History Film / LawAbidingCitizen

10th Mar '18 12:14:47 PM marcoasalazarm
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:Clyde.]]

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* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler:Clyde. When it's made clear that he's screwed, he just sits down on his cot and keeps fidgeting with his daughter's bracelet as the whole cell becomes a flaming inferno.]]



* FailedASpotCheck: No one in the prison thinks to install a camera in Clyde's cell, or post a guard outside [[spoiler: even as his murder spree continues.]]

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* FailedASpotCheck: No one in the prison thinks to install a camera in Clyde's cell, or post a guard outside [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even as his murder spree continues.]]



* MrFanservice: Clyde, due to being played by Creator/GerardButler.

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* MrFanservice: Clyde, due to being played by Creator/GerardButler. He strips down to his birthday suit when SWAT raids his house to make absolutely sure that they can't consider him a hostile suspect (and gives the camera a very long look of his naked butt as well).



* ForgotAboutHisPowers: Clyde ordinary suburban homeowner, described as "a tinkerer", [[spoiler: but turns out to be a genius in defence and violence whose abilities border on the fantastic.]] But he didn't bother to protect his own home from an intruder with a baseball bat. And why? [[spoiler:Because he works best when he has prep time, not when he's surprised by said thug.]]

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* ForgotAboutHisPowers: Clyde ordinary suburban homeowner, described as "a tinkerer", [[spoiler: but [[spoiler:but turns out to be a genius in defence and violence whose abilities border on the fantastic.]] But he didn't bother to protect his own home from an intruder with a baseball bat. And why? [[spoiler:Because he works best when he has prep time, not when he's surprised by said thug.]]



** Whether intentionally or not, It's basically a movie about a SuperVillain who [[FreudianExcuse suffered great personal tragedy]] and is now trying to bring down the justice system that failed him. There's no superheroes, no setpieces, and [[spoiler:his plan ultimately fails thanks to Nick figuring the last bomb's location out. And he only was able to do that because Clyde accidentally killed Nick's assistant, whose boyfriend happened to have access to the right information, but wasn't willing to risk his job. Until his girlfriend, ostensibly just a woman who got StuffedIntoTheFridge, was killed by Clyde.]]

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** Whether intentionally or not, It's it's basically a movie about a SuperVillain who [[FreudianExcuse suffered great personal tragedy]] and is now trying to bring down the justice system that failed him. There's no superheroes, no setpieces, and [[spoiler:his plan ultimately fails thanks to Nick figuring the last bomb's location out. And he only was able to do that because Clyde accidentally killed Nick's assistant, whose boyfriend happened to have access to the right information, but wasn't willing to risk his job. Until his girlfriend, ostensibly just a woman who got StuffedIntoTheFridge, was killed by Clyde.]]



* GetIntoJailFree

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* GetIntoJailFreeGetIntoJailFree: Clyde's plan depends on allowing himself to be arrested so he'll be BeneathSuspicion as his planned killing spree continues. [[spoiler:The plot provides a RedHerring or two about other people working alongside him to execute the plan as he's considered a "brain" (gadget man and planner) by the CIA, but it turns out that, yeah, it's him all along -- he made an escape tunnel on his cell.]]



* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Clyde.

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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Clyde. From family man (that had a pretty horrendous past, but that's something he'd retired from) to criminal mastermind that organizes one of the worst InUniverse terrorist sprees in American soil since Nine-Eleven.



* {{Jerkass}}: Nick Rice starts out as this.

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* {{Jerkass}}: Nick Rice starts out as this.this, doing a very dumb legal move for (at least partially) the sake of getting more political power. By the TimeSkip occurs, he's even more of a jerk, but the rampage moulds him into the kind of jerk Clyde wants -- which is someone who will do whatever it takes to keep criminals down and out.



* JustEatGilligan: The CIA agent that meets with Nick and Cantrell points it out in the simplest fashion possible: as long as Clyde is alive, he's a threat to everybody, and they should just walk into his cell and shoot him dead ASAP. By the time Nick goes around to pull an act in the spirit of the tip (the [[spoiler: napalm bomb switcheroo]]) and decides to no longer give a damn about the legal repercussions, the body count at Clyde's hands is pretty extensive.

