History Film / OceansEleven

6th Aug '16 6:44:20 PM JamesAustin
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* AcceptableTargets: In-universe in ''Twelve'' regarding Toulour: "We're not doomed. He's one guy and he's ''French''."
6th Aug '16 6:28:34 PM JamesAustin
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* TakeThat: Terry's sarcastic advice to not pay cash for an expensive Newport Beach sports car is undoubtedly a dig at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wynn Kevyn Wynn's kidnappers,]] who were apprehended when one attempted to buy a Ferrari in Newport Beach, California, with cash.

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* TakeThat: Terry's sarcastic advice to not pay cash for an expensive Newport Beach sports car is undoubtedly a dig at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wynn Kevyn Wynn's kidnappers,]] who were apprehended when one attempted to buy a Ferrari in Newport Beach, California, Beach with cash.
6th Aug '16 6:24:14 PM JamesAustin
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* ThirtySecondBlackout: With the excuse that AppliedPhlebotinum did it... and with predictable consequences inside the casino.



* AppetiteForApathy: A running gag is that Rusty is almost always snacking on something, showing his nonchalance.
* AvengersAssemble
* BadAssFamily: The Caldwells -- Linus' mom and dad are legendary thieves themselves [[spoiler:and save the day in ''Twelve'' and ''Thirteen'', respectively by ''[[RefugeInAudacity posing as FBI agents on both occasions]]''.]]
* BadAssGrandpa: Saul may not show it much but there is an exchange in the first film wherein he demonstrates that despite his age, make no mistake, he is a very experienced con man and he is ''not'' to be trifled with.

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* AppetiteForApathy: A running gag is that Rusty is almost always snacking on something, showing his nonchalance.
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%%* AvengersAssemble
* BadAssFamily: BadassFamily: The Caldwells -- Linus' mom and dad are legendary thieves themselves [[spoiler:and save the day in ''Twelve'' and ''Thirteen'', respectively by ''[[RefugeInAudacity posing as FBI agents on both occasions]]''.]]
* BadAssGrandpa: BadassGrandpa: Saul may not show it much but there is an exchange in the first film wherein he demonstrates that despite his age, make no mistake, he is a very experienced con man and he is ''not'' to be trifled with.



** {{The Oprah Winfrey Show}} in ''Thirteen''.

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** {{The Oprah Winfrey Show}} ''Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow'' in ''Thirteen''.



* CallBack: In ''Thirteen'', ''Clair de Lune'' playing as Rusty and Danny come to the same spot where the gang gathered at the end of "Eleven''.

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* CallBack: In ''Thirteen'', ''Clair de Lune'' playing as Rusty and Danny come to the same spot where the gang gathered at the end of "Eleven''.''Eleven''.



** The young 20-something actors in ''Eleven'': ([[Series/SeventhHeaven Barry Watson]], [[Series/That70sShow Topher Grace]], Creator/HollyMarieCombs, [[Film/AWalkToRemember Shane West]], and [[Series/DawsonsCreek Joshua Jackson]]), all of whom are terrible at TabletopGame/{{Poker}}. Grace appears again in ''Twelve''.

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** The young 20-something actors in ''Eleven'': ([[Series/SeventhHeaven Barry Watson]], [[Series/That70sShow Topher Grace]], Creator/HollyMarieCombs, [[Series/{{Charmed}} Holly Marie Combs]], [[Film/AWalkToRemember Shane West]], and [[Series/DawsonsCreek Joshua Jackson]]), all of whom are terrible at TabletopGame/{{Poker}}. Grace appears again in ''Twelve''.



* CelebrityParadox / YourCostumeNeedsWork:

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* CelebrityParadox / YourCostumeNeedsWork: CelebrityParadox:



* CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys / ThoseWackyNazis: When Reuben (who's Jewish) is describing why it's impossible to rob a casino.

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* CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys / ThoseWackyNazis: CheeseEatingSurrenderMonkeys: When Reuben (who's Jewish) is describing why it's impossible to rob a casino.



