History Film / JosieAndThePussyCats

24th May '16 1:18:39 AM PaulA
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* ForTheEvulz: For no apparent reason, Wyatt seems to be deliberately degrading and trivializing Valerie from the very start; he leaves her on the side of the street when their car starts, delivers only two invitations to the party instead of three, etc. There seems to be no actual ''goal'' here, since he is not trying to force her out of the band or split up the friendship (at least, not until later, when [[HeKnowsTooMuch she starts asking questions]]). It really seems like he is torturing her [[ForTheEvulz just to see her squirm]].
** On the DVD commentary, they say it's because [[NobodyLovesTheBassist she's the bass player]].
** In addition, he's trying to force the Pussycats into ''his'' vision of the band (Josie as the FaceOfTheBand, with Valerie and Melody as backup). The reason he isn't grinding down Mel too is because she's [[TheDitz obviously going to be far less trouble]]. On a more sinister level, he might even be deliberately laying future seeds of conflict to keep the Pussycats too distracted with infighting to stumble across the truth like Dujour did.

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* ForTheEvulz: For no apparent reason, Wyatt seems to be deliberately degrading and trivializing Valerie from the very start; he leaves her on the side of the street when their car starts, delivers only two invitations to the party instead of three, etc. There seems to be no actual ''goal'' here, since he is not trying to force her out of the band or split up the friendship (at least, not until later, when [[HeKnowsTooMuch she starts asking questions]]). It really seems like he is torturing her [[ForTheEvulz just to see her squirm]]. \n** On the DVD commentary, they say it's because [[NobodyLovesTheBassist she's the bass player]].
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player]]. In addition, he's trying to force the Pussycats into ''his'' vision of the band (Josie as the FaceOfTheBand, with Valerie and Melody as backup). The reason he isn't grinding down Mel too is because she's [[TheDitz obviously going to be far less trouble]]. On a more sinister level, he might even be deliberately laying future seeds of conflict to keep the Pussycats too distracted with infighting to stumble across the truth like Dujour did.



** "Backdoor Lover" is a rare example of a triple entendre. The song could just be about sneaking into your house at night for some nookie without your parents noticing, but it gets worse. A backdoor man is a term for someone who is conducting a surreptitious affair with someone who is already in an established relationship, and the song does indeed mention right at the start that the love is wrong, giving credence to this meaning as well. Worse, however, "backdoor lover" has quite another meaning as well, and the song mentions running hands over cheeks, lying on the bed looking up at the "moon", and of course "coming" in through the back door and from behind. And naturally, [[AmbiguouslyGay the song never actually gives any indication that the lover they're singing to is, in fact, female, and makes frequent references to their love being forbidden or seen as a sin.]]
*** In fact, the full version of the song features the following line: "Most people use the front door/But that's never been my way/Just 'cause I slip in through the back/That doesn't make me...hey!"

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** "Backdoor Lover" is a rare example of a triple entendre. The song could just be about sneaking into your house at night for some nookie without your parents noticing, but it gets worse. A backdoor man is a term for someone who is conducting a surreptitious affair with someone who is already in an established relationship, and the song does indeed mention right at the start that the love is wrong, giving credence to this meaning as well. Worse, however, "backdoor lover" has quite another meaning as well, and the song mentions running hands over cheeks, lying on the bed looking up at the "moon", and of course "coming" in through the back door and from behind. And naturally, [[AmbiguouslyGay the song never actually gives any indication that the lover they're singing to is, in fact, female, and makes frequent references to their love being forbidden or seen as a sin.]]
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]] In fact, the full version of the song features the following line: "Most people use the front door/But that's never been my way/Just 'cause I slip in through the back/That doesn't make me...hey!"



-->'''Alex:''' "What?"
-->'''Alexandra:''' "Nothing."



** [[spoiler:Wyatt]] and [[spoiler:Fiona]] both attended "Huntington High School", the same school from the filmmakers' [[Film/CantHardlyWait previous movie]].

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** [[spoiler:Wyatt]] and [[spoiler:Fiona]] both attended "Huntington High School", the same school from the filmmakers' [[Film/CantHardlyWait previous movie]].movie, ''Film/CantHardlyWait''.



* SubliminalAdvertising: The record company is putting subliminal messages into music in order to sell consumer products. The movie itself does this with one scene, where the words "''Josie and the Pussycats'' [[ShamelessSelfPromoter is the best movie ever]]!" are quickly flashed up on the screen and read out by Mr. Moviefone, with the words "Join the Army" in smaller print below.
** That example is really more superliminal. But for a true example, in the scene where Fiona explains [[EvilPlan the goal]] of [=MegaRecords=], the message "''Film/CantHardlyWait'' is under-rated" scrolls by on the wall in the background. Both this film and ''Can't Hardly Wait'' were written and directed by Deborah Kaplan and Harry Elfont.
** Creator/RogerEbert took the film to task for calling the hidden messages "subliminal" when they are in fact subaural.

