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** On the flipside, there's the issue of the Ghostfaces having plot-armor. Characters making stupid decisions dates back to the opening scene of the first movie, where Casey keeps talking to Ghostface on the phone instead of hanging up and calling the police. However, this was part of the film's reconstruction of certain slasher tropes by showing that such situations were inherently unpredictable. Sidney sarcastically says that victims in horror movies are idiots for running upstairs and not outside when chased, only to do the exact same thing right afterwards when she can't unlock the front door fast enough. The climax showed the door swung both ways as well, when Sidney gets the upper hand on Billy and Stu by adopting their own tactics and getting the drop on them, and famously defying JokerImmunity by shooting Billy in the head when he gets a second wind. The next few films also had the characters make some dumb decisions that allowed Ghostface to live until the climax, but also [[SerialEscalation upped the ante]] of what Ghostface was shown as capable of, [[note]] Ghostface kills two armed police officers in the second film, and gains the ability to mimic voices in the third[[/note]] keeping them threatening. Also, in the first three films, the victims were usually civilians with no survival experience whom Ghostface would attack one or two at a time [[note]] Roman fighting off a group who try to gang up on him was another sign of serial escalation[[/note]] and the second film [[KilledOffForReal kills off Randy]] to show that being GenreSavvy alone could not save you. The protagonists adapted as well, as shown when Sidney defeats Roman by being CrazyPrepared. From the fourth film onwards, however, these trends of escalation largely stopped, making obvious how Ghostface was so succesful because his victims constantly failed to keep their guard up, carry weapons, fight back, or finish the killer upon gaining the upper hand despite the cast including an increasing number of supposedly smart and experienced characters with (who would be attacked in large groups). Even the excuse of [[RuleOfDrama the killers needing to live until the climax]] lost its credibility with time, since by the fourth or fifth films, there being two killers instead of one was no longer a twist. The sixth film, had a grand total of ''five'' killers, one of which certainly could have been captured or killed before the ending. By the time of the fifth film as well, online discourse about how to survive horror movies had also evolved from speaking about general tropes in the way characters like Randy popularized, to strategic analysis and scene-by-scene breakdowns, making the films' supposed horror experts seem outdated by constantly discussing what kind of movie they were in instead of actual ways to defend themselves.

* On a more minor note, while ''Film/Scream2022'' was well-received, the casting of one of the killers drew criticism. Some viewers found it [[WTHCastingAgency hard to buy]] the petite, 5'3" Creator/MikeyMadison as Ghostface scoring one of the most brutal kills in the entire franchise, stabbing the much larger Dewey in the front and back simultaneously. ''Film/Scream4'' had it even worse on paper, casting the even more petite, 5'2" Creator/EmmaRoberts as Ghostface. However, it wasn't an issue there, because that film put Roberts in [[ScullyBox seven-inch platform boots]] to make her character look less slight-of-frame compared to the rest of the cast, and never had the actor's Ghostface carry out such a physically demanding kill.

* ''Film/Scream3'' is often regarded as the nadir of the films, the point where the series' {{soaperizing}} got out of control and descended into a mess of {{Ass Pull}}s. In this, however, it was merely trying to do what the first two films, with their focus on characterization, hidden motivations, and {{Red Herring}}s as part of a [[MysteryFiction whodunit mystery]], had pulled off ''far'' more successfully.

* ''Film/Scream3'' is often regarded as the nadir of the films, the point where the series' {{soaperizing}} got out of control and descended into a mess of {{Ass Pull}}s. In this, however, it was merely trying to do what the first two films, with their focus on characterization, hidden motivations, and {{Red Herring}}s as part of a [[MysteryFiction whodunit mystery]], had pulled off far more successfully.

** On the flipside, there's the issue of the Ghostfaces having plot-armor. Characters making stupid decisions dates back to the opening scene of the first movie, where Casey keeps talking to Ghostface on the phone instead of hanging up and calling the police. However, this was part of the film's reconstruction of certain slasher tropes by showing that such situations were inherently unpredictable. Sidney sarcastically says that victims in horror movies are idiots for running upstairs and not outside when chased, only to do the exact same thing right afterwards when she can't unlock the front door fast enough. The climax showed the door swung both ways as well, when Sidney gets the upper hand on Billy and Stu by adopting their own tactics and getting the drop on them, and famously defying JokerImmunity by shooting Billy in the head when he gets a second wind. The next few films also had the characters make some dumb decisions that allowed Ghostface to live until the climax, but also [[SerialEscalation upped the ante]] of what Ghostface was shown as capable of, [[note]] Ghostface kills two armed police officers in the second film, and gains the ability to mimic voices in the third[[/note]] keeping them threatening. Also, in the first three films, the victims were usually civilians with no survival experience whom Ghostface would attack one or two at a time [[note]] Roman fighting off a group who try to gang up on him was another sign of serial escalation[[/note]] and the second film [[KilledOffForReal kills off Randy]] to show that being GenreSavvy alone could not save you. The protagonists adapted as well, as shown when Sidney defeats Roman by being CrazyPrepared. From the fourth film onwards, however, these trends of escalation largely stopped, making obvious how Ghostface was so succesful because his victims constantly failed to keep their guard up, carry weapons, fight back, or finish the killer upon gaining the upper hand despite the cast including an increasing number of supposedly smart and experienced characters with (who would be attacked in large groups). Even the excuse of [[RuleOfDrama the killers needing to live until the climax]] lost it's credibility with time, since by the fourth or fifth films, there being two killers instead of one was no longer a twist. The sixth film, had a grand total of ''five'' killers, one of which certainly could have been captured or killed before the ending. By the time of the fifth film as well, online discourse about how to survive horror movies had also evolved from speaking about general tropes in the way characters like Randy popularized, to strategic analysis and scene-by-scene breakdowns, making the films' supposed horror experts seem outdated by constantly discussing what kind of movie they were in instead of actual ways to defend themselves.

