History Fridge / ApocalypseNow

13th Apr '18 7:46:13 AM UltraWanker
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* The U.S Command sending Willard, a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. However, the concept anf true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.

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* The U.S Command sending Willard, a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. However, the concept anf and true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if experienced; if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.
13th Apr '18 7:44:13 AM UltraWanker
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* In ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', I really disliked where the rogue officer describes how the Viet Cong were not evil despite committing [[MoralEventHorizon grossly evil acts]], but then I realized that he was [[MisaimedFandom not exactly sane]] [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter or a good judge of character]] and we are not supposed to believe the Viet Cong are good.
* It always bothered me why U.S Command sent a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that the concept and the true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.

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* In ''Film/ApocalypseNow'', I really disliked where the The rogue officer describes describing how the Viet Cong were not evil despite committing [[MoralEventHorizon grossly evil acts]], but acts]] can come across as odd. But then I realized that again, he was [[MisaimedFandom not exactly sane]] sane [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter or a good judge of character]] character]], and we are not supposed to believe the Viet Cong are good.
* It always bothered me why The U.S Command sent sending Willard, a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that However, the concept and the anf true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.



* For the longest time I thought the part right before the crew enters Cambodia past that bridge was surreal just for the sake of being surreal. Then I realized that we are looking through the eyes and ears of Private Lance who is currently stoned on drugs, '''no wonder''' it was surreal.
* While the plot of Apocalypse Now is essentially Conrad's ''Heart of Darkness'', most of the scenes are taken nearly verbatim from a real-life, first person account of the war, ''Dispatches'' by Michael Herr. The scene at the bridge is exactly as described, right down to the stoned-out M79 gunner killing the screaming VC with a single, instinctive shot in the dark. The movie was surreal because the war was surreal.

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* For the longest time I thought the The part right before the crew enters Cambodia past that bridge was can come across as surreal just for the sake of being surreal. Then I realized that it. But then again, we are looking through the eyes and ears of Private Lance who is currently stoned on drugs, '''no wonder''' it was surreal.
* While the plot of Apocalypse Now ''Apocalypse Now'' is essentially Conrad's ''Heart of Darkness'', most of the scenes are taken nearly verbatim from a real-life, first person account of the war, ''Dispatches'' by Michael Herr. The scene at the bridge is exactly as described, right down to the stoned-out M79 gunner killing the screaming VC with a single, instinctive shot in the dark. The movie was surreal because the war was surreal.










31st Mar '18 1:48:41 PM flyboy254
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** Also, in Redux, it's noted that a Capt. Colby is sent to make the initial attempt to stop Kurtz. Colby's background is the complete opposite of Willard's but on arrival Willard meets Colby and finds that the fine upstanding officer and his team have fallen in with Kurtz. It's possible that Willard's already unstable psychology made him safe from corruption.
21st Oct '17 1:53:36 AM Nightrider88
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* Near the end of the film, while Willard are looking on Kurtz's posessions, he notices the "Golden Bough" book. That one, which says, that you should kill the old priestly king, if you want to succeed him. Supposedly insane Kurtz was perfectly aware of what's happaening, his place in this, and that he's gonna die. However, Willard refuse to accept reign...
3rd Sep '17 3:18:04 PM ading
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* Colonel Kurtz's assassination turns out being for nothing in the long run. The entire reason Willard was contracted to kill Kurtz was so that his methods of fighting in Laos and Cambodia would be kept secret as America wasn't supposed to be there, even though that type of tactic would be beneficial towards achieving victory. America ends up leaving Vietnam, giving up on winning the war, and the presence of MACV-SOG and the CIA's top secret missions going on there end up being revealed after the end of the war anyway. The death of Kurtz covered up nothing. Kurtz had practical military necessity in mind, not his commanders. A model officer and a loving father and husband was killed for no real reason.
* The real fridge horror sets in when you realize we need people like Kurtz to make war, and still manage to think war is something that should be done.
** Except that Kurtz didn't help win the war. The Vietnamese won the war; Kurtz has gone rogue, and is diverting military resources and killing American servicemen, as well as local civilians, because he's gone mad from a combination of PTSD and his own sense of power and entitlement. No army needs soldiers that won't take orders and won't recognise any authority but their own.

