History Franchise / TransformersGeneration1

2nd Apr '18 5:17:47 AM SpinAttaxx
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** The original 1984 characters had a lot of "superpowers" that were inherent to them and not the property of a weapon they had -- Frenzy [[MakeMeWannaShout had devastating sonic powers]], Skywarp could [[VillainousTeleportation teleport]], Windcharger had MagnetismManipulation, etc. As the line (and overall franchise) continued, these became rarer among characters.

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** The original 1984 characters had a lot of "superpowers" that were inherent to them and not the property of a weapon they had -- Frenzy [[MakeMeWannaShout had devastating sonic powers]], Skywarp could [[VillainousTeleportation [[VillainTeleportation teleport]], Windcharger had MagnetismManipulation, etc. As the line (and overall franchise) continued, these became rarer among characters.
2nd Apr '18 5:16:56 AM SpinAttaxx
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: In the Three Episode Pilot ''More Than Meets the Eye'' the Autobots were consistently shown to be capable of independent flight ''without'' the use of jetpacks, something that would '''never''' happen again. Skyfire and the Aerialbots come into the story ''much'' later on, but they are shown to only be capable of flight in their vehicle mode (even when the location of their jets would logically make it possible in robot mode).

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
** The original 1984 characters had a lot of "superpowers" that were inherent to them and not the property of a weapon they had -- Frenzy [[MakeMeWannaShout had devastating sonic powers]], Skywarp could [[VillainousTeleportation teleport]], Windcharger had MagnetismManipulation, etc. As the line (and overall franchise) continued, these became rarer among characters.
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In the Three Episode Pilot ''More Than Meets the Eye'' the Autobots were consistently shown to be capable of independent flight ''without'' the use of jetpacks, something that would '''never''' happen again. Skyfire and the Aerialbots come into the story ''much'' later on, but they are shown to only be capable of flight in their vehicle mode (even when the location of their jets would logically make it possible in robot mode).
28th Mar '18 4:06:43 AM Mad_Spy
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** Soundwave's alternate mode is a perfect example. He turned into a casette player; an useful disguise back then, nowadays not so much. Of course, some more... nostalgic fans (luckily a minority) disagree with any attempt at modernization.

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** Soundwave's alternate mode is a perfect example. He turned into a casette cassette player; an useful disguise back then, nowadays not so much. Of course, some more... nostalgic fans (luckily a minority) disagree with any attempt at modernization.
21st Feb '18 9:34:05 AM nombretomado
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* TheRenaissanceAgeOfAnimation
25th Oct '17 3:03:43 PM BNSF1995
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The movie is infamous for killing off a large number of characters in order to give screen time to new toys. The deaths of [[MessianicArchetype Optimus Prime]] and [[DracoInLeatherPants Starscream]] in particular caused such consternation among fans that both characters were brought back in season three, after a fashion. And the replaced characters/toys such as Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus are subsequently disliked by some for being inferior [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute copies of the older characters.]] Interestingly, both of the aforementioned characters' [[DeathIsCheap deaths and revivals]] established now-time-honored traditions in ''Transformers'' fiction--that Starscream has an immortal spark (in G1 and related continuities) or is immortal by some other token (for example, in ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'', where he manages to stay alive because of an Allspark shard lodged in his forehead), and that Optimus Prime is prone to making {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s from which he will fairly quickly return.

The movie would not be released in Japan until 1989, and so an {{OAV}} by the name of ''Scramble City'' was made to introduce the new characters.

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The movie is infamous for killing off a large number of characters in order to give screen time to new toys. The deaths of [[MessianicArchetype Optimus Prime]] and [[DracoInLeatherPants Starscream]] in particular caused such consternation among fans that both characters were brought back in season three, after a fashion. fashion (Optimus was brought back by fan outcry, while Starscream came back because his toy was still available). And the replaced characters/toys such as Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus are subsequently disliked by some for being inferior [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute copies of the older characters.]] characters]] (Ultra Magnus, in particular, is essentially Optimus Prime painted white with a car carrier trailer that he can combine with to form a Super Mode). Interestingly, both of the aforementioned characters' [[DeathIsCheap deaths and revivals]] established now-time-honored traditions in ''Transformers'' fiction--that Starscream has has
an immortal spark (in G1 and related continuities) or is immortal by some other token (for example, in ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'', where he manages to stay alive because of an Allspark shard lodged in his forehead), and that Optimus Prime is prone to making {{Heroic Sacrifice}}s from which he will fairly quickly return.

return, to the point that Optimus dying and coming back has become expected and something of a RunningGag.

