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15th Jun '16 2:02:24 AM morenohijazo
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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[Comicbook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.

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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[Comicbook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.release.
* ''ComicBook/ZipiYZape'': It has been argued that the strip started out as a rather unsubtle rip-off of ''ComicStrip/TheKatzenjammerKids'' before eventually growing into its own thing.
24th Mar '16 9:52:30 PM merotoker
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** The X-Men, along with the ''New Comicbook/TeenTitans'', set the gold standard for angst and melodrama in superhero comics, as well as telling more personal, character-driven stories. The widely-reviled [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League Detroit]] was DC's attempt at [[ReTool ReTooling]] the JLA into an X-Men clone.

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** The X-Men, along with the ''New Comicbook/TeenTitans'', set the gold standard for angst and melodrama in superhero comics, as well as telling more personal, character-driven stories. The widely-reviled [[JusticeLeagueOfAmerica [[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica Justice League Detroit]] was DC's attempt at [[ReTool ReTooling]] the JLA into an X-Men clone.



* ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' was the {{UR Example}} of origin stories in the more recent eras. Now both Marvel and DC produce Year One stories, with varying degrees of success, although none of them could match Batman's.

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* ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'' was the {{UR Example}} UrExample of origin stories in the more recent eras. Now both Marvel and DC produce Year One stories, with varying degrees of success, although none of them could match Batman's.



* The surprise success of Creator/MattFraction's run on ''Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles, such as WarrenEllis' ''Comicbook/MoonKnight'' run. A lot of the new titles for ''Comicbook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' and DC's ''DC You'' relaunch were very obviously inspired by Hawkeye.

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* The surprise success of Creator/MattFraction's run on ''Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles, such as WarrenEllis' Creator/WarrenEllis' ''Comicbook/MoonKnight'' run. A lot of the new titles for ''Comicbook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' and DC's ''DC You'' relaunch were very obviously inspired by Hawkeye.



* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[Comicbook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.

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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[Comicbook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.
22nd Jan '16 8:24:31 PM Prfnoff
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** UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks also had a secondary trend of vigilantes with ill-defined omnipotent powers, who'd fight street crime without much regard for ethics. See ComicBook/DoctorFate, Comicbook/GreenLantern, Comicbook/TheSpectre, Black Widow (No, not ''that'' Comicbook/BlackWidow), and so on.

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** UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks also had a secondary trend of vigilantes with ill-defined omnipotent powers, who'd fight street crime without much regard for ethics. See ComicBook/DoctorFate, Comicbook/GreenLantern, Comicbook/TheSpectre, Black Widow (No, not ''that'' Comicbook/BlackWidow), the Hangman, and so on.
6th Jan '16 10:21:42 PM Doug86
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* Nobody who's written Franchise/{{Batman}} in the past 20 years has been able to escape the influence of ''Comicbook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''. This case is particularly hilarious because the single greatest influence on Batman's character wasn't even canon. Even Batman's entry in the All-Star series, which was supposed to throw out all the complicated backstory and let the DC heroes have more Silver-Age-style adventures, was written by The Goddamn FrankMiller himself, and Batman was even more cranky and psychotic than ever.

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* Nobody who's written Franchise/{{Batman}} in the past 20 years has been able to escape the influence of ''Comicbook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns''. This case is particularly hilarious because the single greatest influence on Batman's character wasn't even canon. Even Batman's entry in the All-Star series, which was supposed to throw out all the complicated backstory and let the DC heroes have more Silver-Age-style adventures, was written by The Goddamn FrankMiller Creator/FrankMiller himself, and Batman was even more cranky and psychotic than ever.
15th Nov '15 2:11:12 PM StFan
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* Creator/IsaacBaranoff's ''ComicBook/{{Horndog}}'' inspired a number of knock-offs. Baranoff even got in on the act himself by introducing ''HereWolf'', which was not substantially different from ''Horndog'', except for having human characters (it since differentiated itself though).

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* Creator/IsaacBaranoff's ''ComicBook/{{Horndog}}'' inspired a number of knock-offs. Baranoff even got in on the act himself by introducing ''HereWolf'', ''Webcomic/HereWolf'', which was not substantially different from ''Horndog'', except for having human characters (it since differentiated itself though).
30th Oct '15 11:30:23 PM merotoker
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* {{Robin}} might as well be the TropeNamer for the KidSidekick, and his popularity in the GoldenAge lead to a [[FountainOfExpies string of similar kid partners]]. ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]], ComicBook/GreenArrow and Speedy, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and Sparky, Black Terror and Kid Terror, Mr. Scarlet and Pinky, [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] and Captain Marvel Jr.... the list goes on an on.
** Then during the SilverAge came ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} and Aqualad, Superman and ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, and Franchise/WonderWoman and ComicBook/WonderGirl.

