History Film / WhenTrumpetsFade

30th Nov '15 7:04:47 AM FF32
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As the tagline ''"In the heat of battle, not all soldiers can be heroes"'' suggests, ''When Trumpets Fade'' is set unusually far to the nihilistic end of the SlidingScaleOfCynicismVsIdealism for [[AmericaWonWorldWarII an American World War Two film]], [[GenreDeconstruction subverting]] redemptive tropes like the BandOfBrothers and NoOneGetsLeftBehind through the figure of its [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation ambiguous]] protagonist.

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As the tagline ''"In the heat of battle, not all soldiers can be heroes"'' suggests, ''When Trumpets Fade'' is set unusually far to the nihilistic end of the SlidingScaleOfCynicismVsIdealism SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism for [[AmericaWonWorldWarII an American World War Two film]], [[GenreDeconstruction subverting]] redemptive tropes like the BandOfBrothers and NoOneGetsLeftBehind through the figure of its [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation ambiguous]] protagonist.
4th Oct '15 5:57:47 AM Morgenthaler
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As the tagline ''"In the heat of battle, not all soldiers can be heroes"'' suggests, ''When Trumpets Fade'' is set unusually far to the nihilistic end of the SlidingScaleOfCynicismVsIdealism for [[AmericaWinsTheWar an American World War Two film]], [[GenreDeconstruction subverting]] redemptive tropes like the BandOfBrothers and NoOneGetsLeftBehind through the figure of its [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation ambiguous]] protagonist.

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As the tagline ''"In the heat of battle, not all soldiers can be heroes"'' suggests, ''When Trumpets Fade'' is set unusually far to the nihilistic end of the SlidingScaleOfCynicismVsIdealism for [[AmericaWinsTheWar [[AmericaWonWorldWarII an American World War Two film]], [[GenreDeconstruction subverting]] redemptive tropes like the BandOfBrothers and NoOneGetsLeftBehind through the figure of its [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation ambiguous]] protagonist.
17th Jul '15 5:18:45 AM YT45
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* BasedOnATrueStory: It's a fictional story set against the backdrop of a real battle. The movie tries hard to do justice to the nastiness of the Battle of Hürtgen Forest; the real battle was even ''worse''.
17th Jul '15 5:15:25 AM YT45
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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: The opening scene. Manning carries the mortally-wounded Bobby off the front. [[spoiler: Then he shoots him.]]

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: The opening scene. Manning carries the mortally-wounded Bobby off the front. [[spoiler: Then he [[MercyKill shoots him.him]].]]
16th Jun '15 12:28:57 AM Morgenthaler
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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''Film/HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Creator/StevenSpielberg (who directed [[Film/SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[Series/ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].

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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''Film/HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Creator/StevenSpielberg (who directed [[Film/SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[Series/ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), Bulge), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].
13th Jun '15 4:35:08 AM erforce
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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''Film/HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Steven Spielberg (who directed [[SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].

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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''Film/HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Steven Spielberg Creator/StevenSpielberg (who directed [[SavingPrivateRyan [[Film/SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[ThePacific [[Series/ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].



* AFatherToHisMen: Captain Pritchett is interested in his subordinates' welfare. Manning... isn't.
* AntiHero
* AnyoneCanDie

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* AFatherToHisMen: Captain Pritchett is interested in his subordinates' welfare. Manning... isn't.
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%%* AntiHero
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* CrapsackWorld: The Hurtgen Forest.
* DeadpanSnarker: Manning.

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* %%* CrapsackWorld: The Hurtgen Forest.
* %%* DeadpanSnarker: Manning.


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* AFatherToHisMen: Captain Pritchett is interested in his subordinates' welfare. Manning... isn't.
29th Jan '15 2:30:46 PM Morgenthaler
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* SpiritualSuccessor: Averted with subsequent, better-known, rather less cynical HBO WorldWarII miniseries ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' and ''ThePacific''. ''When Trumpets Fade'' was, however, retitled ''HamburgerHill 2'' in some markets.

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* SpiritualSuccessor: Averted with subsequent, better-known, rather less cynical HBO WorldWarII miniseries ''Series/BandOfBrothers'' and ''ThePacific''. ''Series/ThePacific''. ''When Trumpets Fade'' was, however, retitled ''HamburgerHill ''Film/HamburgerHill 2'' in some markets.
26th Sep '14 1:50:17 PM Morgenthaler
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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Steven Spielberg (who directed [[SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].

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''When Trumpets Fade'' is a 1998 HBO WorldWarTwo film directed by John Irvin (''HamburgerHill''), (''Film/HamburgerHill''), the script of which was discovered by Steven Spielberg (who directed [[SavingPrivateRyan that other 1998 WWII movie]] and produced [[Series/BandOfBrothers those]] [[ThePacific other]] HBO WWII series). Set during the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest in November 1944, the film underlines its heavy casualties and relative obscurity (compared to the subsequent [[BattleOfTheBulge Battle of the Bulge]]), but is [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory not based on specific details of the campaign.]] Instead it follows the CharacterDevelopment of antihero Sergeant Manning, whose [[HowToSurviveAWarMovie attempts to escape the battle]] ironically only [[BadassUnintentional expose his competence]] and lead him into [[SurprisinglyEliteCannonFodder escalating exploits]].



!!'''''When Trumpets Fade'' contains examples of:'''

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!!'''''When !!''When Trumpets Fade'' contains examples of:'''
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* [[spoiler: DownerEnding]]: [[spoiler: TheHeroDies and the battle that got him and others killed is now largely forgotten.]]

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* [[spoiler: DownerEnding]]: DownerEnding: [[spoiler: TheHeroDies and the battle that got him and others killed is now largely forgotten.]]



* [[spoiler: HiddenDepths]]: [[spoiler: Manning was BrilliantButLazy [[BeautifulAllALong All Along]], according to Pritchett's recommendation for commissioning him.]]

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* [[spoiler: HiddenDepths]]: HiddenDepths: [[spoiler: Manning was BrilliantButLazy [[BeautifulAllALong All Along]], according to Pritchett's recommendation for commissioning him.]]



* [[spoiler: SacrificialLamb]]: Bobby.

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* SacrificialLamb: [[spoiler: SacrificialLamb]]: Bobby.]]
31st Jan '14 9:42:20 AM Willbyr
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* ColonelBadass: Colonel Hardass, at least. [[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep They call him Lieutenant Colonel]], though [[YouMightRememberMeFrom viewers may know him as]] DwightYoakam.

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* ColonelBadass: Colonel Hardass, at least. [[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep They call him Lieutenant Colonel]], though [[YouMightRememberMeFrom viewers may know him as]] DwightYoakam.Music/DwightYoakam.
7th Nov '12 6:26:43 PM damus2300
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* [[spoiler: DownerEnding]]: [[spoiler: TheHeroDies.]]

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* [[spoiler: DownerEnding]]: [[spoiler: TheHeroDies.TheHeroDies and the battle that got him and others killed is now largely forgotten.]]
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