History Film / TheLeagueOfExtraOrdinaryGentlemen

12th Jun '17 3:29:30 PM AmuckCricetine
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* AllThereInTheScript: Sawyer never gets his first name mentioned. When he first appears, he introduces himself as "Special Agent Sawyer of the American Secret Service," and for the remainder of the movie, all the other characters address him as Sawyer. His first name is used once in a deleted scene, which can be viewed on the DVD; going strictly by the theatrical release, unless you're GenreSavvy enough to work out his identity on your own, you'd never know he was Tom Sawyer.

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* AllThereInTheScript: AllThereInTheScript:
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Sawyer never gets his first name mentioned. When he first appears, he introduces himself as "Special Agent Sawyer of the American Secret Service," and for the remainder of the movie, all the other characters address him as Sawyer. His first name is used once in a deleted scene, which can be viewed on the DVD; going strictly by the theatrical release, unless you're GenreSavvy enough to work out his identity on your own, you'd never know he was Tom Sawyer.Sawyer.
** In the original script, it is revealed at the end, that Skinner is actually an agent for British Intelligence. He was working undercover to see if Sanderson Reed was actually a double-agent working for the Fantom.
13th May '17 11:04:37 AM nombretomado
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* AdaptationDistillation: The whole FuManchu story arc had to be dropped because the studio couldn't get the rights to the character. The major characters' backstories are seemingly moved around (or not shown at all). And new major characters join the cast who were, at most, background characters or cameos in the original comics.

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* AdaptationDistillation: The whole FuManchu Literature/FuManchu story arc had to be dropped because the studio couldn't get the rights to the character. The major characters' backstories are seemingly moved around (or not shown at all). And new major characters join the cast who were, at most, background characters or cameos in the original comics.
3rd Feb '17 11:29:32 AM StFan
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* CompositeCharacter: The Fantom. With his name spelled with a "F" and his penchant for global terrorism, he appears as the pulp villain Fantomas. Yet he wears a mask resembling the Phantom of the Opera, which Quatermain lampshades. Likely this is because the Phantom is much more widely known by today's audiences than Fantomas.

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* CompositeCharacter: The Fantom. With his name spelled with a "F" and his penchant for global terrorism, he appears as the pulp villain Fantomas.Fantômas. Yet he wears a mask resembling the Phantom of the Opera, which Quatermain lampshades. Likely this is because the Phantom is much more widely known by today's audiences than Fantomas.Fantômas.



* OohMeAccentsSlipping: When the Fantom confronts the League, he speaks with a much different accent than the one he used to talk with at the very beginning of the movie. It's both an allusion to how he was partially inspired by MasterOfDisguise {{Fantomas}} and foreshadowing that [[spoiler:he's neither French nor Russian, but British.]]

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* OohMeAccentsSlipping: When the Fantom confronts the League, he speaks with a much different accent than the one he used to talk with at the very beginning of the movie. It's both an allusion to how he was partially inspired by MasterOfDisguise {{Fantomas}} Literature/{{Fantomas}} and foreshadowing that [[spoiler:he's neither French nor Russian, but British.]]
29th Jan '17 10:37:20 AM StarSword
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* ComplexityAddiction: Much of the Fantom's actions and inactions can be excused in some way or another given the shrewd and paranoid crowd [[spoiler:whose secrets he wants to steal.]] Caution is required in those cases. [[spoiler:But letting Skinner live to act as a potential scapegoat for Dorian's espionage not only proves to be instrumental to his undoing, but largely excessive, as all he needed to take from him was a skin sample and he all ready had him in his custody for quite some time.]]

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* ComplexityAddiction: Much of the Fantom's actions and inactions can be excused in some way or another given the shrewd and paranoid crowd [[spoiler:whose secrets he wants to steal.]] steal]]. Caution is required in those cases. [[spoiler:But letting Skinner live to act as a potential scapegoat for Dorian's espionage not only proves to be instrumental to his undoing, but largely excessive, as all he needed to take from him was a skin sample and he all ready already had him in his custody for quite some time.]]



* NotHisSled: [[spoiler: The Invisible Man is heavily hinted to be a traitor, but this turns out to be a RedHerring; the real traitor is Dorian Gray.]]

