History Film / PitchBlack

13th May '18 5:27:08 PM Kyoko
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* JerkassHasAPoint:
** Carolyn is outraged to find out that Johns is a morphine addict when her copilot died in pain without relief. Johns states that the entire reason he's an addict in the first place is because of a piece of a shiv Riddick left right next to his spine that causes him nearly constant pain. He can still feel it rubbing against his spine and shows the wound to Carolyn.
-->'''Johns:''' ''"You feel that? Riddick did that. He went for the sweet spot and missed."''
* JerkWithAHeartOfJerk: [[spoiler: You would be forgiven for thinking that Riddick actually cares for the others in the group. He doesn't.]]
13th May '18 5:23:22 PM Kyoko
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** [[spoiler: But it's {{Averted}} once more as Fry convinces him to go back for them and he does.]]



** Johns pretends to be a brave, upstanding man of the law at first, but is eventually revealed as a cowardly, self-serving junkie mercenary. He steals all the morphine so Owens has to die in agony. After the aliens come out during the eclipse, he stays back and lets the others investigate even though he's the only one with a gun, uses Jack as an excuse to hide his own fear, and [[spoiler:is prepared to kill Jack and use her as bait to distract the creatures, causing Riddick to kill him.]]

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** Johns pretends to be a brave, upstanding man of the law at first, but is eventually revealed as a cowardly, self-serving junkie mercenary. He steals all the morphine so Owens has to die in agony. He's so convinced that Riddick is going to kill them all, or hell, he just wants to deliver him for the bounty, that he makes Fry and the others wait until the last second to bring up the cells and then the eclipse hits, so they all get trapped in the dark. After the aliens come out during the eclipse, he stays back and lets the others investigate even though he's the only one with a gun, uses Jack as an excuse to hide his own fear, and [[spoiler:is prepared to kill Jack and use her as bait to distract the creatures, causing Riddick to kill him.]]



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Played with. It's left ambiguous as to whether Riddick refuses to kill the teenage Jack and instead [[spoiler:ghosts Johns]] on moral grounds because he crossed a line, or [[PragmaticVillainy simple opportunism]]. His second option gives Riddick control of the group, revenge, and a target off his back. He later rescues Jack yet again, [[spoiler:but leaves her to die just as quickly.]]

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Played with. It's left ambiguous as to whether Riddick refuses to kill the teenage Jack and instead [[spoiler:ghosts Johns]] on moral grounds because he crossed a line, or [[PragmaticVillainy simple opportunism]]. His second option gives Riddick control of the group, revenge, and a target off his back. He later rescues Jack yet again, [[spoiler:but leaves her to die just as quickly.quickly until Fry convinces him to go back for them.]]



* EvilCannotComprehendGood: [[spoiler: Riddick, while initially coming off as a morally ambiguous and even somewhat likable character, (almost to the point his past a mass murderer comes across as something of an InformedAttribute) shows what kind of a person he really is by the end when he rather apathetically decides to abandon the others entirely for his own benefit. When Carolyn confronts him, he seems to enjoy (correctly) pointing out to her that she herself is really no better than he is, as she like him was entirely willing to sacrifice the rest of the passengers to save herself at the beginning of the story, and he almost seems to see her as a kindred spirit of sorts. [[SadisticChoice He even offers to take her with him, thereby knowingly saving her own life at the expense of the others]], and tries to goad her into stooping to his level. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame She chooses to have none of it]] and [[ShutUpHannibal rejects that she is anything like Riddick]] by [[{{Redemption}} refusing to leave Jack and Imam behind]]. Riddick chooses to help her, intrigued by her decision.]]

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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: [[spoiler: Riddick, while initially coming off as a morally ambiguous and even somewhat likable character, (almost to the point his past a mass murderer comes across as something of an InformedAttribute) shows what kind of a person he really is by the end when he rather apathetically decides to abandon the others entirely for his own benefit. When Carolyn confronts him, he seems to enjoy (correctly) pointing out to her that she herself is really no better than he is, as she like him was entirely willing to sacrifice the rest of the passengers to save herself at the beginning of the story, and he almost seems to see her as a kindred spirit of sorts. [[SadisticChoice He even offers to take her with him, thereby knowingly saving her own life at the expense of the others]], and tries to goad her into stooping to his level. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame She chooses to have none of it]] and [[ShutUpHannibal rejects that she is anything like Riddick]] by [[{{Redemption}} refusing to leave Jack and Imam behind]]. Riddick chooses to help her, intrigued by her decision.]]