* DescriptionCut: When Danny and Rusty go to recruit Livingston:
-->'''Danny:''' How are his nerves?
-->'''Rusty:''' OK. Not so bad that you'll notice.
-->''*cut to Livingston being a neurotic, skittish control freak while working surveillance with the FBI*''

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* DescriptionCut: DescriptionCut:
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When Danny and Rusty go to recruit Livingston:
-->'''Danny:''' --->'''Danny:''' How are his nerves?
-->'''Rusty:'''
nerves?\\
'''Rusty:'''
OK. Not so bad that you'll notice.
-->''*cut
notice.\\
''[cut
to Livingston being a neurotic, skittish control freak while working surveillance with the FBI*''FBI]''



* DressingAsTheEnemy: [[spoiler:The surprise tactic by which the team escapes with the money in the first film? Coming in ''as the [=SWAT=] team'' summoned to apprehend them, faces concealed by their police helmets, then walking out with the loot in their equipment bags.]]

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* DressingAsTheEnemy: DressingAsTheEnemy:
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[[spoiler:The surprise tactic by which the team escapes with the money in the first film? Coming in ''as the [=SWAT=] team'' summoned to apprehend them, faces concealed by their police helmets, then walking out with the loot in their equipment bags.]]



* GambitRoulette

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* GambitRouletteGambitRoulette: The plans of the main characters in all three films require everything to interlock absolutely perfectly. However, [[XanatosSpeedChess they have to adjust the plans several times due to unexpected variables]].



-->'''Rusty:''' I wonder what Reuben will say.
-->[Cut.]
-->'''Reuben:''' You're outta your God damn minds!
* GiveMeBackMyWallet

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-->'''Rusty:''' I wonder what Reuben will say.
-->[Cut.]
-->'''Reuben:'''
say.\\
''[cut to:]''\\
'''Reuben:'''
You're outta your God damn minds!
* GiveMeBackMyWalletGiveMeBackMyWallet: In ''Eleven'', Danny watches Linus pick someone's pocket on a train. Later, Linus discovers that Danny has picked his pocket and replaced the wallet with a note complimenting him and offering him a job. Later Linus does Danny one better by lifting a plane ticket that Danny still has his hand on without him noticing.



* HeyWait

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* HeyWaitHeyWait: In ''Eleven'', Livingston is stopped after bugging the casino's camera system...because the other employee noticed that he dropped his portable TV (which, unbeknownst to the employee, is what he's using to view the camera feeds).



* InvoluntaryCharityDonation: As payback for an attempted double-cross by [[EnemyMine Benedict]] in ''[[OceansEleven Ocean's Thirteen]]'', the crew donates his entire share of the profits to charity. The film ends with Danny, Rusty, and Linus watching Benedict talk to [[TheOprahWinfreyShow Oprah]] about his sudden burst of generosity.

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* InvoluntaryCharityDonation: As payback for an attempted double-cross by [[EnemyMine Benedict]] in ''[[OceansEleven Ocean's Thirteen]]'', ''Ocean's Thirteen'', the crew donates his entire share of the profits to charity. The film ends with Danny, Rusty, and Linus watching Benedict talk to [[TheOprahWinfreyShow [[Series/TheOprahWinfreyShow Oprah]] about his sudden burst of generosity.



* LenoDevice: Terry Benedict appears on "Oprah" at the end of ''Thirteen''.

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* LenoDevice: Terry Benedict appears on "Oprah" ''Oprah'' at the end of ''Thirteen''.



--> '''Linus:''' ''[receiving instruction]''\\
'''Rusty:''' ...Don't use three words when one will do; don't shift your eyes. Look always at your mark, but don't stare. Be specific but not memorable; be funny but don't make him laugh. He's gotta like you, and then forget you the moment you've left his sight. And for God's sake, whatever you do, don't, under ''any'' circumstances --\\

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--> '''Linus:''' ''[receiving instruction]''\\
'''Rusty:''' ...
'''Rusty:''' ''[giving instructions to Linus]'' Don't use three words when one will do; don't shift your eyes. Look always at your mark, but don't stare. Be specific but not memorable; be funny but don't make him laugh. He's gotta like you, and then forget you the moment you've left his sight. And for God's sake, whatever you do, don't, under ''any'' circumstances --\\



%%* AMacGuffinFullOfMoney

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%%* AMacGuffinFullOfMoney* AMacGuffinFullOfMoney: As a caper film, it uses this, though it differs from most thief caper films in that it was very specific money.