*** Similar to Nancy and Roman, the Baileys reveal that they were using fake names and [[ConnectedAllAlong have a secret familial connection to another important character]]; specifically, they're related to Richie Kirsch, the previous Ghostface from ''Scream 5''. The problem here is that somehow none of the protagonists familiar with Richie -- Sam (Richie's ex-girlfriend), Kirby (a FBI agent who did research on the previous Ghostfaces), and Gale (a crime reporter who recently wrote a book about Richie and Amber) -- recognize the Baileys as Richie's relatives, and this isn't getting into how Wayne got past the NYPD's background check to become a New York City cop. On the other hand, while Roman's relation to Sidney is a controversial retcon, it is explained he is a secret ChildByRape, so no one but his parents would know, and neither parent, Milton and Maureen, have any reason to spill the beans since Milton conducted the rape in the first place, whereas Maureen wanted to avoid thinking about her old life. Likewise, Nancy put more effort into disguising herself by not only using a pseudonym like the Baileys, but also by [[FormerlyFat losing weight]] and undergoing facial surgery, yet ''Scream 2'' plays this more realistically as Gale still recognizes Debbie (although barely) during their first meeting and Nancy herself avoids crossing paths with Sidney, who ''does'' see through the disguise upon Nancy's reveal.

** Likewise, most of the prior sequels to ''Scream VI'' did a better job of hiding the PlotArmor of the trio as they [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed off the other returning characters]] to raise the stakes and to tease at the idea that AnyoneCanDie.[[note]]''Scream 2'' had Randy, ''Scream 3'' had Cotton, and the 2022 film had Judy and Dewey.[[/note]] The only exception to this rule is ''Scream 4'', but that movie still [[DevelopingDoomedCharacters killed off important characters with plenty of screen time and development]], subverting the movie's ChangingOfTheGuard premise that advertised the next-gen characters as the new protagonists to replace Sidney, Gale, and Dewey. In comparison, the victims in ''Scream VI'' are mostly [[RedShirt no-name extras]] and {{Bit Character}}s with little screen time and characterization, making it more obvious that they are just there to pad the body count. More importantly, ''Scream 4'' only had to keep three veteran characters alive whereas ''Scream VI'' let ''six'' returning characters survive.
** On the flipside, there's the issue of the Ghostfaces having plot-armor. Characters making stupid decisions dates back to the opening scene of the first movie, where Casey keeps talking to Ghostface on the phone instead of hanging up and calling the police. However, this was part of the film's reconstruction of certain slasher tropes by showing that such situations were inherently unpredictable. Sidney sarcastically says that victims in horror movies are idiots for running upstairs and not outside when chased, only to do the exact same thing right afterwards when she can't unlock the front door fast enough. The climax showed the door swung both ways as well, when Sidney gets the upper hand on Billy and Stu by adopting their own tactics and getting the drop on them, and famously defying JokerImmunity by shooting Billy in the head when he gets a second wind. The next few films also had the characters make some dumb decisions that allowed Ghostface to live until the climax, but also [[SerialEscalation upped the ante]] of what Ghostface was shown as capable of, [[note]] Ghostface kills two armed police officers in the second film, and gains the ability to mimic voices in the third[[/note]] keeping them threatening. Also, in the first three films, the victims were usually civilians with no survival experience whom Ghostface would attack one or two at a time [[note]] Roman fighting off a group who try to gang up on him was another sign of serial escalation[[/note]] and the second film [[KilledOffForReal kills of Randy]] to show that being GenreSavvy alone could not save you. The protagonists adapted as well, as shown when Sidney defeats Roman by being CrazyPrepared. From the fourth film onwards, however, these trends of escalation largely stopped, making obvious how Ghostface was so succesful because his victims constantly failed to keep their guard up, carry weapons, fight back, or finish the killer upon gaining the upper hand despite the cast including an increasing number of supposedly smart and experienced characters with (who would be attacked in large groups). Even the excuse of [[RuleOfDrama the killers needing to live until the climax]] lost it's credibility with time, since by the fourth or fifth films, there being two killers instead of one was no longer a twist. The sixth film, had a grand total of ''five'' killers, one of which certainly could have been captured or killed before the ending. By the time of the fifth film as well, online discourse about how to survive horror movies had also evolved from speaking about general tropes in the way characters like Randy popularized, to strategic analysis and scene-by-scene breakdowns, making the films' supposed horror experts seem outdated by constantly discussing what kind of movie they were in instead of actual ways to defend themselves.

