History Film / TheDamBusters

27th Mar '17 12:06:42 AM aishwarya
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barnes is visibly shaken, in a very StiffUpperLip fashion, when he hears how many men were lost during the raid... although ''not'' the German civilians who perished when the dams burst. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance It was that sort of war]], and numerous British civilians were undoubtedly dying to German bombs that same night.
--> '''Wallis''': ''[voice unsteady]'' Fifty-six men. If I'd known it was going to be like this I'd never have started.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barnes is visibly shaken, in a very StiffUpperLip fashion, shaken when he hears how many men were lost during the raid... although ''not'' the German civilians who perished when the dams burst. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance It was that sort of war]], and numerous British civilians were undoubtedly dying to German bombs that same night.
--> '''Wallis''': ''[voice unsteady]'' ''[almost tearfully]'' Fifty-six men. If I'd known it was going to be like this I'd never have started.



*** The letters he has to write, of course, are to the wives and parents of those men telling them of the death of their loved ones. He didn't [b]have[/b] to do it, especially not right at that moment, the War Office would inform them by telegram - but he wanted to ensure that the families got something more personal as soon as possible.
** {{Subverted}} by Wallis, who's depicted as someone who's too [[{{Adorkable}} artless]] to hide his feelings. He is shown to be on the verge of tears on two occasions, once when the mission's [[spoiler: success]] is reported, and the second time in the above-mentioned conversation with Gibson.

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*** The letters he has to write, of course, are to the wives and parents of those men telling them of the death of their loved ones. He didn't [b]have[/b] '''have''' to do it, especially not right at that moment, the War Office would inform them by telegram - but he wanted to ensure that the families got something more personal as soon as possible.
** {{Subverted}} by Wallis, who's depicted as someone who's who is too [[{{Adorkable}} artless]] to hide his feelings. He is shown to be The film shows him on the verge of tears on two occasions, once when the mission's [[spoiler: success]] is reported, and the second time in the above-mentioned conversation with Gibson.
20th Jan '17 3:01:50 AM aishwarya
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* StiffUpperLip: Taken as read - it is a British war film after all. {{Subverted}} only by Wallis, who is nearly moved to tears when he hears that [[spoiler: the mission has been successful]], and again struggles to together when Gibson confirms that [[spoiler: so many of the crew have died]].

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* StiffUpperLip: Taken as read - it is a British war film after all. {{Subverted}} only by Wallis, who is nearly moved to tears when he hears that [[spoiler: the mission has been successful]], and again struggles to together when Gibson confirms that [[spoiler: so many of the crew have died]].



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** {{Subverted}} by Wallis, who's depicted as someone who's too [[{{Adorkable}} artless]] to hide his feelings. He is shown to be on the verge of tears on two occasions, once when the mission's [[spoiler: success]] is reported, and the second time in the above-mentioned conversation with Gibson.
20th Jan '17 2:57:57 AM aishwarya
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* StiffUpperLip: Taken as read - it is a British war film after all. Particularly notable in the climactic attack scenes though, particularly with Wallis' subversion of it, being easily the most tense and the most euphoric.

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* StiffUpperLip: Taken as read - it is a British war film after all. Particularly notable in {{Subverted}} only by Wallis, who is nearly moved to tears when he hears that [[spoiler: the climactic attack scenes though, particularly with Wallis' subversion mission has been successful]], and again struggles to together when Gibson confirms that [[spoiler: so many of it, being easily the most tense and the most euphoric.crew have died]].


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11th Oct '16 3:49:24 AM Mareon
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Notable for its influence on a little movie called ''[[Film/ANewHope StarWars]]'': the trench run was heavily inspired by the climax of the film. Several lines of dialogue are actually re-used, nearly verbatim.

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Notable for its influence on a little movie called ''[[Film/ANewHope StarWars]]'': Star Wars]]'': the trench run was heavily inspired by the climax of the film. Several lines of dialogue are actually re-used, nearly verbatim.
17th Sep '16 4:11:21 AM blatster
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* StiffUpperLip: Taken as read - it is a British war film after all. Particularly notable in the climactic attack scenes though, particularly with Wallis' subversion of it, being easily the most tense and the most euphoric.
** One of the more heartbreaking examples, in the final line of the movie. Wallis and Gibson discuss the deaths of the crews in the night's mission (see MyGodWhatHaveIDone above), and as they part ways Wallis asks Gibson if he's going to go and get some sleep. His answer? "No. I... I have to write some letters first". That little crack in his voice is about the only indication you have of his grief over the death of 56 of his men.
*** The letters he has to write, of course, are to the wives and parents of those men telling them of the death of their loved ones. He didn't [b]have[/b] to do it, especially not right at that moment, the War Office would inform them by telegram - but he wanted to ensure that the families got something more personal as soon as possible.
11th Jul '16 4:15:43 AM aishwarya
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* {{Adorkable}}: Barnes Wallis, whose nerdiness is nicely offset by his earnestness, good-hearted nature and inability to hide how queasy he becomes in tense moments.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Barnes Wallis, whose nerdiness is nicely offset by his earnestness, good-hearted nature childlike earnestness and inability to hide how queasy he becomes in tense moments.



--> '''Wallis''': ''[his voice unsteady]'' Fifty-six men. If I'd known it was going to be like this I'd never have started.