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* SubliminalAdvertising: The record company is putting subliminal messages into music in order to sell consumer products. The movie itself does this with one scene, where the words "''Josie and the Pussycats'' [[ShamelessSelfPromoter is the best movie ever]]!" are quickly flashed up on the screen and read out by Mr. Moviefone, with the words "Join the Army" in smaller print below.
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below. That example is really more superliminal. But for a true example, in the scene where Fiona explains [[EvilPlan the goal]] of [=MegaRecords=], the message "''Film/CantHardlyWait'' is under-rated" scrolls by on the wall in the background. Both this film and ''Can't Hardly Wait'' were written and directed by Deborah Kaplan and Harry Elfont.
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Elfont. Creator/RogerEbert took the film to task for calling the hidden messages "subliminal" when they are in fact subaural.



-->'''Melody:''' "I want a Big Mac!"
-->'''Valerie:''' "But, Mel, you're a vegetarian."
-->'''Melody:''' "I know, but suddenly I want one!"

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-->'''Melody:''' "I I want a Big Mac!"
-->'''Valerie:''' "But,
Mac!\\
'''Valerie:''' But,
Mel, you're a vegetarian."
-->'''Melody:''' "I
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'''Melody:''' I
know, but suddenly I want one!" one!
24th May '16 1:13:41 AM PaulA
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* CompletelyMissingThePoint: Many film critics complained about the ProductPlacement, clearly missing that they were intended as a ''parody'' of intrusive product placement in films. Without the product placement, the film wouldn't have anything to back up its consumerism plot.
** The critics are justified on one point, though, as it's hard to parody product placement without the brands still getting more or less what they want (name recognition, etc.)
5th Feb '16 3:07:14 PM fruitstripegum
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* CompletelyMissingThePoint: Many film critics complained about the ProductPlacement, clearly missing that they were intended as a ''parody'' of intrusive product placement in films. Without the product placement, the film wouldn't have anything to back up its consumerism plot.
** The critics are justified on one point, though, as it's hard to parody product placement without the brands still getting more or less what they want (name recognition, etc.)



* CoolLoser: The Pussycats at the beginning of the film. Yes, that's right. Rachael Leigh Cook, Creator/RosarioDawson and (pre-trainwreck) Tara Reid are presented as ''unpopular''. Gotta love Hollywood.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Fiona.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Melody unexpectedly turns out to be an amazing martial artist.



* CompletelyMissingThePoint: Many film critics complained about the ProductPlacement, clearly missing that they were intended as a ''parody'' of intrusive product placement in films. Without the product placement, the film wouldn't have anything to back up its consumerism plot.
** The critics are justified on one point, though, as it's hard to parody product placement without the brands still getting more or less what they want (name recognition, etc.)
* CoolLoser: The Pussycats at the beginning of the film. Yes, that's right. Rachael Leigh Cook, Creator/RosarioDawson and (pre-trainwreck) Tara Reid are presented as ''unpopular''. Gotta love Hollywood.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Fiona.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Melody unexpectedly turns out to be an amazing martial artist.
29th Nov '15 4:23:01 AM Morgenthaler
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** To ''[[RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion]]'', which also starred Creator/AlanCumming.

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** To ''[[RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion]]'', ''Film/RomyAndMichelesHighSchoolReunion'', which also starred Creator/AlanCumming.
14th Nov '15 11:18:16 PM nombretomado
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** RogerEbert took the film to task for calling the hidden messages "subliminal" when they are in fact subaural.

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** RogerEbert Creator/RogerEbert took the film to task for calling the hidden messages "subliminal" when they are in fact subaural.
5th Sep '15 12:54:27 AM tropeminer
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* DeconstructiveParody: Not only of itself, but most notably of the entire music industry.
22nd Jul '15 10:18:21 AM Scriptrix
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* TheCuckoolanderWasRight: After Josie asks the others they think Wyatt's offer of a record deal is a "little off", Melody, apparently accurately, noted the way he folded his ''napkin'' as an indicator of how lonely he his.

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* TheCuckoolanderWasRight: After Josie asks the others they think Wyatt's offer of a record deal is a "little off", Melody, apparently accurately, noted the way he folded his ''napkin'' as an indicator of how lonely he his.is.



* EvilIsPetty: All of the conspiracy, million of dollars of technology, and nearly getting the girls killed, and the endgame plan... [[spoiler:is to get people to think how cool Fiona is.]] Just..wow.

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* EvilIsPetty: All of the conspiracy, million of dollars of technology, and nearly getting the girls killed, and the endgame plan... [[spoiler:is to get people to think how cool Fiona is.]] Just..Just... wow.



* HotterAndSexier: Their outfits are just a tad hotter than one piece swimsuits and leopard tights.
* LargeHam: Creator/ParkerPosey and Creator/AlanCumming are practically ''dueling'' for this title - explicitly so in the scene where they ''duel'' evil laughs.