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* NotHisSled: [[spoiler: The Invisible Man is heavily hinted to be a traitor, traitor (as he was for the Martians in the comic books), but this turns out to be a RedHerring; the real traitor is Dorian Gray.]]



** During the battle inside the fortress, the Fantem's TheDragon drinks an overdose of Jekyll's formula. He later hits both Hyde and Captain Nemo and knocks them a long way into walls.

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** During the battle inside the fortress, the Fantem's Fantom's TheDragon drinks an overdose of Jekyll's formula. He later hits both Hyde and Captain Nemo and knocks them a long way into walls.



* RedHerring: In one scene, Mina and Quatermain spot Nemo praying to a statue of Kali, the Goddess of Destruction, which worries Mina. Quatermain reassures her, saying that Nemo isn't the one who should worry them.

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* RedHerring: RedHerring:
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In one scene, Mina and Quatermain spot Nemo praying to a statue of Kali, the Goddess of Destruction, which worries Mina. Quatermain reassures her, saying that Nemo isn't the one who should worry them.them.
** Skinner spends much of his time sneaking around the ship invisible between action sequences and is immediately assumed to be TheMole. [[spoiler:Actually, it was Dorian. Skinner instead manages to put one over on ''him'', stowing away aboard the minisub that Dorian steals and leading the League straight to the Fantom's headquarters.]]



'''Quatermain''': Please tell me that this is ''Mrs.'' Harker , with a sick note!\\
'''Mina''': "Sick" would be a mild understatement. My husband's been dead for years.

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'''Quatermain''': '''Quatermain:''' Please tell me that this is ''Mrs.'' Harker , Harker's ''wife'', with a sick note!\\
'''Mina''': '''Mina:''' "Sick" would be a mild understatement. My husband's been dead for years.



** Subverted with the Invisible Man. Griffin is said to have died before the League got a chance to recruit him, whereas the book states that he faked his supposed death at the end of [[TheInvisibleMan Wells' novel]]. But Skinner, who takes Griffin's place, survives until the end of the movie, whereas Griffin was killed by Hyde in the second volume of the comics.

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** Subverted with the Invisible Man. Griffin is said to have died before the League got a chance to recruit him, whereas the book states that he faked his supposed death at the end of [[TheInvisibleMan [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan Wells' novel]]. But Skinner, who takes Griffin's place, survives until the end of the movie, whereas Griffin was killed by Hyde in the second volume of the comics.


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* YouAreTooLate: After TheReveal and his escape, TheMole leaves behind a record of himself and the Fantom explaining their EvilPlan to the remaining League members. [[spoiler:Then the Fantom explains that there's a secondary sound on the record that has triggered bombs planted throughout ''Nautilus'' (Jekyll and Hyde were able to hear it early on), which go off and nearly sink her but for Hyde managing to trigger an emergency blow, surfacing the sub.]]
28th Jan '17 7:44:57 PM StarSword
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* ActionGirl: Mina, being a full-blooded vampire in this version, is right up there with Hyde as the most physically lethal member of the League.
19th Jan '17 9:08:27 AM Homemaderat
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* AdaptationalBadass
** Quatermain is a BadassGrandpa who's every bit the GreatWhiteHunter that he was when he was younger, but in the comics was introduced as a burned-out opium addict.
** Here, Mina retains vampiric abilities from her past encounter with Dracula; in the comics she was a BadassNormal whose defining feature was her mysterious DarkAndTroubledPast.

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* AdaptationalBadass
AdaptationalBadass:
** Quatermain is a BadassGrandpa who's every bit the GreatWhiteHunter that he was when he was younger, but in the comics was introduced as a burned-out opium addict.
addict. This being DarkerAndEdgier than the source, where Quatermain becomes more human throughout the series but never to the lows he is in the comics.
** Here, Mina retains vampiric abilities from her past encounter with Dracula; in the comics she was a BadassNormal whose defining feature was her mysterious DarkAndTroubledPast. Mina's mental skills and leadership capability is zig-zagged between Dracula, comics and film. Although she does gain new chemist skills in this film as well.