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* {{Robin}} Comicbook/{{Robin}} might as well be the TropeNamer {{Trope Namer|s}} for the KidSidekick, and his popularity in the GoldenAge lead UsefulNotes/{{the Golden Age|OfComicBooks}} led to a [[FountainOfExpies string of similar kid partners]]. ComicBook/CaptainAmerica and [[ComicBook/BuckyBarnes Bucky]], ComicBook/GreenArrow and Speedy, ComicBook/BlueBeetle and Sparky, Black Terror and Kid Terror, Mr. Scarlet and Pinky, [[ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel]] and Captain Marvel Jr.... the list goes on an on.
** Then during the SilverAge UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} came ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} and Aqualad, Superman and ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, and Franchise/WonderWoman and ComicBook/WonderGirl.



* In {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}}, all comics followed trends, to the point where it was an in-joke among comic writers and fans, for example an EC story about hiring Jack Kamen includes the line, "Jack, you old son! I haven't seen you for two trends!" EC followed trends religiously for a while, then started their own, Horror Comics! This in turn led in part to UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode (boo! hiss!).
* Marvel's ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'' series was created in direct response to the massive success of DC's ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica''. Specifically, editor Martin Goodman told StanLee to come up with a team book to cash in on the trend DC had started.
* Creator/MarvelComics' success, particularly with ''ComicBook/{{Spider-Man}}'', the first teen superhero, had many publishers trying for a more teenager-friendly product; sadly, these often faded into TotallyRadical.

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* In {{the UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}}, all comics followed trends, to the point where it was an in-joke among comic writers and fans, for example an EC story about hiring Jack Kamen includes the line, "Jack, you old son! I haven't seen you for two trends!" EC followed trends religiously for a while, then started their own, Horror Comics! This in turn led in part to UsefulNotes/TheComicsCode (boo! hiss!).
* Marvel's ''Comicbook/FantasticFour'' series was created in direct response to the massive success of DC's ''JusticeLeagueOfAmerica''. ''Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica''. Specifically, editor Martin Goodman told StanLee Creator/StanLee to come up with a team book to cash in on the trend DC had started.
* Creator/MarvelComics' success, particularly with ''ComicBook/{{Spider-Man}}'', ''Franchise/SpiderMan'', the first teen superhero, had many publishers trying for a more teenager-friendly product; sadly, these often faded into TotallyRadical.



* After ''CaptainAmerica'' was retitled ''Captain America and TheFalcon'', there began a trend of giving superheroes a BlackBestFriend or partner. Among the most notable ones would be [[Comicbook/WarMachine James "Rhodey" Rhodes]] and [[Comicbook/GreenLantern John Stewart]].
** Rhodey also arguably popularized the AffirmativeActionLegacy trend, especially with his burst of popularity in the 90's. Afterwards we saw an explosion of minority replacement characters like {{Steel}}, [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke]].
* Before ''All-New, All-Different Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'', most superheroes were [=WASPs=]. ''X-Men'' pioneered the concept of diversity (at least [[TokenMinority the token kind]]) in superhero comics.
** And it's even OlderThanTheyThink; the first international multiracial hero team was ''{{Cyborg 009}}'', though it didn't achieve the success in the West that the X-Men did.

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* After ''CaptainAmerica'' ''Comicbook/CaptainAmerica'' was retitled ''Captain America and TheFalcon'', ComicBook/TheFalcon'', there began a trend of giving superheroes a BlackBestFriend or partner. Among the most notable ones would be [[Comicbook/WarMachine James "Rhodey" Rhodes]] and [[Comicbook/GreenLantern [[Franchise/GreenLantern John Stewart]].
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Stewart]]. Rhodey also arguably popularized the AffirmativeActionLegacy trend, especially with his burst of popularity in the 90's. Afterwards we saw an explosion of minority replacement characters like {{Steel}}, [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Cassandra Cain]], and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Connor Hawke]].
* Before ''All-New, All-Different Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'', Comicbook/XMen'', most superheroes were [=WASPs=]. ''X-Men'' pioneered the concept of diversity (at least [[TokenMinority the token kind]]) in superhero comics.
** And it's even OlderThanTheyThink; the first international multiracial hero team was ''{{Cyborg ''Manga/{{Cyborg 009}}'', though it didn't achieve the success in the West that the X-Men did.



