History Film / WallStreet

9th Nov '15 4:25:44 PM PaulA
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* UsefulNotes/AcademyAward: Michael Douglas won the 1987 Oscar for Best Actor for his work on the film.

** [[spoiler:Subverted. The sequel reveals that Bud ''did'' serve prison time but after he served, he was released and then took over the airline. Through his leadership, the company became one of the wealthiest airlines in America. He then sold it and now he spends his days as a retired millionaire]].

* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: While the movie goes to great length to depict the despicability of corporate raiding, it nevertheless motivated many aspiring young men with flexible morals to get into the exchange business.

* [[spoiler: HiddenWire]]
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* [[spoiler: HiddenWire]]HiddenWire: [[spoiler:Bud Fox uses a hidden wire during his final confrontation with Gordon Gekko, in a successful attempt to provoke Gekko into confessing his complicity in Fox's insider trading and Gekko's own criminal behavior.]]

* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: This is an anti-corporate, anti-capitalist movie produced by a major movie studio using corporate finance with the ultimate aim of making a profit. ** Actually, WordOfGod states that the film is actually more of a criticism of the cynical, quick-buck culture of the '80s business world, and is neither pro- nor anti- Wall Street. It was made to paint a picture of that world (the director's father was a stock broker himself), and leave viewers to form their own opinions. Given the many, many different views of the film, he's succeeded. There is probably a very high correlation between one's opinion of the film and one's economic views.

* NewEraSpeech: Three words: "Greed is good." Also the movie's CrowningMomentOfAwesome.
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* NewEraSpeech: Three words: "Greed is good." Also the movie's CrowningMomentOfAwesome."

* PerpWalk: The scene mentioned above.
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* PerpWalk: The scene mentioned above.[[spoiler:Bud after he's arrested for insider trading.]]

* PresentDayPast: The film, released in late 1987, has an opening title saying the movie takes place in 1985. Yet within a minutes a character makes a reference to the ''Challenger'' disaster, which happened in early 1986. ** This was the result of adding the "1985" title after most of the film had been completed, as a way of setting it before a number of insider-trading scandals that had unfolded over the time the film was made. * SatelliteLoveInterest: Darien Taylor. The role earned Creator/DarylHannah that year's UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Supporting Actress, thus making this the only film to ever win both an [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar]] and a Razzie. ** Oliver Stone even said he considered trading her with Sean Young, who plays Gekko's wife. Considering that Hannah later admitted her performance suffered because she disliked playing such a shallow character, and Young ended up stealing the costumes she wore after production wrapped because her part wasn't as big as she thought it would be, Stone probably should have.
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* PresentDayPast: The film, released in late 1987, has an opening title saying the movie takes place in 1985. Yet within a minutes a character makes a reference to the ''Challenger'' disaster, which happened in early 1986. ** 1986. This was the result of adding the "1985" title after most of the film had been completed, as a way of setting it before a number of insider-trading scandals that had unfolded over the time the film was made. made. * SatelliteLoveInterest: Darien Taylor. The role earned Creator/DarylHannah that year's UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Supporting Actress, thus making this the only film to ever win both an [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar]] and a Razzie.\n** Oliver Stone even said he considered trading her with Sean Young, who plays Gekko's wife. Considering that Hannah later admitted her performance suffered because she disliked playing such a shallow character, and Young ended up stealing the costumes she wore after production wrapped because her part wasn't as big as she thought it would be, Stone probably should have.

---> '''Bud Fox''': What I see is a jealous old machinist who can't stand the fact that his son has become more successful than he has! ---> '''Carl Fox''': What you see is a guy who never measured a man's success by the size of his [[SuddenlyShouting WALLET]]!
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---> '''Bud -->'''Bud Fox''': What I see is a jealous old machinist who can't stand the fact that his son has become more successful than he has! ---> has!\\ '''Carl Fox''': What you see is a guy who never measured a man's success by the size of his [[SuddenlyShouting WALLET]]! ''wallet!''