** Cleverly subverted in with Griffin the Invisible Man. In both the comic and [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan source material]] he was a sociopathic murderer. Since the movie was going for a LighterAndSofter approach, they made this into a twist; the Invisible Man in the film is revealed to actually be Skinner, a thief who stole some of Griffin's invisibility serum and was turned transparent like him. Thus the original character is left intact while the audience doesn't have to stomach having a rapist on the same team as the heroes.

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** Cleverly subverted in with Griffin the Invisible Man. In both the comic and [[Literature/TheInvisibleMan source material]] he was a sociopathic murderer. As normal per Moore the comics upped him to rapist as well. Since the movie was going for a LighterAndSofter approach, they made this into a twist; the Invisible Man in the film is revealed to actually be Skinner, a thief who stole some of Griffin's invisibility serum and was turned transparent like him. Thus the original character is left intact while the audience doesn't have to stomach having a rapist Griffin on the same team as the heroes.



* AnachronismStew: All over the place. In the first scenes alone, for instance, the British soldiers being attacked are straight out of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI rather than 1899. And that isn't counting Nemo's automobile, which wouldn't look too much out of place in the 1920s-30s.

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* AnachronismStew: All over the place. In the first scenes alone, for instance, the British soldiers being attacked are straight out of UsefulNotes/WorldWarI rather than 1899. And that isn't counting Nemo's automobile, which wouldn't look too much out of place in the 1920s-30s. It is best to assume the fiction being true part has lead to some alternate history, as we could just keep going with examples that otherwise make no sense.



** While Hawley Griffin was a rapist and murderer, his replacement Skinner is merely a cheerful, mischievous sneak thief.
** There's also the fact that in the books, Mina is both divorced from Jonathan Harker and TheLeader of the team, whereas here, Allan Quartermain plays a very conventional male leader with Mina as a FemmeFatale vampire who is widowed rather than divorced. Also, in the comics, they engaged in a MayDecemberRomance which was probably too much ValuesDissonance for mainstream audiences.

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** While Compared to the comics, Hawley Griffin was a rapist and murderer, his replacement Skinner is merely a cheerful, mischievous sneak thief.
** There's also the fact that in the books, comics, Mina is both divorced from Jonathan Harker and TheLeader of the team, whereas here, Allan Quartermain plays a very conventional male leader with Mina as a FemmeFatale vampire who is widowed rather than divorced. Also, in the comics, they engaged in a MayDecemberRomance which was probably too much ValuesDissonance for mainstream audiences.



** Captain Nemo is also considerably more jovial and more of a team player, which is complete reversal from [[TeethClenchedTeamwork both the comic]] and Creator/JulesVerne's book in terms of [[{{Ubermensch}} personality]]. The film also foregrounds Jekyll, making Hyde out to be a (somewhat) more benign SuperpoweredAlterEgo who the doctor is able to control in the end.

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** Captain Nemo is also considerably more jovial and more of a team player, which is complete reversal from [[TeethClenchedTeamwork both the comic]] and Creator/JulesVerne's book in terms of [[{{Ubermensch}} personality]]. Nemo does get a little better after his VillainousBreakdown, but not to the extent he'd be this noble helping the empire.
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The film also foregrounds Jekyll, making Hyde out to be a (somewhat) more benign SuperpoweredAlterEgo who the doctor is able to control in the end.
16th Jan '17 1:25:05 AM Metacity
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* WomanInBlack: Mina continues to dress widow's weeds even though her husband Jonathan has been dead for years.
6th Jan '17 8:23:31 PM gjjones
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* BigDamnHeroes: Towards the end of the film, [[spoiler:Skinner helps Sawyer finish off the flamethrower, but he gets badly burned in the process]].



* InNameOnly: The comic book is a Victorian era CrisisCrossover, whereas the movie is an AlternateHistory {{Steampunk}} sci-fi thriller whose characters just happen to be lifted from books. Movie!League makes Quatermain the leader/hero instead of Mina, as well as adding Dorian Gray and Tom Sawyer (who weren't even ''mentioned'' in the books), replacing PsychoForHire Hawley Griffin with an invisible GentlemanThief, turning Quatermain from a burned-out opium addict to a {{Badass}} DeadpanSnarker, and making Mina a vampire.