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* HotterAndSexier: Their outfits are just a tad hotter than one piece one-piece swimsuits and leopard tights.
* LargeHam: Creator/ParkerPosey and Creator/AlanCumming are practically ''dueling'' for this title - title, explicitly so in the scene where they ''duel'' evil laughs.
22nd Nov '14 12:49:09 PM MagBas
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* ForTheEvulz: For no apparent reason, Wyatt seems to be deliberately degrading and trivializing Valerie from the very start; he leaves her on the side of the street when their car starts, delivers only two invitations to the party instead of three, etc. There seems to be no actual ''goal'' here, since he is not trying to force her out of the band or split up the friendship (at least, not until later, when [[HeKnowsTooMuch she starts asking questions]]). It really seems like he is torturing her [[ForTheEvulz just to see her squirm]]. The added fact that she is [[TokenMinority the black one]] gives [[UnfortunateImplications another unpleasant layer to the situation]].

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* ForTheEvulz: For no apparent reason, Wyatt seems to be deliberately degrading and trivializing Valerie from the very start; he leaves her on the side of the street when their car starts, delivers only two invitations to the party instead of three, etc. There seems to be no actual ''goal'' here, since he is not trying to force her out of the band or split up the friendship (at least, not until later, when [[HeKnowsTooMuch she starts asking questions]]). It really seems like he is torturing her [[ForTheEvulz just to see her squirm]]. The added fact that she is [[TokenMinority the black one]] gives [[UnfortunateImplications another unpleasant layer to the situation]].
14th Nov '14 9:39:43 AM tropeminer
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''Josie and the Pussycats'' is a 2001 film adapted from [[Comicbook/JosieAndThePussycats the comic of the same name]], starring Creator/RachaelLeighCook, Creator/RosarioDawson and Tara Reid. It is about the titular all-female rock band getting the deal of a lifetime after struggling as an indie band -- a record deal with [=MegaRecords=], one of the largest music labels in the world. Within a week, the band has skyrocketed to the top of the charts, and a legion of {{squee}}ing fans is following their every move. Unfortunately, there was some fine print in the contract that they should've read before they signed... you know, some stuff about having [[SubliminalAdvertising subliminal messages]] put in your music to sell stuff, and "dying tragically" in a plane crash or from an overdose if you [[HeKnowsTooMuch find out]] and resist. That sort of thing.

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''Josie '''''Josie and the Pussycats'' Pussycats''''' is a 2001 film adapted from [[Comicbook/JosieAndThePussycats the comic of the same name]], starring Creator/RachaelLeighCook, Creator/RosarioDawson and Tara Reid. It is about the titular all-female rock band getting the deal of a lifetime after struggling as an indie band -- a record deal with [=MegaRecords=], one of the largest music labels in the world.

Within a week, the band has skyrocketed to the top of the charts, and a legion of {{squee}}ing fans is following their every move. Unfortunately, there was some fine print in the contract that they should've read before they signed... you know, some stuff about having [[SubliminalAdvertising subliminal messages]] put in your music to sell stuff, and "dying tragically" in a plane crash or from an overdose if you [[HeKnowsTooMuch find out]] and resist. That sort of thing.
9th Nov '14 3:29:22 PM DaibhidC
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''Josie and the Pussycats'' is a 2001 film adapted from [[JosieAndThePussycats the comic of the same name]], starring Creator/RachaelLeighCook, Creator/RosarioDawson and Tara Reid. It is about the titular all-female rock band getting the deal of a lifetime after struggling as an indie band -- a record deal with [=MegaRecords=], one of the largest music labels in the world. Within a week, the band has skyrocketed to the top of the charts, and a legion of {{squee}}ing fans is following their every move. Unfortunately, there was some fine print in the contract that they should've read before they signed... you know, some stuff about having [[SubliminalAdvertising subliminal messages]] put in your music to sell stuff, and "dying tragically" in a plane crash or from an overdose if you [[HeKnowsTooMuch find out]] and resist. That sort of thing.

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''Josie and the Pussycats'' is a 2001 film adapted from [[JosieAndThePussycats [[Comicbook/JosieAndThePussycats the comic of the same name]], starring Creator/RachaelLeighCook, Creator/RosarioDawson and Tara Reid. It is about the titular all-female rock band getting the deal of a lifetime after struggling as an indie band -- a record deal with [=MegaRecords=], one of the largest music labels in the world. Within a week, the band has skyrocketed to the top of the charts, and a legion of {{squee}}ing fans is following their every move. Unfortunately, there was some fine print in the contract that they should've read before they signed... you know, some stuff about having [[SubliminalAdvertising subliminal messages]] put in your music to sell stuff, and "dying tragically" in a plane crash or from an overdose if you [[HeKnowsTooMuch find out]] and resist. That sort of thing.
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