History Film / TheKingsSpeech

24th May '18 7:18:34 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* {{Jerkass}}: King Edward VIII, from what we see of him, is very rude towards Albert and more concerned with living the high life than with being a guiding voice for England. Also, he and Wallis were a pair of Nazi sympathizers, though the film only hints at this.



* {{Jerkass}}: King Edward VIII, from what we see of him, is very rude towards Albert and more concerned with living the high life than with being a guiding voice for England. Also, he and Wallis were a pair of Nazi sympathizers, though the film only hints at this.
8th Apr '18 3:54:21 AM LtFedora
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* StiffUpperLip: This is expected of royalty in particular, so much so that when Edward breaks down at the death of his father, rather than comfort him everyone looks shocked and a little embarrassed, with Albert saying, "What on earth was that?" Absolutely truth in television, too - at that time, among the royal family, his breakdown was completely unseemly. Note that when Bertie has ''his'' later on, the only person there to witness it is his wife. Also When Queen Mary is listening to King George VI, there is a glimpse of a smile, and then returns to a stiff upper lip.

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* StiffUpperLip: This is expected of royalty in particular, so much so that when Edward breaks down at the death of his father, rather than comfort him everyone looks shocked and a little embarrassed, with Albert saying, "What on earth was that?" Absolutely truth in television, too - at that time, among the royal family, his breakdown was completely unseemly. Note that when Bertie has ''his'' later on, the only person there to witness it is his wife. Also When when Queen Mary is listening to King George VI, there is a glimpse of a smile, and then returns to a stiff upper lip.
19th Jan '18 2:09:55 AM Damar
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** The film also gets Churchill's position on the abdication crisis exactly backward; historically, Churchill was one of the few who was supportive of Edward.

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** The film also gets Churchill's position on the abdication crisis exactly backward; historically, Churchill was one of the few who was supportive of Edward.Edward, as Churchill's own mother was an American socialite.
10th Jan '18 10:56:48 PM Uyyy
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** Deliberately {{invoked}} with Edward's casual comment about the troubles in Europe, "Hitler will sort it out." While it could be considered merely naive, to modern audiences, that statement feels positively horrific and despicable to see the King of England ''want'' Nazi Germany to begin its rampage of mass death and destruction.

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** Deliberately {{invoked}} with Edward's casual comment about the troubles in Europe, "Hitler will sort it out." While it could be considered merely naive, to modern audiences, that statement feels positively horrific and despicable to see the King of England ''want'' Nazi Germany to begin its rampage of mass death and destruction. Sadly enough, this is actually a ''favorable'' portrayal - in real life, Edward was a vocal supporter of Nazi Germany, guesting with Hitler multiple times, to the point that he had to be KickedUpstairs to Governor of the Bahamas because the British government was ''that worried'' their once-king would try and sabotage the war effort.
9th Jan '18 10:56:46 PM Uyyy
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Zigzagged with the characterization of Edward VIII. On the one hand, his image of a romantic man who gave up the crown for love is dissected, turning him into little more than a ditzy, uncaring socialite who really had no interest in - or business - being a constitutional monarch. On the other hand, Edward's vocal support for Nazi Germany is almost completely ignored, reduced to a single throwaway line.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Zigzagged with the characterization of Edward VIII. On the one hand, his image of a romantic man who gave up the crown for love is dissected, turning him into little more than a ditzy, uncaring socialite who really had no interest in - or business - being a constitutional monarch. On the other hand, Edward's vocal support for Nazi Germany is almost completely ignored, reduced to a single throwaway line.line (though in-keeping with the aforementioned "ditzy socialite" characterisation).


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* SomebodyElsesProblem: Edward VIII's attitude toward [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII rising tensions]] in Europe. The "somebody" in question? ''UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler''.
5th Jan '18 3:50:07 PM Milarqui
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* Corpsing: Blink and you'll miss it, but Lionel is laughing heartily during Albert's ClusterFBomb. This wasn't scripted and Geoffrey Rush was just losing his composure at the hilarious delivery, but Tom Hooper thought it was such a great addition that they kept it.

