History Film / RosenFuerDenStaatsanwalt

6th Nov '15 2:53:20 PM jeez
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* MissedHimByThatMuch: Rudi and Schramm bump into each other without recognizing each other once.

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* MissedHimByThatMuch: Rudi and Schramm bump into each other without recognizing recognising each other once.
3rd Nov '15 8:37:01 PM Fireblood
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''Rosen für den Staatsanwalt'', or ''Roses For The Prosecutor'' for Americans, is a 1959 German BlackComedy. It's set in post-war Germany, during the period when former Nazi party members and collaborators got reformed reinstituted as civil servants in the young [[WestGermany German Federal Republic]].

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''Rosen für den Staatsanwalt'', or ''Roses For The Prosecutor'' for Americans, is a 1959 German BlackComedy. It's set in post-war Germany, during the period when former Nazi party members and collaborators got reformed reinstituted "denazified" then reinstated as civil servants in the young [[WestGermany German Federal Republic]].



* BasedOnATrueStory & HilariousInHindsight: Scandals like these happened all the time (particularly one that involved the head-teacher [[http://archive.jta.org/article/1958/04/15/3054752/jews-in-germany-do-not-see-zind-case-as-a-revival-of-antisemitism Ludwig Zind]], on which this story was based), until well into the 1980s; not least due to the strong solidarity among high-ranking ex-Nazis and the simply startling amount of people who were, in one way or another, Nazi perpetrators, and avoided punishment by the allied forces in the late 1940s. Many people also fled Germany and got sentenced in absentia, just like that friend Schramm helped to flee the country for antisemetic remarks.

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* BasedOnATrueStory & HilariousInHindsight: Scandals like these happened all the time (particularly one that involved the head-teacher headbteacher [[http://archive.jta.org/article/1958/04/15/3054752/jews-in-germany-do-not-see-zind-case-as-a-revival-of-antisemitism Ludwig Zind]], on which this story was based), until well into the 1980s; 1980s, not least due to the strong solidarity among high-ranking ex-Nazis and the simply startling amount of people who were, were in one way or another, another Nazi perpetrators, perpetrators and avoided punishment by the allied forces in the late 1940s. Many people also fled Germany and got sentenced in absentia, just like that friend Schramm helped to flee the country for antisemetic antisemitic remarks.



* DarkAndTroubledPast: Averted. Schramm hides his past as a Nazi HangingJudge purely for legal reasons. He himself shows no remorse of what he did whatsoever. In fact he tries to carry over his old philosophies to his new position any way he can.

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* DarkAndTroubledPast: Averted.{{Averted}}. Schramm hides his past as a Nazi HangingJudge purely for legal reasons. He himself shows no remorse of for what he did whatsoever. In fact he tries to carry over his old philosophies to his new position any way he can.



** Discussed by a few other guys, who mention that a Wehrmacht lorry driver was shot for dozing off.
* ForWantOfANail: Schramm's "It's not about the chocolate!" rhetoric. As a matter of fact, it's about 'the integrity of the Reich's fighting forces and the defence of the homeland'.

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** Discussed {{Discussed}} by a few other guys, who mention that a Wehrmacht lorry driver was shot for dozing off.
* ForWantOfANail: Schramm's "It's not about the chocolate!" rhetoric. As a matter of fact, it's about 'the integrity of the Reich's fighting forces and the defence defense of the homeland'.



* MissedHimByThatMuch: Rudi and Schramm bump into each other without recognising each other once.

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* MissedHimByThatMuch: Rudi and Schramm bump into each other without recognising recognizing each other once.



* OnlySaneMan: Schramm thinks he is, as one of the few real 'defenders' of the "righteous" Nazi ideology in post-war Germany. That's why he won't press charges against fellow Nazis (saying that it would be next to betraying his own ideals), but finds antisemitism to be a mere picadillo.

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* OnlySaneMan: Schramm thinks he is, as one of the few real 'defenders' of the "righteous" Nazi ideology in post-war Germany. That's why he won't press charges against fellow Nazis (saying that it would be next to betraying his own ideals), but and finds antisemitism to be a mere picadillo.peccadillo.



--> '''Commissar:''' Mr Kleinschmidt, you are an intelligent man, right? You know you are never supposed to apply logical thought when dealing with government agencies. You'll only stir up trouble that way.

