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28th Aug '17 1:24:31 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'':
** Pizzazz's mother [[MissingMom ran off]] when she was very young. Her father ended up growing apart from Pizzazz after the divorce, with his only way of showing her any attention being giving her material things. This is why Pizzazz ended up a RichBitch SpoiledBrat. Pizzazz tries to [[WhenYouComingHomeDad get her dad's attention]] but [[WellDoneSonGuy can't]], which has caused her InferioritySuperiorityComplex. As a result, she wants to be ''the'' most popular rock band out there, which urges on her intense [[TheRival rivalry]] with Jem and the Holograms.
** The music video to "It's A Hard, Hard Life" shows that The Stingers spent a lot of time being [[StreetMusician poor and living on the streets]] when they started out. This explains why Rapture is a [[ConMan con artist]] and why they only seem to care about [[ItsAllAboutMe themselves]] [[TrueCompanions and each other]].
4th Aug '17 6:52:37 AM JJHIL325
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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' has several -- and there's more than a hint that these continued piling up even during his adulthood. To start, there were his [[AbusiveParents parents]], who [[ResentfulGuardian resented him for the simple reason of being alive]] as they were [[ShotgunWedding forced to marry each other because of it]], with his mother, Beatrice, creating his InferioritySuperiorityComplex by giving him no intrinsical value other than to compensate for what he had done. There's also the way [[ALessonLearnedTooWell he took at heart the advice given to him]] by [[BrokenAce Secre]][[StepfordSmiler tariat.]] Still, he was able to grow up into a semi-normal horse.....who slowly lost his shit in between [[TheChainsOfCommanding the constant rehearsals of his show]], his [[WellDoneSonGuy still]] [[DesperatelyCravesAffection underlying]] [[LoveHungry issues]] accentuated by [[StageMom his mother still hanging up on his every word]], and last but not least, [[CorruptTheCutie his increasing corruption]], caused by [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drifting around Hollywoo(d)]] and his overall [[TheCorruptible vulnerable, addictive]] nature. Most telling is his guilt at having [[EtTuBrute betrayed his friend and mentor, Herb Kazzaz]], for the sake of his career and [[TheShowMustGoOn keeping his and Herb's show ''Horsin' Around'' going]] and his [[TheOneThatGotAway unconfessed love towards Charlotte]]. By the end, the complications and inability to navigate through life, as well as [[JadeColouredGlasses his disillusion at achieving happiness on his own in any form]] has led [=BoJack=] to his [[TheEeyore current style of living]], all while being [[InternalizedCategorism convinced that he can't change at all]], [[SelfFulfillingProphecy which]] [[TragicHero only dooms him to wreak havoc on his few remains of humanity]]. However, this is ultimately {{Deconstructed|Trope}} by [[DumbassHasAPoint Todd]] in season 3, after [[spoiler:finding out Emily and [=BoJack=] had sex]] and Bojack attempts to justify it by being drunk.
--->'''Todd:''' You can't keep doing this! You can't keep doing shitty things, and then feel bad about yourself [[EasilyForgiven like that makes it OK]]. You need to be better! ''*[=BoJack=] tries to apologize*'' No! No. [=BoJack=] just... stop. '''''You''''' are all the things that are wrong with you. It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped It's you, alright? It's you!]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' has several -- and there's more than a hint that these continued piling up even during his adulthood. To start, there were his [[AbusiveParents parents]], who [[ResentfulGuardian resented him for the simple reason of being alive]] as they were [[ShotgunWedding forced to marry each other because of it]], with his mother, Beatrice, creating his InferioritySuperiorityComplex by giving him no intrinsical value other than to compensate for what he had done. There's also the way [[ALessonLearnedTooWell he took at heart the advice given to him]] by [[BrokenAce Secre]][[StepfordSmiler tariat.]] Still, he was able to grow up into a semi-normal horse.....who slowly lost his shit in between [[TheChainsOfCommanding the constant rehearsals of his show]], his [[WellDoneSonGuy still]] [[DesperatelyCravesAffection underlying]] [[LoveHungry issues]] accentuated by [[StageMom his mother still hanging up on his every word]], and last but not least, [[CorruptTheCutie his increasing corruption]], caused by [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drifting around Hollywoo(d)]] and his overall [[TheCorruptible vulnerable, addictive]] nature. Most telling is his guilt at having [[EtTuBrute betrayed his friend and mentor, Herb Kazzaz]], for the sake of his career and [[TheShowMustGoOn keeping his and Herb's show ''Horsin' Around'' going]] and his [[TheOneThatGotAway unconfessed love towards Charlotte]]. By the end, the complications and inability to navigate through life, as well as [[JadeColouredGlasses his disillusion at achieving happiness on his own in any form]] has led [=BoJack=] to his [[TheEeyore current style of living]], all while being [[InternalizedCategorism convinced that he can't change at all]], [[SelfFulfillingProphecy which]] [[TragicHero only dooms him to wreak havoc on his few remains of humanity]]. However, this This is ultimately gets {{Deconstructed|Trope}} by [[DumbassHasAPoint Todd]] in season 3, after [[spoiler:finding out Emily and [=BoJack=] had sex]] sex with his girlfriend Emily]] and Bojack attempts to justify it by being drunk.
