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17th Jan '18 9:05:05 AM Njein
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** In regards to the Westergaard family, which rules the Southern Isles with an iron fist, Freud would probably have a big field day with Prince Hans and his 12 older brothers.
*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was way more worse than he described, as he was downplaying it. [[spoiler:His kingdom has been transformed into a tyrannical dictatorship run by his EvilOverlord father, who deliberately encouraged violence within his family and raised all his sons to be strong and useful, but scornfully saw Hans to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only his mother and one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression and suicidal ideations stemming from the extensive abuse he received from his family, and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of his older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were psychologically abused and manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
*** Like Hans, [[spoiler:Lars was also bullied for being the youngest (albeit not as violently). Because of this, Lars abhorred how his brothers cruelly treat their youngest brother and is the only one to stand up for Hans, but couldn't do much, likely because their father did not accept such interactions. Hans wasn't sure if the bullying Lars himself suffered made him pity his youngest brother or if he was a genuinely nice person because of it.]]

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** In regards to the Westergaard family, clan, which rules the Southern Isles with an iron fist, Freud would probably have a big field day with Prince Hans and the king's thirteen sons. The king micromanaged most of his 12 older brothers.
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*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was way more worse than he described, as he was downplaying it. [[spoiler:His the abuse. His kingdom has been transformed into a tyrannical dictatorship run by his EvilOverlord father, who deliberately encouraged violence within his family and raised all his sons to be strong and useful, but scornfully saw Hans to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only his mother and one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression and suicidal ideations thoughts stemming from the extensive abuse he received from his family, and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] Elsa. And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of his older brothers, [[spoiler:as as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were psychologically abused and manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
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*** Like Hans, [[spoiler:Lars Lars was also bullied for being the youngest (albeit not as violently). Because of this, Lars abhorred how his brothers cruelly treat their youngest brother and is the only one to stand up for Hans, but couldn't do much, likely because their father did not accept such interactions. Hans wasn't sure if the bullying Lars himself suffered made him pity his youngest brother or if he was a genuinely nice person because of it.]]
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8th Jan '18 8:31:44 AM Njein
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** In regards to the Westergaard family, which rules the Southern Isles with an iron fist, Freud would probably have a big field day with the king's 13 sons.
*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much worse than he described, as he was downplaying it. [[spoiler:His homeland is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father, who deliberately encouraged violence within his family and raised all his sons to be strong and useful, but saw his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only his mother and one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath, and really could do nothing but acknowledge him with weak smiles. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of Hans' older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were psychologically abused and manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
*** Like Hans, [[spoiler:Lars was also bullied for being the youngest (albeit not as violently). Because of this, Lars abhorred how his brothers cruelly treat their youngest brother and is the only one to stand up for Hans. Hans wasn't sure if the bullying Lars himself suffered made him pity his youngest brother or if he was a genuinely nice person because of it.]]

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** In regards to the Westergaard family, which rules the Southern Isles with an iron fist, Freud would probably have a big field day with the king's 13 sons.
Prince Hans and his 12 older brothers.
*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much way more worse than he described, as he was downplaying it. [[spoiler:His homeland is kingdom has been transformed into a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling EvilOverlord father, who deliberately encouraged violence within his family and raised all his sons to be strong and useful, but scornfully saw his youngest son Hans to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only his mother and one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath, and really could do nothing but acknowledge him with weak smiles. wrath. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression and suicidal ideations stemming from cruelty the extensive abuse he received from his family, and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of Hans' his older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were psychologically abused and manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
*** Like Hans, [[spoiler:Lars was also bullied for being the youngest (albeit not as violently). Because of this, Lars abhorred how his brothers cruelly treat their youngest brother and is the only one to stand up for Hans.Hans, but couldn't do much, likely because their father did not accept such interactions. Hans wasn't sure if the bullying Lars himself suffered made him pity his youngest brother or if he was a genuinely nice person because of it.]]
3rd Jan '18 1:36:13 PM Asherinka
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* In ''Film/{{Thor}}'', the titular Norse deity's brother Loki is revealed to actually be [[spoiler: [[EvilOrphan adopted.]] What's more, his true father is Laufey, the leader of the Frost Giants, who are sworn enemies of the Asgardians.]] This combined with [[ParentalFavoritism Odin's clear favoritism]] [[TheUnfavourite of Thor]] [[TheResenter contributes]] to Loki becoming [[spoiler: [[BigBad the main bad guy]]]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds as illustrated]] throughout the rest of the movie and in the subsequent ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.

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* In ''Film/{{Thor}}'', the titular Norse deity's brother Loki [[Characters/MCULoki Loki]] is revealed to actually be [[spoiler: [[EvilOrphan adopted.]] What's more, his true father is Laufey, the leader of the Frost Giants, who are sworn enemies of the Asgardians.]] This combined with [[ParentalFavoritism Odin's clear favoritism]] [[TheUnfavourite of Thor]] [[TheResenter contributes]] to Loki becoming [[spoiler: [[BigBad the main bad guy]]]], [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds as illustrated]] throughout the rest of the movie and in the subsequent ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''.
2nd Jan '18 10:38:57 AM Njein
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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'': It seems that the major characters within the movie have some sort of backstory as to why they turned out that way.

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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'': It seems that the major characters within the movie have some sort of backstory as to why they turned out that way.way as adults.