'''Rusty:''' [[CrowningMomentOfFunny No, it's good, I liked it. Teen-beat thing was harsh]].

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'''Rusty:''' [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments No, it's good, I liked it. Teen-beat Teen Beat thing was harsh]].



* NiceToTheWaiter: Benedict. Rusty notes that he knows the names of most all of his employees, and we hear him asking about their personal lives as he enters the casino. This is part of Benedict's need to be knowledgeable about everything and everyone associated with his casinos so he can stay CrazyPrepared by being ProperlyParanoid.

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* NiceToTheWaiter: NiceToTheWaiter:
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Benedict. Rusty notes that he knows the names of most all of his employees, and we hear him asking about their personal lives as he enters the casino. This is part of Benedict's need to be knowledgeable about everything and everyone associated with his casinos so he can stay CrazyPrepared by being ProperlyParanoid.



-->'''Rusty:''' Off the top of my head, I'd say you're looking at a Boesky, a Jim Brown, a Miss Daisy, two Jethros and a Leon Spinks, not to mention the biggest Ella Fitzgerald ever.

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-->'''Rusty:''' --->'''Rusty:''' Off the top of my head, I'd say you're looking at a Boesky, a Jim Brown, a Miss Daisy, two Jethros and a Leon Spinks, not to mention the biggest Ella Fitzgerald ever.



-->'''Basher:''' Hell in a Handbasket?\\

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-->'''Basher:''' --->'''Basher:''' Hell in a Handbasket?\\



* NoodleIncident: When Danny and Rusty are leaving lunch with Reuben, after he initially turned them down.
-->'''Reuben''': Look, we all go way back and uh, I owe you from the thing with the guy in the place and I'll never forget it.\\
'''Danny''': That was our pleasure.\\
'''Rusty''': I'd never been to Belize.

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* NoodleIncident: NoodleIncident:
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When Danny and Rusty are leaving lunch with Reuben, after he initially turned them down.
-->'''Reuben''': --->'''Reuben:''' Look, we all go way back and uh, I owe you from the thing with the guy in the place and I'll never forget it.\\
'''Danny''': '''Danny:''' That was our pleasure.\\
'''Rusty''': '''Rusty:''' I'd never been to Belize.



%%* TheNondescript

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%%* TheNondescript* TheNondescript: Discussed by Rusty while giving instructions to Linus about how not to be conspicious:
--> '''Rusty:''' Don't use three words when one will do; don't shift your eyes. Look always at your mark, but don't stare. Be specific but not memorable; be funny but don't make him laugh. He's gotta like you, and then forget you the moment you've left his sight. And for God's sake, whatever you do, don't, under ''any'' circumstances--



%%* ObstacleExposition

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%%* ObstacleExposition* ObstacleExposition: Given by Saul during his rant:
-->'''Saul:''' I have a question. Let's say we get into the cages we don't have access to. And down the elevator we can't move. And past the guards with the guns. And into the vault we can't open--\\
'''Rusty:''' All without being seen by the cameras.\\
'''Danny:''' Right, I forgot to mention that.\\
'''Saul:''' ''[{{beat}}]'' Well, say we do all that. Are we supposed to just walk out of there with a hundred and fifty million dollars in cash on us--without being stopped?\\
''[everyone slowly turns to Danny]''\\
'''Danny:''' ...yeah.\\
'''Saul:''' Oh. Well, all right then. ''[[[ThisIsGonnaSuck quietly pops an antacid]]]''



* PlotHole: [[spoiler: In ''Ocean's Eleven'', The bags of hooker fliers appear in the vault elevator without anyone carrying them in.]] WordOfGod admits this was a script error that got overlooked.

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* PlotHole: [[spoiler: In ''Ocean's Eleven'', The the bags of hooker fliers appear in the vault elevator without anyone carrying them in.]] WordOfGod admits this was a script error that got overlooked.



