History Film / LordOfWar

28th Nov '16 11:25:14 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ShownTheirWork: Despite the AK-47's famous reliability, Yuri is correct when explaining the jam listed under ReliablyUnreliableGuns. "Riding" the bolt on an AK rifle (keeping your hand on it after chambering instead of letting it slam home) can cause the cartridge to fall out and lodge itself in the receiver.

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* ShownTheirWork: Despite the AK-47's famous reliability, Yuri is correct when explaining the jam that they can indeed be easily jammed, as listed under ReliablyUnreliableGuns. "Riding" the bolt on an AK rifle (keeping your hand on it after chambering instead of releasing and letting it slam home) can cause the cartridge to fall out and lodge itself in the receiver.
28th Nov '16 1:46:12 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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* ShownTheirWork: Despite the AK-47's famous reliability, Yuri is correct when explaining the jam listed under ReliablyUnreliableGuns. "Riding" the bolt on an AK rifle (keeping your hand on it after chambering instead of letting it slam home) can cause the cartridge to fall out and lodge itself in the receiver.
16th Oct '16 8:21:00 AM maxwellsilver
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** Subverted in another scene: Yuri says he refused to sell weapons to OsamaBinLaden. Not because of ethical reasons, but [[PragmaticVillainy because back then Bin Laden's checks kept bouncing]].

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** Subverted in another scene: Yuri says he refused to sell weapons to OsamaBinLaden. Not because of ethical reasons, but [[PragmaticVillainy because back then Bin Laden's checks kept bouncing]].bouncing.



* FirstPersonSmartAss: Arguably a large part of the appeal of the movie is hearing Nicolas Cage's [[DeadpanSnarker deadpan, snarky voiceover]] commenting on the often very serious scenes.

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* FirstPersonSmartAss: Arguably a large part of the appeal of the movie is hearing Nicolas Cage's [[DeadpanSnarker deadpan, snarky voiceover]] voiceover commenting on the often very serious scenes.



* InheritedIlliteracyTitle: A variant. Baptiste is fond of turning English compound nouns into phrases - 'bloodbath' becomes 'bath of blood'; 'warlord' becomes [[TitleDrop 'Lord of War']].

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* InheritedIlliteracyTitle: A variant. Baptiste is fond of turning English compound nouns into phrases - 'bloodbath' becomes 'bath of blood'; 'warlord' becomes [[TitleDrop 'Lord of War']].War'.



* {{Irony}}: Yuri ruminates on how [[spoiler:he sold millions of rounds of ammunition, but in the end a single bullet got him arrested (said bullet was in Vitaly's body after the latter [[BlatantLies died of a heart attack]] on their trip to Africa)]].

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* {{Irony}}: Yuri ruminates on how [[spoiler:he sold millions of rounds of ammunition, but in the end a single bullet got him arrested (said bullet was in Vitaly's body after the latter [[BlatantLies died of a heart attack]] "heart attack" on their trip to Africa)]].



** Andre Baptiste (senior) is partially based on Charles Taylor, former leader of UsefulNotes/{{Liberia}}.

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** Andre Baptiste (senior) Baptiste, Sr., is partially based on Charles Taylor, former leader of UsefulNotes/{{Liberia}}.
16th Oct '16 8:07:16 AM maxwellsilver
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** At the end, [[spoiler:Yuri reveals he was working as a middleman for the US government, supplying factions they can't be seen supporting. We never learn how or why he this happened.]]

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** At the end, [[spoiler:Yuri reveals he was working as a middleman for the US government, supplying factions they can't be seen supporting. We never learn how or why he this happened.]]
16th Oct '16 8:05:17 AM maxwellsilver
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* NoodleIncident: In addition to having French, British, Israeli, and Ukrainian passports, Yuri also had a student visa for the US, "but that's another story."

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* NoodleIncident: NoodleIncident:
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In addition to having French, British, Israeli, and Ukrainian passports, Yuri also had a student visa for the US, "but that's another story.""
** At the end, [[spoiler:Yuri reveals he was working as a middleman for the US government, supplying factions they can't be seen supporting. We never learn how or why he this happened.]]



* PlausibleDeniability: It's revealed in the end [[spoiler:that Yuri acts as a middleman for the US Government, selling arms to goverments and groups that the US doesn't want to be publicly associated with. Even though this effectively gives him a GetOutOfJailFreeCard, Yuri bleakly wonders when his benefactors will decide that [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's no longer useful to them.]]]]

