won'' a long time ago?

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** Similarly, it's hard to call Jake and any of the marines "jungle fighters", considering his initial bewilderment at the jungle environment on Pandora (in addition to the alien plants) and his first outing has him running for his life in a matter of seconds! He ''only'' becomes a decent fighter once he trains with the Na'vi and becomes familiar with the terrain and environment. Likewise, if the RDA were experienced in fighting in rainforests, they sure would have ''won'' a long time ago?ago?
*** They could all be experts in jungle warfare on Earth and it wouldn't have made a damn bit a of difference for two reasons. One, there did not seem to be much war going on until the events of the film itself. Two, its Pandora, also known as a portal to hell. There are "cats" that close to being as tall as a human being, if not larger, standing normally. Similar predators on Earth are much smaller. This place appears to be actively trying to kill you. The fact that the RDA expedition has survived at all should be considered a great achievement.
11th Apr '15 1:06:39 AM Bezy
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* At first it's rather strange to see how trained horseback archers and hunters like the Na'vi would blindly charge at a firing line of sec-op forces, ratehr than flank them, until one remembers that this is how they actualy start their hunts on larger beasts. They get them into motion via a stampede and then pick out single targets by driving them away from the main group. Which is most likely how they expected their tactics to work against the human soldiers.

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* At first it's rather strange to see how trained horseback archers and hunters like the Na'vi would blindly charge at a firing line of sec-op forces, ratehr rather than flank them, until one remembers that this is how they actualy start their hunts on larger beasts. They get them into motion via a stampede and then pick out single targets by driving them away from the main group. Which is most likely how they expected their tactics to work against the human soldiers.
7th Apr '15 7:40:56 AM MrDeath
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* So the Navis finally drove back those assholes humans and now they can live in peace again, yes ? Think again. It took the all the Navis on the planet (aided by the animals even) to do so and the soldiers weren't even a full army. They were just a very small force tasked with protecting the scientists. But, now, the Earth will, in a few years, recieve a message (or even survivors of the conflict) saying that they were almost all killed by trbes of savages when they were just trying to mine (granted, things escalated but that was originally their only purpose). It's also strongly implied that humanity needs Unobtanium to solve its energy crisis. All the above means the Na'Vis have only around six years of peace before humanity come back. With ''EVERYTHING'' they have. Orbital bombardement, KillSat, Robots, you name it.. The Navis will all be killed/made slaves.

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* So the Navis finally drove back those assholes humans and now they can live in peace again, yes ? Think again. It took the all the Navis on the planet (aided by the animals even) to do so and the soldiers weren't even a full army. They were just a very small force tasked with protecting the scientists. But, now, the Earth will, in a few years, recieve a message (or even survivors of the conflict) saying that they were almost all killed by trbes of savages when they were just trying to mine (granted, things escalated but that was originally their only purpose). It's also strongly implied that humanity needs Unobtanium to solve its energy crisis. All the above means the Na'Vis have only around six years of peace before humanity come back. With ''EVERYTHING'' they have. Orbital bombardement, KillSat, Robots, you name it.. The Navis will all be killed/made slaves.
6th Apr '15 9:20:33 AM cricri3007
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* So the Navis finally drove back those assholes humans and now they can live in peace again, yes ? Think again. It took the all the Navis on the planet (aided by the animals even) to do so and the soldiers weren't even a full army. They were just a very small force tasked with protecting the scientists. But, now, the Earth will, in a few years, recieve a message (or even survivors of the conflict) saying that they were almost all killed by trbes of savages when they were just trying to mine (granted, things escalated but that was originally their only purpose). It's also strongly implied that humanity needs Unobtanium to solve its energy crisis. All the above means the Na'Vis have only around six years of peace before humanity come back. With ''EVERYTHING'' they have. Orbital bombardement, KillSat, Robots, you name it.. The Navis will all be killed/made slaves.
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