History Film / ReturnToOz

12th Apr '16 9:03:04 PM Josef5678
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'''''Return to Oz''''' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' Creator/{{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.

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'''''Return ''Return to Oz''''' Oz'' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' Creator/{{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.
8th Apr '16 6:40:25 PM TimG5
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* EatingTheEnemy: After Dorothy solves the Nome King's riddle and frees four of her five friends from their emerald imprisonment, the Nome King decides to go back on his deal with Dorothy and eat her and her friends by becoming a OneWingedAngel rock monster. He's able to eat Gump's couch body and is about to eat Jack when all of a sudden, Billina pops out of Jack's head. Out of fright, [[BowelBreakingBricks she suddenly lays an egg]] that falls right into the Nome King's mouth. What the gang didn't know up until that point was that [[WeaksauceWeakness chicken eggs are the Nome King's weakness]] and the egg kills the Nome King.
11th Feb '16 8:22:25 PM NOYB
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** So is the Nome King with Dr. Worley, in both ways. Both are portrayed by the same actor, just like Nurse Wilson and Princess Mombi. This reflects how in the original, the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Cowardly Lion were all representative of three of the (film only) farmhands from Dorothy's home in Kansas.

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** So is the Nome King with Dr. Worley, in both ways. Both are portrayed by the same actor, just like Nurse Wilson and Princess Mombi. This reflects how in the original, the Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Cowardly Lion were all representative of three of the (film only) (film-only) farmhands from Dorothy's home in Kansas.
21st Oct '15 6:35:56 PM nombretomado
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'''''Return to Oz''''' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' {{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.

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'''''Return to Oz''''' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' {{Disney}}) Creator/{{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.
1st Oct '15 6:37:56 PM Psi001
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** FauxAffablyEvil: [[spoiler: When Mombi arrives however, he reveals his sadistic nature, admitting to her he only gave her a chance because it's more fun to watch. He soon blatantly proves he never had any intention of actually going through with the bargain if she won. The Novelisation also insinuates most of his sympathetic act was just to toy with Dorothy while she was down.]]
23rd May '15 12:20:51 PM randomguy399
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* DemotedToExtra: Dorothy's friends from the original movie (Scarecrow, Tin Man, and Cowardly Lion). The Scarecrow doesn't appear until Dorothy reaches the Nome King's Mountain (which is about eighty minutes in) and the latter two only appear [[spoiler:(moving)]] during the crowd scene at the end.


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: The Nome King mentions that after Dorothy used the Ruby Slippers to return home, they just "fell out of the sky one day", and their power inadvertently allowed him to conquer the Emerald City and turn most of Oz into a desolate wasteland.


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* WhatYouAreInTheDark: Before Dorothy enters the ornament room to wind up Tik-Tok and make her three guesses, The Nome King, who has Dorothy's Ruby Slippers, instead gives her the chance to return home without any recollection of Oz. Dorothy, knowing full well that she could become an ornament herself and ''never'' go back to Kansas, refuses to leave her friends behind, and enters the room.
10th Apr '15 6:59:29 PM nombretomado
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'''''Return to Oz''''' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' {{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.

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'''''Return to Oz''''' is a Walt Disney film (yes, ''[[DisneyAnimatedCanon ''[[Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon that]]'' {{Disney}}) made in 1985, which was supposed to be both a semi-sequel to the {{M|etroGoldwynMayer}}GM ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' and a more accurate adaptation of [[AdaptationDisplacement the more obscure]] [[Literature/LandOfOz original printed-page L. Frank Baum books]]. For the most part, those who never watched any trailers or commercials for the movie expected a cheerful [[TheMusical musical]] with [[TastesLikeDiabetes bright sets and visuals]] and dancing, friendly Munchkins.
10th Apr '15 12:40:24 PM fearlessnikki
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Nurse Wilson might be a bit of a sadist, but she's hardly going to let two little girls drown in a river.



* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the mysterious girl who rescues Dorothy? They never say if they found her after the rainstorm. [[spoiler:Unless you assume she's Ozma for real.]]
** [[spoiler:Or that she was a figment (either of imagination or magic) only Dorothy could see in the real world. The head nurse only said "So!" when she found her/them, after all.]]
*** [[spoiler:She untied Dorothy from the stretcher (that eerily resembles the Wheelers), so even if only Dorothy could see her, she can at least physically act in the real world.]]
*** Auntie Em did say everyone but [[spoiler:the doctor]] was rescued...
*** The novelization by Joan D. Vinge has Aunt Em sadly telling Dorothy the mysterious girl remains missing. Interpret that how you will.
*** [[spoiler:Either she was real, but drowned in the river during the escape, and Dorothy [[OrWasItADream imagined]] her as Ozma to delude herself that she survived, or she was a construct for Ozma's soul while being trapped in the mirror (a window to our world, like in the finale), so when Dorothy freed her, the body simply disappeared.]]
*** [[spoiler: "It's you. I was afraid you had drowned." This more or less confirms that Ozma was in fact the girl in question.]]

