History Film / EnemyAtTheGates

10th Feb '18 8:40:20 AM TheTropingGopher
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Konig has a very silent one when he realises [[he’s been duped into leaving his hiding spot and is now in Vasily’s crosshairs. Instead of trying to run or fight back, he accepts his fate with dignity.]]

to:

** Konig has a very silent one when he realises [[he’s [[spoiler: he’s been duped into leaving his hiding spot and is now in Vasily’s crosshairs. Instead of trying to run or fight back, he accepts his fate with dignity.]]
10th Feb '18 8:39:38 AM TheTropingGopher
Is there an issue? Send a Message


FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Danilov before his [[spoiler: HeroicSuicide.]] After stabbing his friend in the back and eventually getting a child killed with his methods, he decides to help Vasily one last time...[[spoiler: by ‘showing him where the Major is hiding’.]]

to:

FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: *FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Danilov before his [[spoiler: HeroicSuicide.]] After stabbing his friend in the back and eventually getting a child killed with his methods, he decides to help Vasily one last time...[[spoiler: by ‘showing him where the Major is hiding’.]]
10th Feb '18 8:38:33 AM TheTropingGopher
Is there an issue? Send a Message


FacingTheBulletsOneLiner: Danilov before his [[spoiler: HeroicSuicide.]] After stabbing his friend in the back and eventually getting a child killed with his methods, he decides to help Vasily one last time...[[spoiler: by ‘showing him where the Major is hiding’.]]



*FailedASpotCheck: [[spoiler: Konig doesn’t notice Vasily standing a couple of feet away aiming at him until it’s too late.]]



**Konig has a very silent one when he realises [[he’s been duped into leaving his hiding spot and is now in Vasily’s crosshairs. Instead of trying to run or fight back, he accepts his fate with dignity.]]



** A more minor example between [[spoiler: Konig and Sacha. Sacha never really was working for Konig, but Konig feels this way when he catches Sacha ratting on him and as punishment, he ‘’’hangs him’’’ from a Water Tower.]]

to:

** A more minor example between [[spoiler: Konig and Sacha. Sacha never really was working for Konig, but Konig feels this way when he catches Sacha ratting on him and as punishment, he ‘’’hangs him’’’ hangs him from a Water Tower.]]
10th Feb '18 8:27:10 AM TheTropingGopher
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*WouldHurtAChild: Major Konig. [[spoiler: When he deduces that Sacha has been feeding him false information and aiding Vasily, he drags him out into a trainyard and, apparently with much regret, lynches the frightened child from the water tower as a lure for Vasily.]]


Added DiffLines:

**A more minor example between [[spoiler: Konig and Sacha. Sacha never really was working for Konig, but Konig feels this way when he catches Sacha ratting on him and as punishment, he ‘’’hangs him’’’ from a Water Tower.]]
12th Dec '17 12:05:14 AM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* IdealizedSex: {{Averted}}. There's a realistically awkward sex scene between the main protagonist and the love interest. It's awkward because they do it in the subways below Stalingrad, surrounded by sleeping people because it's being used as a bomb shelter, and so they have to try to not wake anybody up and don't have much room for themselves. So they just kinda roll over each other, try to take pull down each others' pants and get his penis into her without waking up a guy sleeping a foot away.

to:

* IdealizedSex: {{Averted}}. There's a realistically awkward sex scene between the main protagonist and the love interest. It's awkward because they do it in the subways below Stalingrad, surrounded by sleeping people because it's being used as a bomb shelter, and so they have to try to not wake anybody up and don't have much room for themselves. So they just kinda roll over each other, try to take pull down each others' pants and get his penis into her without waking up a guy sleeping a foot away.



* OhCrap: The last two Germans Vasily kills certainly get one when they realize that in the span of less then thirty seconds, three of their comrades were killed, and they had little idea where the shots came from. The final one definitely qualifies when he realized his weapon was not within arms reach (something that EVERY army from UsefulNotes/WW1 on drills into its soldiers from the moment they start training-NEVER leave your weapon where you can not quickly grab it, and use it).

to:

* OhCrap: The last two Germans Vasily kills certainly get one when they realize that in the span of less then thirty seconds, three of their comrades were killed, and they had little idea where the shots came from. The final one definitely qualifies when he realized his weapon was not within arms reach (something that EVERY army from UsefulNotes/WW1 on drills into its soldiers from the moment they start training-NEVER leave your weapon where you can not cannot quickly grab it, it and use it).
11th Aug '17 2:12:15 PM zaqq
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** It's also debatable as to how great a sniper the real Zaystev actually was. As shown in the movie, the Soviet propaganda machine worked overtime to build him up to a god like status.

to:

** It's also debatable as to how great a sniper the real Zaystev Zaytsev actually was. As shown in the movie, the Soviet propaganda machine worked overtime to build him up to a god like status.



* {{Chickification}}: In the book, Tania is a borderline SociopathicSoldier with a mild infatuation with Zaitsev. In the movie, she's a lovesick DamselInDistress and love interest who occasionally is implied to do some soldiering.

to:

* {{Chickification}}: In the book, Tania is a borderline SociopathicSoldier with a mild infatuation with Zaitsev.Zaytsev. In the movie, she's a lovesick DamselInDistress and love interest who occasionally is implied to do some soldiering.