--->'''Todd:''' [[AesopAmnesia You can't keep doing this! You can't keep doing shitty things, and then feel bad about yourself yourself]] [[EasilyForgiven like that makes it OK]]. You need to be better! ''*[=BoJack=] tries to apologize*'' No! No. [=BoJack=] just... stop. '''''You''''' are all the things that are wrong with you. you! It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped It's you, alright? It's you!]]
20th Jul '17 8:08:05 AM JJHIL325
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--->'''Todd:''' [[AesopAmesia You can't keep doing this!]] You can't keep doing shitty things, and then feel bad about yourself [[EasilyForgiven like that makes it OK]]. You need to be better! ''*[=BoJack=] tries to apologize*'' No! No. [=BoJack=] just... stop. '''''You''''' are all the things that are wrong with you. It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. It's you, alright? It's you!

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--->'''Todd:''' [[AesopAmesia You can't keep doing this!]] this! You can't keep doing shitty things, and then feel bad about yourself [[EasilyForgiven like that makes it OK]]. You need to be better! ''*[=BoJack=] tries to apologize*'' No! No. [=BoJack=] just... stop. '''''You''''' are all the things that are wrong with you. It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped It's you, alright? It's you!you!]]
20th Jul '17 8:07:17 AM JJHIL325
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* ''WesternAnimation/BojackHorseman'' has several -- and there's more than a hint that these continued piling up even during his adulthood. To start, there were his [[AbusiveParents parents]], who [[ResentfulGuardian resented him for the simple reason of being alive]] as they were [[ShotgunWedding forced to marry each other because of it]], with his mother, Beatrice, creating his InferioritySuperiorityComplex by giving him no intrinsical value other than to compensate for what he had done. There's also the way [[ALessonLearnedTooWell he took at heart the advice given to him]] by [[BrokenAce Secre]][[StepfordSmiler tariat.]] Still, he was able to grow up into a semi-normal horse.....who slowly lost his shit in between [[TheChainsOfCommanding the constant rehearsals of his show]], his [[WellDoneSonGuy still]] [[DesperatelyCravesAffection underlying]] [[LoveHungry issues]] accentuated by [[StageMom his mother still hanging up on his every word]], and last but not least, [[CorruptTheCutie his increasing corruption]], caused by [[SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll drifting around Hollywoo(d)]] and his overall [[TheCorruptible vulnerable, addictive]] nature. Most telling is his guilt at having [[EtTuBrute betrayed his friend and mentor, Herb Kazzaz]], for the sake of his career and [[TheShowMustGoOn keeping his and Herb's show ''Horsin' Around'' going]] and his [[TheOneThatGotAway unconfessed love towards Charlotte]]. By the end, the complications and inability to navigate through life, as well as [[JadeColouredGlasses his disillusion at achieving happiness on his own in any form]] has led [=BoJack=] to his [[TheEeyore current style of living]], all while being [[InternalizedCategorism convinced that he can't change at all]], [[SelfFulfillingProphecy which]] [[TragicHero only dooms him to wreak havoc on his few remains of humanity]]. However, this is ultimately {{Deconstructed|Trope}} by [[DumbassHasAPoint Todd]] in season 3, after [[spoiler:finding out Emily and [=BoJack=] had sex]] and Bojack attempts to justify it by being drunk.
--->'''Todd:''' [[AesopAmesia You can't keep doing this!]] You can't keep doing shitty things, and then feel bad about yourself [[EasilyForgiven like that makes it OK]]. You need to be better! ''*[=BoJack=] tries to apologize*'' No! No. [=BoJack=] just... stop. '''''You''''' are all the things that are wrong with you. It's not the alcohol, or the drugs, or any of the shitty things that happened to you in your career, or when you were a kid. It's you, alright? It's you!