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* InNameOnly: The comic book is a Victorian era CrisisCrossover, whereas the movie is an AlternateHistory {{Steampunk}} sci-fi thriller whose characters just happen to be lifted from books. Movie!League makes Quatermain the leader/hero instead of Mina, as well as adding Dorian Gray and Tom Sawyer (who weren't even ''mentioned'' in the books), replacing PsychoForHire Hawley Griffin with an invisible GentlemanThief, turning Quatermain from a burned-out opium addict to a {{Badass}} badass DeadpanSnarker, and making Mina a vampire.
3rd Jan '17 1:45:18 AM Arivne
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Added DiffLines:

** During the battle inside the fortress, the Fantem's TheDragon drinks an overdose of Jekyll's formula. He later hits both Hyde and Captain Nemo and knocks them a long way into walls.
3rd Jan '17 1:19:38 AM Arivne
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* AdaptationalBadass:

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* AdaptationalBadass: AdaptationalBadass



* AdaptationalHeroism:

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* AdaptationalHeroism:AdaptationalHeroism



* BadassLongcoat:

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* BadassLongcoat: BadassLongcoat



* {{Bowdlerise}}:

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* {{Bowdlerise}}: {{Bowdlerise}}



** Furthermore, the film has a more benign portrayal of British Intelligence, with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Moriarty as M]] being a kind of surprise; in the comics, the latter was always a British Agent whose criminal activities were knowingly enabled by the government.

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** Furthermore, the film has a more benign portrayal of British Intelligence, with TheReveal of [[spoiler:Moriarty as M]] being a kind of surprise; in the comics, the latter was always a British Agent agent whose criminal activities were knowingly enabled by the government.



* CanonForeigner:

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* CanonForeigner:CanonForeigner



* ChekhovsGun:

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* ChekhovsGun:ChekhovsGun



* DeadpanSnarker: Dorian; Quatermain; the BigBad gets in a bit of this too.
** And Skinner.
*** We'll be at this all day.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Dorian; Quatermain; the BigBad DeadpanSnarker
** Dorian and Quatermain regularly make quips. The DiabolicalMastermind
gets in a bit of this too.
** And Skinner.
*** We'll
Skinner. He's constantly making wisecracks.
-->We'll
be at this all day.



* DeathByAdaptation:

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* DeathByAdaptation:DeathByAdaptation



* FunPersonified: Skinner gives the impression of being this.
** Which is a bit jarring, considering his counterpart in the comics was a psychopathic murderer and rapist.

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* FunPersonified: Skinner gives the impression of being this. \n** Which is a bit jarring, considering his counterpart in the comics was a psychopathic murderer and rapist.



* IHaveYourWife:

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* IHaveYourWife:IHaveYourWife



* MythologyGag:

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* MythologyGag:MythologyGag



* QuicklyDemotedWoman: Mina's position as leader of the League in the comics is handed off to Quatermain instead. A possible subversion, however; she becomes the most powerful member of the cast, an immortal vampire.
** She could be considered [[TheLancer Second-in-command]], [[spoiler:or even the new leader following Quatermain's death]].

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* QuicklyDemotedWoman: Mina's position as leader of the League in the comics is handed off to Quatermain instead. A possible subversion, however; she becomes the most powerful member of the cast, an immortal vampire.
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vampire. She could be considered [[TheLancer Second-in-command]], [[spoiler:or even the new leader following Quatermain's death]].