*** As mentioned before, most viewers criticized the killer's secret familial connection to Sidney, a criticism that also applied to ''Scream 2'', where the killer had a secret familial connection to the first film's killer and was operating under a disguise. Nevertheless, the reveal in that film was more acceptable for several reasons. For one, Nancy Loomis was a [[TheGhost mentioned albeit unseen character]] in the first film, whereas the killer's relationship with Sidney in the third film was [[RememberTheNewGuy a retcon]]. Furthermore, the second film hinted multiple times that Billy's mother was one of the killers, meaning that savvy viewers would be on the lookout for a middle-aged woman, a description under which "Debbie Salt" fell, not to mention that Gale did recognize Debbie Salt as a familiar face upon first glance. While the third film hinted similarly that Sidney's half-sibling was the killer, said description was unhelpful in identifying them, as [[AssPull no clues were given]] as to who was the half-sibling in question (including Roman, the one who would be revealed as such), leading to viewers getting an identical reaction to being cheated by the reveal.

*** Similar to Nancy and Roman, the Baileys reveal that they were using fake names and [[ConnectedAllAlong have a secret familial connection to another important character]]; specifically, they're related to Richie Kirsch, the previous Ghostface from ''Scream 5''. The problem here is that somehow none of the protagonists familiar with Richie -- Sam (Richie's ex-girlfriend), Kirby (a FBI agent who did research on the previous Ghostfaces), and Gale (a crime reporter who recently wrote a book about Richie and Amber) -- recognize the Baileys as Richie's relatives, and this isn't getting into how Wayne got past the NYPD's background check to become a New York City cop. On the other hand, while Roman's relation to Sidney is a controversial retcon, it is explained he is a secret ChildByRape, so no one but his parents would know, and neither parent, Milton and Maureen, have any reason to spill the beans since Milton conducted the rape in the first place, whereas Maureen wanted to avoid thinking about her old life. Likewise, Nancy put more effort into disguising herself by not only using a pseudonym like the Baileys, but also by [[FormerlyFat losing weight]] and undergoing facial surgery, yet ''Scream 2'' plays this more realistically as Gale still recognizes her (although barely) and Nancy herself avoids crossing paths with Sidney, who ''does'' see through the disguise upon Nancy's reveal.
* On a more minor note, while ''Film/Scream2022'' was well-received, the casting of one of the killers drew criticism. Some viewers found it [[WTHCastingAgency hard to buy]] the petite, 5'3" Creator/MikeyMadison as Ghostface scoring one of the most brutal kills in the entire franchise, stabbing the much larger Dewey in the front and back simultaneously. ''Scream 4'' had it even worse on paper, casting the even more petite, 5'2" Creator/EmmaRoberts as Ghostface. However, it wasn't an issue there, because that film put Roberts in [[ScullyBox seven-inch platform boots]] to make her character look less slight-of-frame compared to the rest of the cast, and never had the actor's Ghostface carry out such a physically demanding kill.

** Likewise, most of the prior sequels to ''Scream VI'' did a better job of hiding the PlotArmor of the trio as they [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed off the other returning characters]] to raise the stakes and to tease at the idea that AnyoneCanDie.[[note]]''Scream 2'' had Randy, ''Scream 3'' had Cotton, and the 2022 film had Judy and Dewey.[[/note]] The only exception to this rule is ''Scream 4'', but even then, it only had to keep three veteran characters alive whereas ''Scream VI'' let ''six'' returning characters survive.

** As for [[Series/ScreamTVSeries the TV adaptation]], that show returning to the well of relying on the FinalGirl's family backstory likewise became one of its most highly criticized aspects. While the Brandon James storyline in Season 1 lacked the slut-shaming undertones of the Maureen Prescott storyline from the films, it was still seen as a retread of many of the most unpopular plot elements of ''Scream 3'', this time without even a decent performance from the actor playing the killer. This may be why, despite Season 2 [[CutShort ending on a cliffhanger]], the third season, titled ''Series/ScreamResurrection'', was a full ContinuityReboot with a new cast and show runners.

** As for [[Series/ScreamTVSeries the TV adaptation]], that show returning to the well of relying on the FinalGirl's family backstory likewise became one of its most highly criticized aspects. While the Brandon James storyline in Season 1 lacked the slut-shaming undertones of the Maureen Prescott storyline from the films, it was still seen as a retread of many of the most unpopular plot elements of ''Scream 3'', this time without even a decent performance from the actor playing the killer. This may be why, despite Season 2 [[CutShort ending on a cliffhanger]], Season 3, titled ''Series/ScreamResurrection'', was a full ContinuityReboot with a new cast and show runners.