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--> '''Commissar:''' Mr Mr. Kleinschmidt, you are an intelligent man, right? You know you are never supposed to apply logical thought when dealing with government agencies. You'll only stir up trouble that way.
1st Oct '15 11:45:06 AM LordGro
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** Right after the accountant falters and tears up the accusing letter for Schramm's superiors out of fear of risking powerful enemies, he walks past a public announcement sign reading "[[{{Anvilicious}} Citizens, protect your assets!]]"

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** Right after the accountant falters and tears up the accusing letter for Schramm's superiors out of fear of risking powerful enemies, he walks past a public announcement sign reading "[[{{Anvilicious}} Citizens, "Citizens, protect your assets!]]"assets!"
1st Oct '15 11:43:27 AM LordGro
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* CaptainObviousAesop: [[RunningGag Nazis are bad]].
1st Oct '15 11:42:03 AM LordGro
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** CaptainObviousAesop: [[RunningGag Nazis are bad]].



* CaptainObviousAesop: [[RunningGag Nazis are bad]].



* DisproportionateRetribution: Buy chocolate via questionable means ==> get shot by firing squad. Sadly TruthInTelevision; death sentences were passed for lesser reasons in the Third Reich's final stages.
** Also discussed by a few other guys, who mention that a Wehrmacht lorry driver was shot for dozing off.

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* DisproportionateRetribution: DisproportionateRetribution:
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Buy chocolate via questionable means ==> get shot by firing squad. Sadly TruthInTelevision; death sentences were passed for lesser reasons in the Third Reich's final stages.
** Also discussed Discussed by a few other guys, who mention that a Wehrmacht lorry driver was shot for dozing off.



* RuleOfSymbolism: The movie ends with [[spoiler:Schramm taking the lift downstairs and clumsily descending the stairs outside the court building, being forced to leave his robe behind in the process]].
** Also, right after the accountant falters and tears up the accusing letter for Schramm's superiors out of fear of risking powerful enemies, he walks past a public announcement sign reading "[[{{Anvilicious}} Citizens, protect your assets!]]"

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* RuleOfSymbolism: RuleOfSymbolism:
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The movie ends with [[spoiler:Schramm taking the lift downstairs and clumsily descending the stairs outside the court building, being forced to leave his robe behind in the process]].
** Also, right Right after the accountant falters and tears up the accusing letter for Schramm's superiors out of fear of risking powerful enemies, he walks past a public announcement sign reading "[[{{Anvilicious}} Citizens, protect your assets!]]"
1st Oct '15 11:40:56 AM LordGro
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Arguably. The film was made in Kassel, a city affected a lot by both WW2 and the ''Wirtschaftswunder'', so it features a lot of construction sites, interestingly quirky clothing, newly-found wealth and ''Lebenslust'', as well as state-of-the-art architecture featuring ''Plattenbau'' buildings, glass lifts, symmetric marble facades, minimalistic wood panelling and elegantly curved plastic furniture - most of which is generally seen as ugly and pretentious post-war kitsch nowadays.
1st Oct '15 11:38:59 AM LordGro
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--> ''"The war isn't lost yet. Far from it. But if it is lost, then - Heil Hitler. - then life's not worth living anymore. In any case, not for the decent, the loyal, the good, and the nation's precious."''
--> '''Military Justice Wilhelm Schramm''', [[TemptingFate a couple of days before the end of]] [[WorldWar2 the war]].

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--> ''"The ->''"The war isn't lost yet. Far from it. But if it is lost, then - Heil Hitler. - then life's not worth living anymore. In any case, not for the decent, the loyal, the good, and the nation's precious."''
--> '''Military -->--'''Military Justice Wilhelm Schramm''', [[TemptingFate a couple of days before the end of]] [[WorldWar2 the war]].



* [[spoiler:AccidentalPublicConfession]]: [[spoiler: "I herewith propose for the defendant... the death sentence."]]

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* [[spoiler:AccidentalPublicConfession]]: AccidentalPublicConfession: [[spoiler: "I herewith propose for the defendant... the death sentence."]]
1st Oct '15 11:37:19 AM LordGro
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Gloriously and hilariously [[AvertedTrope averted]]. This film may be one of the best arguments to counter this trope there is.
30th Sep '15 3:08:35 AM jeez
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted. This film may be one of the best arguments to counter this trope there is.

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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted.Gloriously and hilariously [[AvertedTrope averted]]. This film may be one of the best arguments to counter this trope there is.
30th Sep '15 3:06:41 AM jeez
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--> '''Military Justice Wilhelm Schramm''', a couple of days before the end of the war.

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--> '''Military Justice Wilhelm Schramm''', [[TemptingFate a couple of days before the end of of]] [[WorldWar2 the war.
war]].
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