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* AmbiguousDisorder: Max Renn is never diagnosed, but he suffers from intensive social withdrawal, obsessive compulsiveness, chronic migraines, psychotic episodes, and possesses savant-like abilities in regards to mathematics (performing division on par with a pocket calculator).
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Max Renn Cohen is never diagnosed, but he suffers from intensive social withdrawal, obsessive compulsiveness, chronic migraines, psychotic episodes, and possesses savant-like abilities in regards to mathematics (performing division on par with a pocket calculator).
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Max Renn is never diagnosed, but he suffers from intensive social withdrawal, obsessive compulsiveness, chronic migraines, psychotic episodes, and possesses savant-like abilities in regards to mathematics (performing standard division on par with a pocket calculator).
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Max Renn is never diagnosed, but he suffers from intensive social withdrawal, obsessive compulsiveness, chronic migraines, psychotic episodes, and possesses savant-like abilities in regards to mathematics (performing standard division on par with a pocket calculator).
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* AmbiguousDisorder: Max Renn is never diagnosed, but he suffers from intensive social withdrawal, obsessive compulsiveness, chronic migraines, psychotic episodes, and possesses savant-like abilities in regards to mathematics (performing standard division on par with a pocket calculator).
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* {{God}}: The Jewish group believes that the universal number is the true name of God, and that they will come closer to the Messianic Age by invoking it. Max is ambivalent about this notion, but feels that only he is worthy because it was given to him.
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* CyberpunkIsTechno: By ClintMansell (such as the film's theme-slash-LeitMotif for Max) with contributions from other groups like Massive Attack.
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* CyberpunkIsTechno: By ClintMansell Music/ClintMansell (such as the film's theme-slash-LeitMotif for Max) with contributions from other groups like Massive Attack.Music/MassiveAttack. Their song "Angel" from ''Music/{{Mezzanine}}'' is used on the soundtrack.
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* Foreshadowing: If asked why he stopped searching for patterns within the digits of pi, Sol (in most instances) reacts dismissively. After mentioning Euclid's "crash," Max begins to suspect this nonchalance has been [[DarkSecret deliberately misleading]]:
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* Foreshadowing: {{Foreshadowing}}: If asked why he stopped searching for patterns within the digits of pi, Sol (in most instances) reacts dismissively. After mentioning Euclid's "crash," Max begins to suspect this nonchalance has been [[DarkSecret deliberately misleading]]:
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-->What is it? A hundred and fifty, a thousand, uh——[[SayingTooMuch 216]]!? How '''''many'''''?
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-->What is it? A hundred and fifty, a thousand, uh——[[SayingTooMuch 216]]!? thousand? [[{{Beat}} Uh]]—— [[SayingTooMuch Two-hundred and sixteen]]!? How '''''many'''''?
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* Foreshadowing: If asked why he stopped searching for patterns within the digits of pi, Sol (in most instances) reacts dismissively. After mentioning Euclid's "crash," Max begins to suspect this nonchalance has been [[DarkSecret deliberately misleading]]:
-->Max:
-->Just a long string of digits—
-->Sol:
-->How ''many''?
-->Max:
-->[shrugs] I don't know...
-->Sol (intense):
-->What is it? A hundred and fifty, a thousand, uh——[[SayingTooMuch 216]]!? How '''''many'''''?
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-->Max:
-->Just a long string of digits—
-->Sol:
-->How ''many''?
-->Max:
-->[shrugs] I don't know...
-->Sol (intense):
-->What is it? A hundred and fifty, a thousand, uh——[[SayingTooMuch 216]]!? How '''''many'''''?
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* CoolOldGuy: Saul, Max's former teacher, mentor and friend. As well as giving Max sage advice on getting on with life, not becoming obsessed with his work and coaching him in [[SmartPeoplePlayChess Go]] [[spoiler:it's all but stated outright that Saul discovered the number long before Max did]].
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* TechnologyPorn: Averted for most of the film with Max's supercomputer "Euclid"; it's quite obviously home-made, and looks it. Played straight when Marcy Dawson offers him a "Ming Mecca" chip as payment and Max is utterly incredulous that she could get her hands on anything so powerful.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, up to her last scene, where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply. The Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
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* AffablyEvil: AffablyEvil:
** Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, up to her last scene, where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him tocomply. comply.
** The kabbalistic Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
** Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, up to her last scene, where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to
** The kabbalistic Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even thinking that regular events he performs add up to 216 (amount of steps he takes to get somewhere, amount of seconds in an elevator, etc). Dawson and the Jews [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane appear to]] showcase this devolving, thinking that Max's number is the key to manipulate the stock market (not "predict", ''manipulate'') and that it's God's name, respectively.
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: SharpshooterFallacy: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even thinking that regular events he performs add up to 216 (amount of steps he takes to get somewhere, amount of seconds in an elevator, etc). Dawson and the Jews [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane appear to]] showcase this devolving, thinking that Max's number is the key to manipulate the stock market (not "predict", ''manipulate'') and that it's God's name, respectively.
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Chained sinkholes.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyShouting scene]], where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply. The Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyShouting scene]], up to her last scene, where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply. The Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
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* AppledPhlebotium: The "Ming Mecca" computer chip that Dawson uses to bait Max, and provides Euclid the processing power to fully realise the number. Max is disbelieving that the firm can even provide it (because they're classified technology), but Dawson simply says [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections that the firm has plenty of connections]].
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* AppledPhlebotium: AppliedPhlebotinum: The "Ming Mecca" computer chip that Dawson uses to bait Max, and provides Euclid the processing power to fully realise the number. Max is disbelieving that the firm can even provide it (because they're classified technology), but Dawson simply says [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections that the firm has plenty of connections]].
