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* The fic draws many parallels between Darth Nihilus and Ozpin/Ozma to the point where it gets {{lampshaded}} by severals characters.

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* The fic draws many parallels between Darth Nihilus and Ozpin/Ozma Ozpin/Ozma, to the point where it gets {{lampshaded}} by severals several characters.



** Both are spirit that grant PowersViaPossession and implant their memories into their hosts. Neither Ozma nor his hosts have any control over the process and the host is chosen randomly for them. Nihilus ''can'' decide who he wants and doesn't want as a vessel, and his hosts have to be {{Willing Channeler}}s.

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** Both are spirit spirits that grant PowersViaPossession and implant their memories into their hosts. Neither Ozma nor his hosts have any control over the process process, and the host is chosen randomly for them. Nihilus ''can'' decide who he wants does and doesn't want as a vessel, and his hosts have to be {{Willing Channeler}}s.



* To Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]] to Remnant's inhabitants.

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* To Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress dresses in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have [[GodGuise passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]] to Remnant's inhabitants.
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* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him. [[spoiler:Both also end up killing themselves, but Cinder commits suicide to spite Nihilus by denying him her powers, while Jaune kills himself in order to protect his friends and defeat Nihilus.]]

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* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him. [[spoiler:Both also end up killing themselves, but Cinder commits suicide to spite [[SpitefulSuicide spite]] Nihilus by denying him her powers, while Jaune kills himself in order [[HeroicSuicide to protect his friends friends]] and defeat Nihilus.]]
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* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him.

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* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him. [[spoiler:Both also end up killing themselves, but Cinder commits suicide to spite Nihilus by denying him her powers, while Jaune kills himself in order to protect his friends and defeat Nihilus.]]
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** Salem is a long-term {{chessmaster}} who uses careful manipulation and psychology to slowly break down her enemies. In contrast, Nihilus is rather [[DidntThinkThisThrough short-sighted]] and prefers to use his brute strength to overpower his enemies.

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** Salem is a long-term {{chessmaster}} who uses careful manipulation and psychology to slowly break down her enemies. In contrast, Nihilus is rather [[DidntThinkThisThrough short-sighted]] and prefers to use his brute strength to directly overpower his enemies.enemies with brute force.
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* Salem and Darth Traya. Both have chalk-white skin, white hair, wear a black cloak, have a gem on their forehead, and have a RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver color motif. While Traya is elderly, blind and physically frail; Salem has the appearance of a youthful woman due to her immortality and possesses SuperStrength. Both also have beef with their setting's deity. But while Traya wanted to kill the Force because she's a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believed that doing so would benefit the galaxy in the long run, Salem [[ItsAllAboutMe only cared about herself]] and tried to destroy the Brother Gods out of revenge and spite. Finally, both play a mentor role to a member of the BigBadEnsemble. However, Traya underestimated Nihilus, who easily betrays her and usurps her power. In contrast, Salem is able to keep control over Cinder.

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* Salem and Darth Kreia/Darth Traya. Appearance-wise, the two are nearly identical. Both have chalk-white skin, skin and [[WhiteHairBlackHeart white hair, hair]], both dress in a BlackCloak and wear a black cloak, have a gem on their forehead, and have both make use of a RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver color motif. While Traya However, while Kreia is elderly, blind and physically frail; Salem is immortal, has the appearance body of a youthful woman due to in her immortality prime, and possesses SuperStrength. Both also have beef with their setting's deity. But while Traya Kreia wanted to kill the Force because she's a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believed that doing so would benefit the galaxy in the long run, Salem [[ItsAllAboutMe only cared about herself]] and tried to destroy the Brother Gods out of petty revenge and spite. Finally, both play a mentor role to a member of the BigBadEnsemble. However, Traya underestimated Nihilus, who easily betrays Nihilus and was ultimately overthrown by her and usurps her power. In apprentice. Salem, in contrast, Salem is able to keep her control over Cinder.
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* Weiss' father Jacques Schnee to Jaune's parents. Both are controlling of their children's lives and were unsupportive of their children's desire to enroll at Beacon to become Huntsmen. However, Jaune's parents were of the MyBelovedSmother type of parents, being overprotective and invasive out of a misguided desire to keep their son safe. Jacques, meanwhile, was emotionally abusive towards Weiss and cared more about his wealth and reputation rather than his family.