The movie would not be released in Japan until 1989, and so an {{OAV}} by the name of ''Scramble City'' was made to introduce the new characters.
characters. As a consequence of the movie not being released until 1989, several characters who died in the movie (ie Prowl, Ironhide, and Wheeljack) inexplicably show up alive in the Japanese-exclusive series ''The Headmasters'' and ''Victory'' (later fiction, though, would rectify this by saying that yes, Prowl and Wheeljack still die in the Japanese cartoon continuity, but they were replaced by their dimension-hopping counterparts from the BT World; still doesn't explain Ironhide's cameo, though).



They failed, and after that things settled back into the generally episodic format from the first two seasons. While the Decepticons were still a major threat, the Autobots tangled with the Quintessons just as often as their traditional enemies. This season also departed from the previous two by not having any faction restricted to Earth. Instead, the characters' adventures took place all over the galaxy, incorporating many strange alien worlds. At the end of the season, Optimus Prime was resurrected [[AuthorsSavingThrow following fan complaints]].

After this, the American and Japanese continuities diverged. In America, a fourth season began, and pretty much ended, with a three-part episode entitled "The Rebirth". During these episodes, the action moved to the planet Nebulos and introduced the new Headmaster and Targetmaster toys as partnerships between Transformers and the native Nebulans. However, this season was aborted after the introduction despite some promising new characters and plot details.

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They failed, and after that things settled back into the generally episodic format from the first two seasons. While the Decepticons were still a major threat, the Autobots tangled with the Quintessons just as often as their traditional enemies. This season also departed from the previous two by not having any faction restricted to Earth. Instead, the characters' adventures took place all over the galaxy, incorporating many strange alien worlds. At the end of the season, Optimus Prime was resurrected [[AuthorsSavingThrow following fan complaints]]. \n\n This was unprecedented, as Prime's toy had been discontinued and could only be obtained via mail-order flyers that came with the toys, and he wouldn't have a new toy until the Powermaster Optimus Prime figure came out in 1988.

After this, the American and Japanese continuities diverged. In America, a fourth season began, and pretty much ended, with a three-part episode entitled "The Rebirth". During these episodes, the action moved to the planet Nebulos and introduced the new Headmaster and Targetmaster toys as partnerships between Transformers and the native Nebulans. However, this season was aborted after the introduction despite some promising new characters and plot details.
details, primarily due to waning interest in the cartoon and ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' poised to catastrophically cut into ''Transformers''' market share.



In 1992, selected episodes of the cartoon were re-edited and aired as the ''Generation 2'' cartoon (which gave birth to the ''Generation 1'' name). They were identical to the G1 episodes, save for the fact that instead of the classic "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLiAknjZv2k Autobot symbol zooms in and flips over to reveal Decepticon symbol]]" (or vice-versa), scenes were transitioned between by the "[[ConspicuousCG Cybernet Space Cube]]".

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In 1992, selected episodes of the cartoon were re-edited and aired as the ''Generation 2'' cartoon (which gave birth to the ''Generation 1'' name). They were identical to the G1 episodes, save for the fact that instead of the classic "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLiAknjZv2k Autobot symbol zooms in and flips over to reveal Decepticon symbol]]" (or vice-versa), scenes were transitioned between by the "[[ConspicuousCG Cybernet Space Cube]]". \n There were additional gaudy CG effects added throughout the episodes, mainly borders and transitions, though in the case of "More than Meets the Eye, Part 1", it actually rectified a continuity error in the scene where the Decepticons board the Ark.



Most episodes were produced in a very short space of time, with the result that a large number of [[OffModel animation errors crept in]]. Characters were often drawn the wrong size, sometimes for effect or by accident. Another constant problem was characters being drawn in the wrong colours, which was very confusing as many of the characters were identical save for different colours (they were often simply repainted toys). This problem was particularly bad in season 3, as some of the episodes were animated by AKOM, a Korean animation company which, while cheaper than Toei, was also considerably sloppier.