-->'''Terry:''' You think this is funny?\\

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-->'''Terry:''' --->'''Terry:''' You think this is funny?\\



%%* ProductionPosse
%%* PseudoCrisis
* PutOnABus: Tess and Isabel simply aren't included in the third film, though at least Danny gives a HandWave to the fact that he kept them out of it on purpose
* RefugeInAudacity: Danny embodies this trope. One of his first scenes is him checking in with his probation officer from an out of state pay phone!
** In fact, practically all their heists rely on this in some form or another:
*** In ''Eleven'', the gang actually [[spoiler: ''ransoms'' Benedict's own money against him, and then manage to smuggle the money out of the vault by ''posing as a SWAT team''. They even use an EMP bomb to black out all of Las Vegas for several seconds]].
*** In ''Twelve'', [[spoiler: Linus' mother arrives posing as an FBI agent and ''pulls rank'' Isabel, setting the entire gang free right in front of her due to Isabel illegally obtaining forged arrest warrants.]]
*** In ''Thirteen'', [[spoiler:the gang ''creates an artificial earthquake under Bank's casino'' to get all of the gamblers to evacuate. Linus' father also poses as an FBI agent to manipulate Bank and Sponder.]]

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%%* ProductionPosse
%%* PseudoCrisis
* PseudoCrisis: In ''Eleven'', one of the 11 is tasked with sneaking into the vault, jumping to avoid the sensors in the floor, then placing explosives on the door to let the other robbers in. During the last bit, he gets his hand stuck, leaving him without cover, right as the guys are on the other side of the door about to blow it. After playing it for all the suspense they can...the detonator's batteries are dead. Then, once that's been resolved, they blow the door open...and find their inside man safe inside, wondering what took them so long.
* PutOnABus: Tess and Isabel simply aren't included in the third film, though at least Danny gives a HandWave to the fact that he kept them out of it on purpose
purpose.
* RefugeInAudacity: Danny embodies Practically all their heists rely on this trope. One in some form or another:
** In ''Eleven'', one
of his Danny's first scenes is him checking in with his probation officer from an out of state pay phone!
** In fact, practically all their heists rely on this in some form or another:
*** In ''Eleven'', the
phone. The gang actually [[spoiler: ''ransoms'' Benedict's own money against him, and then manage to smuggle the money out of the vault by ''posing as a SWAT team''. They even use an EMP bomb to black out all of Las Vegas for several seconds]].
*** ** In ''Twelve'', [[spoiler: Linus' mother arrives posing as an FBI agent and ''pulls rank'' Isabel, setting the entire gang free right in front of her due to Isabel illegally obtaining forged arrest warrants.]]
*** ** In ''Thirteen'', [[spoiler:the gang ''creates an artificial earthquake under Bank's casino'' to get all of the gamblers to evacuate. Linus' father also poses as an FBI agent to manipulate Bank and Sponder.]]



* ShoutOut: In the elevator, Linus hits the floor buttons [[Film/THX1138 1, 1, 3, and 8]]

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
**
In the elevator, Linus hits the floor buttons [[Film/THX1138 1, 1, 3, and 8]]



-->'''Basher:''' So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in barney. (''the others look blankly at him'') [[WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones Barney Rubble]] - trouble!

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-->'''Basher:''' --->'''Basher:''' So unless we intend to do this job in Reno, we're in barney. (''the others look blankly at him'') [[WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones Barney Rubble]] - trouble!



'''Rusty:''' ''[{{Beat}}] [pulls face, leaves]''

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'''Rusty:''' ''[{{Beat}}] ''[{{beat}}] [pulls face, leaves]''



* SoundEffectBleep: Used extensively in a scene from 12, when Tarr is seen in the recording studio; both on his rap song and in his conversation with the recording engineer about the song sounding lifeless with extensive censorship for radio play.