* RedShirt:

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* RedShirt: RedShirt



* ReverseMole: They thought [[spoiler:Skinner]] was the mole. They thought wrong. He was spying on the real one.
** In the novelization , it turns out that he's actually [[spoiler:a planted member of Her Majesty's Secret Service]]!
* RougeAnglesOfSatin:

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* ReverseMole: They thought [[spoiler:Skinner]] was the mole. They thought wrong. He was spying on the real one.
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one. In the novelization , it turns out that he's actually [[spoiler:a planted member of Her Majesty's Secret Service]]!
* RougeAnglesOfSatin:RougeAnglesOfSatin



* SchizoTech:

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* SchizoTech:SchizoTech



* SequelHook: The MeaningfulFuneral ends with [[spoiler:a native witch doctor doing...something that makes the ground shake, lightning crash across the sky, and the clouds to turn dark. This was probably meant to be Quatermain coming back from the dead.]] However, according to Jason Flemyng, the sequel will probably never happen because Connery doesn't want to do it. That and he's retired from acting.
** The film's box office performance didn't help.
*** To some people, though, this should be better explained. Talking just pure budget money, the film very much succeeded in recouping that cost. However, all reports clearly show that the studio wanted more. This in metaphor is like wanting an "A" in school and getting a "C". Sure, you passed, but you are still highly disappointed. And that kind of reaction surely doesn't help anyone want to fund another big budget action sequel.

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* SequelHook: SequelHook
**
The MeaningfulFuneral ends with [[spoiler:a native witch doctor doing...something that makes the ground shake, lightning crash across the sky, and the clouds to turn dark. This was probably meant to be Quatermain coming back from the dead.]] However, according to Jason Flemyng, the sequel will probably never happen because Connery doesn't want to do it. That and he's retired from acting.
**
acting. The film's box office performance didn't help.
***
help. To some people, though, this should be better explained. Talking just pure budget money, the film very much succeeded in recouping that cost. However, all reports clearly show that the studio wanted more. This in metaphor is like wanting an "A" in school and getting a "C". Sure, you passed, but you are still highly disappointed. And that kind of reaction surely doesn't help anyone want to fund another big budget action sequel.



* ShoutOut:

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut



* SparedByTheAdaptation: Hyde.

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* SparedByTheAdaptation: Hyde.SparedByTheAdaptation
** Hyde dies in the original comic.



* WeCanRuleTogether: The BigBad makes an offer of this sort, to TheMole, who declines. It's something of a subversion of the trope, however; he doesn't refuse because he's a good guy (he's ''definitely'' not). He just doesn't want to be bothered, and would quite like to return to his old life.
** Another reason he refuses is because [[spoiler:he's seen empires come and go in his long life]], so he isn't interested. The BigBad is not happy with his decision, accusing him of thinking he's better than the BigBad.

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* WeCanRuleTogether: The BigBad makes an offer of this sort, to TheMole, who declines. It's something of a subversion of the trope, however; he doesn't refuse because he's a good guy (he's ''definitely'' not). He just doesn't want to be bothered, and would quite like to return to his old life.
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life. Another reason he refuses is because [[spoiler:he's seen empires come and go in his long life]], so he isn't interested. The BigBad is not happy with his decision, accusing him of thinking he's better than the BigBad.



* YoungGun: Tom Sawyer. At first glance, this makes no sense; Tom Sawyer was a twelve-year old in the pre-Civil War era, so if anything, he should be ''older'' than Quatermain. The producer uses ComicBookTime to justify this by pointing out that Tom was only 17 years old in ''Tom Sawyer, Detective'', which was published just a few years prior to the time period of the film's setting.
** It does bring up a notable problem, though, with the theory of all fiction being real. There's many books that don't ever give specific dates, and in some series time doesn't always flow to match the real world to the inside world. Mark Twain certainly did not take this as seriously as Alan Moore does. And when you get down to it, because of issues such as this, no matter who is writing a story of this type, at some point they are just going to have to HandWave certain things.

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* YoungGun: Tom Sawyer. At first glance, this makes no sense; Tom Sawyer was a twelve-year old in the pre-Civil War era, so if anything, he should be ''older'' than Quatermain. The producer uses ComicBookTime to justify this by pointing out that Tom was only 17 years old in ''Tom Sawyer, Detective'', which was published just a few years prior to the time period of the film's setting.
**
setting. It does bring up a notable problem, though, with the theory of all fiction being real. There's many books that don't ever give specific dates, and in some series time doesn't always flow to match the real world to the inside world. Mark Twain certainly did not take this as seriously as Alan Moore does. And when you get down to it, because of issues such as this, no matter who is writing a story of this type, at some point they are just going to have to HandWave certain things.
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