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Most episodes were produced in a very short space of time, with the result that a large number of [[OffModel animation errors crept in]]. Characters were often drawn the wrong size, sometimes for effect or by accident. Another constant problem was characters being drawn in the wrong colours, which was very confusing as many of the characters were identical save for different colours (they were often simply repainted toys). This problem was particularly bad in season 3, as some many of the episodes were animated by AKOM, a Korean animation company which, while cheaper than Toei, Toei and produced animation with a slightly higher framerate, was also considerably sloppier.
sloppier, with characters using outdated animation models, Creator/HannaBarbera-esque shortcuts, rampant miscolorings. "Carnage in C-Minor" is the most egregious example. Several episodes in the second season were produced by an unknown animation studio thought to be based in the Philippines, while the third season episode "Call of the Primatives" had a distinct, and decidedly beautiful art style thought to have been animated by Creator/TMSEntertainment, but to date, this hasn't been proven.
9th Sep '17 1:31:12 AM SeptimusHeap
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* {{Crossover}}: The ''Transformers'' comic book had several crossovers with ''GIJoe'' and one with Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, not to mention the appearance of several characters in other continuities, like ComicBook/DeathsHead and Octus.

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* {{Crossover}}: The ''Transformers'' comic book had several crossovers with ''GIJoe'' and one with Comicbook/{{Spider-Man}}, Comicbook/SpiderMan, not to mention the appearance of several characters in other continuities, like ComicBook/DeathsHead and Octus.
13th Aug '17 1:44:27 AM SeptimusHeap
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The most infamous addition to the Japanese continuity is ''Kiss Players'', set between the movie, and Season 3, where Optimus Prime has been revived by Marissa Faireborn ([[{{Lolicon}} who looks about 8 even though she's 20]]) kissing him. It's [[{{Squick}} worse than it sounds]].

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The most infamous addition to the Japanese continuity is ''Kiss Players'', set between the movie, and Season 3, where Optimus Prime has been revived by Marissa Faireborn ([[{{Lolicon}} who (who looks about 8 even though she's 20]]) 20) kissing him. It's [[{{Squick}} worse than it sounds]].



* {{Lolicon}}: The infamous ''Kiss Players'' involved the Autobots having unsettling relations with underage girls and generally creepy "fanservice".
7th Jul '17 7:55:46 PM flamemario12
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* AudienceShift: Most current material based on ''Generation 1'', specifically comics, toys, games (such as ''VideoGame/TransformersDevastation'') and re-releases of the animated series, is aimed towards fans who grew up with the franchise rather than the children that it was originally intended for. The comic series by Dreamwave and later [=IDW=] are particularly DarkerAndEdgier, with frequent character deaths and even different characterizations (

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* AudienceShift: Most current material based on ''Generation 1'', specifically comics, toys, games (such as ''VideoGame/TransformersDevastation'') and re-releases of the animated series, is aimed towards fans who grew up with the franchise rather than the children that it was originally intended for. The comic series by Dreamwave and later [=IDW=] are particularly DarkerAndEdgier, with frequent character deaths and even different characterizations (characterizations.
4th Jul '17 11:49:05 PM flamemario12
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* AudienceShift: Most current material based on ''Generation 1'', specifically comics, toys, games (such as ''VideoGame/TransformersDevastation'') and re-releases of the animated series, is aimed towards fans who grew up with the franchise rather than the children that it was originally intended for. The comic series by Dreamwave and later [=IDW=] are particularly DarkerAndEdgier, with frequent character deaths and even different characterizations (



*** To be fair, this is the identical voice that Alan Oppenheimer uses for Mer-Man in ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983''.

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*** To be fair, this is * VillainDecay: Particularly prevalent with combiner teams, but also with characters representing other gimmicks, such as Triple-Changers. Devastator was unstoppable in early episodes, and in more than one episode unbeatable even by the identical voice that Alan Oppenheimer uses for Mer-Man entire Autobot team. Later, he could be broken up by a single shot from Perceptor. This effect was largely symmetrical, as Autobot combiners were also brought in ''WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse1983''.to replace the formerly formidable older ones. Multiple Autobot characters have been referred to as their "last line of defence", including Omega Supreme and Metroplex.
18th May '17 8:34:58 AM Killerikala
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* WeaksauceWeakness: Megatron orders his troops to retreat after being sprayed by... Fire-retardant foam. Apparently it can short circuit cybertronians, although Ironhide can actually shoot the stuff from his forearms. Why he never used it to drive away the Decepticons once and for all is left unanswered.
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