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* AppledPhlebotinum: The "Ming Mecca" computer chip that Dawson uses to bait Max, and provides Euclid the processing power to fully realise the number. Max is disbelieving that the firm can even provide it (because they're classified technology), but Dawson simply says [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections that the firm has plenty of connections]].
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* AppledPhlebotinum: AppledPhlebotium: The "Ming Mecca" computer chip that Dawson uses to bait Max, and provides Euclid the processing power to fully realise the number. Max is disbelieving that the firm can even provide it (because they're classified technology), but Dawson simply says [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections that the firm has plenty of connections]].
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* AppledPhlebotinum: The "Ming Mecca" computer chip that Dawson uses to bait Max, and provides Euclid the processing power to fully realise the number. Max is disbelieving that the firm can even provide it (because they're classified technology), but Dawson simply says [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections that the firm has plenty of connections]].
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even thinking that regular events he performs add up to 216 (amount of steps he takes to get somewhere, amount of seconds in an elevator, etc).
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even thinking that regular events he performs add up to 216 (amount of steps he takes to get somewhere, amount of seconds in an elevator, etc). Dawson and the Jews [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane appear to]] showcase this devolving, thinking that Max's number is the key to manipulate the stock market (not "predict", ''manipulate'') and that it's God's name, respectively.
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* ICallItVera: "Euclid", Max's home-made super-computer.
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even seeing the amount of steps he takes to get somewhere add up to 216.
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even seeing the amount thinking that regular events he performs add up to 216 (amount of steps he takes to get somewhere add up to 216.somewhere, amount of seconds in an elevator, etc).
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRefuseYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even seeing the amount of steps he takes to get somewhere add up to 216.
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRefuseYourReality: IRejectYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even seeing the amount of steps he takes to get somewhere add up to 216.
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* SharpshooterFallacy / IRefuseYourReality: Sol warns Max against obsessing over the 216-digit number (and overworking in general) because if he does so he will stop being a mathematician and turn into a "numerologist", starting to look for any way to shove a meaning to the number, even seeing the amount of steps he takes to get somewhere add up to 216.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyShouting scene]], where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyShouting scene]], where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply. The Jews as well, explaining to Max the reason for their obsession, being genuinely sorry when one of their own punches Max in the face, and letting Max go when he refuses to give them the number (although Max explains it by saying that the group must have already tried all possible 216-digit combinations and haven't gotten the answer they seek, which they acknowledge).
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Ants (as in "buggy" computers and decay), the slime (Euclid's decay, same as Max), numbers (especially the Golden Ratio-[[MadMathematician duh]]), brains (hallucinations leading to insanity and self-trepanation).
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Ants (as in "buggy" computers and decay), the slime (Euclid's decay, same as Max), numbers (especially the Golden Ratio-[[MadMathematician duh]]), brains (hallucinations leading to insanity [[spoiler: and self-trepanation).self-trepanation]]), God (like the stock prediction firm's slogan [[BlasphemousBoast of "Only God is Perfect" to reflect their 80% accuracy]], the group of Jews looking for God's true name by working numerology on the Torah, some of Max's breakdowns looking like religious experiences).
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* InnerNarration: Done by Max; train-of-thought stuff such as telling at what time he's doing an action, his MadnessMantra, and remembering factoids that reinforce it.
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* InnerNarration: InnerMonologue: Done by Max; train-of-thought stuff such as telling at what time he's doing an action, his MadnessMantra, and remembering factoids that reinforce it.
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* InnerNarration: Done by Max; train-of-thought stuff such as telling at what time he's doing an action, his MadnessMantra, and remembering factoids that reinforce it.
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Ants (as in "buggy" computers and decay), the slime (Euclid's decay, same as Max), numbers ([[MadMathematician duh]]).
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Ants (as in "buggy" computers and decay), the slime (Euclid's decay, same as Max), numbers ([[MadMathematician duh]]).(especially the Golden Ratio-[[MadMathematician duh]]), brains (hallucinations leading to insanity and self-trepanation).
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Ants (as in "buggy" computers and decay), the slime (Euclid's decay, same as Max), numbers ([[MadMathematician duh]]).
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* CyberpunkIsTechno: The movie's soundtrack is one of the first film efforts of ClintMansell (such as the film's theme-slash-LeitMotif for Max) with contributions from other groups like Massive Attack.
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* CyberpunkIsTechno: The movie's soundtrack is one of the first film efforts of By ClintMansell (such as the film's theme-slash-LeitMotif for Max) with contributions from other groups like Massive Attack.
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* HellIsThatNoise: The high-pitched beep that sounds every time Max has a migraine attack.
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Either the number really is connected to God and Max's insanity is due to some supernatural force, or the number is just a really complex equation that Max obsesses over to the point of insanity. The climax counts as well since it could be literal or symbolic.
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Either the number really is connected to God and Max's insanity is due to some supernatural force, or the number is just a really complex equation that Max obsesses over to the point of insanity.insanity (and he's just lucky/unlucky enough to meet other people with a similar obsession). The climax counts as well since it could be literal or symbolic.
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* CreatorThumbprint: The first of various Aronofsky films with an underlying theme of "obsession leading to destruction".
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyScreaming scene]], where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply.
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* AffablyEvil: Marcy Dawson, who tries to swindle Max to help her stock prediction firm with regular sweet-talking, [[ScaryBlackMan up]] [[VillainousBreakdown to]] [[TheSocialDarwinist her]] [[BitchInSheepsClothing last]] [[SuddenlyScreaming [[SuddenlyShouting scene]], where she's putting a gun to Max's head to ''force'' him to comply.