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* TheSnackIsMoreInteresting: A running gag is that Rusty is almost always snacking on something, showing his nonchalance.
* SoundEffectBleep: Used extensively in a scene from 12, ''Twelve'', when Tarr is seen in the recording studio; both on his rap song and in his conversation with the recording engineer about the song sounding lifeless with extensive censorship for radio play.



* TakeThat: Terry's sarcastic advice to not pay cash for an expensive Newport Beach sports car is undoubtedly a dig at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wynn_(entrepreneur) Kevyn Wynn's kidnappers]].
* TakeThatMe: Topher Grace's cameo in 12.

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* TakeThat: Terry's sarcastic advice to not pay cash for an expensive Newport Beach sports car is undoubtedly a dig at [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wynn_(entrepreneur) org/wiki/Steve_Wynn Kevyn Wynn's kidnappers]].
kidnappers,]] who were apprehended when one attempted to buy a Ferrari in Newport Beach, California, with cash.
* TakeThatMe: Topher Grace's cameo in 12.''Twelve''.



* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Tess in the first movie. She and Isabel are both NeverASelfMadeWoman; Tess is the whole reason the heist is taking place in the first movie; Isabel is both Rusty's love interest and [[spoiler: Gaspar's daughter..]]
* ThirtySecondBlackout: With the excuse that AppliedPhlebotinum did it... and with predictable consequences inside the casino.

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* TheSmurfettePrinciple: Tess in the first movie. She and Isabel are both NeverASelfMadeWoman; Tess is the whole reason the heist is taking place in the first movie; Isabel is both Rusty's love interest and [[spoiler: Gaspar's daughter..]]
* ThirtySecondBlackout: With the excuse that AppliedPhlebotinum did it... and with predictable consequences inside the casino.
daughter.]]



* TitleDrop Happens one film too late:
--> '''Benedict:''' Apparently, I'm not the only one looking for ''Ocean's Eleven''.

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* TitleDrop ThoseWackyNazis: When Reuben (who's Jewish) is describing why it's impossible to rob a casino.
--> '''Reuben:''' They've got enough armed personnel to occupy Paris! ...okay, bad example.
* TitleDrop:
**
Happens one film too late:
--> ---> '''Benedict:''' Apparently, I'm not the only one looking for ''Ocean's Eleven''.



* VillainDecay: Terry Benedict is a very intimidating BigBad in the first movie, but by the third has become an eyeroll-worthy irritant that the gang is forced to put up with and don't take too seriously.
** [[spoiler:The gang knew Benedict would betray them over the diamonds, and had planned accordingly.]]

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* VillainDecay: VillainDecay:
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Terry Benedict is a very intimidating BigBad in the first movie, but by the third has become an eyeroll-worthy irritant that the gang is forced to put up with and don't take too seriously.
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seriously. [[spoiler:The gang knew Benedict would betray them over the diamonds, and had planned accordingly.]]



* VitriolicBestBuds: Danny and Rusty. Danny's whimsical "let the chips fall" style contrasts Rusty's cautious and detailed style, as a result they occasionally have inevitable personality conflicts. They never stop having each other's backs though.

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* VitriolicBestBuds: VitriolicBestBuds:
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Danny and Rusty. Danny's whimsical "let the chips fall" style contrasts Rusty's cautious and detailed style, as a result they occasionally have inevitable personality conflicts. They never stop having each other's backs though.



--> '''Rusty''': I hope you were the groom.\\
'''Danny''': Ted Nugent called. He wants his shirt back.

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--> '''Rusty''': '''Rusty:''' I hope you were the groom.\\
'''Danny''': '''Danny:''' Ted Nugent called. He wants his shirt back.
18th Jul '16 11:54:55 AM spoonofevil
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** In ''Thirteen'', [[spoiler:the gang ''creates an artificial earthquake under Bank's casino'' to get all of the gamblers to evacuate. Linus' father also poses as an FBI agent to manipulate Bank and Sponder.]]

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** *** In ''Thirteen'', [[spoiler:the gang ''creates an artificial earthquake under Bank's casino'' to get all of the gamblers to evacuate. Linus' father also poses as an FBI agent to manipulate Bank and Sponder.]]
18th Jul '16 11:54:36 AM spoonofevil
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* BadAssFamily: The Caldwells -- Linus' mom and dad are legendary thieves themselves [[spoiler:and save the day in ''Twelve'' and ''Thirteen'', respectively.]]

