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* KickTheSonOfABitch: They really had it coming.
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* UnratedEdition: The film was released to DVD in the United States this way, being released in both an R-rated version that featured several scenes deleted from the French version, whilst the original cut was released unrated.
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''Martyrs'' is a 2008 French-Canadian horror film written and directed by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjane Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its pervasive graphic violence and bleak themes, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement.
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''Martyrs'' is a 2008 French-Canadian horror film written and directed by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjane Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its pervasive graphic violence and bleak themes, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement.
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* TwentyMinutesIntoThePast: Released in 2008, set in an unspecified time in the 1990s. The biggest giveaway to the period is that nobody has a mobile phone, but this has no bearing on the plot.
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Sympathetic murderers don't kill innocent children.
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* SympatheticMurderer: Lucie murders her torturers and their children. However, given what they did to her, and the obvious mental illness it caused her, she doesn't really lose sympathy.
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''Martyrs'' is a 2008 French-Canadian horror film written and directed by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjana Morjane Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its pervasive graphic violence and bleak themes, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement.
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* InfoDrop: The torturers describe their victims as martyrs on several occasions. Before the credits roll, a bit of on-screen text tells us that "martyr" comes from the Ancient Greek word for "witness." [[spoiler:The torturers want to know what their victims see when they are on the boundary between life and death]]. Not essential to understanding the plot, but still nice to know.
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* ParentalAbandonment: Anna and Lucie became friends in an orphanage.
** A brief telephone conversation in the present establishes that Anna is estranged from her mother, but we never learn why she was put into the orphanage.
** Lucie escaped from being kidnapped as a child. We never learn why she was put into the orphanage, instead of being reclaimed by her parents.
** A brief telephone conversation in the present establishes that Anna is estranged from her mother, but we never learn why she was put into the orphanage.
** Lucie escaped from being kidnapped as a child. We never learn why she was put into the orphanage, instead of being reclaimed by her parents.
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* EvilIsNotWellLit: The torture dungeon is consistently dimly lit, when it might make more sense for it to be brightly lit when the torturers are working, and for the lights to be turned off when the prisoner is alone.
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* ContrivedCoincidence: The entire present-day portion of the film happens because a regional newspaper prints a story about a junior swimming competition, and Lucie sees the story and recognises the parents in the photo.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Anna phones her estranged mother after Lucie has been revealed to be AxeCrazy. Mother is generally rude and hostile. However, she's not wrong when she says that "that girl" is a bad influence, and that Anna should dump her.
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* AxCrazy: Lucie.
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* AxCrazy: Lucie.Lucie kills an entire family because she saw their photo (in a newspaper report about a swimming competition), and thought that the parents looked like the people who kidnapped and tortured her fifteen years ago.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:The 2016 remake changes the ending so that Anna is able to escape her captors and rescue Lucie, killing many of the cult members in the process, including their leader Eleanor. However, both she and Lucie succumb to their wounds just as the police arrive on the scene. At the very least, Anna was able to spare Sam from the violence, and the existence of the cult is exposed to the authorities.]]
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* TheRemake: A US version was made in 2016. It is generally considered quite inferior. Major differences occurred midway on: [[spoiler:Lucie is captured rather than killing herself, Anna escapes to rescue her and alerts the police (so the torturers won't go unpunished-she also kills several). However still Lucie dies near the end, with both her and Anna viewing whatever the afterlife is]].
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* TheRemake: A US version was made in 2016. It is generally considered quite inferior. Major differences occurred midway on: [[spoiler:Lucie is captured rather than killing herself, Anna escapes to rescue her and alerts the police (so the torturers won't go unpunished-she unpunished -- she also kills several). However still Lucie dies near the end, with both her and Anna viewing whatever the afterlife is]].
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''Martyrs'' is a 2008 French-Canadian horror film written and directed by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjana Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its pervasive graphic violence and heavy bleak themes, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement.
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* SpoilerCover: See AmericanKirbyIsHardcore above, that poster shows [[spoiler:the emaciated torture victim whom Anna later rescues from the underground dungeon]] as the FaceOnTheCover.