* Characters having PlotArmor and requiring [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill extreme injuries to go down for good]] goes back to the very first movie, where Creator/WesCraven threw in a scene at the end revealing that Dewey survived due to positive fan reception to his character. In that film, Dewey was stabbed only once in the back, an injury that it's more than plausible for an ordinary person to survive, and in a movie built around a DeconstructiveParody of SlasherMovie tropes, showing him at the end getting wheeled out on a stretcher was a fun subversion of the countless slasher victims who have died from similarly simple injuries and a reminder that it's harder than it looks to kill somebody with a knife. What's more, the next film reveals that he was left partly debilitated by the attack. Later films, however, wound swing to the opposite extreme to the point of outright NoOneCouldSurviveThat moments, seemingly out of a fear of not being able to bring characters back for the sequels. It reached its nadir when [[Film/ScreamVI the sixth film]] showed Chad getting stabbed in the chest over a dozen times, an attack that would leave him DeaderThanDead not just in any other slasher but probably in real life as well, and ''still'' getting the Dewey treatment at the end.

** As for [[Series/ScreamTVSeries the TV adaptation]], that show returning to the well of relying on the FinalGirl's family backstory likewise became one of its most highly criticized aspects. While the Brandon James storyline in season 1 lacked the slut-shaming undertones of the Maureen Prescott storyline from the films, it was still seen as a retread of many of the most unpopular plot elements of ''Scream 3'', this time without even a decent performance from the actor playing the killer. This may be why, despite season 2 [[CutShort ending on a cliffhanger]], season 3, titled ''Series/ScreamResurrection'', was a full ContinuityReboot with a new cast and show runners.
** The Ghostface unmaskings of ''Film/ScreamVI'' also have the same faults as those in ''Scream 3'' albeit to a larger degree.
*** Like Billy and Roman, the Baileys do the [[FakingTheDead fake death tactic]] to allow Quinn Bailey to act as Ghostface without arousing further suspicion. In the case of the fake death, while Roman's infamous blood pulse ruse is an AssPull with no foreshadowing or explanation in the film itself, it is [[RealityIsUnrealistic a real life magic trick]] as noted by Wes Craven on the audio commentary track, so it was realistic that news reporter Gale would be fooled. On the other hand, Wayne Bailey faked his daughter's death by substituting her body with a corpse, which led to multiple viewers finding it implausible that the other cops and FBI agent Kirby didn't test "Quinn's corpse" for proper identification and see through the deception.
*** Similar to Nancy and Roman, the Baileys reveal that they are using fake names and [[ConnectedAllAlong have a secret familial connection to another important character]]; more specifically, they are related to Richie Kirsch, the previous Ghostface from ''Scream 5''. The problem here is that somehow none of the protagonists familiar with Richie -- Sam (Richie's ex-girlfriend), Kirby (FBI agent who did research on the previous Ghostfaces), and Gale (true crime reporter who recently wrote a book about Richie and Amber) -- recognize the Baileys as Richie's relatives, and this isn't getting into how Wayne got past the NYPD's background check to become a New York cop. On the other hand, while Roman's relation to Sidney is a controversial retcon, it is explained he is a secret ChildByRape, so no one but his parents would know, and neither parent, Milton and Maureen, have any reason to spill the beans since Milton conducted the rape in the first place whereas Maureen wanted to avoid thinking about her old life. Likewise, Nancy put more effort into disguising herself by not only using a pseudonym like the Baileys but also by [[FormerlyFat losing weight]] and undergoing facial surgery, yet ''Scream 2'' plays this more realistically as Gale still recognizes her although barely and Nancy herself avoids crossing paths with Sidney, who ''does'' see through the disguise during Nancy's reveal.

*** A criticism of the third film's killer was how he [[SuspectExistenceFailure faked his own death]] to avoid suspicion by the protagonists and the audience. Not only does this criticism apply to the first film as well, said film was praised for using this twist. The difference was that the first film had the subsequent revelation that there were [[BigBadEnsemble two killers]], which answered the question of how the killer managed to pull that trick off. In addition, none of the protagonists ever checked Billy's "dead" body in the first film, unlike the third film, in which Gale checked Roman's "corpse" and confirmed that the body was in fact dead.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the killer used a special technique to stop his pulse, but this was [[HandWave never foreshadowed or stated]] in the third film.[[/note]] Thus, when the third film revealed that Roman wasn't actually dead and was the sole Ghostface, many viewers felt cheated.
*** As mentioned before, most viewers criticized the killer's secret familial connection to Sidney, a criticism that also applied to ''Scream 2'', where the killer had a secret familial connection to the first film's killer and was operating under a disguise. Nevertheless, the reveal was more acceptable for several reasons. For one, Nancy Loomis was a [[TheGhost mentioned albeit unseen character]] in the first film, whereas the killer's relationship with Sidney in the third film was [[RememberTheNewGuy a retcon]]. Furthermore, the second film hinted multiple times that Billy Loomis's mother was one of the killers, meaning that savvy viewers would be on the lookout for a middle-aged woman, a description under which "Debbie Salt" fell, not to mention that Gale did recognize Debbie Salt as a familiar face upon first glance. While the third film hinted similarly that Sidney's half-sibling was the killer, said description was unhelpful in identifying the killer, as [[AssPull no clues were given]] that Roman was the half-sibling in question, leading to viewers feeling cheated by the reveal.