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* Weiss' father Jacques Schnee to Jaune's parents. Both are were controlling of towards their children's lives and were unsupportive of their children's desire to enroll at Beacon to become Huntsmen. Academy. However, Jaune's parents were of the MyBelovedSmother type of parents, kind, genuinely loving him and their extreme overprotectiveness being overprotective and invasive out the product of a misguided desire to keep their son safe. Jacques, meanwhile, was emotionally abusive towards Weiss and cared more about his wealth and reputation rather than his family.own family. Also, while Jacques did grudgingly allow Weiss to attend Beacon, Jaune had to run away from home in order to enroll.

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* To Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]] to Remnant's people.

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* To Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]] to Remnant's people.inhabitants.


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* Weiss' father Jacques Schnee to Jaune's parents. Both are controlling of their children's lives and were unsupportive of their children's desire to enroll at Beacon to become Huntsmen. However, Jaune's parents were of the MyBelovedSmother type of parents, being overprotective and invasive out of a misguided desire to keep their son safe. Jacques, meanwhile, was emotionally abusive towards Weiss and cared more about his wealth and reputation rather than his family.

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!!''Fanfic/JauneArcLordOfHunger''



!!''Fanfic/JauneArcLordOfHunger''

* Glynda Goodwitch and Darth Nihilus. Both have the power of telekinesis and act as a mentor for Jaune. Glynda takes a hands-on approach to teaching and tries to teach Jaune to restrain his powers and not rely on his emotions to control them. Nihilus, by contrast, is very hands-off with his mentoring and is content to let Jaune [[FigureItOutYourself figure it all out by himself]]. He influences Jaune to embrace all his emotions and use them to fuel his ever-growing powers.
* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him.
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!!''Fanfic/JauneArcLordOfHunger''

!!Darth Nihilus

* Glynda Goodwitch and Darth Nihilus. Both have the power of telekinesis and act as a mentor for Jaune. Glynda takes a hands-on approach to teaching and tries to teach Jaune to restrain his powers and not rely on his emotions to control them. Nihilus, by contrast, is very hands-off with his mentoring and is content to let Jaune [[FigureItOutYourself figure it all out by himself]]. He influences Jaune to embrace all his emotions and use them to fuel his ever-growing powers.
* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him.
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The fic draws many parallels between Darth Nihilus and Ozpin/Ozma to Ozpin/Ozma.the point where it gets {{lampshaded}} by severals characters.



* Darth Nihilus to Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have previously passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]].

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* Darth Nihilus to To Salem. Both are an AncientEvil that [[EvilWearsBlack dress in black]], [[WasOnceAMan used to be human]], and have previously passed themselves off as [[GodGuise gods]].gods]] to Remnant's people.



