History FranchiseOriginalSin / Anime

** One major complaint fans had about the final arc was that the Sternritter's had potential as antagonists, but only a small handful of them ended up being truly relevant, with many of them having barely any fights, or some dying anti-climatically. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7lH4bFc9Rs One video by a series fan]] discussed this by pointing out that this issue had existed with the Gotei 13 and the Arrancar's as well. The Gotei 13 had several characters who largely didn't contribute to the story and were just there, like Tetsuzaemon Iba, a character who never gets to do anything in the series and ends it as a Captain with no fanfare. The Arrancar's had similar issues, such as Luppi, who took over Grimmjow's spot as an Espada, got in one fight, and then was killed quickly by Grimmjow without much fanfare. What made some of the past examples less frustrating for some was that the previous factions had ranks in them, meaning fans could understand who was supposed to be important: The Captains and Espada. The Captains and Espada were given more important then their Lieutenants or Fraccions, making it easier to ignore forgotten characters like the previously mentioned two. By contrast, the Sternritter's are all a unified group, lacking a distinct hierarchy until the late introduction of the Schutzstaffel, meaning fans had the same view of them as they did the Captains and Espada, since by all accounts they seemed to be the same in terms of importance. When many Sternritter's were essentially fodders or had anticlimactic fights, it made the entire group look less interesting because most of them were relatively easy to kill and weren't given the same narrative weight, and what few were seemed random compared to the Captains and Espada.

** The original [=DiC=]/[=CWi=] English Dub of the 1990's is [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks often]] [[{{Macekre}} derided]] for its controversial changes and censorship to the show, altering character [[DubNameChange names]], [[AdaptationPersonalityChange personalities]] and even changing entire stories and episode plots from the Japanese original. Fans often forget the fact that the 90's anime ''itself'' made ''several'' changes to the characters and stories when it was adapted from the original Manga. So much to the point that a TruerToTheText adaptation was created years later in ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal''. What made the changes easier to accept in the original 90's anime's Japanese dub was the novelty of seeing Sailor Moon adapted to anime at all, and how said anime ultimately proved a major AudienceColoringAdaptation for the majority of the viewers who first got introduced to the franchise by watching it. And as a result, when the eventual English dub of the anime got released with drastic changes attached well after enough people had become decently familiar with the original Japanese dub version, complaints of TheyChangedItNowItSucks were inevitable.

** The elements that made the Creator/FourKidsEntertainment English dub so hated were mostly present in earlier, far more successful shows like ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' — {{Dub Induced Plotline Change}}s, baffling [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerization]], ViewersAreMorons, and so on. However, this was sort of okay then because ''Pokémon'' skewed towards a much younger audience, and 4Kids had demonstrated that they knew not to use this strategy all the time, as seen in ''Anime/ShamanKing'' or ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''. It was only when [[MoralGuardians complaints]] about those two shows led them to try to apply it to ''One Piece'' that the whole thing fell apart... and it didn't help that the translation technique used was falling out of favor at around the same time.[[note]]Adding to this is that [=4Kids=] was ''forced'' to do the dub by Creator/ToeiAnimation so they could retain the license to Anime/OjamajoDoremi, making the result an AshcanCopy.[[/note]]

** The elements that made the Creator/FourKidsEntertainment English dub so hated were mostly present in earlier, far more successful shows like ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' — {{Dub Induced Plotline Change}}s, baffling [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerization]], ViewersAreMorons, and so on. However, this was sort of okay then because ''Pokémon'' skewed towards a much younger audience, and 4Kids had demonstrated that they knew not to use this strategy all the time, as seen in ''Anime/ShamanKing'' or ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''. It was only when [[MoralGuardians complaints]] about those two shows led them to try to apply it to ''One Piece'' that the whole thing fell apart... and it didn't help that the translation technique used was falling out of favor at around the same time.[[note]]Adding to this is that [=4Kids=] was ''forced'' to do the dub by Creator/ToeiAnimation so they could retain the license to Anime/OjamojoDoremi, making the result an AshcanCopy.[[/note]]

** The elements that made the Creator/FourKidsEntertainment English dub so hated were mostly present in earlier, far more successful shows like ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries'' — {{Dub Induced Plotline Change}}s, baffling [[{{Bowdlerise}} Bowdlerization]], ViewersAreMorons, and so on. However, this was sort of okay then because ''Pokémon'' skewed towards a much younger audience, and 4Kids had demonstrated that they knew not to use this strategy all the time, as seen in ''Anime/ShamanKing'' or ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003''. It was only when [[MoralGuardians complaints]] about those two shows led them to try to apply it to ''One Piece'' that the whole thing fell apart... and it didn't help that the translation technique used was falling out of favor at around the same time[[note]]Adding to this is that [=4Kids=] was ''forced'' to do the dub so they could gain the license to another anime, making the result an AshcanCopy[[/note]].

** While the princesses post-timeskip (shirhoshi, Rebecca and Komurasaki) were criticized for being useless and being overly reliant on the Straw Hats and other protagonists, to the point of seemingly only existing to give the protagonists a reason to fight, it's worth noting that some of this applied to Vivi, who was weaker than the Straw Hats and unable to win any fights on her own. The difference, however, was that Vivi was able to uncover Mr. 0's identity as Sir Crocodile, which was key to unraveling Baroque Works' conspiracy, and was able to convince Koza to end the rebellion, with only Baroque Works' interference thwarting her efforts. When you compare how Shirahoshi kept the identity of her mother's killer secret (thus allowing Hody to get as far as he did), Rebecca was unable to accomplish anything by herself and Komurasaki almost becomes a non-entity in Wano Act 3, only gaining relevance near the tail end of it, you can see why the other princesses aren't as well received. It also helps that Vivi was a far more proactive and goal-oriented character than the later princesses. She was the one who came up with the plan to take down Crocodile in the first place and was consistently driving the plot throughout the Alabasta arc.

** The original [=DiC=]/[=CWi=] English Dub of the 1990's is [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks often]] [[{{Macekre}} derided]] for its controversial changes and censorship to the show, altering character [[DubNameChange names]], [[AdaptationPersonalityChange personalities]] and even changing entire stories and episode plots from the Japanese original. Fans often forget the fact that the 90's anime ''itself'' made ''several'' changes to the characters and stories when it was adapted from the original Manga. So much to the point that a TruerToTheText adaptation was created years later in ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal''.