*** A criticism of the third film's lead killer was how he [[SuspectExistenceFailure faked his own death]]]] to avoid suspicion by the protagonists and the audience. Not only does this criticism apply to the first film as well, said film was praised for using this twist. The difference was that the first film had the subsequent revelation that there were [[BigBadEnsemble two killers]], which answered the question of how the killer managed to pull that trick off. In addition, none of the protagonists ever checked Billy's "dead" body in the first film, unlike the third film, in which Gale checked Roman's "corpse" and confirmed that the body was in fact dead.[[note]]WordOfGod is that the killer used a special technique to stop his pulse, but this was [[HandWave never foreshadowed or stated]] in the third film.[[/note]] Thus, when the third film revealed that Roman wasn't actually dead and was the sole Ghostface, many viewers felt cheated.

*** As mentioned before, most viewers criticized the killer's secret familial connection to Sidney, a criticism that also applied to ''Scream 2'', where the killer had a secret familial connection to the first film's killer and was operating under a disguise. Nevertheless, the reveal was more acceptable for several reasons. For one, [[spoiler:Nancy Loomis]] was a [[TheGhost mentioned albeit unseen character]] in the first film, whereas the killer's relationship with Sidney in the third film was [[RememberTheNewGuy a retcon]]. Furthermore, the second film hinted multiple times that [[spoiler:Billy Loomis's mother]] was one of the killers, meaning that savvy viewers would be on the lookout for [[spoiler:a middle-aged woman, a description under which "Debbie Salt" fell]], not to mention that Gale did recognize [[spoiler:Debbie Salt]] as a familiar face upon first glance. While the third film hinted similarly that [[spoiler:Sidney's half-sibling]] was the killer, said description was unhelpful in identifying the killer, and the film [[AssPull never gave clues]] that [[spoiler:Roman was the half-sibling in question]], which then led to viewers feeling cheated by the reveal.

*** Like Billy and Roman, the Baileys do the [[FakingTheDead fake death tactic]] to allow Quinn Bailey to act as Ghostface without arousing further suspicion. In the case of the fake death, while Roman's infamous blood pulse ruse is an AssPull with no foreshadowing or explanation in the film itself, it is [[RealityIsUnrealistic a real life magic trick]] as noted by Wes Craven on the audio commentary track, so it was realistic that news reporter Gale would be fooled. On the other hand, Wayne Bailey faked his daughter's death by substituting her body with a corpse, which led to multiple viewers finding it implausible that the other cops and FBI agent Kirby didn't test "Quinn's corpse" for proper identification and see through the deception.]
*** Similar to Nancy and Roman, the Baileys reveal that they are using fake names and [[ConnectedAllAlong have a secret familial connection to another important character]]; more specifically, they are related to Richie Kirsch, the previous Ghostface from ''Scream 5''. The problem here is that somehow none of the protagonists familiar with Richie -- Sam (Richie's ex-girlfriend), Kirby (FBI agent who did research on the previous Ghostfaces), and Gale (true crime reporter who recently wrote a book about Richie and Amber) -- recognize the Baileys as Richie's relatives, and this isn't getting into how Wayne got past the NYPD's background check to become a New York cop. On the other hand, while Roman's relation to Sidney is a controversial retcon, it is explained he is a secret ChildByRape, so no one but his parents would know, and neither parent, Milton and Maureen, have any reason to spill the beans since Milton conducted the rape in the first place whereas Maureen wanted to avoid thinking about her old life. Likewise, Nancy put more effort into disguising herself by not only using a pseudonym like the Baileys but also by [[FormerlyFat losing weight]] and undergoing facial surgery, yet ''Scream 2'' plays this more realistically as Gale still recognizes her although barely and Nancy herself avoids crossing paths with Sidney, who ''does'' see through the disguise during Nancy's reveal.]

*** A criticism of the third film's lead killer was how [[spoiler:he [[SuspectExistenceFailure faked his own death]]]] to avoid suspicion by the protagonists and the audience. Not only does this criticism apply to the first film as well, said film was praised for using this twist. The difference was that the first film had the subsequent revelation that [[spoiler:there were [[BigBadEnsemble two killers]]]], which answered the question of how the killer managed to pull that trick off. In addition, none of the protagonists ever checked [[spoiler:Billy's "dead" body]] in the first film, unlike the third film, in which Gale checked [[spoiler:Roman's "corpse" and confirmed that the body was in fact dead]].[[note]]WordOfGod is that the killer used a special technique to stop his pulse, but this was [[HandWave never foreshadowed or stated]] in the third film.[[/note]] Thus, when the third film revealed that [[spoiler:Roman wasn't actually dead and was the sole Ghostface]], many viewers felt cheated.