* Pyrrha Nikos and Nora Valkyrie. Both are female teammates of Jaune's and are {{Secret Keeper}}s regarding his powers and dreams. While Nora encourages Jaune's use of the Force and approves of his increased aggressiveness under the Dark Side's influence, Pyrrha is uncertain about Jaune's new powers and finds herself disturbed by how different Jaune becomes under Nihilus's influence.
* Sando and Collan Eislo. Sando is a female Rodian pirate who leads a gang of lowly criminals. Eislo is a male human nobleman who leads a cult [[AristocratTeam consisting of high-born nobles]]. Both are after the Mask of Nihilus but have different motivations. Sando is unaware of the mask's supernatural properties and only wants it [[OnlyInItForTheMoney for its value on the black market]]. In contrast, Eislo has extensively studied the ancient Sith and is fully aware that the mask is a container for Nihilus's soul. Unlike Sando, he wants the mask because he seeks to reawaken Nihilus's spirit and serve him as his Sith apprentice.
* Alpha/Church to Penny Polendina. Both are military androids with [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots human-like traits]]. Alpha identifies as male and has a very cynical personality. In contrast, Penny has the appearance and mindset of a cheerful teenage girl. Alpha is the most sociable of his team and acts as TheFace, while Penny has NoSocialSkills. While Alpha is a sarcastic DeadpanSnarker, Penny tends to be LiteralMinded. Whereas Alpha is a {{Jerkass}} who shows a LackOfEmpathy for others, Penny is a NiceGirl who is empathetic towards everyone around her.
* Petros Krizoz to Collan Eislo. Both were the leader of cults that worshipped Nihilus. While Collan possessed minor Force-sensitivity, Petros lacked a connection to the Force entirely. While Collan had extensively studied the Mask of Nihilus and knew of its dark history, Petros barely understood the mask and mistook it as a gift from the Brother Gods. Collan was motivated by a selfish desire for power and fame, while Petros was driven by his strong faith and religion. Collan knew exactly who Nihilus was, whereas Petros thought he was the God of Darkness. While Nihilus rejected Collan's worship and killed him, he accepted Petros's worship and made him his chief follower. Their respective cults also differ as while Collan's Apex Society sought to become the new Sith Order, Petros's Temple of Shadows winds up becoming an evil expy of the Jedi Order.
* Alixandre Arc and the canon version of James Ironwood. Like Ironwood, Alixandre is the leading general of a kingdom's military who served one of Ozma's incarnations. Whereas canon!Ironwood believed that [[HolierThanThou only he knew best]] and was partially driven by the [[SecretlySelfish desire to be validated]], Alixandre remained a HumbleHero who put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his own desires. While canon!Ironwood often questioned Ozpin's decisions and ultimately turned against him after Salem preyed on his vulnerabilities, Alixandre kept his UndyingLoyalty to Osmund and resisted Nihilus's influence. Canon!Ironwood is incapable of accepting fault and always pins the blame on others when things go wrong. After breaking free of Nihilus's influence, the first person Alix blamed was himself for allowing to Nihilus to influence him in the first place. This is also reflected in their choice of weapons. Alixandre uses a sword and shield (close-range weapons) while Ironwood used a pair of pistols (long-range weapons).
* Alixandre is also one to Jaune. Both are [[spoiler:latent Force-sensitive]] Remnantians who fell under the Mask of Nihilus's influence. While Alix managed to break resist Nihilus and break free, Jaune becomes corrupted by Nihilus.
* Jaune Arc to Meetra Surik. [[spoiler:Both are wounds in the Force. While Jaune developed the same HorrorHunger that Nihilus did, Meetra didn't. Both unknowingly influences their friends with the Force. While Meetra became a MagneticHero, Jaune ends up alienating and destroying his friends. Jaune winds up falling to the Dark Side, while Meetra remained on the Light Side.]]