*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much worse, as he was downplaying the abuse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of Hans' older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were emotionally abused and psychologically manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]

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*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much worse, worse than he described, as he was downplaying the abuse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles it. [[spoiler:His homeland is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises father, who deliberately encouraged violence within his family and raised all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards saw his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only his mother and one brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing the king's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak wrath, and afraid of her husband to really could do anything nothing but acknowledge him.him with weak smiles. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of Hans' older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were emotionally abused and psychologically abused and manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
22nd Dec '17 6:29:06 AM Njein
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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'':

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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'':''Disney/{{Frozen}}'': It seems that the major characters within the movie have some sort of backstory as to why they turned out that way.



*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much worse, as he was downplaying the abuse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing their father's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.

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*** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization]] reveals it was much worse, as he was downplaying the abuse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother brother, Lars, showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing their father's the king's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.



* In the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster'', Godzilla explains (translated by 2 fairies called the Shobijin) the reason why he hates humanity is because they attacked him unprovoked. Rodan, the monster he's fighting with, agrees with him as well.

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster'', Godzilla explains (translated by 2 fairies called the Shobijin) the reason why he hates humanity is because they attacked him unprovoked. Rodan, the monster he's fighting with, agrees Rodan and Mothra agree with him as well.
20th Dec '17 8:00:54 AM Njein
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** [[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing their father's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.

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** In regards to the Westergaard family, which rules the Southern Isles with an iron fist, Freud would probably have a big field day with the king's 13 sons.
***
[[JerkassWoobie Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 older brothers ignore him for 2 years, but [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the novelization makes novelization]] reveals it worse.was much worse, as he was downplaying the abuse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of facing their father's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], regardless of what he did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
*** A case can be made for most of Hans' older brothers, [[spoiler:as part of their abrasiveness stems from the fact that they were emotionally abused and psychologically manipulated by their father to the point that they've become emotionally dependent on him and are now {{Spoiled Brat}}s. Even their abuse of Hans stems from a desire to make their father favor them for showing no mercy towards others.]]
*** Like Hans, [[spoiler:Lars was also bullied for being the youngest (albeit not as violently). Because of this, Lars abhorred how his brothers cruelly treat their youngest brother and is the only one to stand up for Hans. Hans wasn't sure if the bullying Lars himself suffered made him pity his youngest brother or if he was a genuinely nice person because of it.]]



* In the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster'', Godzilla explains (translated by 2 fairies called the Shobijin) why he hates humanity is because they attacked him unprovoked. Rodan, the monster he's fighting with, agrees with him as well.

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* In the ''Franchise/{{Godzilla}}'' movie ''Film/GhidorahTheThreeHeadedMonster'', Godzilla explains (translated by 2 fairies called the Shobijin) the reason why he hates humanity is because they attacked him unprovoked. Rodan, the monster he's fighting with, agrees with him as well.
16th Nov '17 6:17:16 PM Divra
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* ''Film/GoldenEye'': Former British intelligence operative and BigBad Janus claims that what he is after isn't money, but revenge on Great Britain for the death of his parents (who were Lienz Cossacks). Bond, however questions both his reason and motive; there is no way in hell the son of Lienz cossacks would have passed the necessary background checks to join MI6, and his clearance would have allowed him to hurt Britain immensely just by turning whistleblower, so if he was just after revenge, why wait for decades for an opportunity to strike that just happens to be profitable?
1st Oct '17 1:26:02 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Film/DaysOfBeingWild'', a film by WongKarWai: The main character Yuddy/York (played by Creator/LeslieCheung) is a self-centered playboy who mistreats/manipulates women by making them fall for him and breaking their hearts. It is strongly hinted in the film that this is because his biological mother deserted him when he was younger and having a troubled emotionally distant relationship with his foster mother.

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* In ''Film/DaysOfBeingWild'', a film by WongKarWai: Creator/WongKarWai: The main character Yuddy/York (played by Creator/LeslieCheung) is a self-centered playboy who mistreats/manipulates women by making them fall for him and breaking their hearts. It is strongly hinted in the film that this is because his biological mother deserted him when he was younger and having a troubled emotionally distant relationship with his foster mother.
22nd Sep '17 7:16:34 AM Njein
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** [[JerkassWoobie Prince Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical kingdom run by his cruel and unfeeling father. The king raises all his sons to be strong and useful, so he regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his children to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of what their father would do. While his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seeming has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature controlled by [[WellDoneSonGuy a desire to prove himself to his father]], no matter what he has to do to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.

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** [[JerkassWoobie Prince Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical kingdom dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. The king He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, so he but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his children sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of what facing their father would do. While father's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seeming seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature controlled by changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], no matter regardless of what he has to do did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
4th Sep '17 9:16:38 AM kataangluvr
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* Noah from ''Film/TheBoyNextDoor''. His father had an affair with another woman and didn't seem to be sorry for betraying his wife. Because of the affair, his mother became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Noah came to hate his father enough to kill him and his mistress by sabotaging the brakes on their car.

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* Noah from ''Film/TheBoyNextDoor''. His [[spoiler:His father had an affair with another woman and didn't seem to be sorry for betraying his wife. Because of the affair, his mother became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Noah came to hate his father enough to kill him and his mistress by sabotaging the brakes on their car.]]
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