* StatusCellPhone: Gordon has an extravagant, top-of-the-the-line, and brick-sized cell phone. This is used as a TechnologyMarchesOn gag in the sequel 'Money Never Sleeps' when he [[spoiler: is released from prison]] and gets said phone, now obsolete, returned to him.
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* StatusCellPhone: Gordon has an extravagant, top-of-the-the-line, and brick-sized cell phone. This is used as a TechnologyMarchesOn gag in the sequel 'Money Never Sleeps' when he [[spoiler: is released from prison]] and gets said phone, now obsolete, returned to him.
23rd Aug '15 10:11:06 AM RaiderDuck
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: When Gekko asks Fox to follow Lawrence Wildman around, Fox complains that he could lose his license and/or go to jail. In reality, there's nothing illegal about following someone around and noting that he ate lunch in a public restaurant with other people, as this is all publicly observable information. It would only be illegal if Fox was menacing Wildman in some way, and Fox tries ''not'' to be noticed by Wildman or anyone with him. The first illegal act Fox commits is searching his Roger's law firm's records (under the ruse of co-owning the cleaning company) and making copies of them for Gekko.
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: When Gekko asks Fox to follow Lawrence Wildman around, Fox complains that he could lose his license and/or go to jail. In reality, there's nothing illegal about following someone around and noting that he ate lunch in a public restaurant with other people, as this is all publicly observable information. It would only be illegal if Fox was menacing Wildman in some way, and Fox tries ''not'' to be noticed by Wildman or anyone with him. The first illegal act Fox commits is searching his Roger's law firm's records (under the ruse of co-owning the cleaning company) and making copies of them for Gekko.
23rd Aug '15 10:10:11 AM RaiderDuck
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* ArtisticLicenseLaw: When Gekko asks Fox to follow Lawrence Wildman around, Fox complains that he could lose his license and/or go to jail. In reality, there's nothing illegal about following someone around and noting that he ate lunch in a public restaurant with other people, as this is all publicly observable information. It would only be illegal if Fox was menacing Wildman in some way, and Fox tries ''not'' to be noticed by Wildman or anyone with him. The first illegal act Fox commits is searching his Roger's law firm's records (under the ruse of co-owning the cleaning company) and making copies of them for Gekko.

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: In particular, technology and the lifestyles of the wealthy seem to change more noticeably than other things do. Arguably, this is {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d in the first scene of the sequel, when Gekko gets back his [[TechnologyMarchesOn enormous cell phone]].

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Stone had written a subplot involving Fox having an affair with Gekko's wife (which would have explained Gekko's anger towards Fox in their final confrontation), but had to abandon it due to Charlie Sheen and Sean Young's hatred of each other (to the point where Sheen wrote "''I am a c**t''" on a piece of paper and surreptitiously stuck it on her back).
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Stone had written a subplot involving Fox having an affair with Gekko's wife (which would have explained Gekko's anger towards Fox in their final confrontation), but had to abandon it due to Charlie Sheen and Sean Young's hatred of each other (to the point where Sheen wrote "''I am a c**t''" on a piece of paper and surreptitiously stuck it on her back).
23rd Aug '15 9:51:13 AM RaiderDuck
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* VictoryIsBoring: After winning the takeover battle, Gordon complains about how difficult it has been to turn around Teldar even after he's fired most of the management. For that reason he initially rebuffs Bud's suggestion that he buy and turn around BlueStar.
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* VictoryIsBoring: After winning the takeover battle, Gordon complains about how difficult it has been to turn around Teldar even after he's fired most of the management. For that reason he initially rebuffs Bud's suggestion that he buy and turn around BlueStar. [=BlueStar=]. * WhatCouldHaveBeen: Stone had written a subplot involving Fox having an affair with Gekko's wife (which would have explained Gekko's anger towards Fox in their final confrontation), but had to abandon it due to Charlie Sheen and Sean Young's hatred of each other (to the point where Sheen wrote "''I am a c**t''" on a piece of paper and surreptitiously stuck it on her back).
19th Aug '15 8:16:20 AM redandready45
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8th Jun '15 10:02:35 PM redandready45
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* ScrewTheMoneyIHaveRules: ---> '''Bud Fox''': What I see is a jealous old machinist who can't stand the fact that his son has become more successful than he has! ---> '''Carl Fox''': What you see is a guy who never measured a man's success by the size of his [[SuddenlyShouting WALLET]]!
20th May '15 5:44:25 PM nombretomado
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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Darien Taylor. The role earned Creator/DarylHannah that year's UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Supporting Actress, thus making this the only film to ever win both an [[{{AcademyAward}} Oscar]] and a Razzie.
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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Darien Taylor. The role earned Creator/DarylHannah that year's UsefulNotes/GoldenRaspberryAward for Worst Supporting Actress, thus making this the only film to ever win both an [[{{AcademyAward}} [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar]] and a Razzie.
20th May '15 5:43:54 PM nombretomado
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''Wall Street'' is a 1987 movie directed by Creator/OliverStone and starring Creator/MichaelDouglas (in an [[AcademyAward Oscar]]-winning performance) and Creator/CharlieSheen.
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''Wall Street'' is a 1987 movie directed by Creator/OliverStone and starring Creator/MichaelDouglas (in an [[AcademyAward [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar]]-winning performance) and Creator/CharlieSheen.