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* PlausibleDeniability: It's revealed in the end [[spoiler:that Yuri acts as a middleman for the US Government, selling arms to goverments governments and groups that the US doesn't want to be publicly associated with. Even though this effectively gives him a GetOutOfJailFreeCard, Yuri bleakly wonders when his benefactors will decide that [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness he's no longer useful to them.]]]]
10th Oct '16 5:40:50 PM maxwellsilver
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Despite Yuri's claim, the USSR never put the AK-47 on their currency.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: ArtisticLicenseHistory:
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Despite Yuri's claim, the USSR never put the AK-47 on their currency.currency.
** Yuri, after finding he had unprotected sex in Liberia, claims "In the most AIDS infested region of the globe, where one in four is infected ..." This is wrong both for West Africa and Liberia in particular, where HIV prevalence has never reached 2% since its identification. In 1995 -- when this scene takes place -- only 23 people were HIV-positive in the entire country. Yuri's claim of "one in four" is only true in a few Southern African countries.



** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the similar-looking-yet-very-different AK-74, in 5.45x39mm. Further, Soviet troops in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58 Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]] in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, are actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], while Yuri holds an actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]] when touting its prowess.

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** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the similar-looking-yet-very-different AK-74, AK-74 in 5.45x39mm.45x39mm (although full issuance took until the Afghan invasion). Further, Soviet troops in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58 Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]] in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, are actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], while Yuri holds an actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]] when touting its prowess.



* BlackAndGrayMorality: Yuri himself is amoral and indifferent to the death he causes with his trade, but he is nowhere near as bad as Baptiste, who is an insane dictator who murders people on a whim, forces children to fight for him, allows his cannibalistic son free reign and engages in bloody civil wars. The staunchly [[HeroAntagonist heroic]] Jack Valentine is pretty unambiguously good, so the movie doesn't necessarily imply that there is no white morality. It just suggests that the good guys [[CrapsackWorld aren't]] [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism very]] [[GoodIsImpotent effective]]. [[GoodIsNotNice Or affable,]] [[AffablyEvil comparatively.]]

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* BlackAndGrayMorality: Yuri himself is amoral and indifferent to the death he causes with his trade, but he is nowhere near as bad as Baptiste, who is an insane dictator who murders people on a whim, forces children to fight for him, allows his cannibalistic son free reign and engages in bloody civil wars. The staunchly [[HeroAntagonist heroic]] heroic Jack Valentine is pretty unambiguously good, so the movie doesn't necessarily imply that there is no white morality. It just suggests that the good guys [[CrapsackWorld aren't]] [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism very]] [[GoodIsImpotent effective]]. [[GoodIsNotNice aren't very effective. Or affable,]] [[AffablyEvil affable, comparatively.]]



* BornLucky: Yuri. He narrowly avoids a whole lot of trouble from badly concealed weaponry entirely by chance - had Valentine chosen to watch the potatoes for five more seconds, he'd have noticed the crate marked "M16"... but the epitome of Yuri's luck almost defies belief. There are very few ways a white, rich man can walk in a war-torn African city [[MushroomSamba on a high]] and survive despite having unprotected sex with a prostitute, an encounter with a pack of hyenas and two gangsters who would have shot him if their [=AKs=] [[SerialEscalation had not jammed]] (which he [[RefugeInAudacity proceeds to give them his professional advice on how to fix so they won't do that]].) The whole sequence serves to show how Yuri has sunk so low that he can't even die. At this point Yuri himself thinks he's [[BlessedWithSuck cursed rather than blessed]].

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* BornLucky: Yuri. He narrowly avoids a whole lot of trouble from badly concealed weaponry entirely by chance - had Valentine chosen to watch the potatoes for five more seconds, he'd have noticed the crate marked "M16"... but the epitome of Yuri's luck almost defies belief. There are very few ways a white, rich man can walk in a war-torn African city [[MushroomSamba on a high]] high and survive despite having unprotected sex with a prostitute, an encounter with a pack of hyenas and two gangsters who would have shot him if their [=AKs=] [[SerialEscalation had not jammed]] jammed (which he [[RefugeInAudacity proceeds to give them his professional advice on how to fix so they won't do that]].that.) The whole sequence serves to show how Yuri has sunk so low that he can't even die. At this point Yuri himself thinks he's [[BlessedWithSuck cursed rather than blessed]].blessed.
10th Oct '16 5:29:52 PM maxwellsilver
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** In a meta sense too. A real Czech dealer was actually used for props for the film - it turned out to be cheaper to borrow 3000 real [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]], visually similar but totally different to the [=AK=], than to buy 3000 replicas! The row of tanks were not only real, but were rented from an actual arms dealer (the staff worked closely with several while filming). The scene had to be rushed because the dealer had a buyer and unexpectedly needed them back. Also, the filmmakers had to inform NATO that the satellite images they're getting of tanks gathering is not of a preparation for invasion.

