History FreudianExcuse / Film

1st Oct '17 1:26:02 PM nombretomado
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* In ''Film/DaysOfBeingWild'', a film by WongKarWai: The main character Yuddy/York (played by Creator/LeslieCheung) is a self-centered playboy who mistreats/manipulates women by making them fall for him and breaking their hearts. It is strongly hinted in the film that this is because his biological mother deserted him when he was younger and having a troubled emotionally distant relationship with his foster mother.

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* In ''Film/DaysOfBeingWild'', a film by WongKarWai: Creator/WongKarWai: The main character Yuddy/York (played by Creator/LeslieCheung) is a self-centered playboy who mistreats/manipulates women by making them fall for him and breaking their hearts. It is strongly hinted in the film that this is because his biological mother deserted him when he was younger and having a troubled emotionally distant relationship with his foster mother.
22nd Sep '17 7:16:34 AM Njein
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** [[JerkassWoobie Prince Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical kingdom run by his cruel and unfeeling father. The king raises all his sons to be strong and useful, so he regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his children to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of what their father would do. While his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seeming has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature controlled by [[WellDoneSonGuy a desire to prove himself to his father]], no matter what he has to do to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.

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** [[JerkassWoobie Prince Prince]] [[TragicVillain Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical kingdom dictatorship run by his cruel and unfeeling father. The king He raises all his sons to be strong and useful, so he but regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his children sons to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of what facing their father would do. While father's wrath. And while his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seeming seemingly has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature controlled by changed into [[WellDoneSonGuy a stubborn desire to prove himself to his father]], no matter regardless of what he has to do did to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
4th Sep '17 9:16:38 AM kataangluvr
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* Noah from ''Film/TheBoyNextDoor''. His father had an affair with another woman and didn't seem to be sorry for betraying his wife. Because of the affair, his mother became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Noah came to hate his father enough to kill him and his mistress by sabotaging the brakes on their car.

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* Noah from ''Film/TheBoyNextDoor''. His [[spoiler:His father had an affair with another woman and didn't seem to be sorry for betraying his wife. Because of the affair, his mother became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Noah came to hate his father enough to kill him and his mistress by sabotaging the brakes on their car.]]
4th Sep '17 9:15:05 AM kataangluvr
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* Noah from ''Film/TheBoyNextDoor''. His father had an affair with another woman and didn't seem to be sorry for betraying his wife. Because of the affair, his mother became depressed and eventually committed suicide. Noah came to hate his father enough to kill him and his mistress by sabotaging the brakes on their car.
6th Aug '17 3:59:37 PM DuelMark
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* ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'':
** While not for villainy, Anna's [[FourthDateMarriage desperate urge to marry Hans]] stems from years of isolation due to being unaware of why Elsa started to shut her out since childhood and having no other friends to speak with.
** As a child, Elsa was a cheerful girl who happily embraced her powers and spend time with her little sister Anna. However, after Anna was hit in the head by her magic and needed her memories erased from the event, Elsa spent the rest of her life living in constant fear of what her powers can do, forcing her to act aloof to Anna.
** From little was seen from his childhood, Kristoff was largely ignored by the other ice harvesters and loving embraced by the trolls, causing him to have a sour opinion on people in general until he met Anna.
** [[JerkassWoobie Prince Hans]] claims to have had 3 of his 12 brothers ignore him for 2 years, but the novelization makes it worse. [[spoiler:The Southern Isles is a tyrannical kingdom run by his cruel and unfeeling father. The king raises all his sons to be strong and useful, so he regards his youngest son to be a weakling and allows all of his children to bully and harass him all his life. Only one brother showed him kindness but had little impact, likely out of fear of what their father would do. While his mother does love him, she's too weak and afraid of her husband to really do anything but acknowledge him. As a result, Hans seeming has clinical depression stemming from cruelty and his once good nature controlled by [[WellDoneSonGuy a desire to prove himself to his father]], no matter what he has to do to Anna and Elsa.]] And this is a character from a ''Disney'' property.
21st Jul '17 12:33:57 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/KnightMoves'' is a bit of a weird example in that it doesn't seem to come to a decision how it wants to play this. Apparently, the SerialKiller's descent into darkness is supposed to be witnessing [[DrivenToSuicide his mother's violent suicide]] following his father's departure when he was just a boy. The problem is that the kid actor they got emoted so little in this scene that [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior he just seems bored and/or fascinated by it]]. He doesn't bring it up again until the climax as part of his MotiveRant for wanting revenge on the hero (who was ''very'' inadvertently responsible for the killer's parents both leaving him), who chews him out about it and shouts out that [[ShutUpHannibal it doesn't excuse his horrible crimes]], including attempting to kill the hero's young daughter. Then the female lead, who's also a psychiatrist-in-training, walks in and having recognized him as one of her boss's patients, tries to talk him out of it while [[SympathyForTheDevil sympathizing with the killer]] for his past (she fails and he gets shot to death by aforementioned hero), so supposedly we're meant to see him as a tragic villain after all?

