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* AcceptableTargets: InUniverse, when the movie producer tells Nick that only three kinds of people still smoke in the movies nowadays: [[FunWithAcronyms RAVs]], [[DirtyCommies Russians]], [[UsefulNotes/TheWarONTerror Arabs]], and [[GoodSmokingEvilSmoking Villains.]]

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* AcceptableTargets: InUniverse, when the movie producer tells Nick that only three kinds of people still smoke in the movies nowadays: [[FunWithAcronyms RAVs]], [[DirtyCommies Russians]], [[UsefulNotes/TheWarONTerror [[UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror Arabs]], and [[GoodSmokingEvilSmoking Villains.]]


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* NoodleIncident: Jeff's assistant Jack spots a friend of his in the hallway, then, with a [[DissonantSerenity huge smile]], gives the guy a vile threat about impaling his mother and feeding her to his dog, then shakes his hand and tells Nick and his son "It's an inside joke."
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* AcceptableTargets: InUniverse, when the movie producer tells Nick that only three kinds of people still smoke in the movies nowadays: [[FunWithAcronyms RAVs]], [[DirtyCommies Russians]], [[UsefulNotes/TheWarONTerror Arabs]], and [[GoodSmokingEvilSmoking Villains.]]


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* ExtendedDisarming: Implied when [[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics Bobby Jay]] gets stopped following Nick and Polly through a metal detector and insists they go ahead, as "this might take awhile."


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* ProductPlacement: InUniverse, a subplot features Nick working with Jeff, the movie producer, to insert a smoking scene into Jeff's big sci-fi blockbuster, complete with a marketing tie-in line of cigarettes from Nick's company.


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* RealityEnsues: Nick, BR, and their company can hide the issue from the public as much as they want, but they can't stop [[spoiler: The Captain from dying of lung cancer.]]


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* SmokingHotSex: [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] when Nick suggests that Jeff the movie producer include a scene where Creator/BradPitt and Creator/CatherineZetaJones light one up together after fucking in [[ZeroGSpot zero gravity.]]
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Senator Feinstein, I mean, Finistirre

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Senator Feinstein, I mean, FinistirreFinistirre.


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* NeverMyFault: This is basically Nick's job, twisting, obfuscating, or otherwise deflecting from the truth so it looks like everyone ''except'' the cigarette companies are at fault.


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* VillainProtagonist: Nick Naylor, although he's so [[AffablyEvil goddamn charming]] it's easy to forget that his job is basically to lie to the public to prevent corporations from facing any kind of public repercussions.
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* ArcWords: "[[EveryManHasHisPrice For the mortgage]]." Nick Naylor uses it as his personal life motto, and [[spoiler:Heather Holloway]] later [[IronicEcho throws it back in his face]] after the news article comes out. In the end, Nick [[spoiler: turns down BR's offer of employment]] with the reasoning that his self-respect is more important than a mere mortgage.


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* LeaveBehindAPistol: Parodied, when Bobby Bliss offers Nick his pistol to do this to get out of having to answer questions before Congress.


** JerkassHasAPoint: However, she (and Brad) are right in that Nick does not seem to stop smoking when with Joey. [[spoiler:Later, she brings Joey to Nick just after he suffered his TraumaCongaLine.]]

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** * JerkassHasAPoint: However, she Jill (and Brad) are right in that Nick does not seem to stop smoking when with Joey. [[spoiler:Later, she brings Joey to Nick just after he suffered his TraumaCongaLine.]]
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* SouthernGentleman: The Captain gives off this vibe with his white suit, Southern accent, and many riches. The PoliticallyIncorrectVillain [[CorruptHick angle]] is also subtly hinted. All his waiters? Black.

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* SouthernGentleman: The Captain gives off this vibe with his white suit, Southern accent, and many riches. The PoliticallyIncorrectVillain [[CorruptHick angle]] is also subtly hinted. hinted: All his waiters? Black.
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* HerrDoctor: Dr Meisenbach. In the movie, his name is the hilarious Dr. Erhardt Von Grupten Mundt, who could "disprove gravity".

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* HerrDoctor: Dr Meisenbach. In the movie, his name is the hilarious Dr. Erhardt Von Grupten Mundt, Grupten-Mundt, who could "disprove gravity".
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''Thank You for Smoking'' is a 1994 novel written by Christopher Buckley and 2005 [[BlackComedy dark comedy]] film directed by Creator/JasonReitman and starring Creator/AaronEckhart and Creator/WilliamHMacy.