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* JustEatGilligan: The CIA agent that meets with Nick and Cantrell points it out in the simplest fashion possible: as long as Clyde is alive, he's a threat to everybody, and they should just walk into his cell and shoot him dead ASAP. By the time Nick goes around to pull an act in the spirit of the tip (the [[spoiler: napalm [[spoiler:napalm bomb switcheroo]]) and decides to no longer give a damn about the legal repercussions, the body count at Clyde's hands is pretty extensive.



** [[spoiler: There is also the napalm bomb trick at the end-- even with extensive evidence about Clyde being the man responsible for the attack, Nick ''did'' enter Clyde's "base" without a legal warrant (though exigent circumstances or probable cause would apply) and allow the man to die, even tricking him into activating the device that killed him. The last scene is him calmly enjoying his daughter's violin recital that same night, with no telling of how his decision to "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] (Sheldon's) rights" will [[FridgeLogic fly with the governor and the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree articles.]]]]
** The jerkass Warden who delays Shelton's catered lunch and causes [[spoiler:Bill Reynold's death]] is never targeted by Clyde. Likely justified as [[spoiler: Clyde wanted Bill Reynolds dead and the Warden had nothing to do with his family's killer getting away. Plus, Clyde was ''trolling'' the Warden so he'd get himself locked up in solitary, which is exactly where he wanted to be.]]

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** [[spoiler: There [[spoiler:There is also the napalm bomb trick at the end-- even with extensive evidence about Clyde being the man responsible for the attack, Nick ''did'' enter Clyde's "base" without a legal warrant (though exigent circumstances or probable cause would apply) and allow allowed the man to die, even tricking him into activating the device that killed him. The last scene is him calmly enjoying his daughter's violin recital that same night, with no telling of how his decision to "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] (Sheldon's) rights" will [[FridgeLogic fly with the governor and the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree articles.]]]]
** The jerkass Warden who delays Shelton's catered lunch and causes [[spoiler:Bill Reynold's Reynolds' death]] is never targeted by Clyde. Likely justified as [[spoiler: Clyde [[spoiler:Clyde wanted Bill Reynolds dead and the Warden had nothing to do with his family's killer getting away. Plus, Clyde was ''trolling'' the Warden so he'd get himself locked up in solitary, which is exactly where he wanted to be.]]



** One judge scolds Nick repeatedly for not turning off his cell phone. [[spoiler: She was killed by an explosive in her cell phone, which she hypocritically answered during a meeting with Nick.]]

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** One judge scolds Nick repeatedly for not turning off his cell phone. [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She was killed by an explosive in her cell phone, which she hypocritically answered during a meeting with Nick.]]



* KillerRobot: [[spoiler: Clyde uses a heavily modified bomb-disposal robot to kill Jonas at the graveyard.]]

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* KillerRobot: [[spoiler: Clyde [[spoiler:Clyde uses a heavily modified bomb-disposal robot to kill Jonas at the graveyard.]]



** [[spoiler: Shelton himself]] gets a dose of this, as his termination of [[spoiler: the understudy in the car bomb spree]] leads directly to [[spoiler: the understudy's boyfriend risking his job to give Nick vital information, and Nick being willing to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard rig Clyde's super-napalm bomb to the underside of the prison cot.]]]]

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** [[spoiler: Shelton [[spoiler:Shelton himself]] gets a dose of this, as his termination of [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the understudy in the car bomb spree]] leads directly to [[spoiler: the understudy's boyfriend risking his job to give Nick vital information, and Nick being willing to [[HoistByHisOwnPetard rig Clyde's super-napalm bomb to the underside of the prison cot.]]]]



* RetiredBadAss: [[spoiler:Cylde, he was a former "brain" for an unknown government agency, performing untraceable assassinations.]]

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* RetiredBadAss: RetiredBadass: [[spoiler:Cylde, he was a former "brain" for an unknown government agency, performing untraceable assassinations.]](and virtually impossible) assassinations. Also a GadgeteerGenius (the assassination the contact provides as an example of Clyde's intelligence is the creation of a tie that strangles whoever wears it, used to kill a man with absurd amounts of security.)]]



* RubeGoldbergHatesYourGuts: The movie runs on this trope.