* Marvel's ''MarvelMangaverse'' imprint was a rather blatant attempt to cash in on the success American networks had found with shows like ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''DragonBallZ'', ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', and ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''.
* Some fans claimed Marvel did this with SpiderWoman by giving her a more practical, female-friendly redesign after DC hired Brenden Fletcher, Babs Tarr, and Cameron Stewart to implement a similar redesign and revamp for ''[[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl]]''. However, Kris Anka claims he designed the costume a few months before DC debuted the new Batgirl, and the fact that the new Spider-Woman design was unveiled shortly after the positive reception Batgirl received is a complete coincidence.

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* Marvel's ''MarvelMangaverse'' ''Manga/MarvelMangaverse'' imprint was a rather blatant attempt to cash in on the success American networks had found with shows like ''Anime/SailorMoon'', ''DragonBallZ'', ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'', and ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}''.
* Some fans claimed Marvel did this with SpiderWoman ComicBook/SpiderWoman by giving her a more practical, female-friendly redesign after DC hired Brenden Fletcher, Babs Tarr, and Cameron Stewart to implement a similar redesign and revamp for ''[[Comicbook/{{Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl]]''. However, Kris Anka claims he designed the costume a few months before DC debuted the new Batgirl, and the fact that the new Spider-Woman design was unveiled shortly after the positive reception Batgirl received is a complete coincidence.



** The ever-hilarious Website/YouTube series ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHXeg7GhVbc&feature=channel Marvel/DC Happy Hour]]'' parodied this by having the second season's StoryArc involve the Joker using nanotechnology in an android named Lance to brainwash heroes like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/WonderWoman, ComicBook/IronMan, Comicbook/IncredibleHulk, and {{Wolverine}} into thinking that their loved ones died horribly right in front of them so that they would be more dark and brooding, like Franchise/{{Batman}}, except that they would break [[ThouShaltNotKill his one rule]] in pursuit of Justice. The only heroes he couldn't brainwash were Comicbook/GhostRider, Comicbook/ThePunisher (because he was already a dark, brooding, homicidal vigilante), and Franchise/SpiderMan (because the events of ''Comicbook/OneMoreDay'' had already altered his perception of reality, and he ''has'' lost everything but never loses his optimism).

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** The ever-hilarious Website/YouTube series ''[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHXeg7GhVbc&feature=channel Marvel/DC Happy Hour]]'' parodied this by having the second season's StoryArc involve the Joker using nanotechnology in an android named Lance to brainwash heroes like Franchise/{{Superman}}, Franchise/WonderWoman, ComicBook/IronMan, Comicbook/IncredibleHulk, and {{Wolverine}} Comicbook/{{Wolverine}} into thinking that their loved ones died horribly right in front of them so that they would be more dark and brooding, like Franchise/{{Batman}}, except that they would break [[ThouShaltNotKill his one rule]] in pursuit of Justice. The only heroes he couldn't brainwash were Comicbook/GhostRider, Comicbook/ThePunisher (because he was already a dark, brooding, homicidal vigilante), and Franchise/SpiderMan (because the events of ''Comicbook/OneMoreDay'' had already altered his perception of reality, and he ''has'' lost everything but never loses his optimism).



* At the height of the popularity of ''Comicbook/{{Spawn}}'', Marvel tried to cash-in rather shamelessly with ''[[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123677/2351180-616645_nightwatch1_large.jpg Nightwatch]]''.
** DC did the exact same thing with their post-''Comicbook/ZeroHour'' relaunch of ''[[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080910053748/marvel_dc/images/b/b0/Manhunter_Vol_2_0.jpg Manhunter]]''.

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* At the height of the popularity of ''Comicbook/{{Spawn}}'', Marvel tried to cash-in rather shamelessly with ''[[http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123677/2351180-616645_nightwatch1_large.jpg Nightwatch]]''.
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Nightwatch]]''. DC did the exact same thing with their post-''Comicbook/ZeroHour'' relaunch of ''[[http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080910053748/marvel_dc/images/b/b0/Manhunter_Vol_2_0.jpg Manhunter]]''.