* AcademyAward: Michael Douglas won the 1987 Oscar for Best Actor for his work on the film.
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* AcademyAward: UsefulNotes/AcademyAward: Michael Douglas won the 1987 Oscar for Best Actor for his work on the film.
16th Apr '15 8:01:41 AM Morgenthaler
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Split the sequel to a new work page.
A sequel, ''Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps'' (also directed by Stone) starring Douglas and ShiaLaBeouf was released on September 24, 2010.
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A sequel, ''Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps'' (also directed by Stone) starring Douglas and ShiaLaBeouf was released on September 24, 2010. It received a sequel in 2010, ''Film/WallStreetMoneyNeverSleeps''.

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[[folder: Wallstreet]]

[[/folder]] !! "Tropes Never Sleep": [[folder: Wallstreet: Money Never Sleeps]] * AdvertisingCampaigns: During the original airing of the pilot of ''Series/ShitMyDadSays'' (Written as "$#*! My Dad Says"), special ads for ''Money Never Sleeps'' - which would open the next day - were headlined "$#*! Gordon Gekko Says". * AntiHero: Gordon morphs into this the sequel. * AsHimself: The movie features not only famous person lookalikes, but also several people playing themselves, including Warren Buffet. * BatmanGambit: Gorgon Gekko's plans * DeadGuyJunior: Happy Birthday, [[spoiler:Louie!]] * DemotedToExtra: Bud, the protagonist of the first movie, appears in exactly one scene. * DisproportionateRetribution: Gordon spent over 11 years in prison for a "victimless" crime. That's twice as long as what most ''rapists'' get! ** This is questionable, given the far-reaching consequences of white collar crime. Yes, its punished as a light offense, but in the real world the implications can be staggering. *** Gordon's crime was specifically insider trading, though. Which is ironic since we see him do many unethical things which were (and still are) entirely legal in the original ''Wallstreet.'' Still, Gordon's sentence seems unusually harsh given the criminal activity of his much-worse peers (who served as character witnesses AGAINST him). ** It's revealed that what happens [[spoiler: to Louis Zabel's firm was revenge by Bretton James when Louis refused to help with a deal gone sour eight years earlier. While Bretton was able to recover from that, his revenge was tanking Zabel's company altogether and creating a global financial panic in the process.]] * DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Louis Zabel (Jake's mentor), 20 minutes into the movie.]] * EnemyMine: Gordon Gekko and Jake Moore team up against Bretton James, a thoroughly despicable stock gambler who has wronged them both. * {{Expy}}: Churchill Schwartz is a very, very obvious {{Expy}} of Goldman Sachs, right down to the article Jake Moore writes about them, the excerpt of which we see is literally taken word-for-word from Matt Taibbi's ''Rolling Stone'' now-classic [[http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405 article]] about Goldman Sachs with only the names changed. Bretton James is also pretty obviously heavily influenced by [=JPMorgan=] Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, although going so far as to call him an Expy is probably stretching it. * EvenEvilHasStandards: Played with. Gordon Gecko rebuilds his reputation on Wall Street by serving as a ''reformed'' lecturer on corporate ethics. Whether or not he is sincere in his changed attitude is anyone's guess until the end. [[spoiler: He is, sort of.]] ** Gordon seems to draw the line at defrauding clients versus the insider trading and company liquidation he was guilty of in the first movie. [[spoiler: played with as he defrauds his prospective son-in-law/student only to pay him back with interest at the end.]] * GoodColorsEvilColors: All of the characters wear suits in morally ambiguous shades of grey. The villain, Bretton James, wears a demonic red suit. * HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: Gekko goes 360 degrees in his hero-or-villain status. ** See YMMV Alternate Character Interpretation for a possibly consistent reading of his character. * ManipulativeBastard: Gordon Gekko, who else? * NeverASelfMadeWoman: One of the more extreme examples, where neither Jake nor Gekko take any of Winnie's values or opinions into consideration - her only purpose it