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14th Dec '15 3:37:11 AM TheGreenHerring
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* ExecutiveMeddling: In-universe. The top brass change their minds several times about what kind of performance/armament they want the Bradley to have, often in mid-design. Causing [[DevelopmentHell major delays]] and budget overruns. Even worse, they tend to criticize the ''very features they requested previously'', i.e. demanding a larger gun, and then complaining that it gives the vehicle a tank-like silhouette and will ''encourage'' the enemy to target it first.
-->'''Designer:''' " Do you want me to put a sign on it in fifty languages, "I am a troop carrier, not a tank, please don't shoot at me"?"



--> "General, were you for or against the Major's testing regimen?"
--> "Absolutely not."
--> "Absolutely not, yes? Or absolutely not, no?"
--> "Absolutely not, absolutely."
* ExecutiveMeddling: In-universe. The top brass change their minds several times about what kind of performance/armament they want the Bradley to have, often in mid-design. Causing [[DevelopmentHell major delays]] and budget overruns. Even worse, they tend to criticize the ''very features they requested previously'', i.e. demanding a larger gun, and then complaining that it gives the vehicle a tank-like silhouette and will ''encourage'' the enemy to target it first.
-->'''Designer:''' " Do you want me to put a sign on it in fifty languages, "I am a troop carrier, not a tank, please don't shoot at me"?"

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--> "General, were you for or against the Major's testing regimen?"
-->
regimen?"\\
"Absolutely not."\\
"Absolutely not, yes? Or absolutely not, no?"\\
"Absolutely not, absolutely.
"
--> "Absolutely not, yes? Or absolutely not, no?"
--> "Absolutely not, absolutely."
* ExecutiveMeddling: In-universe. The top brass change their minds several times about what kind of performance/armament they want the Bradley to have, often in mid-design. Causing [[DevelopmentHell major delays]] and budget overruns. Even worse, they tend to criticize the ''very features they requested previously'', i.e. demanding a larger gun, and then complaining that it gives the vehicle a tank-like silhouette and will ''encourage'' the enemy to target it first.
-->'''Designer:''' " Do you want me to put a sign on it in fifty languages, "I am a troop carrier, not a tank, please don't shoot at me"?"
TheFilmOfTheBook: Of ''The Pentagon Wars'' by USAF Colonel James G. Burton.
11th Nov '15 7:52:42 AM Morgenthaler
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* YanksWithTanks: The US Army and Air Force play large roles in the film. Viewers can even see the odd [[SemperFi Marine]] or two as well.

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* YanksWithTanks: The US Army and Air Force play large roles in the film. Viewers can even see the odd [[SemperFi Marine]] or two as well.----
4th Sep '15 5:32:27 PM HouraiRabbit
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: The enlisted men display a great degree of cynicism towards Burton because a neverending cycle of officers just like him have come through and ultimately decide to play the game because they want their promotion.
2nd Sep '15 6:29:21 PM marcoasalazarm
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* TankGoodness: Averted to high heaven with the Bradley.



* YanksWithTanks: The US Army and Air Force play large roles in the film. Viewers can even see the odd [[SemperFi Marine]] or two as well.

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* YanksWithTanks: The US Army and Air Force play large roles in the film. Viewers can even see the odd [[SemperFi Marine]] or two as well.
28th Aug '15 9:04:10 AM HouraiRabbit
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* SoldiersAtTheRear: Burton uses the story of the M-16 to accuse the enlisted men working on the Bradley of not caring because they never knew anyone who died because of defective equipment. This is [[InvokedTrope deliberate]] however; as enlisted men, a lot of them probably ''did'' have close friends who died in combat because of defective equipment and Burton knows this.
28th Aug '15 8:48:39 AM HouraiRabbit
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* UndisclosedFunds: Averted - $14 Billion, with a "B".

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* TruthInTelevision: The kind of problems satirized here happen in any large bureaucracy. Nobody wants to tell the truth because it would make them look inefficient by comparison and essentially end their careers.
* UndisclosedFunds: Averted - $14 Billion, with a "B".
28th Aug '15 8:43:19 AM HouraiRabbit
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* BeleagueredBureaucrat: Col. Smith, everytime the Generals above him demand a change to the Bradley's design.

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* BeleagueredBureaucrat: Col. Smith, everytime every time the Generals above him demand a change to the Bradley's design.



* CorruptBureaucrat: The majority of the officers involved in weapons testing are portrayed as careerists perpetuating an absurd system to ensure their promotion to General and guarantee lucrative jobs in the defense industry once they retire. Even General Smith, who was initially portrayed with some sympathy as the Bradley's original designer, ultimately played the game and refuses to help Burton more directly because he has too much to lose.



* InsaneTrollLogic: General Partridge's answers to the congressional hearings can be charitably called "disingenuous" and can more accurately be described as nonsensical.
* JurisdictionFriction: Partridge is Army, Burton is Air Force, and only "work" together because the Pentagon has decided to make weapons testing a joint operation.

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* InsaneTrollLogic: General Partridge's answers to the congressional hearings can be charitably called "disingenuous" and can more accurately be described as nonsensical.
* JurisdictionFriction: Partridge is Army, Burton is Air Force, and only "work" together because the Pentagon has decided to make weapons testing a joint operation. operation.
* LogicalFallacies: Partridge employs a number of techniques to misdirect people when he is forced to answer uncomfortable questions.
** AppealToConsequences: "We must not, will not, allow [enemies of the United States] to prevail for if we do, you can be certain that you and I and everyone else will never again enjoy the luxury of meeting in this building to debate anything!"
** CircularReasoning: "If the fuel tanks were filled with fuel, there's a good chance the vehicle would have exploded."[[note]]This is exactly the point, and one of the Senators points this out.[[/note]]
** InsaneTrollLogic: Starting with his opening monologue and continuing throughout the movie, Partridge frequently employs non-sequiturs to deflect attention from the issues being raised.
28th Aug '15 8:17:41 AM HouraiRabbit
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* ArmorPiercingQuestion: "Perhaps you'd like to tell us how much has been spent so far to develop the Bradley?"
7th Jun '15 6:02:55 PM C2
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* ExecutiveMeddling: The top brass change their minds several times about what kind of performance/armament they want the Bradley to have, often in mid-design. Causing [[DevelopmentHell major delays]] and budget overruns. Even worse, they tend to criticize the ''very features they requested previously'', i.e. demanding a larger gun, and then complaining that it gives the vehicle a tank-like silhouette and will ''encourage'' the enemy to target it first.

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* ExecutiveMeddling: In-universe. The top brass change their minds several times about what kind of performance/armament they want the Bradley to have, often in mid-design. Causing [[DevelopmentHell major delays]] and budget overruns. Even worse, they tend to criticize the ''very features they requested previously'', i.e. demanding a larger gun, and then complaining that it gives the vehicle a tank-like silhouette and will ''encourage'' the enemy to target it first.
11th Apr '15 11:58:53 PM LTR
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-->'''Designer''' " Do you want me to put a sign on it in fifty languages, "I am a troop carrier, not a tank, please don't shoot at me"?"

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-->'''Designer''' -->'''Designer:''' " Do you want me to put a sign on it in fifty languages, "I am a troop carrier, not a tank, please don't shoot at me"?"
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