4th Jul '17 9:10:35 PM plcthecd
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* On ''WesternAnimation/WackyRaces'', Dick Dastardly laments that he became a villain simply because the other racers forced him to be one.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/WackyRaces'', Dick Dastardly laments that he became a villain [[ThenLetMeBeEvil simply because the other racers forced him to be one.one]].
14th Jun '17 12:58:56 AM VisibleBear
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-->'''Clover:''' Finally, an evil villain who isn't bitter about being dissed or something.
-->'''Jerry:''' It says here that the Lady Dragon left the video game industry several years ago because they refused to make some of her more eccentric games.
-->'''Clover:''' [[LampshadeHanging Figures.]]
24th May '17 4:16:58 PM Troperr2016
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Roger reveals that the reason he's such as selfish {{Jerkass}} is because it would literally kill his people to be nice: if they don't "let their bitchiness out" on a regular basis, it will turn into bile and poison them to death. Despite this, the Smith family does not seem to believe him on this as at that time, they were trying to reform him and to add insult to injury, Roger still gets chewed out for his behavior even though such behavior is necessary for him to survive. Of course, this still doesn't absolve Roger of the numerous crimes and atrocities he's committed. There's a fine line between being rude and bitchy and being an amoral sociopath, and Roger's crossed that line numerous times. His "Ricky Spanish" persona alone has done such things as defecating in the chest of a person undergoing open heart surgery to stabbing Avery Bullock's wife to death, all ForTheEvulz.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Roger reveals that the reason he's such as selfish {{Jerkass}} is because it would literally kill his people to be nice: if they don't "let their bitchiness out" on a regular basis, it will turn into bile and poison them to death. Despite this, the Smith family does not seem to believe him on this as at that time, they were trying to reform him and to add insult to injury, Roger still gets chewed out for his behavior even though such behavior is necessary for him to survive. Of course, this still doesn't absolve Roger of the numerous crimes and atrocities he's committed. There's a fine line between being rude and bitchy and being an amoral sociopath, and Roger's crossed that line numerous times. His "Ricky Spanish" persona alone has done such things as defecating in the chest of a person undergoing open heart surgery to stabbing Avery Bullock's wife to death, all ForTheEvulz.ForTheEvulz
*** Roger develops another one of these excuses when he finds out that he was sent to Earth as a crash test dummy, which devastates him for a month. It turns out that his own race lied to him about why he was being sent to Earth by telling him that he was "The Decider" and that he was to decide the fate of Earth. It's unknown why Roger deserved any of this but it's implied in a later episode that Emperor Zing did this to Roger in revenge for having an affair.



** Emperor Zing, the villain of the episode "Lost In Space" is a member of the same species as Roger so the rule of "act like a jerk or die" applies to Zing as well. However, Zing's own biology is not the reason for why he has acted like a tyrant who humiliated his own slaves in public by showing their flops in their love lives and then taking away their private parts for propaganda. It turns out that his chosen soul mate was Roger but Zing's heart gets shattered into pieces when he catches Roger cheating on him with another man. He kept this excuse a secret from the public until Jeff exposed him but it's obvious that the affair caused Zing to jump off the deep end starting with him becoming obsessed with shopping and then declaring an all out war on love itself.
*** That last one isn't so much of a FreudianExcuse as it is Stan's own ignorance.

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*** The last one isn't so much of a FreudianExcuse as it is Stan's own ignorance
** Emperor Zing, the villain of the episode "Lost In Space" is a member of the same species as Roger so the rule of "act like a jerk or die" technically applies to Zing as well. However, Zing's own biology is not the reason for why he has acted like a tyrant who humiliated his own slaves in public by showing their flops in their love lives and then taking away their private parts for propaganda. It turns out that his chosen soul mate was Roger but Zing's heart gets shattered into pieces when he catches Roger cheating on him with another man. He kept this excuse a secret from the public until Jeff exposed him but it's obvious that the affair caused Zing to jump off the deep end starting with him becoming obsessed with shopping and then declaring an all out war on love itself.