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* Pyrrha Nikos and Nora Valkyrie. To Glynda Goodwitch. Both are female teammates have the power of Jaune's telekinesis and are {{Secret Keeper}}s regarding act as a mentor for Jaune. Glynda takes a hands-on approach to teaching and tries to teach Jaune to restrain his powers and dreams. While Nora encourages Jaune's use of the Force and approves of not rely on his increased aggressiveness under the Dark Side's influence, Pyrrha is uncertain about Jaune's new powers and finds herself disturbed emotions to control them. Nihilus, by how different Jaune becomes under Nihilus's influence.
* Sando and Collan Eislo. Sando is a female Rodian pirate who leads a gang of lowly criminals. Eislo is a male human nobleman who leads a cult [[AristocratTeam consisting of high-born nobles]]. Both are after the Mask of Nihilus but have different motivations. Sando is unaware of the mask's supernatural properties and only wants it [[OnlyInItForTheMoney for its value on the black market]]. In
contrast, Eislo has extensively studied the ancient Sith is very hands-off with his mentoring and is fully aware that the mask is a container for Nihilus's soul. Unlike Sando, he wants the mask because he seeks content to reawaken Nihilus's spirit and serve him as his Sith apprentice.
* Alpha/Church to Penny Polendina. Both are military androids with [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots human-like traits]]. Alpha identifies as male and has a very cynical personality. In contrast, Penny has the appearance and mindset of a cheerful teenage girl. Alpha is the most sociable of his team and acts as TheFace, while Penny has NoSocialSkills. While Alpha is a sarcastic DeadpanSnarker, Penny tends to be LiteralMinded. Whereas Alpha is a {{Jerkass}} who shows a LackOfEmpathy for others, Penny is a NiceGirl who is empathetic towards everyone around her.
* Petros Krizoz to Collan Eislo. Both were the leader of cults that worshipped Nihilus. While Collan possessed minor Force-sensitivity, Petros lacked a connection to the Force entirely. While Collan had extensively studied the Mask of Nihilus and knew of its dark history, Petros barely understood the mask and mistook it as a gift from the Brother Gods. Collan was motivated by a selfish desire for power and fame, while Petros was driven by his strong faith and religion. Collan knew exactly who Nihilus was, whereas Petros thought he was the God of Darkness. While Nihilus rejected Collan's worship and killed him, he accepted Petros's worship and made him his chief follower. Their respective cults also differ as while Collan's Apex Society sought to become the new Sith Order, Petros's Temple of Shadows winds up becoming an evil expy of the Jedi Order.
* Alixandre Arc and the canon version of James Ironwood. Like Ironwood, Alixandre is the leading general of a kingdom's military who served one of Ozma's incarnations. Whereas canon!Ironwood believed that [[HolierThanThou only he knew best]] and was partially driven by the [[SecretlySelfish desire to be validated]], Alixandre remained a HumbleHero who put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his own desires. While canon!Ironwood often questioned Ozpin's decisions and ultimately turned against him after Salem preyed on his vulnerabilities, Alixandre kept his UndyingLoyalty to Osmund and resisted Nihilus's influence. Canon!Ironwood is incapable of accepting fault and always pins the blame on others when things go wrong. After breaking free of Nihilus's influence, the first person Alix blamed was himself for allowing to Nihilus to influence him in the first place. This is also reflected in their choice of weapons. Alixandre uses a sword and shield (close-range weapons) while Ironwood used a pair of pistols (long-range weapons).
* Alixandre is also one to Jaune. Both are [[spoiler:latent Force-sensitive]] Remnantians who fell under the Mask of Nihilus's influence. While Alix managed to break resist Nihilus and break free,
let Jaune becomes corrupted [[FigureItOutYourself figure it all out by Nihilus.
* Jaune Arc to Meetra Surik. [[spoiler:Both are wounds in the Force. While Jaune developed the same HorrorHunger that Nihilus did, Meetra didn't. Both unknowingly
himself]]. He influences their friends with the Force. While Meetra became a MagneticHero, Jaune ends up alienating to embrace all his emotions and destroying use them to fuel his friends. Jaune winds up falling to the Dark Side, while Meetra remained on the Light Side.]]ever-growing powers.



* Darth Nihilus to Cinder Fall. Both are power-hungry egomaniacs who believe that their respective powers make them invincible. Both are driven by the fear of being weak and were the servants of a greater evil (Traya for Nihilus, Salem for Cinder). However, while Nihilus eventually overthrew Traya, Cinder remained loyal to Salem. Both outwardly project being calm and composed. But while Nihilus is genuinely TheStoic, Cinder is wearing a MaskOfSanity to hide her psychotic and temperamental nature. Their fighting styles are also polar opposites. Cinder prefers using very flashy attacks that show off her power while Nihilus tends to hold back in a fight and relies on a BoringButPractical style of fighting.

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* Darth Nihilus to To Cinder Fall. Both are power-hungry egomaniacs who believe that their respective powers make them invincible. Both are driven by the fear of being weak and were the servants of a greater evil (Traya for Nihilus, Salem for Cinder). However, while Nihilus eventually overthrew Traya, Cinder remained loyal to Salem. Both outwardly project being calm and composed. But while Nihilus is genuinely TheStoic, Cinder is wearing a MaskOfSanity to hide her psychotic and temperamental nature. Their fighting styles are also polar opposites. Cinder prefers using very flashy attacks that show off her power while Nihilus tends to hold back in a fight and relies on a BoringButPractical style of fighting.fighting.

!!Jaune Arc
* As Jaune's connection to the Force grows stronger, he develops into a clear foil for Cinder. Both went FromNobodyToNightmare, both are pawns to a greater AncientEvil, both seek to become "strong", both use magic that is considered [[WrongContextMagic unusual for the setting]] (Jaune with his Force-sensitivity and Cinder with her Maiden powers), and both are identified as sociopaths. However, Jaune is driven by his desire to protect the ones he loves and sees himself as a {{Protectorate}} to his team. Cinder, meanwhile, is driven solely by her lust for power and is an egomaniac who only cares about herself. Cinder idolizes Salem and desire to [[IJustWantToBeYou become just like her]], while Jaune is (initially) horrified by Nihilus and swears to never become anything like him.
* To his ancestor Alixandre Arc. Both are [[spoiler:latent Force-sensitive]] Remnantians who fell under the Mask of Nihilus's influence. While Alix managed to break resist Nihilus and break free, Jaune becomes corrupted by Nihilus.
* To Meetra Surik. [[spoiler:Both are wounds in the Force. While Jaune developed the same HorrorHunger that Nihilus did, Meetra didn't. Both unknowingly influences their friends with the Force. While Meetra became a MagneticHero, Jaune ends up alienating and destroying his friends. Jaune winds up falling to the Dark Side, while Meetra remained on the Light Side.]]