** Johns also repeatedly stresses to Carolyn that Riddick is someone to be genuinely wary of. Johns is a junkie coward and a prick who still operates within the bounds of the law, while Riddick is a dangerous killer who would [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness sacrifice all of them in an instant]] if he could. [[spoiler:Johns's point is proven when Riddick leaves Carolyn, Jack and Imam behind to die when they have outlived their usefulness.]]



* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted when Riddick ''smells'' that Jack is menstruating, outing her as a girl.

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* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted when Riddick ''smells'' that [[spoiler: Jack is menstruating, outing her as actually a girl.teen girl, and well, you put the rest together...]]



** This almost happened to [[spoiler: Riddick. In the original script, Riddick was supposed to die instead of Fry]]. Executive Meddling put a stop to that, since [[spoiler: ''The Chronicles of Carolyn Fry'' would not have made for a decent sequel.]]

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** This almost happened to [[spoiler: Riddick. In the original script, Riddick was supposed to die instead of Fry]]. Executive Meddling ExecutiveMeddling put a stop to that, since [[spoiler: ''The Chronicles of Carolyn Fry'' would not have made for a decent sequel.]]



* SympathyForTheHero: [[spoiler:This is the source of Riddick's redemption. He's a borderline sociopathic murderer who has been killing people all his life to escape his past and will sacrifice anyone to save himself. Carolyn Fry starts out much the same way; while not being a criminal she's willing to jettison all the passengers in the opening and tries to cope with the guilt for the rest of the movie. Riddick initially admires Fry for her "strong survival instinct" and offers her at the end to leave the planet together by threatening to leave her behind to die if she doesn't. She eventually refuses and professes her willingness to die for the others. This declared intent of self-sacrifice intrigues Riddick enough to go back with her.]]
* TakeAMomentToCatchYourDeath: The death of [[spoiler: the female lead at the end after she and Riddick survive a confrontation with two of the monsters when another lunges out of the dark and snatches her up (it's unclear and debated if Riddick may have caused her death by accidentally stabbing her in the "catch your breath" moment, attracting the last creature to the scent of her blood)]]

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* SympathyForTheHero: [[spoiler:This is the source of Riddick's redemption. He's a borderline sociopathic murderer who has been killing people all his life to escape his past and will sacrifice anyone to save himself.people, though we're never told if it's for pleasure or survival. Carolyn Fry starts out much the same way; while not being a criminal she's willing to jettison all the passengers in the opening and tries to cope with the guilt for the rest of the movie. Riddick initially admires Fry for her "strong survival instinct" and offers her at the end to leave the planet together by threatening to leave her behind to die if she doesn't. She eventually refuses and professes her willingness to die for the others. This declared intent of self-sacrifice intrigues Riddick enough to go back with her.]]
* TakeAMomentToCatchYourDeath: The death of [[spoiler: the female lead at the end after she and Riddick survive a confrontation with two of the monsters when another lunges out of the dark and snatches her up (it's unclear and debated if Riddick may have caused her death by accidentally stabbing her in the "catch your breath" moment, attracting the last creature to the scent of her blood)]]up.]]



* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Johns constantly warns the others that if they give Riddick the opportunity to betray them and escape the planet by himself, he'll leave them all behind to die. They delay bringing all the power cells to the skiff until the last minute, but they held off too long and the aliens wake up. [[spoiler:He's proven right, since as soon as Riddick gets the chance, he steals the cells and traps the other survivors in a cave, planning to take off alone. Carolyn's willingness to sacrifice herself for the other two motivates him to go back and rescue them.]]

