History Film / Dave

3rd Jun '16 12:25:56 PM MikeW
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* ThreatBackfire: When Dave intends to go through with his job plan and Alexander refuses to let him, Dave fires him. Bob snorts that ''he's'' in charge and he'll fire Dave. After a pause, Dave says he's perfectly fine going right out and telling the press that the White House Chief of Staff conspired to have an imposter be the President of the United States just to keep his own schemes going. When the First Lady enters, she makes it clear she knows the truth about Dave as well and Bob realizes that if he exposes the scheme, he'll be blamed far more than Dave.

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* ThreatBackfire: When Dave intends to go through with his job plan and Alexander refuses to let him, Dave fires him. Bob snorts that ''he's'' in charge and he'll fire Dave. After a pause, Dave says he's perfectly fine going right out and telling the press that the White House Chief of Staff conspired to have an imposter be the President of the United States just to keep his own schemes going. himself in power. When the First Lady enters, she makes it clear she knows the truth about Dave as well and Bob realizes that if he exposes the scheme, he'll be blamed far more than Dave.Dave and face serious jail time. Dave off-hand says he expects Bob's resignation by the time he gets back as he leaves.
3rd Jun '16 12:23:29 PM MikeW
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* ThreatBackfire: When Dave intends to go through with his job plan and Alexander refuses to let him, Dave fires him. Bob snorts that ''he's'' in charge and he'll fire Dave. After a pause, Dave says he's perfectly fine going right out and telling the press that the White House Chief of Staff conspired to have an imposter be the President of the United States just to keep his own schemes going. When the First Lady enters, she makes it clear she knows the truth about Dave as well and Bob realizes that if he exposes the scheme, he'll be blamed far more than Dave.
18th Jan '16 4:13:59 PM Odacon_Spy
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* ChewingTheScenery: "'''YES!''' Die, you POND'''SCUM'''!!!"

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* ChewingTheScenery: "'''YES!''' Die, you POND'''SCUM'''!!!"POND''SCUM''!!!"
18th Jan '16 4:13:38 PM Odacon_Spy
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* ChewingTheScenery: "'''YES!''' Die, you PUNK '''SCUM'''!!!"

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* ChewingTheScenery: "'''YES!''' Die, you PUNK '''SCUM'''!!!"POND'''SCUM'''!!!"
23rd Dec '15 10:51:33 AM 32_Footsteps
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* SelfDeprecation: Oliver Stone in his cameo, making fun of his ConspiracyTheorist public persona that arose after he made ''Film/{{JFK}}''. The irony, of course, is that he's right in this instance.


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** More pointedly, Murray gives Dave a quick version of this as he's leaving after helping Dave with balancing the federal budget. This is when Dave realizes that the deception can't continue.
29th Oct '15 8:35:12 PM PaulA
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* [[DysfunctionalFamily Dysfunctional Marriage]]: This is the reason why the ManipulativeBastard dares to pull this off - the real president and his wife are so estranged that they barely talk anymore to each other. Unfortunately, no one counted on Dave being a much better match for Mrs. Mitchell than her husband...

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* [[DysfunctionalFamily Dysfunctional Marriage]]: DysfunctionalFamily: This is the reason why the ManipulativeBastard dares to pull this off - the real president and his wife are so estranged that they barely talk anymore to each other. Unfortunately, no one counted on Dave being a much better match for Mrs. Mitchell than her husband...



-->'''Dave''': [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments I once caught a fish]] ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments this]]'' [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments big!]]
* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: When the White House Chief of Staff and Communications Director conspire to replace the incapacitated president with an impersonator in order to pursue their own agendas it is a nefarious conspiracy. When the impersonator himself, his new squeeze the First Lady and a Secret Service agent do the same thing it is portrayed as heartwarming and principled.
** It kind of helps, however, that the Chief of Staff is doing so for venal and self-centred reasons (in addition to his own corruption, he's basically trying to manipulate the situation so that he ends up as President) while Dave and his friends are doing so with selfless motives and to make the world a better place.
** Arguably Dave's more selfless motives make his crime greater, on the grounds that someone taking over as president by false pretences because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans is more dangerous to the ''principle'' of democracy than the same being done by a [[AtLeastIAdmitIt self-admitted]] {{Jerkass}} like Alexander.
** Unlike Alexander, Dave was willing to end the deception once he found out the VP was not mentally ill so it was no longer necessary for him to continue.