*** That last one isn't so much of a FreudianExcuse as it is Stan's own ignorance.
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24th May '17 4:07:49 PM Troperr2016
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Roger reveals that the reason he's such as selfish {{Jerkass}} is because it would literally kill his people to be nice: if they don't "let their bitchiness out" on a regular basis, it will turn into bile and poison them to death. Of course, this still doesn't absolve Roger of the numerous crimes and atrocities he's committed. There's a fine line between being rude and bitchy and being an amoral sociopath, and Roger's crossed that line numerous times. His "Ricky Spanish" persona alone has done such things as defecating in the chest of a person undergoing open heart surgery to stabbing Avery Bullock's wife to death, all ForTheEvulz.
** Stan Smith is frequently {{abusive|Dad}} towards his son Steve, in hopes of toughening him up because of his own history as an unpopular kid, and in "Bully for Steve", a victim of a cruel bully himself. It's also revealed that part of the reason he does such a terrible job helping his son through any ComingOfAge moments is that his own father was never there to do it for him so he literally has no idea how to handle it.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Roger reveals that the reason he's such as selfish {{Jerkass}} is because it would literally kill his people to be nice: if they don't "let their bitchiness out" on a regular basis, it will turn into bile and poison them to death. Despite this, the Smith family does not seem to believe him on this as at that time, they were trying to reform him and to add insult to injury, Roger still gets chewed out for his behavior even though such behavior is necessary for him to survive. Of course, this still doesn't absolve Roger of the numerous crimes and atrocities he's committed. There's a fine line between being rude and bitchy and being an amoral sociopath, and Roger's crossed that line numerous times. His "Ricky Spanish" persona alone has done such things as defecating in the chest of a person undergoing open heart surgery to stabbing Avery Bullock's wife to death, all ForTheEvulz.
** Stan Smith is frequently {{abusive|Dad}} towards his son Steve, in hopes of toughening him up because of his own history as an unpopular kid, and in "Bully for Steve", a victim of a cruel bully himself. It's also revealed that part of the reason he does such a terrible job helping his son through any ComingOfAge moments is that his own father was never there to do it for him so he literally has no idea how to handle it. He also had to deal with his mother's antics during his childhood as well
** Emperor Zing, the villain of the episode "Lost In Space" is a member of the same species as Roger so the rule of "act like a jerk or die" applies to Zing as well. However, Zing's own biology is not the reason for why he has acted like a tyrant who humiliated his own slaves in public by showing their flops in their love lives and then taking away their private parts for propaganda. It turns out that his chosen soul mate was Roger but Zing's heart gets shattered into pieces when he catches Roger cheating on him with another man. He kept this excuse a secret from the public until Jeff exposed him but it's obvious that the affair caused Zing to jump off the deep end starting with him becoming obsessed with shopping and then declaring an all out war on love itself.
6th May '17 5:01:04 PM nombretomado
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* In ''TransformersAnimated'', why Bumblebee would rather work on his own than to learn the value of teamwork could be attributed to what happened in "Autoboot Camp." His first team was consisted of [[JerkJock jerks]] who went as far as unscrewing his legs then locking him inside a locker. It didn't help that his {{Drill Sergeant|Nasty}} was [[{{Jerkass}} Sentinel Prime]], who took every opportunity to humiliate him. The only ones who didn't treat him like crap were Bulkhead (who he had written off as a hic from the energon farms) and Longarm. Bumblebee eventually warms up to Bulkhead, and takes the heat for him - which boots him out of Sentinel's good graces and gets him demoted to Space Bridge Repair duty (resulting in his Stingers being downgraded to be useless in combat).

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* In ''TransformersAnimated'', ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'', why Bumblebee would rather work on his own than to learn the value of teamwork could be attributed to what happened in "Autoboot Camp." His first team was consisted of [[JerkJock jerks]] who went as far as unscrewing his legs then locking him inside a locker. It didn't help that his {{Drill Sergeant|Nasty}} was [[{{Jerkass}} Sentinel Prime]], who took every opportunity to humiliate him. The only ones who didn't treat him like crap were Bulkhead (who he had written off as a hic from the energon farms) and Longarm. Bumblebee eventually warms up to Bulkhead, and takes the heat for him - which boots him out of Sentinel's good graces and gets him demoted to Space Bridge Repair duty (resulting in his Stingers being downgraded to be useless in combat).
14th Feb '17 7:13:45 AM Ccook1956
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-->'''Stripperella:''' I'll admit, you defiantly have some valid reasons for not liking models.

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-->'''Stripperella:''' I'll admit, you defiantly definitely have some valid reasons for not liking models.
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