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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Johns constantly warns the others that if they give [[spoiler: Riddick cooperates with most of the opportunity to betray them group's plan until they reach the canyon and escape he can't protect the planet by himself, he'll leave them all behind group as well as himself any longer. However, he does end up overriding this notion after offering to die. They delay bringing all the power cells to save only Fry when she reaches the skiff until the last minute, alone but they held off too long and the aliens wake up. [[spoiler:He's proven right, since as soon as Riddick gets the chance, he steals the cells and traps the other survivors in a cave, planning to take off alone. Carolyn's willingness to sacrifice herself for the other two motivates convinces him to go back and rescue them.return with her.]]
19th Apr '18 3:35:34 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ConvenientlyClosePlanet: It's a good thing the interstellar freighter which was 22 months out from its port was passing so close to an inhabitable moon when the artificial pilot malfunctioned, isn't it?

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* ConvenientlyClosePlanet: ConvenientlyClosePlanet:
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It's a good thing the interstellar freighter which was 22 months out from its port was passing so close to an inhabitable moon when the artificial pilot malfunctioned, isn't it?
4th Apr '18 5:33:37 PM Morgenthaler
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* DeathOfAChild: One of the first victims is a youngster.



* InfantImmortality: Averted. One of the first victims is a youngster.
2nd Apr '18 12:15:56 AM lorgskyegon
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* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted when Riddick ''smells'' that Jack is menstruating, outing her as a girl.
16th Mar '18 8:41:17 PM JackG
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* ObliviousGuiltSlinging: The survivors praise Carolyn for having got them down safely, not knowing that she tried to jettison their cargo compartment.



** Keep in mind, it ''was'' redemption for [[spoiler: Carolyn, since she almost sacrificed her crew to save herself at the start of the film]].

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** Keep in mind, it ''was'' redemption for [[spoiler: Carolyn, since she almost sacrificed her crew passengers to save herself at the start of the film]].
25th Aug '17 4:21:30 AM ShamanOfHedon
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** The third movie answers this question when Riddick tells Johns' angry father why he did it. [[spoiler:He thought Johns was a [[DirtyCoward coward]] for being willing to sacrifice a child to survive, something he himself finds repulsive, thus confirming the Pitch Black example was ultimately being played fully straight.]]
21st Aug '17 1:45:53 PM Morgenthaler
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* EyelessFace: The bioraptors don't possess any eyes, since they're nocturnal creatures that hunt by echolocation.
17th Jun '17 8:35:52 AM ErikModi
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-->'''David Twohy''' ''(in the commentary track)'': To all the twelve-year-old boys in the audience; you're welcome.
13th Jun '17 9:15:17 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AgainstMyReligion: Imam refuses to drink liquor because he's a Muslim, even though its the only thing drinkable for the moment. Which is not well researched regarding Islam: Imam's position in the film is dire, stuck on a desert planet with no other food or water, and he has two children to look after. In Islam, if the situation is dire enough to threaten one's life by lack of halal food and clean (no alcohol) drinks, Muslims are permitted to consume any available meat (meat of a lizard, meat of a dog or pig) or drink alcohol, just to survive until help comes. This is, however, somewhat mitigated by the fact that the alcohol in question seems to be some form of moonshine, homebrew whiskey, or bathtub gin- which would only dehydrate the drinker more in the long run, and their high alcohol content would leave an unaccustomed drinker floored.

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* AgainstMyReligion: Imam refuses to drink liquor because he's a Muslim, even though its it's the only thing drinkable for the moment. Which is not well researched regarding Islam: Imam's position in the film is dire, stuck on a desert planet with no other food or water, and he has two children to look after. In Islam, if the situation is dire enough to threaten one's life by lack of halal food and clean (no alcohol) drinks, Muslims are permitted to consume any available meat (meat of a lizard, meat of a dog or pig) or drink alcohol, just to survive until help comes. This is, however, somewhat mitigated by the fact that the alcohol in question seems to be some form of moonshine, homebrew whiskey, or bathtub gin- which would only dehydrate the drinker more in the long run, and their high alcohol content would leave an unaccustomed drinker floored.
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