!!Others
* Pyrrha Nikos and Nora Valkyrie. Both are female teammates of Jaune's and are {{Secret Keeper}}s regarding his powers and dreams. While Nora encourages Jaune's use of the Force and approves of his increased aggressiveness under the Dark Side's influence, Pyrrha is uncertain about Jaune's new powers and finds herself disturbed by how different Jaune becomes under Nihilus's influence.
* Sando and Collan Eislo. Sando is a female Rodian pirate who leads a gang of lowly criminals. Eislo is a male human nobleman who leads a cult [[AristocratTeam consisting of high-born nobles]]. Both are after the Mask of Nihilus but have different motivations. Sando is unaware of the mask's supernatural properties and only wants it [[OnlyInItForTheMoney for its value on the black market]]. In contrast, Eislo has extensively studied the ancient Sith and is fully aware that the mask is a container for Nihilus's soul. Unlike Sando, he wants the mask because he seeks to reawaken Nihilus's spirit and serve him as his Sith apprentice.
* Alpha/Church to Penny Polendina. Both are military androids with [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots human-like traits]]. Alpha identifies as male and has a very cynical personality. In contrast, Penny has the appearance and mindset of a cheerful teenage girl. Alpha is the most sociable of his team and acts as TheFace, while Penny has NoSocialSkills. While Alpha is a sarcastic DeadpanSnarker, Penny tends to be LiteralMinded. Whereas Alpha is a {{Jerkass}} who shows a LackOfEmpathy for others, Penny is a NiceGirl who is empathetic towards everyone around her.
* Petros Krizoz to Collan Eislo. Both were the leader of cults that worshipped Nihilus. While Collan possessed minor Force-sensitivity, Petros lacked a connection to the Force entirely. While Collan had extensively studied the Mask of Nihilus and knew of its dark history, Petros barely understood the mask and mistook it as a gift from the Brother Gods. Collan was motivated by a selfish desire for power and fame, while Petros was driven by his strong faith and religion. Collan knew exactly who Nihilus was, whereas Petros thought he was the God of Darkness. While Nihilus rejected Collan's worship and killed him, he accepted Petros's worship and made him his chief follower. Their respective cults also differ as while Collan's Apex Society sought to become the new Sith Order, Petros's Temple of Shadows winds up becoming an evil expy of the Jedi Order.
* Alixandre Arc and the canon version of James Ironwood. Like Ironwood, Alixandre is the leading general of a kingdom's military who served one of Ozma's incarnations. Whereas canon!Ironwood believed that [[HolierThanThou only he knew best]] and was partially driven by the [[SecretlySelfish desire to be validated]], Alixandre remained a HumbleHero who put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his own desires. While canon!Ironwood often questioned Ozpin's decisions and ultimately turned against him after Salem preyed on his vulnerabilities, Alixandre kept his UndyingLoyalty to Osmund and resisted Nihilus's influence. Canon!Ironwood is incapable of accepting fault and always pins the blame on others when things go wrong. After breaking free of Nihilus's influence, the first person Alix blamed was himself for allowing to Nihilus to influence him in the first place. This is also reflected in their choice of weapons. Alixandre uses a sword and shield (close-range weapons) while Ironwood used a pair of pistols (long-range weapons).
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* Salem and Darth Traya. Both have chalk-white skin, white hair, wear a black cloak, have a gem on their forehead, and have a RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver color motif. While Traya is elderly, blind and physically frail; Salem has the appearance of a youthful woman due to her immortality and possesses SuperStrength. Both also have beef with their setting's deity. But while Traya wanted to kill the Force because she's a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believed that so would benefit the galaxy in the long run, Salem only cared about herself and tried to destroy the Brother Gods out of revenge and spite. Finally, both play a mentor role to a member of the story's BigBadEnsemble. However, Traya underestimated Nihilus, who easily betrays her and usurps her power. In contrast, Salem is able to keep control over Cinder.