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* SpoilerCover: See AmericanKirbyIsHardcore above, above; that poster shows [[spoiler:the emaciated torture victim whom Anna later rescues from the underground dungeon]] as the FaceOnTheCover.
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* ForceFeeding: [[spoiler:Anna]] is tied to a chair and force-fed some protein goo on the first days - or maybe weeks - of her captivity. After some time of torture, abuse and isolation, she's too weak and broken to resist being fed.
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''Martyrs'' is a 2008 French-Canadian horror movie film written and directed by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjana Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its pervasive graphic violence, violence and heavy themes, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement.
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''Martyrs'' is a French-Canadian horror movie by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjana Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its controversial and pervasive graphic violence, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it has been it's one of the most well-known films associated with the New French Extremity movement of films.
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* OneWordTitle: ''Martyrs''
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* TheSociopath: [[spoiler:The Mademoiselle acts like an affable philosopher, but thinks nothing of torturing people to death in an obsessive quest to find the secrets of the afterlife.]]
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The film was remade in 2016 by a US company. While the remake is LighterAndSofter than the original film, it's not any easier a watch for the faint of heart.
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The film was remade received an American remake in 2016 by a US company.from Blumhouse Productions. While the remake is LighterAndSofter than the original film, it's not any easier a watch for the faint of heart.
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The film was remade in 2016 by a US company. Most of it was recreated shot for shot, but some differences exist. This version was panned by critics and audiences alike.
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The film was remade in 2016 by a US company. Most of it was recreated shot While the remake is LighterAndSofter than the original film, it's not any easier a watch for shot, but some differences exist. This version was panned by critics and audiences alike.the faint of heart.
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* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].
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* AffablyEvil: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].[[spoiler:The Mademoiselle.]]
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* AteHisGun: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle at the end, after Anna tells her the secrets of the afterlife. What aspects of Anna's confession drove her to suicide are left unknown]].
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* AteHisGun: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The Mademoiselle at the end, after Anna tells her the secrets of the afterlife. What aspects of Anna's confession drove her to suicide are left unknown]].unknown.]]
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* BadassLongcoat: [[spoiler: The mooks who arrive at the house halfway through the movie wear these]].
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* BadassLongcoat: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The mooks who arrive at the house halfway through the movie wear these]].these.]]
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* BigBad: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].
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* BigBad: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].[[spoiler:The Mademoiselle.]]
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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Lucie cuts her own throat after taking her revenge, and the Mademoiselle shoots herself at the very end after learning about [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow the afterlife]]]].
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* DrivenToSuicide: [[spoiler: Lucie [[spoiler:Lucie cuts her own throat after taking her revenge, and the Mademoiselle shoots herself at the very end after learning about [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow the afterlife]]]].afterlife]].]]
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* EvilOldFolks: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2015 with some changes from the original.
* [[ForScience For Philosophy]]: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife.]]
* FullFrontalAssault: [[spoiler: Lucie's tormentor is completely nude and covered in scars.]]
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2015 with some changes from the original.
* [[ForScience For Philosophy]]: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife.]]
* FullFrontalAssault: [[spoiler: Lucie's tormentor is completely nude and covered in scars.]]
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* EvilOldFolks: [[spoiler: The Mademoiselle]].
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2015 with some changes from the original.
* [[ForScience For Philosophy]]: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife.[[spoiler:The Mademoiselle.]]
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2016 with some changes from the original.
* ForScience: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife]].
* FullFrontalAssault:[[spoiler: Lucie's [[spoiler:Lucie's tormentor is completely nude and covered in scars.]]
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2015 with some changes from the original.
* [[ForScience For Philosophy]]: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife.
* ForeignRemake: An American remake was released in 2016 with some changes from the original.
* ForScience: The torturers do not do it for the sake of sadistic pleasure, and it is repeatedly emphasized that no overt sexual abuse happens to the victims. Rather, it is for the sake of [[spoiler:Mademoiselle trying to observe and study the afterlife]].
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* {{Gorn}}: Plenty, most notably [[spoiler:Anna being skinned alive.]]