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* BadAssFamily: The Caldwells -- Linus' mom and dad are legendary thieves themselves [[spoiler:and save the day in ''Twelve'' and ''Thirteen'', respectively.respectively by ''[[RefugeInAudacity posing as FBI agents on both occasions]]''.]]


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** In fact, practically all their heists rely on this in some form or another:
*** In ''Eleven'', the gang actually [[spoiler: ''ransoms'' Benedict's own money against him, and then manage to smuggle the money out of the vault by ''posing as a SWAT team''. They even use an EMP bomb to black out all of Las Vegas for several seconds]].
*** In ''Twelve'', [[spoiler: Linus' mother arrives posing as an FBI agent and ''pulls rank'' Isabel, setting the entire gang free right in front of her due to Isabel illegally obtaining forged arrest warrants.]]
** In ''Thirteen'', [[spoiler:the gang ''creates an artificial earthquake under Bank's casino'' to get all of the gamblers to evacuate. Linus' father also poses as an FBI agent to manipulate Bank and Sponder.]]
12th May '16 10:33:10 AM dmcreif
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* CelebrityParadox / YourCostumeNeedsWork: Tess, played by Julia Roberts, impersonates Julia Roberts--badly--to pull off the heist in ''Twelve''.

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* CelebrityParadox / YourCostumeNeedsWork: Tess, YourCostumeNeedsWork:
**Tess,
played by Julia Roberts, impersonates Julia Roberts--badly--to pull off the heist in ''Twelve''.''Twelve''. And complains that it's "too personal" to impersonate someone else who's out there somewhere. And then she has to interact with several other celebrities like Bruce Willis who know Julia Roberts. The fact that Danny Ocean, played by Creator/GeorgeClooney, couldn't do the same implies that this is a case of OneShotRevisionism.
**In ''Eleven'', in one of the earliest scenes, Danny and Rusty walk out of the club where they've been teaching celebrities to play poker. It's very surreal to see Topher Grace and Joshua Jackson get mobbed by squealing fans, while Creator/GeorgeClooney and Creator/BradPitt stroll by unnoticed.
12th May '16 10:30:52 AM dmcreif
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* HollywoodLaw: Especially in the first film, there is a fictitious Nevada Gaming Commission law[[note]]That is, the law is fictitious, not the Commission[[/note]] stipulating that casinos in the state are required to hold a minimum amount of cash on the premises, in the event that a high-roller strikes the grand jackpot. Not surprisingly, the title characters [[TheCaper hatch a plan]] to exploit this.

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* HollywoodLaw: Especially in the first film, there is a fictitious Nevada Gaming Commission law[[note]]That is, the law is fictitious, not the Commission[[/note]] stipulating that casinos in the state are required to hold a minimum amount of cash on the premises, in the event that a high-roller strikes the grand jackpot. Not surprisingly, the title characters [[TheCaper hatch a plan]] to exploit this. No such law is in place, because casinos would never dole out that much physical cash at once. They would start making payment negotiations for checks or electronic transfers after taxes are deducted, if for no other reason than the fact that the hypothetical high-roller would need a forklift truck to get the money out the door: $160 million in C-notes would weigh about 1.5 tons.
3rd May '16 3:25:55 PM Bissek
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* HollywoodDensity: At no point in the movie does anyone bring up or address the fact that $160 million would weigh roughly a ton and a half if it's all in C-notes, and more if it includes a mixture of smaller bills. This is far more than eleven men could possibly carry in one trip unless they're all bodybuilders.
24th Apr '16 11:59:59 PM Mdumas43073
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10th Mar '16 10:54:02 PM gallium
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** From the original ''Ocean's Eleven'', we have Angie Dickinson and Henry Silva, appearing as themselves.



%%* MegaNekko: Sponder


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* RemakeCameo: From the original ''Ocean's Eleven'', we have Angie Dickinson and Henry Silva, appearing as themselves.
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