* After the success of ''ComicBook/{{Diabolik}}'', Italian comic books were invaded by series [[VillainProtagonist starring an obviously evil murderous thief]], gifted with great intelligence and whose name included the letter 'K'. While most of them have disappeared, ''Diabolik'' is still going on, and so two of the followers: ''ComicBook/{{Cattivik}}'' (a very funny and [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs nonsensical]] ShallowParody, with a protagonist that is not intelligent but TooDumbTooLive) and, from ''Creator/{{Disney}}'', Paperinik (an alter ego of DonaldDuck who started out as avenger of himself, later turned to UnscrupolousHero and then to full hero, [[AntiHero if a bit sadistic]]. Best known internationally for ''ComicBook/PaperinikNewAdventures'').

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* After the success of ''ComicBook/{{Diabolik}}'', Italian comic books were invaded by series [[VillainProtagonist starring an obviously evil murderous thief]], gifted with great intelligence and whose name included the letter 'K'. While most of them have disappeared, ''Diabolik'' is still going on, and so two of the followers: ''ComicBook/{{Cattivik}}'' (a very funny and [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs nonsensical]] ShallowParody, with a protagonist that is not intelligent but TooDumbTooLive) TooDumbToLive) and, from ''Creator/{{Disney}}'', Paperinik (an alter ego of DonaldDuck WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck who started out as avenger of himself, later turned to UnscrupolousHero UnscrupulousHero and then to full hero, [[AntiHero if a bit sadistic]]. Best known internationally for ''ComicBook/PaperinikNewAdventures'').



* The surprise success of MattFraction's run on ''{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles, such as WarrenEllis' ''Comicbook/MoonKnight'' run. A lot of the new titles for ''Comicbook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' and DC's ''DC You'' relaunch were very obviously inspired by Hawkeye.

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* The surprise success of MattFraction's Creator/MattFraction's run on ''{{Hawkeye}}'' ''Comicbook/{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles, such as WarrenEllis' ''Comicbook/MoonKnight'' run. A lot of the new titles for ''Comicbook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' and DC's ''DC You'' relaunch were very obviously inspired by Hawkeye.



* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.

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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[MsMarvel ''[[Comicbook/MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.
26th Oct '15 5:05:15 PM comicwriter
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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.

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* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion of female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.
26th Oct '15 5:04:43 PM comicwriter
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* The surprise success of MattFraction's run on ''{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles.
* Likewise, the success of ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel|2014}}'' inspired a lot of books that either had minority or female (or both) leads, were LighterAndSofter, had increased focus on social issues, or some combination of those various points.

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* The surprise success of MattFraction's run on ''{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles.
styles, such as WarrenEllis' ''Comicbook/MoonKnight'' run. A lot of the new titles for ''Comicbook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' and DC's ''DC You'' relaunch were very obviously inspired by Hawkeye.
* Likewise, the success of ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel|2014}}'' and the above-mentioned ''Batgirl'' revamp inspired a lot slew of books that either had minority or female (or both) leads, were LighterAndSofter, had increased focus on featured more diverse casts and dealt with social issues, or some combination issues while remaining somewhat LighterAndSofter than the usual superhero fare.
* Even though the book itself wasn't a huge seller, the fandom that rose up around Creator/KellySueDeconnick's ''[[MsMarvel Captain Marvel]]'' is often credited with the explosion
of those various points.female-led titles that occurred at Marvel after its release.
26th Oct '15 5:01:17 PM comicwriter
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* Marvel launched a comic adaptation of the ''Marvel Contest of Champions'' video game after the success of DC's ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' adaptation.

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* Marvel launched a comic adaptation of the ''Marvel Contest of Champions'' video game after the success of DC's ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' adaptation.adaptation.
* The surprise success of MattFraction's run on ''{{Hawkeye}}'' with David Aja and Annie Wu led to Marvel and DC launching a number of "quirky," more subdued books with more intimate tones and unconventional art styles.
* Likewise, the success of ''Comicbook/{{Ms Marvel|2014}}'' inspired a lot of books that either had minority or female (or both) leads, were LighterAndSofter, had increased focus on social issues, or some combination of those various points.
24th Oct '15 7:03:05 AM StFan
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* The success of ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' in the 1980s spawned [[http://www.squidoo.com/boon-to-bust-bw-comics-1980-1990 a massive boom]] of independently-published, black-and-white comics. And just like TMNT, many of them also featured martial artists, {{Funny Animal}}s, or [[TeenageMutantSamuraiWombats both]].

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* The success of ''ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'' in the 1980s spawned [[http://www.squidoo.com/boon-to-bust-bw-comics-1980-1990 a massive boom]] of independently-published, black-and-white comics. And just like TMNT, many of them also featured martial artists, {{Funny Animal}}s, or [[TeenageMutantSamuraiWombats both]].
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