to serve as a leverage for their "trading". * SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer: Josh Brolin. [[NeverTrustATrailer The trailers give off the impression]] that Gordon is once again the BigBad, rather than the AntiVillain he has become. ** Susan Sarandon plays Jake's mother, with a subplot devoted to Jake bailing out her failing real estate business. * ShoutOut: The subplot with the Cracker Jack ring references ''Film/BreakfastAtTiffanys''. * TheSocialDarwinist: Gordon Gekko ** Subverted. Gordon seems repulsed by the outright criminal behavior of modern Wall Street. * SmugSnake: Bretton James, who gives even a guy called Gordon Gekko [[{{Pun}} a run for his money]]. * SnicketWarningLabel: Inverted in ''Money Never Sleeps''. If you turn off the film about five minutes before the end credits roll, it's a DownerEnding: [[spoiler:Gordon Gekko reminds us all why he's a quintessential MagnificentBastard by winning the Financial Crisis of 2008, and everyone else gets screwed over, whether they deserve to or not]]. Keep watching the last five minutes, however, and for no adequately explained reason everything resolves itself into a perfectly happy ending for everyone involved. [[note]]that's why it's on this page rather than the main one[[/note]] * StealthPun: Before Jake tries to get revenge against Bretton James for destroying Zabel's company, his friend Robby comments that "It's a dish you stick to [[BestServedCold cold]], pal." Jake responds that "I'm about to serve it up hot, Robby." However, his initial efforts achieve only paltry success. Much later, though, he finally manages to get true revenge against Bretton -- [[spoiler:with the help of a website called ''Frozen'' Truth.]] * TechnologyMarchesOn: There's a gag when Gordon, leaving prison, is given his old (formerly extravagant and top of the line) brick-sized cell phone back (it's one of the trailers for the movie). ** Also, when one considers that 'Wall Street' ''itself'' no longer exists, as it has traditionally been understood. Trading is no longer the province of a few stock brokers in New York City, but is considerably decentralized and personal, thanks to the Internet. So, Finance Marches On, perhaps. ** Overlaps with SocietyMarchesOn. As he's leaving prison, Gordon sees an inmate be greeted by his family in a limousine. What was once an icon of status and wealth is now accessible to the common man.[[/folder]]
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[[/folder]] !! "Tropes Never Sleep": [[folder: Wallstreet: Money Never Sleeps]] * AdvertisingCampaigns: During the original airing of the pilot of ''Series/ShitMyDadSays'' (Written as "$#*! My Dad Says"), special ads for ''Money Never Sleeps'' - which would open the next day - were headlined "$#*! Gordon Gekko Says". * AntiHero: Gordon morphs into this the sequel. * AsHimself: The movie features not only famous person lookalikes, but also several people playing themselves, including Warren Buffet. * BatmanGambit: Gorgon Gekko's plans * DeadGuyJunior: Happy Birthday, [[spoiler:Louie!]] * DemotedToExtra: Bud, the protagonist of the first movie, appears in exactly one scene. * DisproportionateRetribution: Gordon spent over 11 years in prison for a "victimless" crime. That's twice as long as what most ''rapists'' get! ** This is questionable, given the far-reaching consequences of white collar crime. Yes, its punished as a light offense, but in the real world the implications can be staggering. *** Gordon's crime was specifically insider trading, though. Which is ironic since we see him do many unethical things which were (and still are) entirely legal in the original ''Wallstreet.'' Still, Gordon's sentence seems unusually harsh given the criminal activity of his much-worse peers (who served as character witnesses AGAINST him). ** It's revealed that what happens [[spoiler: to Louis Zabel's firm was revenge by Bretton James when Louis refused to help with a deal gone sour eight years earlier. While Bretton was able to recover from that, his revenge was tanking Zabel's company altogether and creating a global financial panic in the process.]] * DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Louis Zabel (Jake's mentor), 20 minutes into the movie.]] * EnemyMine: Gordon Gekko and Jake Moore team up against Bretton James, a thoroughly despicable stock gambler who has wronged them both. * {{Expy}}: Churchill Schwartz is a very, very obvious {{Expy}} of Goldman Sachs, right down to the