*** [[spoiler:Like Billy and Roman, the Baileys do the [[FakingTheDead fake death tactic]] to allow Quinn Bailey to act as Ghostface without arousing further suspicion. In the case of the fake death, while Roman's infamous blood pulse ruse is an AssPull with no foreshadowing or explanation in the film itself, it is [[RealityIsUnrealistic a real life magic trick]] as noted by Wes Craven on the audio commentary track, so it was realistic that news reporter Gale would be fooled. On the other hand, Wayne Bailey faked his daughter's death by substituting her body with a corpse, which led to multiple viewers finding it implausible that the other cops and FBI agent Kirby didn't test "Quinn's corpse" for proper identification and see through the deception.]]
*** [[spoiler:Similar to Nancy and Roman, the Baileys reveal that they are using fake names and [[ConnectedAllAlong have a secret familial connection to another important character]]; more specifically, they are related to Richie Kirsch, the previous Ghostface from ''Scream 5''. The problem here is that somehow none of the protagonists familiar with Richie -- Sam (Richie's ex-girlfriend), Kirby (FBI agent who did research on the previous Ghostfaces), and Gale (true crime reporter who recently wrote a book about Richie and Amber) -- recognize the Baileys as Richie's relatives, and this isn't getting into how Wayne got past the NYPD's background check to become a New York cop. On the other hand, while Roman's relation to Sidney is a controversial retcon, it is explained he is a secret ChildByRape, so no one but his parents would know, and neither parent, Milton and Maureen, have any reason to spill the beans since Milton conducted the rape in the first place whereas Maureen wanted to avoid thinking about her old life. Likewise, Nancy put more effort into disguising herself by not only using a pseudonym like the Baileys but also by [[FormerlyFat losing weight]] and undergoing facial surgery, yet ''Scream 2'' plays this more realistically as Gale still recognizes her although barely and Nancy herself avoids crossing paths with Sidney, who ''does'' see through the disguise during Nancy's reveal.]]
* On a more minor note, while ''Film/Scream2022'' was well-received, the casting of one of the killers drew criticism. Some viewers found it [[WTHCastingAgency hard to buy]] [[spoiler:the petite, 5'3" Creator/MikeyMadison]] as Ghostface scoring one of the most brutal kills in the entire franchise, stabbing the much larger [[spoiler:Dewey]] in the front and back simultaneously. ''Scream 4'' had it even worse on paper, casting [[spoiler:the even more petite, 5'2" Creator/EmmaRoberts]] as Ghostface. However, it wasn't an issue there, because that film [[spoiler:put Roberts in [[ScullyBox seven-inch platform boots]] to make her character look less slight-of-frame]] compared to the rest of the cast, and never had the actor's Ghostface carry out such a physically demanding kill.
* Another criticism of the 2022 film concerned the new FinalGirl Sam having visions of [[spoiler:her dead father, the first film's killer Billy Loomis]]. This was one of the most poorly-received elements of an otherwise well-received film, coming across to many fans as [[HowUnscientific a jarring introduction of supernatural elements]] into a series otherwise grounded in reality, as well as an excuse to [[spoiler:have a [[DigitalDeaging digitally de-aged]] Creator/SkeetUlrich reprise his role as Billy]] for nostalgia's sake. ''Scream 3'' did something similar with Sidney having visions of her dead mother Maureen, and while that film is generally regarded as the weakest in the series, Sidney's story is usually one of the few things about it that even its harshest critics will defend. The difference is that ''Scream 3'' made it very clear that Sidney's visions were either {{nightmare|Sequence}}s or hallucinations brought on by her repeated traumas or Ghostface screwing with her, and that she wasn't actually seeing her mother's ghost. The new voice changer that Ghostface gets in the third film, which lets him perfectly imitate other people's voices, is itself a point of contention for many fans, but the film still depicts it as a mundane, non-sci-fi explanation for why Sidney hears Maureen's voice over the phone. The 2022 film, meanwhile, takes the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane route, as [[spoiler:"Billy"]] outright converses with Sam on multiple occasions and during the finale seems to point her to a weapon she can use, implying that it's not merely a figment of her imagination brought on by her [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness mental instability]] but an outright SpiritAdvisor.
* Characters having PlotArmor and requiring [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill extreme injuries to go down for good]] goes back to the very first movie, where Creator/WesCraven threw in a scene at the end revealing that Dewey survived due to positive fan reception to his character. In that film, Dewey was stabbed only once in the back, an injury that it's more than plausible for an ordinary person to survive, and in a movie built around a DeconstructiveParody of SlasherMovie tropes, showing him at the end getting wheeled out on a stretcher was a fun subversion of the countless slasher victims who have died from similarly simple injuries and a reminder that it's harder than it looks to kill somebody with a knife. What's more, the next film reveals that he was left partly debilitated by the attack. Later films, however, wound swing to the opposite extreme to the point of outright NoOneCouldSurviveThat moments, seemingly out of a fear of not being able to bring characters back for the sequels. It reached its nadir when [[Film/ScreamVI the sixth film]] showed [[spoiler:Chad]] getting stabbed in the chest over a dozen times, an attack that would leave him DeaderThanDead not just in any other slasher but probably in real life as well, and ''still'' getting the Dewey treatment at the end.
** Likewise, most of the prior sequels to ''Scream VI'' did a better job of hiding the PlotArmor of the trio as they [[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed off the other returning characters]] to raise the stakes and to tease at the idea that AnyoneCanDie.[[note]]''Scream 2'' had Randy, ''Scream 3'' had Cotton, and ''Scream 5'' had Judy and Dewey.[[/note]] The only exception to this rule is ''Scream 4'', but even then, [[spoiler:''Scream 4'' only had to keep three veteran characters alive whereas ''Scream VI'' let ''six'' returning characters survive]].

