History Film / TheKingsSpeech

13th Aug '17 3:58:01 PM Handoftheking
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** [[spoiler: At his Accession Council, Bertie is struggling with his speech to the Privy Councillor, and he looks above their heads to a large portrait of Queen Victoria. Then around at all the other monarchs' portraits looking down at him, finishing with his own father.]]
11th Jul '17 10:07:56 PM BatmanKalEl
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** "Fuck. FUCK! Fuck, fuck, fuck AND FUCK! Fuck, fuck AND BUGGER! Bugger, bugger, BUGGERTY BUGGERTY BUGGERTY, shit, shit, ARSE! Balls, balls, FUCKITY, shit, shit, FUCK AND WILLY. WILLY, SHIT AND FUCK AND [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking tits]]."
** As pointed out above, this was cut out in order to release a recut version of the film that gathered a PG-13 rating.

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** "Fuck.-->"Fuck. FUCK! Fuck, fuck, fuck AND FUCK! Fuck, fuck AND BUGGER! Bugger, bugger, BUGGERTY BUGGERTY BUGGERTY, shit, shit, ARSE! Balls, balls, FUCKITY, shit, shit, FUCK AND WILLY. WILLY, SHIT AND FUCK AND [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking tits]]."
** As pointed out above, this was cut out in order to release a recut version of the film that gathered a PG-13 rating.
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11th Jul '17 10:06:14 PM BatmanKalEl
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* {{Bowdlerization}}: In order to maximize the film's profits, the film - an [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar-winning]] feature - was re-released in the United States with some content cut out to avoid an R rating. The recut film, released in theaters around and after the Oscars, had the PG-13 rating attached to it. (See Cluster F Bomb, below, for most of what got cut.)
** Critics and film buffs alike were not happy with these cuts - or even the initial R rating. Both situations were chiefly the result of the MPAA's refusal to give the original cut a PG-13 rating, despite other countries/regions giving the film their equivalent of the PG or PG-13 rating. When the film was shown uncut at the LA Film School, that scene was wildly applauded.

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* {{Bowdlerization}}: In order to maximize the film's profits, the film - an [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscar-winning]] feature - was re-released in the United States with some content cut out to avoid an R rating. The recut film, released in theaters around and after the Oscars, had the PG-13 rating attached to it. (See Cluster F Bomb, below, for most of what got cut.)
** Critics
) [[note]]Critics and film buffs alike were not happy with these cuts - or even the initial R rating. Both situations were chiefly the result of the MPAA's refusal to give the original cut a PG-13 rating, despite other countries/regions giving the film their equivalent of the PG or PG-13 rating. When the film was shown uncut at the LA Film School, that scene was wildly applauded.[[/note]]
5th Jul '17 1:50:07 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Logue is also able to tell Albert was born left handed, but trained to write with his right.
*** This has been known to cause problems, such as dyslexia and stuttering.
5th Jul '17 1:46:57 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Colin Firth, incidentally, looks ''nothing'' like real George VI, who actually looked quite like Guy Pearce.
*** Matter of fact, Firth looks more like real Lionel Logue.
5th Jul '17 1:46:05 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Edward VIII was widely (and not without some basis) believed to be a Nazi sympathizer. It was actually quite a popular position at the time.



** Edward VIII was widely (and not without some basis) believed to be a Nazi sympathizer. It was actually quite a popular position at the time.
5th Jul '17 1:45:06 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Deliberately invoked with Edward's casual comment about the troubles in Europe, "Hitler will sort it out." While it could be considered merely naive, to modern audiences, that statement feels positively horrific and despicable to see the King of England ''want'' Nazi Germany to begin its rampage of mass death and destruction.
** Edward VIII was widely (and not without some basis) believed to be a Nazi sympathizer. It was actually [[ValuesDissonance quite a popular position at the time]].