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--> '''Wallis''': ''[his voice ''[voice unsteady]'' Fifty-six men. If I'd known it was going to be like this I'd never have started.
28th Jun '16 10:00:59 PM aishwarya
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--> '''Wallis''': ''[his voice unsteady]'' Fifty-six men. If I'd known it was going to be like this I'd never have started.
27th Jun '16 2:02:00 AM aishwarya
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* {{Adorkable}}: Barnes Wallis, whose nerdiness is nicely offset by his earnestness, good-hearted nature and inability to hide how queasy he becomes in tense moments.
25th Jun '16 8:41:56 AM Jake
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At the beginning of WW2, the great engineer (then not yet Sir) Barnes Wallis (played by [[Creator/MichaelRedgrave Redgrave]]) pointed out that bombs rarely did much damage to hardened military installations unless they hit them right on the button (and often not much even then). What you needed was a way of transmitting ALL of the bomb's energy into the target rather than spending most of it on the air. Barnes Wallis proposed that bombs should be designed so that they penetrated the ground AROUND the target rather than hitting it directly, and then went off UNDER it, causing a local earthquake and hole, into which the target would fall. The idea was brilliant and would work perfectly, so it was ignored by all the Air Ministry officials he took it to. Of course the fact his proposal called for a new six-engined monster bomber built specifically to carry the bomb and useless for anything else could have had something to do with it.

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At the beginning of WW2, the great engineer (then not yet Sir) Barnes Wallis (played by [[Creator/MichaelRedgrave Redgrave]]) pointed out that bombs rarely did much damage to hardened military installations unless they hit them right on the button (and often not much even then). What you needed was a way of transmitting ALL of the bomb's energy into the target rather than spending most of it on the air. Barnes Wallis proposed that bombs should be designed so that they penetrated the ground AROUND the target rather than hitting it directly, and then went off UNDER it, causing a local earthquake and hole, into which the target would fall. The idea was brilliant and would work have worked perfectly, so it was ignored by all the Air Ministry officials he took it to. Of course the fact but his initial proposal called for a new bomb so large that no aircraft then in existence could carry it and the six-engined monster "Victory" bomber built specifically Wallis designed to carry do the bomb and useless job would have been little use for anything else could have had something to do with it.
and hideously expensive besides, so the Air Ministry were less than enthusiastic.



Barnes Wallis came up with the idea of making a 5-ton spinning bomb which would skip across the water, hit the dam wall, then sink to the bottom before exploding. Thus the water itself would focus the force of the blast against the dam's wall, in much the same way that a good torpedo hit causes more damage to a ship's hull than would an equivalent amount of explosives in a bomb or artillery shell. These were duly made in a tearing hurry and delivered by a crack team flying Lancasters in pitch darkness 60ft over water, nearly half of whom did not come back. The bombs worked, though the most important dam survived.

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Barnes Wallis came up with the idea of making a 5-ton spinning bomb which would skip across the water, hit the dam wall, then sink to the bottom before exploding. Thus the water itself would focus the force of the blast against the dam's wall, in much the same way that a good torpedo hit causes more damage to a ship's hull than would an equivalent amount of explosives in a bomb or artillery shell. These were duly made in a tearing hurry and delivered by a crack team flying Lancasters in pitch darkness 60ft over water, nearly half of whom did not come back. The bombs worked, though the most important dam survived.
survived and the impact on the German war effort from destroying the others was somewhat underwhelming.



* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barnes is visibly shaken, in a very StiffUpperLip fashion, when he hears how many men were lost during the raid.
** but note that he appears unconcerned by the unknown civilian casualties
--> '''Barnes Wallis:''' If I'd known it was going to be like this, I'd never have started.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Barnes is visibly shaken, in a very StiffUpperLip fashion, when he hears how many men were lost during the raid.
** but note
raid... although ''not'' the German civilians who perished when the dams burst. [[DeliberateValuesDissonance It was that he appears unconcerned by the unknown civilian casualties
--> '''Barnes Wallis:''' If I'd known it was going
sort of war]], and numerous British civilians were undoubtedly dying to be like this, I'd never have started. German bombs that same night.
9th Jun '16 10:53:09 PM aishwarya
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At the beginning of WW2, the great engineer (then not yet Sir) Barnes Wallis (played by [[Creator/MichaelRedgrave Redgrave ]] pointed out that bombs rarely did much damage to hardened military installations unless they hit them right on the button (and often not much even then). What you needed was a way of transmitting ALL of the bomb's energy into the target rather than spending most of it on the air. Barnes Wallis proposed that bombs should be designed so that they penetrated the ground AROUND the target rather than hitting it directly, and then went off UNDER it, causing a local earthquake and hole, into which the target would fall. The idea was brilliant and would work perfectly, so it was ignored by all the Air Ministry officials he took it to. Of course the fact his proposal called for a new six-engined monster bomber built specifically to carry the bomb and useless for anything else could have had something to do with it.

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At the beginning of WW2, the great engineer (then not yet Sir) Barnes Wallis (played by [[Creator/MichaelRedgrave Redgrave ]] Redgrave]]) pointed out that bombs rarely did much damage to hardened military installations unless they hit them right on the button (and often not much even then). What you needed was a way of transmitting ALL of the bomb's energy into the target rather than spending most of it on the air. Barnes Wallis proposed that bombs should be designed so that they penetrated the ground AROUND the target rather than hitting it directly, and then went off UNDER it, causing a local earthquake and hole, into which the target would fall. The idea was brilliant and would work perfectly, so it was ignored by all the Air Ministry officials he took it to. Of course the fact his proposal called for a new six-engined monster bomber built specifically to carry the bomb and useless for anything else could have had something to do with it.
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