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** In a meta sense too. A real Czech dealer was actually used for props for the film - it turned out to be cheaper to borrow 3000 real [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle 58 Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]], visually similar but totally different to the [=AK=], than to buy 3000 replicas! The row of tanks were not only real, but were rented from an actual arms dealer (the staff worked closely with several while filming). The scene had to be rushed because the dealer had a buyer and unexpectedly needed them back. Also, the filmmakers had to inform NATO that the satellite images they're getting of tanks gathering is not of a preparation for invasion.



** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the similar-looking-yet-very-different AK-74, in 5.45x39mm. Further, Soviet troops in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]] in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, are actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], while Yuri holds an actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]] when touting its prowess.

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** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the similar-looking-yet-very-different AK-74, in 5.45x39mm. Further, Soviet troops in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle 58 Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]] in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, are actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], while Yuri holds an actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]] when touting its prowess.
10th Oct '16 5:28:10 PM maxwellsilver
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** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute similar-looking-yet-very-different]] AK-74, in 5.45x39mm. Further, Soviet troops (including [[RealLifeRelative Nicholas Cage's son Weston]]) in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, especially after the withdrawal of 7.62x39mm weapons from service, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]], in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, [[DidDoTheResearch are, in fact]] [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], as well as the occasional real, very rare [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]].

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** The Soviet Union phased out the AKM [[note]] The AK-47 was removed from service and replaced by the similar-but-improved AKM early in TheFifties[[/note]] in 1974, replacing it with the [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute similar-looking-yet-very-different]] similar-looking-yet-very-different AK-74, in 5.45x39mm. Further, Soviet troops (including [[RealLifeRelative Nicholas Cage's son Weston]]) in 1991 are shown using [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#Norinco_Type_56-1 Norinco Type 56-1]], Chinese copies of the AKMS, despite Soviet troops never using Chinese equipment, especially after the withdrawal of 7.62x39mm weapons from service, and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#SA_Vz.58_Assault_Rifle Czech SA Vz. 58 rifles]], rifles]] in the background of the Ukrainian armoury. The majority of rifles given to guerilla troops, however, [[DidDoTheResearch are, in fact]] are actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKM Soviet AKM rifles]] and [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AKMS East German AKMS rifles]], as well as the occasional real, very rare while Yuri holds an actual [[http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Lord_of_War#AK-47 AK-47]].AK-47]] when touting its prowess.
1st Oct '16 1:05:49 PM Fireblood
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** As stated above, Yuri and his exploits are based on real people, along with the horrible facts of the international arms trade. Yuri notes the five main arms dealers in the world are governments holding permanent UN Security Council seats, with a veto over any General Assembly resolutions to stop the trafficking. They are: the US, UK, France, Russia and Germany (China in the movie, though it's actually the 11th greatest arms dealer in the world. Probably changed to encompass all of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Still, four out of five...the point is made. Note, as of 2015, the top six arms dealer in the world is US, Russia, China, Germany, France, UK, in that order. So the movie just predicting ahead.).
** The film makers found it cheaper to have gun dealers provide ''real weapons and tanks'' for the film props. The tanks you see in the movie had to be back to their gun dealer for his deal with a foreign country.

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** As stated above, Yuri and his exploits are based on real people, along with the horrible facts of the international arms trade. Yuri notes the five main arms dealers in the world are governments holding permanent UN Security Council seats, with a veto over any General Assembly resolutions to stop the trafficking. They are: the US, UK, France, Russia and Germany (China in the movie, though it's actually the 11th greatest arms dealer in the world. Probably changed to encompass all of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Still, four out of five...the point is made. Note, as of 2015, the top six arms dealer dealers in the world is were US, Russia, China, Germany, France, UK, in that order. So the movie just predicting ahead.is prescient about that point.).
** The film makers found it cheaper to have gun actual arms dealers provide ''real weapons and tanks'' for the film props. The tanks you see in the movie had to be back to their gun arms dealer for his deal with a foreign country.
30th Sep '16 11:01:44 PM tranquilium
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** As stated above, Yuri and his exploits are based on real people, along with the horrible facts of the international arms trade. Yuri notes the five main arms dealers in the world are governments holding permanent UN Security Council seats, with a veto over any General Assembly resolutions to stop the trafficking. They are: the US, UK, France, Russia and Germany (China in the movie, though it's actually the 11th greatest arms dealer in the world. Probably changed to encompass all of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Still, four out of five...the point is made).

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** As stated above, Yuri and his exploits are based on real people, along with the horrible facts of the international arms trade. Yuri notes the five main arms dealers in the world are governments holding permanent UN Security Council seats, with a veto over any General Assembly resolutions to stop the trafficking. They are: the US, UK, France, Russia and Germany (China in the movie, though it's actually the 11th greatest arms dealer in the world. Probably changed to encompass all of the five permanent members of the Security Council. Still, four out of five...the point is made).made. Note, as of 2015, the top six arms dealer in the world is US, Russia, China, Germany, France, UK, in that order. So the movie just predicting ahead.).
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