History Film / CitizenKane

7th May '18 5:45:54 PM AnotherGuy
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-->'''Jed:''' You know what the headline was the day before the election, "Candidate Kane found in love nest with quote, singer, unquote." He was gonna take the quotes off the singer!

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-->'''Jed:''' You know what the headline was the day before the election, "Candidate Kane found in love nest with quote, [[AirQuotes quote]], singer, unquote.[[AirQuotes unquote]]." He was gonna take the quotes off the singer!
7th May '18 5:45:10 PM AnotherGuy
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-->'''Jed:''' You know what the headline was the day before the election, "Candidate Kane found in love nest with quote, singer, unquote." He was gonna take the quotes off the singer!
7th May '18 5:44:14 PM AnotherGuy
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* AirQuotes: InUniverse and a PlotPoint: Jed chuckles that Kane was determined to make Susan an accomplished opera star to TakeThat the newspaper describing her as a "singer".
7th May '18 5:42:29 PM AnotherGuy
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* EveryoneHasStandards: Even Jim Gettys is shocked Welles won't listen to his wife ''or'' Susan and spare them humiliation.
5th May '18 1:15:55 AM KingClark
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* DownerEnding: By the end of the movie, the viewer realizes that, despite being on top of the world, Kane was tremendously unhappy and what he wanted above all else in his life was to be loved. Kane dies alone, as the movie opens, as he remembers the last time in his life when he was truly happy; when he was playing with his beloved sled, Rosebud. Plus the fact that the reporter and the rest of the world never do find out what "Rosebud" is. The only way the viewer finds out is when it's too late; when the sled is being burned, along with some of Kane's other belongings. The real tragedy is that he had the sled as part of his property throughout his whole life. Still, owning it didn't change a thing - the past is the past.
** This also means that Kane died with [[HeartwarmingMoments one cherished secret]] only he knew. The press and the populace could never get their hands on what was closest to his heart. And the snowglobe, which Kane held until he died, had belonged to Susan, who had loved him for himself. He was thinking of her, too.

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* DownerEnding: By the end of the movie, the viewer realizes that, despite being on top of the world, Kane was tremendously unhappy and what he wanted above all else in his life was to be loved. Kane dies alone, as the movie opens, as he remembers the last time in his life when he was truly happy; when he was playing with his beloved sled, Rosebud. Plus the fact that the reporter and the rest of the world never do find out what "Rosebud" is. The only way the viewer finds out is when it's too late; when the sled is being burned, along with some of Kane's other belongings. The real tragedy is that he had the sled as part of his property throughout his whole life. Still, owning it didn't change a thing - the past is the past. \n** This also means that Kane died with [[HeartwarmingMoments one cherished secret]] only he knew. The press and the populace could never get their hands on what was closest to his heart. And the snowglobe, which Kane held until he died, had belonged to Susan, who had loved him for himself. He was thinking of her, too.
11th Apr '18 2:18:10 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** ''Film/CitizenKane'' was in many ways an attack on the narrative style of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood as well as several American types like the SelfMadeMan and UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream. Namely that the idea of defining life in terms of social success and wealth ultimately makes you value people less and makes you desire to control and buy people around you.

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** ''Film/CitizenKane'' ''Citizen Kane'' was in many ways an attack on the narrative style of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood as well as several American types like the SelfMadeMan and UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream. Namely that the idea of defining life in terms of social success and wealth ultimately makes you value people less and makes you desire to control and buy people around you.



** Welles actually tried to get around this by including a line in the film in which a journalist makes a reference to both Kane and Hearst, thus indicating that Hearst actually exists as a separate entity in the ''Film/CitizenKane'' universe. In later interviews, Welles stated that Hearst along with Howard Hughes and other industrialists were certainly influences on Kane, but that Kane was never intended as a parody/critique/insult to Hearst specifically or other industrialists, it was meant as a serious exploration of an American mythical hero, the tycoon and capitalist.