** The Ghostface unmaskings of ''Scream VI'' also have the same faults as those in ''Scream 3'' albeit to a larger degree.

*** As mentioned before, most viewers criticized the killer's secret familial connection to Sidney, a criticism that also applied to ''Scream 2'', where the killer had a secret familial connection to the first film's killer and was operating under a disguise. Nevertheless, the reveal was more acceptable for several reasons. For one, [[spoiler:Mrs. Loomis]] was a [[TheGhost mentioned albeit unseen character]] in the first film, whereas the killer's relationship with Sidney in the third film was [[RememberTheNewGuy a retcon]]. Furthermore, the second film hinted multiple times that [[spoiler:Billy's mother]] was one of the killers, meaning that savvy viewers would be on the lookout for [[spoiler:a middle-aged woman, a description under which "Debbie Salt" fell]], not to mention that Gale did recognize [[spoiler:Debbie Salt]] as a familiar face upon first glance. While the third film hinted similarly that [[spoiler:Sidney's half-sibling]] was the killer, said description was unhelpful in identifying the killer, and the film [[AssPull never gave clues]] that [[spoiler:Roman was the half-sibling in question]], which then led to accusations upon the unmasking.

* Characters having PlotArmor and requiring [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill extreme injuries to go down for good]] goes back to the very first movie, where Creator/WesCraven threw in a scene at the end revealing that Dewey survived due to positive fan reception to his character. In that film, Dewey was stabbed only once in the back, an injury that it's more than plausible for an ordinary person to survive, and in a movie built around a DeconstructiveParody of SlasherMovie tropes, showing him at the end getting wheeled out on a stretcher was a fun subversion of the countless slasher victims who have died from simple stab wounds. What's more, the next film reveals that he was left partly debilitated by the attack. Later films, however, wound swing to the opposite extreme to the point of outright NoOneCouldSurviveThat moments, seemingly out of a fear of not being able to bring characters back for the sequels. It reached its nadir when [[Film/ScreamVI the sixth film]] showed [[spoiler:Chad]] getting stabbed in the chest over a dozen times, an attack that would leave him DeaderThanDead not just in any other slasher but probably in real life as well, and ''still'' getting the Dewey treatment at the end.

** Finally, there was the specific plot element of the murder of Maureen Prescott, Sidney's mother who had been killed a year prior to the events of the original film over her [[ReallyGetsAround promiscuous]] and adulterous ways. Even many fans regard this aspect of the backstory as carrying a strong tinge of SlutShaming, though it's generally agreed that the quality of TheReveal helped temper the UnfortunateImplications, particularly with how the lead killer was portrayed as a complete and utter psychopath who was just using Maureen as an excuse to kill people. The third film made Maureen the focus of most of the plot, and with that film's drop in quality, it was a lot harder to ignore, even with Sidney's immensely gratifying ShutUpHannibal moment during TheReveal.
** As for [[Series/ScreamTVSeries the TV adaptation]], that show returning to the well of relying on the FinalGirl's family backstory likewise became one of its most highly criticized aspects. While the Brandon James storyline in season 1 lacked the UnfortunateImplications of the Maureen Prescott storyline from the films, it was still seen as a retread of many of the most unpopular plot elements of ''Scream 3'', this time without even a decent performance from the actor playing the killer. This may be why, despite season 2 [[CutShort ending on a cliffhanger]], season 3, titled ''Series/ScreamResurrection'', was a full ContinuityReboot with a new cast and show runners.

* ''Film/Scream3'' is often regarded as the nadir of the films, the point where the series' {{soaperizing}} got out of control and descended into a mess of {{Ass Pull}}. In this, however, it was merely trying to do what the first two films, with their focus on characterization, hidden motivations, and {{Red Herring}}s as part of a [[MysteryFiction whodunit mystery]], had pulled off far more successfully.

* On a more minor note, while ''Film/Scream2022'' was well-received, the casting of one of the killers drew criticism. Some viewers found it [[WTHCastingAgency hard to buy]] [[spoiler:the petite, 5'3" Creator/MikeyMadison]] as Ghostface scoring one of the most brutal kills in the entire franchise, stabbing a grown adult in the front and back simultaneously and then partially lifting them by the knives. ''Scream 4'' had it even worse on paper, casting [[spoiler:the even more petite, 5'2" Creator/EmmaRoberts]] as Ghostface. However, it wasn't an issue there, because that film [[spoiler:put Roberts in [[ScullyBox seven-inch platform boots]] to make her character look less slight-of-frame]] compared to the rest of the cast, and never had the actor's Ghostface carry out such a physically demanding kill.