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-->'''Dave''': [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments I once caught a fish]] ''[[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments this]]'' [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments big!]]
fish ''this'' big!
* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: When the White House Chief of Staff and Communications Director conspire to replace the incapacitated president with an impersonator in order to pursue their own agendas it is a nefarious conspiracy. When the impersonator himself, his new squeeze the First Lady and a Secret Service agent do the same thing it is portrayed as heartwarming and principled. \n** It kind of helps, however, that the Chief of Staff is doing so for venal and self-centred reasons (in addition to his own corruption, he's basically trying to manipulate the situation so that he ends up as President) while Dave and his friends are doing so with selfless motives and to does make the world a better place.
** Arguably Dave's more selfless motives make his crime greater, on the grounds that someone taking over as president by false pretences because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans is more dangerous to the ''principle'' of democracy than the same being done by a [[AtLeastIAdmitIt self-admitted]] {{Jerkass}} like Alexander.
** Unlike
some difference that, unlike Alexander, Dave was willing to end the deception once he found out the VP was not mentally ill so it was no longer necessary for him to continue.



* ThePuppetCutsHisStrings: Dave realizes that he can use Mitchell's office to push his own agenda of helping the disenfranchised. The moment he cuts his strings is very clear, as he faces down Alexander in front of a budget committee he should never have convened.



** ThePuppetCutsHisStrings: Dave realizes that he can use Mitchell's office to push his own agenda of helping the disenfranchised. The moment he cuts his strings is very clear, as he faces down Alexander in front of a budget committee he should never have convened.
* ScaryBlackMan / TheStoic: Dave's Secret Service bodyguard, Duane Stevensen.

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** ThePuppetCutsHisStrings: Dave realizes that he can use Mitchell's office to push his own agenda of helping the disenfranchised. The moment he cuts his strings is very clear, as he faces down Alexander in front of a budget committee he should never have convened.
* ScaryBlackMan / TheStoic: ScaryBlackMan: Dave's Secret Service bodyguard, Duane Stevensen.



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism: The movie is firmly idealistic.

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism: SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: The movie is firmly idealistic.


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* TheStoic: Dave's Secret Service bodyguard, Duane Stevensen.
11th Aug '15 6:00:43 PM eroock
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* OneSceneWonder: Bonnie Hunt as the White House tour guide.
7th Jul '15 9:51:47 AM Morgenthaler
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The rest of the main cast includes Creator/SigourneyWeaver as the socially conscious First Lady, Kevin Dunn as another advisor in on the conspiracy, and VingRhames as a Secret Service agent.

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The rest of the main cast includes Creator/SigourneyWeaver as the socially conscious First Lady, Kevin Dunn as another advisor in on the conspiracy, and VingRhames Creator/VingRhames as a Secret Service agent.
22nd Jun '15 5:08:18 PM Anddrix
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: When the White House Chief of Staff and Communications Director conspire to replace the incapacitated president with an impersonator in order to pursue their own agendas it is a nefarious conspiracy. When the impersonator himself, his new squeeze the First Lady and a Secret Service agent do the same thing it is portrayed as heartwarming and principled.
** It kind of helps, however, that the Chief of Staff is doing so for venal and self-centred reasons (in addition to his own corruption, he's basically trying to manipulate the situation so that he ends up as President) while Dave and his friends are doing so with selfless motives and to make the world a better place.
** Arguably Dave's more selfless motives make his crime greater, on the grounds that someone taking over as president by false pretences because UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans is more dangerous to the ''principle'' of democracy than the same being done by a [[AtLeastIAdmitIt self-admitted]] {{Jerkass}} like Alexander.
** Unlike Alexander, Dave was willing to end the deception once he found out the VP was not mentally ill so it was no longer necessary for him to continue.
31st May '15 6:08:28 PM kyeo
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* IncrediblyLamePun: Alexander orders Dave to call his office and explain his absence while impersonating the President. Dave lamely makes up a cover story about falling in LoveAtFirstSight:
--> '''Dave Kovic''': She's great. She's really exotic! She's a princess! She's Polynesian - well, half Polynesian, and half American. She's... Amnesian.


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* OneSceneWonder: Bonnie Hunt as the White House tour guide.
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