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* Colonel Kurtz's assassination turns out being for nothing in the long run. The entire reason Willard was contracted to kill Kurtz was so that his methods of fighting in Laos and Cambodia would be kept secret as America wasn't supposed to be there, even though that type of tactic would be beneficial towards achieving victory. America ends up leaving Vietnam, giving up on winning the war, and the presence of MACV-SOG and the CIA's top secret missions going on there end up being revealed after the end of the war anyway. The death of Kurtz covered up nothing. Kurtz had practical military necessity in mind, not his commanders. A model officer and a loving father and husband was killed for no real reason.
* The real fridge horror sets in when you realize we need people like Kurtz to make war, and still manage to think war is something that should be done.
** Except that Kurtz didn't help win the war. The Vietnamese won the war; Kurtz has gone rogue, and is diverting military resources and killing American servicemen, as well as local civilians, because he's gone mad from a combination of PTSD and his own sense of power and entitlement. No army needs soldiers that won't take orders and won't recognise any authority but their own.




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* Colonel Kurtz's assassination turns out being for nothing in the long run. The entire reason Willard was contracted to kill Kurtz was so that his methods of fighting in Laos and Cambodia would be kept secret as America wasn't supposed to be there, even though that type of tactic would be beneficial towards achieving victory. America ends up leaving Vietnam, giving up on winning the war, and the presence of MACV-SOG and the CIA's top secret missions going on there end up being revealed after the end of the war anyway. The death of Kurtz covered up nothing. Kurtz had practical military necessity in mind, not his commanders. A model officer and a loving father and husband was killed for no real reason.

18th Jun '17 7:15:34 AM Eygam
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** The movie takes place in 1969, they really didn't know they would draw from the war six year later. They obviously didn't act on facts only viewers know. And saying that the only consequence would be communists getting a bit angrier is really shortsighted. Firstly, it would fuel propaganda in Communist countries (look at what the bad bad America is doing in a neutral country), which would be a blow to the US Cold War efforts. Secondly, it's not just their enemies who would get angry but their allies too (I know the US pretty much wipe their butt with the UN but still). And probably most importantly, the war was already losing support of the US public, this would really not help the army agenda.
28th Nov '16 4:05:55 AM Doug86
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* It always bothered me why U.S Command sent a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that the concept and the true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in WorldWar2, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.

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* It always bothered me why U.S Command sent a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that the concept and the true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in WorldWar2, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.
1st Nov '16 6:47:37 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* It always bothered me why U.S Command sent a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that the concept of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard.

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* It always bothered me why U.S Command sent a recently divorced and clearly traumatized veteran of the currently ongoing Vietnam War on a top-secret mission to kill a rogue U.S Special Forces Colonel. You would think they would choose another Special Forces guy who didn't have all these psychological issues to take the mission. Then I realized that the concept and the true impact of post-traumatic stress disorder was only recently coming into the limelight at that point, and before that, most military forces around the world didn't care if you were traumatized by what you experienced--if your body was intact and you could fire a gun, you were good to go. The U.S. military would be no different towards Captain Willard. Even in WorldWar2, PTSD was not recognized and most commanders refused to accept it as it would tamper with their worldview.
26th Aug '16 4:20:36 AM 06tele
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* While the plot of Apocalypse Now is essentially Conrad's ''Heart of Darkness'', most of the scenes are taken nearly verbatim from a real-life, first person account of the war, whose title I alas cannot remember. The scene at the bridge is exactly as described, right down to the stoned-out M79 gunner killing the screaming VC with a single, instinctive shot in the dark. The movie was surreal because the war was surreal.
** The book is Dispatches by Michael Herr, by the way.

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* While the plot of Apocalypse Now is essentially Conrad's ''Heart of Darkness'', most of the scenes are taken nearly verbatim from a real-life, first person account of the war, whose title I alas cannot remember.''Dispatches'' by Michael Herr. The scene at the bridge is exactly as described, right down to the stoned-out M79 gunner killing the screaming VC with a single, instinctive shot in the dark. The movie was surreal because the war was surreal.
** The book is Dispatches by Michael Herr, by the way.
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** Except that Kurtz didn't help win the war. The Vietnamese won the war; Kurtz has gone rogue, and is diverting military resources and killing American servicemen, as well as local civilians, because he's gone mad from a combination of PTSD and his own sense of power and entitlement. No army needs soldiers that won't take orders and won't recognise any authority but their own.
11th Jul '16 7:46:10 PM evilwillhunting
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* One of the Air Calvary choppers auto-rotated in near the tree-line shortly before the napalm strike. If the crew survived the crash, they most certainly were caught in the napalm strike.
* An elderly Vietnamese couple are watching the medevac'ed Cav Trooper in horror, when the VC Saboteur shoulders past them to throw her boobytrapped non-la into chopper. The elderly couple (who were doing nothing but watching the carnage in shock) are gunned down with the saboteur, even though they had absolutely nothing to do with the deed.
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