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* Salem and Darth Traya. Both have chalk-white skin, white hair, wear a black cloak, have a gem on their forehead, and have a RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver color motif. While Traya is elderly, blind and physically frail; Salem has the appearance of a youthful woman due to her immortality and possesses SuperStrength. Both also have beef with their setting's deity. But while Traya wanted to kill the Force because she's a WellIntentionedExtremist who truly believed that doing so would benefit the galaxy in the long run, Salem [[ItsAllAboutMe only cared about herself herself]] and tried to destroy the Brother Gods out of revenge and spite. Finally, both play a mentor role to a member of the story's BigBadEnsemble. However, Traya underestimated Nihilus, who easily betrays her and usurps her power. In contrast, Salem is able to keep control over Cinder.
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** Ozma genuinely cares about his hosts' wellbeing and feels guilt for what he's putting them through. Nihilus sees his hosts as nothing but pawns and emotionally manipulates them until they're [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer of use]] to him.
** The entire process through which Nihilus possesses someone is a complete reversal of Ozma's. Ozma possesses his hosts first and then implants his powers and memories later on. In contrast, Nihilus starts by empowering Jaune and implanting his memories into his mind. The actual possession part comes last for Nihilus.
** While Ozma cooperates with his hosts and eventually undergoes a SplitPersonalityMerge with them, Nihilus dominates his host's minds before erasing them entirely.

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** Ozma Ozpin genuinely cares about his hosts' wellbeing and feels guilt for what he's putting them through. Nihilus sees his hosts as nothing but pawns and emotionally manipulates them until they're [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no longer of use]] to him.
** The entire process through which Nihilus possesses someone is a complete reversal of Ozma's. Ozma Ozpin's. Ozpin possesses his hosts first and then implants his powers and memories later on. In contrast, Nihilus starts by empowering Jaune and implanting his memories into his mind. The actual possession part comes last for Nihilus.
** While Ozma Ozpin cooperates with his hosts and eventually undergoes a SplitPersonalityMerge with them, Nihilus dominates his host's minds before erasing them entirely.
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* Alixandre [[spoiler:Arc]] and the canon version of James Ironwood. Like Ironwood, Alixandre is the leading general of a kingdom's military who served one of Ozma's incarnations. Whereas canon!Ironwood believed that [[HolierThanThou only he knew best]] and was partially driven by the [[SecretlySelfish desire to be validated]], Alixandre remained a HumbleHero who put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his own desires. While canon!Ironwood often questioned Ozpin's decisions and ultimately turned against him after Salem preyed on his vulnerabilities, Alixandre kept his UndyingLoyalty to Osmund and resisted Nihilus's influence. Canon!Ironwood is incapable of accepting fault and always pins the blame on others when things go wrong. After breaking free of Nihilus's influence, the first person Alix blamed was himself for allowing to Nihilus to influence him in the first place. This is also reflected in their choice of weapons. Alixandre uses a sword and shield (close-range weapons) while Ironwood used a pair of pistols (long-range weapons).

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* Alixandre [[spoiler:Arc]] Arc and the canon version of James Ironwood. Like Ironwood, Alixandre is the leading general of a kingdom's military who served one of Ozma's incarnations. Whereas canon!Ironwood believed that [[HolierThanThou only he knew best]] and was partially driven by the [[SecretlySelfish desire to be validated]], Alixandre remained a HumbleHero who put the needs of his kingdom ahead of his own desires. While canon!Ironwood often questioned Ozpin's decisions and ultimately turned against him after Salem preyed on his vulnerabilities, Alixandre kept his UndyingLoyalty to Osmund and resisted Nihilus's influence. Canon!Ironwood is incapable of accepting fault and always pins the blame on others when things go wrong. After breaking free of Nihilus's influence, the first person Alix blamed was himself for allowing to Nihilus to influence him in the first place. This is also reflected in their choice of weapons. Alixandre uses a sword and shield (close-range weapons) while Ironwood used a pair of pistols (long-range weapons).

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