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''Thank You for Smoking'' is a 1994 novel written by Christopher Buckley and 2005 [[BlackComedy dark comedy]] film directed by Creator/JasonReitman and starring Creator/AaronEckhart Creator/AaronEckhart, Creator/WilliamHMacy and Creator/WilliamHMacy.Creator/KatieHolmes.
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* NecktieLeash: When Nick stands in front of Heather's door, she opens up and pulls him in by the necktie. A WallBangHer scene ensues.
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-->'''Bobby:''' Even ''[[AmericanGunPolitics I]]'' think that's kind of cruel...

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-->'''Bobby:''' Even ''[[AmericanGunPolitics ''[[UsefulNotes/AmericanGunPolitics I]]'' think that's kind of cruel...
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-->'''Bobby'': She has big tits.

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-->'''Bobby'': -->'''Bobby''': She has big tits.
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* MsFanservice: Lampshaded, in reference to Heather.
-->'''Bobby'': She has big tits.
-->'''Polly''': How is that relevant?
-->'''Bobby''': For a man, big tits on a reporter are ''always'' relevant.
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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: At the climax, BJ admits that everyone he works with ''loved'' the "[[AppropriatedAppelation Merchants of Death]]" moniker, to the point of getting bumper stickers printed off.

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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: At the climax, BJ admits that everyone he works with ''loved'' the "[[AppropriatedAppelation "[[AppropriatedAppellation Merchants of Death]]" moniker, to the point of getting bumper stickers printed off.
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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: At the climax, BJ admits that everyone he works with ''loved'' the "[[AppropriatedAppelation Merchants of Death]]" moniker, to the point of getting bumper stickers printed off.
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* AllWomenAreLustful: Heather, at least in the film, wants to have sex with Nick as she's watching a segment about him on TV, which he lampshades.

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** Joey himself seems to be learning from his father, as he able to get him mom to let him go to Los Angeles.

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** Joey himself seems to be learning from his father, as he able to get him mom to let him go to Los Angeles.Angeles by exploiting a few insecurities of hers.
--->'''Joey''': It was an argument, not a negotiation.
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* DrinkOrder: The Captain and mint juleps. [[spoiler: Nick puts a glass on his grave]].

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* DrinkOrder: The Captain and mint juleps. [[spoiler: Nick puts a glass on his grave]].grave in the novel, one of the club's waiters does it in the movie]].
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* CouldSayItBut: When Nick makes his first public appearance after Heather's article, he says he's above revealing the name of the seductress who'd gotten him to spill his secrets, but only ''after'' giving a great physical description of her.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: BR.
** Only in the film, where after his tours in Vietnam, "everyone who knows what it means are all dead". In the book, his real name, Budd Rohrenbacher, is mentioned once as an aside; people simply call him BR for simplicity rather than NoNameGiven.

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: BR.
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BR in the film, where after his tours in Vietnam, "everyone who knows what it means are all dead". In the book, his real name, Budd Rohrenbacher, is mentioned once as an aside; people simply call him BR for simplicity rather than NoNameGiven.

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* MushroomSamba: After Nick is [[spoiler:forcibly made to wear dozens of nicotine patches, he passes out into a hallucinatory dream where he imagines himself starring in a house fire safety video.]]



* SouthernGentleman: The Captain gives off this vibe with his white suit, Southern accent, and many riches. The PoliticallyIncorrectVillain [[CorruptHick angle]] is also subtly hinted; all his waiters? Black.

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* SouthernGentleman: The Captain gives off this vibe with his white suit, Southern accent, and many riches. The PoliticallyIncorrectVillain [[CorruptHick angle]] is also subtly hinted; all hinted. All his waiters? Black.
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* WallBangHer: Nick and the hot reporter.

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* WallBangHer: Nick and Heather Holloway, all over his apartment, including the hot reporter.kitchen table, the sink, the closet...

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* LittlestCancerPatient: "And where in the hell did you find Cancer Boy? ... When you're looking for a cancer kid, he should be hopeless! He should have a wheelchair, he should have trouble talking, he should have a little pet goldfish he carries around in a ziplock bag. Hopeless!"

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* LittlestCancerPatient: Finistirre's aide on the opening talk show attempts this, bringing with him a guest teen who's gone bald from smoking-induced cancer. However, it backfires when Nick's testimony is suave enough to even persuade the kid. Finistirre later chews out his aide for bringing a bald but otherwise healthy-looking teen.
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"And where in the hell did you find Cancer Boy? ... When you're looking for a cancer kid, he should be hopeless! He should have a wheelchair, he should have trouble talking, he should have a little pet goldfish he carries around in a ziplock bag. Hopeless!"


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* SouthernGentleman: The Captain gives off this vibe with his white suit, Southern accent, and many riches. The PoliticallyIncorrectVillain [[CorruptHick angle]] is also subtly hinted; all his waiters? Black.
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''Thank You for Smoking'' is a 1994 novel written by Christopher Buckley and 2005 [[BlackComedy dark comedy]] film directed by Creator/JasonReitman and starring Aaron Eckhart and Creator/WilliamHMacy.