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the mysterious WhatHappenedToTheMouse:
** The
girl who rescues Dorothy? They never say if they found her after helps Dorothy escape from the rainstorm. [[spoiler:Unless you assume hospital at the beginning. It's a hot topic of debate among fans whether she's Ozma for real.]]
** [[spoiler:Or that she was a figment (either of imagination or magic) only Dorothy could see in the real world. The head nurse only said "So!" when she found her/them, after all.]]
*** [[spoiler:She untied Dorothy from the stretcher (that eerily resembles the Wheelers), so even if only Dorothy could see her, she can at least physically act in the real world.]]
*** Auntie Em did say everyone but [[spoiler:the doctor]] was rescued...
*** The novelization by Joan D. Vinge has Aunt Em sadly telling Dorothy the mysterious girl remains missing. Interpret that how you will.
*** [[spoiler:Either she was real, but drowned in the river during the escape, and Dorothy [[OrWasItADream imagined]] her as Ozma to delude herself that she survived, or she was a construct for Ozma's soul while being trapped in the mirror (a window to our world, like in the finale), so when Dorothy freed her, the body simply disappeared.]]
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just [[spoiler: "It's you. I was afraid Princess Ozma or her Kansas counterpart]]. Dorothy's line "I thought you had drowned." This more or less drowned" when [[spoiler: meeting Ozma]] confirms that Ozma was in fact Dorothy at least believes they are the girl in question.]] same person.



** Alongside this -- why was the Head Nurse being carted off to jail at the end? Although the implication earlier was that the Electroshock Therapy wasn't always successful, it's never actually ''stated'' why she was arrested.
*** [[spoiler:Remember those patients the mysterious girl mentioned? The ones that were locked in the cellar because they were "damaged". It's entirely possible that the authorities found them during the fire. Since the doctor is no longer around to prosecute, they arrested Nurse Wilson and possibly the other staff members, who were probably in on it too.]]
* WhyDontYouJustShootHim: Mombi asks the Nome King why he doesn't turn our heroes into ornaments. The Nome King's response? "[[ComplexityAddiction It's more fun this way!]]"
** Which later reveals him as a BadBoss once [[spoiler:Dorothy starts winning the game by freeing four of five of her missing friends-as-ornaments. The Nome King starts yelling at Mombi for being the one responsible for this debacle because she ''"let her escape!"'']]

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** Alongside this -- why was the Head Nurse being carted off to jail at the end? Although the implication earlier was that the Electroshock Therapy wasn't always successful, it's never actually ''stated'' why she was arrested.
*** [[spoiler:Remember those patients the mysterious girl mentioned? The ones that were locked in the cellar because they were "damaged". It's entirely possible that the authorities found them during the fire. Since the doctor is no longer around to prosecute, they arrested Nurse Wilson and possibly the other staff members, who were probably in on it too.]]
* WhyDontYouJustShootHim: Mombi asks the Nome King why he doesn't turn our heroes into ornaments. The Nome King's response? "[[ComplexityAddiction It's more fun this way!]]"
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way!]]" Which later reveals him as a BadBoss once [[spoiler:Dorothy starts winning the game by freeing four of five of her missing friends-as-ornaments. The Nome King starts yelling at Mombi for being the one responsible for this debacle because she ''"let her escape!"'']]
31st Mar '15 10:27:36 PM dsneybuf
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** The [[http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Return-to-Oz-Blu-ray/42176/ 30th Anniversary Blu-Ray]] cover also overstates the involvement of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, and the Lion, with FloatingHeadSyndrome to boot. It also has a rainbow over Dorothy and her friends, for no apparent reason other than to reference the song "Over the Rainbow".

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** The [[http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Return-to-Oz-Blu-ray/42176/ 30th Anniversary Blu-Ray]] cover also again overstates the involvement of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, and the Lion, with FloatingHeadSyndrome to boot. It also has a rainbow over Dorothy and her friends, for no apparent reason other than to reference the song "Over the Rainbow".
31st Mar '15 10:22:45 PM dsneybuf
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** The [[http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Return-to-Oz-Blu-ray/42176/ 30th Anniversary Blu-Ray]] cover also overstates the involvement of the Scarecrow, the Tin Man, and the Lion, with FloatingHeadSyndrome to boot. It also has a rainbow over Dorothy and her friends, for no apparent reason other than to reference the song "Over the Rainbow".
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