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** Welles actually tried to get around this by including a line in the film in which a journalist makes a reference to both Kane and Hearst, thus indicating that Hearst actually exists as a separate entity in the ''Film/CitizenKane'' ''Citizen Kane'' universe. In later interviews, Welles stated that Hearst along with Howard Hughes and other industrialists were certainly influences on Kane, but that Kane was never intended as a parody/critique/insult to Hearst specifically or other industrialists, it was meant as a serious exploration of an American mythical hero, the tycoon and capitalist.
25th Mar '18 11:49:30 PM snichols1973
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** In the newsreel, a ground level shot features Kane with Adolf Hitler played by Carl Ekberg, a Norwegian-born actor who would portray Hitler in several other movies, in addition to portraying German soldiers among other roles throughout his career.
25th Mar '18 10:51:55 PM snichols1973
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: No further mention is made of Charles Jr. after Emily divorces Charles following his affair with (and subsequent marriage to) Susan.
25th Mar '18 10:45:57 PM snichols1973
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* NightmareFuel: When the butler tells Thompson about the day that Susan left, an eerie, ghostly cockatoo flies squawking past the camera.
25th Mar '18 10:44:34 PM snichols1973
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'''Kane''': Get out! If you want to see me, [[I'llSeeYouInHell have the warden write me a letter!]]\\

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'''Kane''': Get out! If you want to see me, [[I'llSeeYouInHell [[SeeYouInHell have the warden write me a letter!]]\\



* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: A subversion. Orson Welles made this film for a Hollywood Studio and the film was a general satire of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream, yellow journalism, the Hollywood style and narrative, and it states that CapitalismIsBad. This was made at the invitation of the studios themselves but as a result of Hearst's interference on account of "percieved" libel, the film's release was sabotaged, Welles' reputation was smeared and Hollywood learnt its lesson from "The Man."

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* TheManIsStickingItToTheMan: A subversion. Orson Welles made this film for a Hollywood Studio and the film was a general satire of UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream, yellow journalism, the Hollywood style and narrative, and it states that CapitalismIsBad. This was made at the invitation of the studios themselves but as a result of Hearst's interference on account of "percieved" "perceived" libel, the film's release was sabotaged, Welles' reputation was smeared and Hollywood learnt its lesson from "The Man."



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Kane's final attempt at reconciling with Susan almost works out, until he gives her the impression that he is the victim:
-->'''Kane''': Don't go, Susan. You mustn't go. You can't do this to me.\\

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Kane's final attempt at reconciling with Susan almost works out, until he gives her the impression that he is the victim:
WoundedGazelleGambit backfires on him:
-->'''Kane''': Susan. Please don't go. No. Please, Susan. From now on, everything will be exactly the way you want it to be, not the way I think you want it, but — your way. Don't go, Susan. You mustn't go. You can't do this to me.\\



* NightmareFuel: When the butler tells Thompson about the day that Susan left, an eerie, ghostly cockatoo flies squawking past the camera.



* SeeminglyProfoundFool: At the beginning of the movie there is a scene where a CorruptCorporateExecutive reunion claims that Kane is one of the DirtyCommunists. It follows a scene where in a Worker’s rally Kane is declared a [[FascistItaly fascist]], and then we have Kane’s own declaration that he is [[PatrioticFervor an American]]. This shows Kane as a human Rorschach test: Other people project what they most fear onto him, and will insist on their interpretation of his words and deeds with a desperate will no matter how contradictories they are. The three interpretations are wrong, because the DirtyCommunists, [[FascistItaly the fascists]] and even the [[PatrioticFervor patriotic nationalist]] all they believe in something bigger than themselves. The movie shows us that Charlie Foster Kane is only [[ItsAllAboutMe for Charlie Foster Kane]].

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* SeeminglyProfoundFool: At the beginning of the movie there is a scene where a CorruptCorporateExecutive reunion claims that Kane is one of the DirtyCommunists. It follows a scene where in a Worker’s rally Kane is declared a [[FascistItaly fascist]], and then we have Kane’s own declaration that he is [[PatrioticFervor an American]]. This shows Kane as a human Rorschach test: Other people project what they most fear onto him, and will insist on their interpretation of his words and deeds with a desperate will no matter how contradictories contradictory they are. The three interpretations are wrong, because the DirtyCommunists, [[FascistItaly the fascists]] and even the [[PatrioticFervor patriotic nationalist]] all they believe in something bigger than themselves. The movie shows us that Charlie Foster Kane is only [[ItsAllAboutMe for Charlie Foster Kane]].
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