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* ''Film/KnightMoves'' is a bit of a weird example in that it doesn't seem to come to a decision how it wants to play this. Apparently, the SerialKiller's descent into darkness is supposed to be witnessing [[DrivenToSuicide his mother's violent suicide]] following his father's departure when he was just a boy. The problem is that the kid actor they got emoted so little in this scene that [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior he just seems bored and/or fascinated by it]]. it]], giving the impression that he was already an EnfantTerrible. He doesn't bring it up again until the climax as part of his MotiveRant for wanting revenge on the hero (who was ''very'' inadvertently responsible for the killer's parents both leaving him), who chews him out about it and shouts out that him). However, the hero [[ShutUpHannibal chews the killer out about his excuse]] and points out that it doesn't excuse justify his horrible crimes]], crimes, including attempting to kill the hero's young daughter. Then the female lead, who's also a psychiatrist-in-training, walks in and having recognized him the killer as one of her boss's patients, tries to talk him out of it while [[SympathyForTheDevil sympathizing with the killer]] him]] for his past (she fails and he gets shot to death by aforementioned hero), so supposedly we're meant to see him as a tragic villain after all?
21st Jul '17 12:28:52 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/KnightMoves'' is a bit of a weird example in that it doesn't seem to come to a decision how it wants to play this. Apparently, the SerialKiller's descent into darkness is supposed to be witnessing [[DrivenToSuicide his mother's violent suicide]] following his father's departure when he was just a boy. The problem is that the kid actor they got emoted so little in this scene that [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior he just seems bored and or fascinated by it]]. He doesn't bring it up again until the climax as part of his MotiveRant for wanting revenge on the hero (who was ''very'' inadvertently responsible for the killer's parents both leaving him), who chews him out about it and shouts out that [[ShutUpHannibal it doesn't excuse his horrible crimes]], including attempting to kill the hero's young daughter. Then the female lead, who's also a psychiatrist-in-training, walks in and having recognized him as one of her boss's patients, tries to talk him out of it while [[SympathyForTheDevil sympathizing with the killer]] for his past (she fails and he gets shot to death by aforementioned hero), so supposedly we're meant to see him as a tragic villain after all?

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* ''Film/KnightMoves'' is a bit of a weird example in that it doesn't seem to come to a decision how it wants to play this. Apparently, the SerialKiller's descent into darkness is supposed to be witnessing [[DrivenToSuicide his mother's violent suicide]] following his father's departure when he was just a boy. The problem is that the kid actor they got emoted so little in this scene that [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior he just seems bored and or and/or fascinated by it]]. He doesn't bring it up again until the climax as part of his MotiveRant for wanting revenge on the hero (who was ''very'' inadvertently responsible for the killer's parents both leaving him), who chews him out about it and shouts out that [[ShutUpHannibal it doesn't excuse his horrible crimes]], including attempting to kill the hero's young daughter. Then the female lead, who's also a psychiatrist-in-training, walks in and having recognized him as one of her boss's patients, tries to talk him out of it while [[SympathyForTheDevil sympathizing with the killer]] for his past (she fails and he gets shot to death by aforementioned hero), so supposedly we're meant to see him as a tragic villain after all?
21st Jul '17 10:36:06 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/{{Replicant}}'': When Edward Garrote was a child, his mother murdered his father, then locked him a closet and set the house on fire-he survived because it started to rain. Since then he murders women that he perceives as "bad mothers" and frequently taunts his now immobile elderly mother about it.

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* ''Film/{{Replicant}}'': When Edward Garrote was a child, his mother murdered his father, then locked him in a closet and set the house on fire-he fire--he survived because it started to rain. Since then he murders women that he perceives as "bad mothers" and frequently taunts his now immobile elderly mother about it.
8th Jul '17 9:59:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* As revealed in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', the whole worldview of Comicbook/LexLuthor in the ''DCExtendedUniverse'' is due to his upbringing. Lex's father, Alexander Luthor Snr., was an [[AbusiveParents abusive jerk]], who [[VillainWithGoodPublicity hid behind the facade]] of a good family man. Luthor Senior used his son as a business ploy (claiming he named his company after Lex and encouraging investors to "write checks for Lex") while behind closed doors he beat (and possibly did worse to) Lex. Unsuprisingly, this upbringing did a number on Lex's psyche, which only gets worse when Comicbook/{{Superman}} appears, as Lex hates Superman, partly becase Superman challenges Lex's beliefs that anyone with power cannot truly be selfless and innocent, and partly due to anger that there was no-one to save ''him'' when he was a child.

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* As revealed in ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', the whole worldview of Comicbook/LexLuthor in the ''DCExtendedUniverse'' is due to his upbringing. Lex's father, Alexander Luthor Snr., was an [[AbusiveParents abusive jerk]], who [[VillainWithGoodPublicity hid behind the facade]] of a good family man. Luthor Senior used his son as a business ploy (claiming he named his company after Lex and encouraging investors to "write checks for Lex") while behind closed doors he beat (and possibly did worse to) Lex. Unsuprisingly, this upbringing did a number on Lex's psyche, which only gets worse when Comicbook/{{Superman}} appears, as Lex hates Superman, partly becase because Superman challenges Lex's beliefs that anyone with power cannot truly be selfless and innocent, and partly due to anger that there was no-one to save ''him'' when he was a child.
8th Jul '17 9:55:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/KnightMoves'' is a bit of a weird example in that it doesn't seem to come to a decision how it wants to play this. Apparently, the SerialKiller's descent into darkness is supposed to be witnessing [[DrivenToSuicide his mother's violent suicide]] following his father's departure when he was just a boy. The problem is that the kid actor they got emoted so little in this scene that [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior he just seems bored and or fascinated by it]]. He doesn't bring it up again until the climax as part of his MotiveRant for wanting revenge on the hero (who was ''very'' inadvertently responsible for the killer's parents both leaving him), who chews him out about it and shouts out that [[ShutUpHannibal it doesn't excuse his horrible crimes]], including attempting to kill the hero's young daughter. Then the female lead, who's also a psychiatrist-in-training, walks in and having recognized him as one of her boss's patients, tries to talk him out of it while [[SympathyForTheDevil sympathizing with the killer]] for his past (she fails and he gets shot to death by aforementioned hero), so supposedly we're meant to see him as a tragic villain after all?
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