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* RubeGoldbergHatesYourGuts: The movie runs on this trope. Even when it's explicitly shown and mentioned that Clyde took all of ten years to put every single thing in place ([[spoiler:and still fails]]), the whole situation is a GambitPileup that keeps rolling perfectly for Clyde [[spoiler:until a SpannerInTheWorks that borders on DeusExMachina manages to provide Nick the necessary avenue of counter-attack.]]



* SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:Clyde kills Nick's staff, including his blonde understudy. Said blonde's boyfriend happened to have access to critical information that he wasn't willing to risk his job over...until his girlfriend was killed.]]

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* SpannerInTheWorks: [[spoiler:Clyde kills Nick's staff, including his blonde understudy. Said blonde's boyfriend happened to have access to critical information that he wasn't willing to risk his job over... until his girlfriend was killed.]]



* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: Clyde's past as a [[spoiler: government weapon designer and "executive action" mastermind]] isn't revealed for over half the movie. The reveal itself is in the trailer, along with [[spoiler: the Judge's execution, the mass car bombing, the drone attack in the cemetery and Clyde's napalm-induced end.]]

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* TrailersAlwaysSpoil: Clyde's past as a [[spoiler: government [[spoiler:government weapon designer and "executive action" mastermind]] isn't revealed for over half the movie. The reveal itself is in the trailer, along with [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Judge's execution, the mass car bombing, the drone attack in the cemetery and Clyde's napalm-induced end.]]



* VillainProtagonist: Clyde is briefly alluded to be this in the trailer and the movie when the camera follows him up to the murder of Darby. [[spoiler: The movie's actual protagonist turns out to be [[AntiHero Nick]].]]

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* VillainProtagonist: Clyde is briefly alluded to be this in the trailer and the movie when the camera follows him up to the murder of Darby. [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The movie's actual protagonist turns out to be [[AntiHero Nick]].]]
26th Feb '18 6:20:42 PM Stellarvore
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* AtLeastIAdmitIt: Clyde doesn't try to pretend he's not a murderer and seems to be aware of his own hypocrisy, and uses it to try to prove his point about the corruption of the justice system.
25th Jan '18 10:46:44 AM cluosborne
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** [[spoiler: There is also the napalm bomb trick at the end-- even with extensive evidence about Clyde being the man responsible for the attack, Nick ''did'' enter Clyde's "base" without a legal warrant and allow the man to die, even tricking him into activating the device that killed him. The last scene is him calmly enjoying his daughter's violin recital that same night, with no telling of how his decision to "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] (Sheldon's) rights" will [[FridgeLogic fly with the governor and the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree articles.]]]]
*** [[spoiler: Clyde had already proven himself a threat to the public and law enforcement, so exigent circumstances would apply in entering Clyde's property without a warrant. Especially since that property was right across the street from the prison. That legally doesn't justify Clyde's death though.]]
** The jerkass Warden who delays Shelton's catered lunch and causes [[spoiler:Bill Reynold's death]] is never targeted by Clyde.
*** Likely justified as [[spoiler: Clyde wanted Bill Reynolds dead and the Warden had nothing to do with his family's killer getting away. Plus, Clyde was trolling the Warden so he'd get himself locked up in solitary, which is exactly where he wanted to be.]]

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** [[spoiler: There is also the napalm bomb trick at the end-- even with extensive evidence about Clyde being the man responsible for the attack, Nick ''did'' enter Clyde's "base" without a legal warrant (though exigent circumstances or probable cause would apply) and allow the man to die, even tricking him into activating the device that killed him. The last scene is him calmly enjoying his daughter's violin recital that same night, with no telling of how his decision to "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]] (Sheldon's) rights" will [[FridgeLogic fly with the governor and the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree articles.]]]]
*** [[spoiler: Clyde had already proven himself a threat to the public and law enforcement, so exigent circumstances would apply in entering Clyde's property without a warrant. Especially since that property was right across the street from the prison. That legally doesn't justify Clyde's death though.]]
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** The jerkass Warden who delays Shelton's catered lunch and causes [[spoiler:Bill Reynold's death]] is never targeted by Clyde.
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Clyde. Likely justified as [[spoiler: Clyde wanted Bill Reynolds dead and the Warden had nothing to do with his family's killer getting away. Plus, Clyde was trolling ''trolling'' the Warden so he'd get himself locked up in solitary, which is exactly where he wanted to be.]]