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* Corpsing: {{Corpsing}}: Blink and you'll miss it, but Lionel is laughing heartily during Albert's ClusterFBomb. This wasn't scripted and Geoffrey Rush was just losing his composure at the hilarious delivery, but Tom Hooper thought it was such a great addition that they kept it.
30th Dec '17 10:58:18 PM ScribeRetro
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* Corpsing: Blink and you'll miss it, but Lionel is laughing heartily during Albert's ClusterFBomb. This wasn't scripted and Geoffrey Rush was just losing his composure at the hilarious delivery, but Tom Hooper thought it was such a great addition that they kept it.
23rd Dec '17 5:50:32 PM nombretomado
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** When Lionel forbids Prince Albert from smoking in his office, he calls the knighted doctors who recommended the prince to smoke for the good of his larynx "idiots". However, back in TheRoaringTwenties, that makes Logue an eccentric while modern audiences would know that a doctor giving such an advice is practically grounds for medical malpractice. This also makes sense once we remember that Logue had worked with plenty of WWI veterans and had seen the effects of gassing on young men. Bertie in turn was a turret captain on [[BritsWithBattleships one of the Royal Navy battleships]] at the same war, and cordite smoke actually does even ''worse'' things to a human lungs than tobacco, but even this taught him nothing. He still smoked like a chimney to the very end.

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** When Lionel forbids Prince Albert from smoking in his office, he calls the knighted doctors who recommended the prince to smoke for the good of his larynx "idiots". However, back in TheRoaringTwenties, that makes Logue an eccentric while modern audiences would know that a doctor giving such an advice is practically grounds for medical malpractice. This also makes sense once we remember that Logue had worked with plenty of WWI veterans and had seen the effects of gassing on young men. Bertie in turn was a turret captain on [[BritsWithBattleships [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships one of the Royal Navy battleships]] at the same war, and cordite smoke actually does even ''worse'' things to a human lungs than tobacco, but even this taught him nothing. He still smoked like a chimney to the very end.



** Furthermore, Bertie earned the rank of Commander in the [[BritsWithBattleships Royal Navy]], and even saw combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The uniform he wears during the final speech is just that, the uniform he wore in the last war.

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** Furthermore, Bertie earned the rank of Commander in the [[BritsWithBattleships [[UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships Royal Navy]], and even saw combat during UsefulNotes/WorldWarI. The uniform he wears during the final speech is just that, the uniform he wore in the last war.
17th Dec '17 4:44:08 AM Jormungar
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* StiffUpperLip: This is expected of royalty in particular, so much so that Edward's breakdown at being told he will be king after the death of his father is treated pretty seriously as a sign that he isn't fit to rule, and gets him a WhatTheHellHero from his brother. Absolutely truth in television, too - at that time, among the royal family, his breakdown was completely unseemly. Note that when Bertie has ''his'' later on, the only person there to witness it is his wife. Also When Queen Mary is listening to King George VI, there is a glimpse of a smile, and then returns to a stiff upper lip.

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* StiffUpperLip: This is expected of royalty in particular, so much so that Edward's breakdown when Edward breaks down at being told he will be king after the death of his father is treated pretty seriously as a sign that he isn't fit to rule, father, rather than comfort him everyone looks shocked and gets him a WhatTheHellHero from his brother. little embarrassed, with Albert saying, "What on earth was that?" Absolutely truth in television, too - at that time, among the royal family, his breakdown was completely unseemly. Note that when Bertie has ''his'' later on, the only person there to witness it is his wife. Also When Queen Mary is listening to King George VI, there is a glimpse of a smile, and then returns to a stiff upper lip.
15th Dec '17 4:55:12 PM VoxAquila
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* SpiritualAntithesis: Had one a year later in Music/{{Madonna}}'s ''W.E.'', which presents many of the events from Edward and Wallis's point of view, and takes a less charitable view of the Windsors.
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