* DeathByAdaptation: You wouldn't believe Kulikov is anything more than a MauveShirt, but in fact he is the first person to contribute to the "Zaitsev versus Elite German Sniper" story and lived well past the war.
* DemotedToExtra: In the book, Tania is the main "character" of the subplot the movie is based on (the real-life Tania was the one interviewed for the book, after all), with Zatsev serving as her mentor; the movie focuses entirely on Zeytsev, and demotes Tania to a supporting character. General Paulus is arguably ''the'' main character of the book (being the German commander and all), but only has a few seconds of screen time.

to:

* DeathByAdaptation: You wouldn't believe Kulikov is anything more than a MauveShirt, but in fact he is the first person to contribute to the "Zaitsev "Zaytsev versus Elite German Sniper" story and lived well past the war.
* DemotedToExtra: In the book, Tania is the main "character" of the subplot the movie is based on (the real-life Tania was the one interviewed for the book, after all), with Zatsev Zaytsev serving as her mentor; the movie focuses entirely on Zeytsev, Zaytsev, and demotes Tania to a supporting character. General Paulus is arguably ''the'' main character of the book (being the German commander and all), but only has a few seconds of screen time.



* FriendlySniper: Jude Law's portrayal of Soviet sniper Vasily Zaitsev. He's pretty affable and chatty towards fellow soldiers and civilians alike. [[ColdSniper On the battlefield, however...]]

to:

* FriendlySniper: Jude Law's portrayal of Soviet sniper Vasily Zaitsev.Zaytsev. He's pretty affable and chatty towards fellow soldiers and civilians alike. [[ColdSniper On the battlefield, however...]]



* OnlyAFleshWound: Zaitsev shoots König at the base of the index finger of his left hand with a 7.62mm rifle from less than 100 meters. We see a little splotch of blood, and König spends the rest of the movie with his hand wrapped in gauze. In reality, a shot from a rifle of that caliber at a range that close would have taken his index finger off, and very likely the middle finger with it.

to:

* OnlyAFleshWound: Zaitsev Zaytsev shoots König at the base of the index finger of his left hand with a 7.62mm rifle from less than 100 meters. We see a little splotch of blood, and König spends the rest of the movie with his hand wrapped in gauze. In reality, a shot from a rifle of that caliber at a range that close would have taken his index finger off, and very likely the middle finger with it.



** Zaystev is the only character who's portrayal matches the more accurate ones documented in the book; Tania is portrayed as a slightly sociopathic ColdSniper, König is not seeking revenge (and likely didn't exist), and several other characters from the movie weren't real.

to:

** Zaystev Zaytsev is the only character who's portrayal matches the more accurate ones documented in the book; Tania is portrayed as a slightly sociopathic ColdSniper, König is not seeking revenge (and likely didn't exist), and several other characters from the movie weren't real.



** Subverted. [[spoiler:Commissar Danilov has a report written on Zaitsev's disloyalty, defeatist statements and disillusionment with the Communist cause, but Zaitsev survives and becomes a war hero.]]

to:

** Subverted. [[spoiler:Commissar Danilov has a report written on Zaitsev's Zaytsev's disloyalty, defeatist statements and disillusionment with the Communist cause, but Zaitsev Zaytsev survives and becomes a war hero.]]
8th May '17 5:37:34 AM maxravenclaw
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ThePoliticalOfficer: Several political officers are seen [[WeHaveReserves shooting anyone attempting to retreat]].[[note]] This is actually TruthInTelevision as Stalin made it very clear that no retreat of any kind was allowed and specifically ordered the NKVD (predecessor of the KGB) to shoot anyone who retreated.[[/note]] The deuteragonist Danilov is a reasonably nice person, though.

to:

* ThePoliticalOfficer: Several political officers are seen [[WeHaveReserves shooting anyone attempting to retreat]].[[note]] This is actually TruthInTelevision as Stalin made it very clear that no retreat of any kind was allowed and specifically ordered the NKVD (predecessor of the KGB) to shoot anyone who retreated.[[/note]] The deuteragonist Danilov is a reasonably nice person, though.
2nd Mar '17 10:22:30 PM TheFuzzinator
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* BeautyIsNeverTarnished: Averted. Tania and the other women soldiers are just as filthy and unkempt as the men.
1st Mar '17 5:14:22 AM Rmpdc
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* PrettyLittleHeadshots: There is no way that a rifle of that caliber would create a small hole in someone's head and nothing more.

to:

* PrettyLittleHeadshots: There is no way that a rifle German or Soviet rifles of that caliber those calibers would create a small hole in someone's head and nothing more.
1st Mar '17 5:08:05 AM Rmpdc
Is there an issue? Send a Message


%%* BattleCouple: Two of the snipers working with Zaytsev early in the film. [[WarIsHell They both die soon after being introduced.]]

to:

%%* * BattleCouple: Two of the snipers working with Zaytsev early in the film. [[WarIsHell They both die soon after being introduced.]]]]
** Tanya and Vasily themselves become this later on. This is especially evident during one encounter with Major Konig, as she manages to help him defeat the Major (non-lethally).



%%* FriendlySniper: Jude Law's portrayal of Soviet sniper Vasily Zaitsev.

to:

%%* * FriendlySniper: Jude Law's portrayal of Soviet sniper Vasily Zaitsev.Zaitsev. He's pretty affable and chatty towards fellow soldiers and civilians alike. [[ColdSniper On the battlefield, however...]]



* JustPlaneWrong: By this point in the war, the infamous "Jerhico Trumpet" that the Ju-87 "Stuka" was known for had been removed as it actually slowed the aircraft down, and didn't really offer any tactical benefit other then scaring the ever-living piss out of anyone under it. Also, by this point, the Stuka had been upgraded with two 20mm cannons in place of the 7.9mm machine guns it originally had, meaning the poor saps in the ferries would've been turned into shark chum, and the ferries into drift wood.
This list shows the last 10 events of 153. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Film.EnemyAtTheGates