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Most of the torturers get away completely scot free. The only ''remote'' upside is that the family that tortured Lucie and the Mademoiselle are both dead.]] Arguably ''subverted,'' however. [[spoiler:Whatever the Mademoiselle heard, it caused her to ''immediately'' shoot herself in the head. From a certain point of view, this can be taken as a sign that it was AllForNothing, and that their whole AncientConspiracy -- despite nominally working -- was an utter failure.]]
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: Most of the torturers get away completely scot free. The only ''remote'' upside is that the family that tortured Lucie and the Mademoiselle are both dead.]] Arguably ''subverted,'' however. [[spoiler:Whatever the Mademoiselle heard, it caused her to ''immediately'' shoot herself in the head. From a certain point of view, this can be taken as a sign that it was AllForNothing, and that their whole AncientConspiracy -- despite nominally working -- was an utter failure.]]
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* {{Gorn}}: Plenty, most notably [[spoiler:Anna being skinned alive.]]
alive]].
* KarmaHoudini:[[spoiler: Most [[spoiler:Most of the torturers get away completely scot free. The only ''remote'' upside is that the family that tortured Lucie and the Mademoiselle are both dead.]] Arguably ''subverted,'' however.There's a case to be made that this was subverted, however -- or subverted twice, depending on your perspective. [[spoiler:Whatever the Mademoiselle heard, it caused her to ''immediately'' shoot herself in the head. From a certain point of view, this can be taken as a sign that it was AllForNothing, and that their whole AncientConspiracy -- despite nominally working -- was an utter failure.]]
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* LighterAndSofter: The ForeignRemake is this with much of the graphic violence toned down. It also has a 'happier' ending with [[spoiler:the torturers being killed.]]
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* TheRemake: A US version was made in 2016. It is generally considered quite inferior. Major differences occurred midway on: [[spoiler:Lucie is captured rather than killing herself, Anna escapes to rescue her and alerts the police (so the torturers won't go unpunished-she also kills several). However still Lucie dies near the end, with both her and Anna viewing whatever the afterlife is.]]
* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Deconstructed. Lucie goes on one against those she thinks tortured her, but [[spoiler:even after she kills them all, the manifested SurvivorGuilt she has from her imprisonment continues to haunt her and eventually drives her to suicide.]]
* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Deconstructed. Lucie goes on one against those she thinks tortured her, but [[spoiler:even after she kills them all, the manifested SurvivorGuilt she has from her imprisonment continues to haunt her and eventually drives her to suicide.]]
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is]].
* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: Deconstructed. Lucie goes on one against those she thinks tortured her, but [[spoiler:even after she kills them all, the manifested SurvivorGuilt she has from her imprisonment continues to haunt her and eventually drives her tosuicide.]]suicide]].
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* TheUnreveal: Near the end, [[spoiler:Anna whispers something to Mademoiselle, and the audience doesn't hear it. The rest of the conspiracy doesn't hear it either, because the Mademoiselle blows her brains out shortly afterwards.]]
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* TheUnreveal: Near the end, [[spoiler:Anna whispers something to Mademoiselle, and the audience doesn't hear it. The rest of the conspiracy doesn't hear it either, because the Mademoiselle blows her brains out shortly afterwards.]]afterwards]].
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''Martyrs'' is a French-Canadian horror movie by Pascal Laugier, starring Morjana Alaoui and Mylène Jampanoï. Due to its controversial amount of and pervasive graphic violence, it's a heavily polarizing film often deemed one of the most disturbing of all time, and it has been associated with the New French Extremity movement of films.
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* {{Remake}}: A US version was made in 2016. It is generally considered quite inferior. Major differences occurred midway on: [[spoiler:Lucie is captured rather than killing herself, Anna escapes to rescue her and alerts the police (so the torturers won't go unpunished-she also kills several). However still Lucie dies near the end, with both her and Anna viewing whatever the afterlife is.]]
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* {{Remake}}: TheRemake: A US version was made in 2016. It is generally considered quite inferior. Major differences occurred midway on: [[spoiler:Lucie is captured rather than killing herself, Anna escapes to rescue her and alerts the police (so the torturers won't go unpunished-she also kills several). However still Lucie dies near the end, with both her and Anna viewing whatever the afterlife is.]]