** Ironically, this contempt for the Constitutional rights of the accused, putting stopping them ahead of the rules, is similar to what Clyde appeared to be trying to encourage.
*** Actually, it was more about making Nick ''care'' about the people he's supposed to fight for in court instead of maintaining a spotless record.

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** Ironically, this contempt for the Constitutional rights of the accused, putting stopping them ahead of the rules, is similar to what Clyde appeared to be trying to encourage.
*** Actually, it was more
encourage. That or simply trying to make Nick care about making Nick ''care'' about the people he's supposed to fight for in court instead of maintaining a spotless record.actually doing his job.



*** An argument against all that is that when you only care about yourself and not about the people you're supposed to fight for in court, sooner or later, someone is going to lash out against it all. The criminal justice system only works when the people in the system actually care about doing their jobs and not for the sake of their own careers or treating it like an assembly line.

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*** An argument against all that is that when you only care ** Not caring about yourself and not about the people you're doing your job where you are supposed to fight for in court, sooner or later, someone care more about other people than yourself is going to lash out against it all. The criminal justice system only works when the people land you in the system actually care about doing their jobs and not for the sake of their own careers or treating it like an assembly line.trouble.
10th Jan '18 12:56:00 PM Rebu
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*** Though it's not explicitly noted, [[spoiler:Nick's assistant is just one of ''several'' people who are blown up by Clyde. The ''only'' reason she can be considered StuffedIntoTheFridge is because she got a name and character development.]]

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*** Though it's not explicitly noted, [[spoiler:Nick's assistant is just one of ''several'' people who are blown up by Clyde. The ''only'' reason she can be considered StuffedIntoTheFridge is because she got had a name and character development.development and a ''slightly'' more dramatic death than everyone else. Clyde left her for last just to mess with Nick.]]



* MuggingTheMonster: Ames and Darby just happen to rob the home of a retired [[spoiler: CIA assassination expert.]]

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* MuggingTheMonster: Ames and Darby just happen to rob the home of a retired [[spoiler: CIA [[spoiler:CIA assassination expert.]]
16th Oct '17 7:25:48 PM cluosborne
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** One judge scolds Nick repeatedly for not turning off his cell phone. [[spoiler: She was killed by a gun in her cell phone, which she hypocritically answered during a meeting with Nick.]]

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** One judge scolds Nick repeatedly for not turning off his cell phone. [[spoiler: She was killed by a gun an explosive in her cell phone, which she hypocritically answered during a meeting with Nick.]]
13th Oct '17 3:34:51 PM cluosborne
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13th Oct '17 3:33:05 PM cluosborne
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** Also Nick has a wife and daughter just like Clyde used to; especially after his daughter gets the DVD in the mail, it's implied Clyde might go after them so Nick will know how it feels to lose them. He never does.

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** Also Nick has a wife and daughter just like Clyde used to; especially after his daughter gets the DVD in the mail, it's implied Clyde might go after them so Nick will know how it feels to lose them. He never does.does and backs off after Nick makes it clear that if Clyde even thinks about going after his family, he's finished.
13th Oct '17 11:31:45 AM cluosborne
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*** An argument against all that is that when you only care about yourself and not about the people you're supposed to fight for in court, sooner or later, someone is going to lash out against it all. The criminal justice system only works when the people in the system actually care about doing their jobs and not for the sake of their own careers.

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*** An argument against all that is that when you only care about yourself and not about the people you're supposed to fight for in court, sooner or later, someone is going to lash out against it all. The criminal justice system only works when the people in the system actually care about doing their jobs and not for the sake of their own careers.careers or treating it like an assembly line.
13th Oct '17 11:28:28 AM cluosborne
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*** An argument against all that is that when you only care about yourself and not about the people you're supposed to fight for in court, sooner or later, someone is going to lash out against it all. The criminal justice system only works when the people in the system actually care about doing their jobs and not for the sake of their own careers.
12th Oct '17 12:00:36 PM cluosborne
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*** [[spoiler: Clyde had already proven himself a threat to the public and law enforcement, so exigent circumstances would apply in entering Clyde's property without a warrant. Especially since that property was right across the street from the prison. That legally doesn't justify Clyde's death though.]]
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