* ''Film/Scream3'' is often regarded as the nadir of the films, the point where the series' {{soaperizing}} got out of control and descended into a mess of {{Ass Pull}}s and {{Shocking Swerve}}s. In this, however, it was merely trying to do what the first two films, with their focus on characterization, hidden motivations, and {{Red Herring}}s as part of a [[MysteryFiction whodunit mystery]], had pulled off far more successfully.

* Another criticism of the 2022 film concerned the new FinalGirl Sam having visions of [[spoiler:her dead father, the first film's killer Billy Loomis]]. This was one of the most poorly-received elements of an otherwise well-received film, coming across to many fans as [[HowUnscientific a jarring introduction of supernatural elements]] into a series otherwise grounded in reality, as well as an excuse to [[spoiler:have a [[DigitalDeaging digitally de-aged]] Creator/SkeetUlrich reprise his role as Billy]] for nostalgia's sake. ''Scream 3'' did something similar with Sidney having visions of her dead mother Maureen, and while that film is generally regarded as the weakest in the series, Sidney's story is usually one of the few things about it that even its harshest critics will defend. The difference is that ''Scream 3'' made it very clear that Sidney's visions were either {{nightmare|Sequence}}s or hallucinations brought on by her repeated traumas. The 2022 film, meanwhile, takes the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane route, as [[spoiler:"Billy"]] outright converses with Sam on multiple occasions and during the finale seems to point her to a weapon she can use, implying that it's not merely a figment of her imagination brought on by her [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness mental instability]] but an outright SpiritAdvisor.

* Another criticism of the 2022 film concerned the new FinalGirl Sam having visions of [[spoiler:her dead father, the first film's killer Billy Loomis]]. This was one of the most poorly-received elements of an otherwise well-received film, coming across to many fans as [[HowUnscientific a jarring introduction of supernatural elements]] into a series otherwise grounded in reality, as well as an excuse to [[spoiler:have a digitally de-aged Creator/SkeetUlrich reprise his role as Billy]] for nostalgia's sake. ''Scream 3'' did something similar with Sidney having visions of her dead mother Maureen, and while that film is generally regarded as the weakest in the series, Sidney's story is usually one of the few things about it that even its harshest critics will defend. The difference is that ''Scream 3'' made it very clear that Sidney's visions were either {{nightmare|Sequence}}s or hallucinations brought on by her repeated traumas. The 2022 film, meanwhile, takes the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane route, as [[spoiler:"Billy"]] outright converses with Sam on multiple occasions and during the finale seems to point her to a weapon she can use, implying that it's not merely a figment of her imagination brought on by her [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness mental instability]] but an outright SpiritAdvisor.

* Another criticism of the 2022 film concerned the new FinalGirl Sam having visions of [[spoiler:her dead father, the first film's killer Billy Loomis]]. This was one of the most poorly-received elements of an otherwise well-received film, coming across to many fans as [[HowUnscientific a jarring introduction of supernatural elements]] into a series otherwise grounded in reality, as well as an excuse to [[spoiler:have a digitally de-aged Creator/SkeetUlrich reprise his role as Billy]] for nostalgia's sake. ''Scream 3'' did something similar with Sidney having visions of her dead mother Maureen, and while that film is generally regarded as the weakest in the series, Sidney's story is usually one of the few things about it that even its harshest critics will defend. The difference is that ''Scream 3'' made it very clear that Sidney's visions were either {{nightmare|Sequence}}s or hallucinations brought on by her repeated traumas. The 2022 film, meanwhile, takes the MaybeMagicMaybeMundane route, as [[spoiler:"Billy"]] outright converses with Sam on multiple occasions and during the finale seems to point her to a weapon she can use, implying that it's not merely a figment of her imagination but an outright SpiritAdvisor.

* In addition to its [[PostModernism post-modern parody]] of {{slasher movie}}s, the series was also known for having [[{{Soaperizing}} a surprisingly strong focus on characterization]] for the genre it was in. Everybody had their own backstories and motivations, all the better to create {{red herring}}s and make viewers question who the killer was. In [[Film/Scream3 the third film]], however, this turned against the series in a number of important ways, as it tried to replicate the {{Plot Twist}}s of its predecessors yet fell flat.
** The first problem was in how it tied everything back to [[FinalGirl the series' heroine Sidney]]. In the [[Film/Scream1996 first two]] [[Film/Scream2 films]], the lead killer out of the BigBadDuumvirate had some personal connection to Sidney, but writer Kevin Williamson made sure to tie it to information that had already been revealed or otherwise implied in the story. In the first film, it was so heavily hinted that one particular character was the killer that the fact that they ''weren't'' a RedHerring was [[TheUntwist a twist in its own right]], while in the second, the killer was never seen with anybody who might recognize them. Furthermore, the backstory was secondary to the whodunit mystery at the center of the film; the most important question in both films always concerned Ghostface's identity. The third film's plot, on the other hand, revolved entirely around Sidney's family backstory, and the killer's motivation hinged on familial relations that weren't even hinted at for that character before TheReveal. Many fans blame new writer Ehren Kruger, who had a very different understanding of the characters, for the third film's {{sequelitis}}, as well as a TroubledProduction that saw substantial rewrites, including a different killer.