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** Deliberately invoked {{invoked}} with Edward's casual comment about the troubles in Europe, "Hitler will sort it out." While it could be considered merely naive, to modern audiences, that statement feels positively horrific and despicable to see the King of England ''want'' Nazi Germany to begin its rampage of mass death and destruction.
** Edward VIII was widely (and not without some basis) believed to be a Nazi sympathizer. It was actually [[ValuesDissonance quite a popular position at the time]].time.
5th Jul '17 1:43:20 PM BatmanKalEl
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** Also, the idea of Parliament making a big enough deal objecting to King Edward's wanting to marry his twice-divorced girlfriend to resign en masse over it seems an overreaction to a modern audience, but the fact that she was believed to be a German spy kind of justifies their threat.
*** Not to mention, the King of England is also the formal head of the Church of England, a church that at the time did not recognize this kind of divorce as legitimate, and so his intention to marry a twice-divorced woman was in direct contradiction to the church's doctrine. It seems silly from a modern perspective to make such a fuss over a divorce, but the king is not merely a head of state. For a modern comparison, consider what would happen if a newly elected pope came out of the closet.
*** On top of all that, it was widely believed she was just out for his money.

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** Also, the idea of Parliament making a big enough deal objecting to King Edward's wanting to marry his twice-divorced girlfriend to resign en masse over it seems an overreaction to a modern audience, but the fact that she was believed to be a German spy kind of justifies their threat.
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threat. Not to mention, the King of England is also the formal head of the Church of England, a church that at the time did not recognize this kind of divorce as legitimate, and so his intention to marry a twice-divorced woman was in direct contradiction to the church's doctrine. It seems silly from a modern perspective to make such a fuss over a divorce, but the king is not merely a head of state. For a modern comparison, consider what would happen if a newly elected pope came out of the closet.
*** On top of all that, it was widely believed she was just out for his money.
closet.
5th Jul '17 1:31:58 PM BatmanKalEl
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* BunnyEarsLawyer: Lionel Logue. [[spoiler:Hell, it turns out he's not even accredited or trained -- he just happened to be excellent at treating people with speech disorders when people kept asking him to treat [[ShellShockedVeteran Shell-Shocked Veterans]] from [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the Great War]]. As he points out, there weren't any schools then, just thousands of wounded veterans who needed his help. No wonder his treatment was so effective.]]
** This is mainly In-Universe. To his contemporaries, Logue's methods would have seemed bizarre or foolish, but to a modern audience they seem fairly straightforward. At the time, it seems, no-one except Logue would admit that psychology was involved in a speech disorder and by modern standards, the only other speech therapist that we see looks like a total quack.
*** In his defence, he never actually confirmed or said he ''was'' a doctor - Bertie and Elizabeth just assumed. He repeatedly told Bertie to refer to him simply as Lionel

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* BunnyEarsLawyer: Lionel Logue. [[spoiler:Hell, it turns out he's not even accredited or trained -- he just happened to be excellent at treating people with speech disorders when people kept asking him to treat [[ShellShockedVeteran Shell-Shocked Veterans]] from [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI the Great War]]. As he points out, there weren't any schools then, just thousands of wounded veterans who needed his help. No wonder his treatment was so effective.]]
** This
]] [[note]]This is mainly In-Universe. To his contemporaries, Logue's methods would have seemed bizarre or foolish, but to a modern audience they seem fairly straightforward. At the time, it seems, no-one except Logue would admit that psychology was involved in a speech disorder and by modern standards, the only other speech therapist that we see looks like a total quack.
*** In his defence, he never actually confirmed or said he ''was'' a doctor - Bertie and Elizabeth just assumed. He repeatedly told Bertie to refer to him simply as Lionel
quack.[[/note]]
13th Jun '17 2:37:55 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: George V references the two men who threaten the stability of Europe: [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Herr Hitler]] and [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Marshal Stalin]]. However, Stalin did not award himself the title of "Marshal" until World War II. At the time, he would have been referred to as "Comrade Stalin."

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: George V references the two men who threaten the stability of Europe: [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Herr Hitler]] and [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Marshal Stalin]]. However, Stalin did not award himself the title of "Marshal" until World War II.UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. At the time, he would have been referred to as "Comrade Stalin."
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