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''Thank You for Smoking'' is a 1994 novel written by Christopher Buckley and 2005 [[BlackComedy dark comedy]] film directed by Creator/JasonReitman and starring Aaron Eckhart Creator/AaronEckhart and Creator/WilliamHMacy.
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Fixing some illogic speech


* AdaptationDistillation: The book and the movie are such substantially different animals that it's almost hard to believe anyone on the crew actually read the book (although the movie is still a worthy product in its own right: TropesAreNotBad). Many elements of the plot have been reduced, rearranged or cut out entirely, which creates a completely different narrative. There are too many examples to list here, but the biggest example is the kidnapping. In the book, it takes place at the beginning and is hugely important to the plot, and is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler: a plot by BR to get good publicity and get Nick out of the way, allowing Janette to take his place.]] In the movie, it takes place at the end and adds little to the plot, other than [[spoiler: making sure that Nick, a tobacco lobbyist, can never smoke again due to all the nicotine patches the kidnappers forced onto him.]]

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* AdaptationDistillation: The book and the movie are such substantially different animals that it's almost hard to believe anyone on the crew actually read the book (although the movie is still a worthy product in its own right: TropesAreNotBad). Many elements of the plot have been reduced, rearranged or cut out entirely, which creates a completely different narrative. There are too many examples to list here, but the biggest example is the kidnapping. In the book, it takes place at the beginning and is hugely important to the plot, and is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler: a plot by BR to get good publicity and get Nick out of the way, allowing Janette to take his place.]] In the movie, it takes place at the end and adds little to but still mark a point in the plot, other than sense that [[spoiler: making sure even after his near death experience, and the fact that Nick, a tobacco lobbyist, he can never smoke again due to all the nicotine patches the kidnappers forced onto him.]]him. Nick doesn't discourage people to smoke.]] So the message of the film still stand: choice is the most important thing.
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* LastSupperSteal: In the OpeningMonologue, we see a shot of "sharks" placed around a table reminiscent of the last supper scene.

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* LastSupperSteal: In the OpeningMonologue, we see a shot of "sharks" placed around a table reminiscent of the last supper ''Art/TheLastSupper'' scene.
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Examples Are Not Arguable and if the movie clearly portrays a character as a good guy, he is where the movie(and objective tropes) are concerned.


* PunchClockVillain: If you consider Nick to be a VillainProtagonist, he will be likely one of these.



* VillainProtagonist: Depending on your perspective on smoking. Nick Naylor is played straight as a classic protagonist in a Hero's Journey, despite being what many would consider a villain in the cigarette wars.
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Despite working as a lobbyist for the cigarette industry, Nick's personal charm and charisma make him very popular among the general public.

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* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Arguing for an industry that is seen as a killer doesn't make you very popular. [[ReconstructedTrope Nick more or less accepts this]] and it makes his job more rewarding when he succeeds.



* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero: Nick is a ruthless lobbyist for a product that poisons people... but he's such a cool, charming guy, you almost forget that.

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* AntiVillain[=/=]AntiHero: AntiVillain: Nick is a ruthless lobbyist for a product that poisons people... but he's such a cool, charming guy, you almost forget that.



* KarmicDeath[=/=]DeathByIrony: Inverted [[spoiler:when some anti-tobacco activists kidnap Nick and try to overdose him on Nicotine Patches, it's his lifetime of smoking that gave him the resistance to fight it. It does become a CoolAndUnusualPunishment though, as he can never smoke again on pain of death.]]

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* KarmicDeath[=/=]DeathByIrony: KarmicDeath: Inverted [[spoiler:when some anti-tobacco activists kidnap Nick and try to overdose him on Nicotine Patches, it's his lifetime of smoking that gave him the resistance to fight it. It does become a CoolAndUnusualPunishment though, as he can never smoke again on pain of death.]]



* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: BR

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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: BRBR.



* PunchClockVillain: If you consider Nick to be a VillainProtagonist, he will be likely one of these.



* VillainProtagonist: Depending on your perspective on smoking. Nick Naylor is played straight as a classic protagonist in a Hero's Journey, despite being what many would consider a villain in the cigarette wars.



* ZeroPercentApprovalRating: Arguing for an industry that is seen as a killer doesn't make you very popular. [[ReconstructedTrope Nick more or less accepts this]] and it makes his job more rewarding when he succeeds.
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* LastSupperSteal: In the OpeningMonologue, we see a shot of "sharks" placed around a table reminiscent of the last supper scene.
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'''Nick''': ''(Pointing to the passers-by)'' Yeah, but I'm not after you. I'm after ''them''.\\

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'''Nick''': ''(Pointing to the passers-by)'' Yeah, but I'm not after you. I'm after ''them''.\\

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