article Jake Moore writes about them, the excerpt of which we see is literally taken word-for-word from Matt Taibbi's ''Rolling Stone'' now-classic [[http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405 article]] about Goldman Sachs with only the names changed. Bretton James is also pretty obviously heavily influenced by [=JPMorgan=] Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, although going so far as to call him an Expy is probably stretching it. * EvenEvilHasStandards: Played with. Gordon Gecko rebuilds his reputation on Wall Street by serving as a ''reformed'' lecturer on corporate ethics. Whether or not he is sincere in his changed attitude is anyone's guess until the end. [[spoiler: He is, sort of.]] ** Gordon seems to draw the line at defrauding clients versus the insider trading and company liquidation he was guilty of in the first movie. [[spoiler: played with as he defrauds his prospective son-in-law/student only to pay him back with interest at the end.]] * GoodColorsEvilColors: All of the characters wear suits in morally ambiguous shades of grey. The villain, Bretton James, wears a demonic red suit. * HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: Gekko goes 360 degrees in his hero-or-villain status. ** See YMMV Alternate Character Interpretation for a possibly consistent reading of his character. * ManipulativeBastard: Gordon Gekko, who else? * NeverASelfMadeWoman: One of the more extreme examples, where neither Jake nor Gekko take any of Winnie's values or opinions into consideration - her only purpose it to serve as a leverage for their "trading". * SirNotAppearingInThisTrailer: Josh Brolin. [[NeverTrustATrailer The trailers give off the impression]] that Gordon is once again the BigBad, rather than the AntiVillain he has become. ** Susan Sarandon plays Jake's mother, with a subplot devoted to Jake bailing out her failing real estate business. * ShoutOut: The subplot with the Cracker Jack ring references ''Film/BreakfastAtTiffanys''. * TheSocialDarwinist: Gordon Gekko ** Subverted. Gordon seems repulsed by the outright criminal behavior of modern Wall Street. * SmugSnake: Bretton James, who gives even a guy called Gordon Gekko [[{{Pun}} a run for his money]]. * SnicketWarningLabel: Inverted in ''Money Never Sleeps''. If you turn off the film about five minutes before the end credits roll, it's a DownerEnding: [[spoiler:Gordon Gekko reminds us all why he's a quintessential MagnificentBastard by winning the Financial Crisis of 2008, and everyone else gets screwed over, whether they deserve to or not]]. Keep watching the last five minutes, however, and for no adequately explained reason everything resolves itself into a perfectly happy ending for everyone involved. [[note]]that's why it's on this page rather than the main one[[/note]] * StealthPun: Before Jake tries to get revenge against Bretton James for destroying Zabel's company, his friend Robby comments that "It's a dish you stick to [[BestServedCold cold]], pal." Jake responds that "I'm about to serve it up hot, Robby." However, his initial efforts achieve only paltry success. Much later, though, he finally manages to get true revenge against Bretton -- [[spoiler:with the help of a website called ''Frozen'' Truth.]] * TechnologyMarchesOn: There's a gag when Gordon, leaving prison, is given his old (formerly extravagant and top of the line) brick-sized cell phone back (it's one of the trailers for the movie). ** Also, when one considers that 'Wall Street' ''itself'' no longer exists, as it has traditionally been understood. Trading is no longer the province of a few stock brokers in New York City, but is considerably decentralized and personal, thanks to the Internet. So, Finance Marches On, perhaps. ** Overlaps with SocietyMarchesOn. As he's leaving prison, Gordon sees an inmate be greeted by his family in a limousine. What was once an icon of status and wealth is now accessible to the common man.[[/folder]]
31st Mar '15 11:28:43 AM Morgenthaler
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A sequel, ''WallStreetMoneyNeverSleeps'' (also directed by Stone) starring Douglas and ShiaLaBeouf was released on September 24, 2010.
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A sequel, ''WallStreetMoneyNeverSleeps'' ''Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps'' (also directed by Stone) starring Douglas and ShiaLaBeouf was released on September 24, 2010.
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