History Film / CitizenKane

24th Sep '17 2:57:51 PM nombretomado
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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:

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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's Music/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:
20th Sep '17 9:25:31 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* RedScare: Thatcher accused Kane of being a communist near the beginning of the movie. A politician addressing a crowd of workers however accuses Kane of being ''fascist'', and we see Kane hanging out with Hitler and Mussolini while stating "there's be no war". Essentially Kane is a demagogue who uses politics to her advantage and ego.

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* RedScare: Thatcher accused Kane of being a communist near the beginning of the movie. A politician addressing a crowd of workers however accuses Kane of being ''fascist'', and we see Kane hanging out with Hitler and Mussolini while stating "there's "there will be no war". Essentially Kane is a demagogue who uses politics to her his advantage and ego.
19th Sep '17 5:05:48 PM MammothBunch
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4th Sep '17 11:43:29 AM GrammarNavi
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* CapitalismIsBad: The film is often seen as an attack on TheAmericanDream, featuring a highly unsympathetic, though not one-dimensional or caricatured, portrayal of the American tycoon. It apparently struck a nerve with William Randolph Hearst, one of its inspirations, who managed to upset its distribution and make it a box-office flop.

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* CapitalismIsBad: The film is often seen as an attack on TheAmericanDream, UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream, featuring a highly unsympathetic, though not one-dimensional or caricatured, portrayal of the American tycoon. It apparently struck a nerve with William Randolph Hearst, one of its inspirations, who managed to upset its distribution and make it a box-office flop.
1st Aug '17 3:14:51 AM CaptEquinox
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--> '''[[http://www.wellesnet.com/bernard-herrmann-on-working-with-orson-welles-and-citizen-kane/ Bernard Herrmann]]''': Pauline Kael has written in The Citizen Kane Book (1971), that the production wanted to use Massenet's "Thais" but could not afford the fee. But Miss Kael never wrote or approached me to ask about the music. We could easily have afforded the fee. The point is that its lovely little strings would not have served the emotional purpose of the film. I wrote the piece in a very high tessitura, so that a girl with a modest voice would be completely hopeless in it.
** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer.[[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).

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--> '''[[http://www.wellesnet.com/bernard-herrmann-on-working-with-orson-welles-and-citizen-kane/ Bernard Herrmann]]''': Pauline Kael has written in The Citizen Kane Book (1971), that the production wanted to use Massenet's "Thais" but could not afford the fee. But Miss Kael never wrote or approached me to ask about the music. We could easily have afforded the fee. The point is that its lovely little strings would not have served the emotional purpose of the film. I wrote the piece in a very high tessitura, so that a girl with a modest voice would be completely hopeless in it. \n** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written [[note]]There are several real ''Salaambô'' operas; more in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer.[[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).Trivia.[[/note]]
1st Aug '17 3:13:04 AM CaptEquinox
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** There actually is an operatic version of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.

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** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. [[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).
1st Aug '17 3:05:07 AM CaptEquinox
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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera ''Thaïs'' but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:

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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera ''Thaïs'' opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:


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** There actually is an operatic version of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.
3rd Jul '17 3:48:20 PM DustSnitch
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--->'''Emily:''' Your Mr. Bernstein sent junior the most incredible atrocity yesterday, Charles. I simply can't have it in the nursery.

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--->'''Emily:''' -->'''Emily:''' Your Mr. Bernstein sent junior the most incredible atrocity yesterday, Charles. I simply can't have it in the nursery.
28th Jun '17 1:30:35 PM DustSnitch
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* {{Biopic}}: It's a biopic of an entirely fictional character (albeit one inspired by real-life figures) but ''Citizen Kane'' more or less invented and codified many of the tropes of the Biopic genre and actively inspired many later works on real-life figures.
** This has to do with the fact that the film's narrative actively tries to dramatize, as the newsreel colleague says, "70 years in a man's life". A major problem with any film biography is telescoping the key incidents and shaping a proper dramatic arc to a life. Kane's approach, using the CharacterDeath as an ExcusePlot inspired later films, such as ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'' and others, which managed to avoid the ForegoneConclusion nature of the story while still finding room for dramatic possibilities.
** Welles putting on aging makeup and other aspects to show Kane in different times, paved the way for other actors in later films to portray characters in different stages of life, for instance, Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio in Film/JEdgar. Likewise, the film's focus on Kane's interior struggle and ambitions as a way to make the character somewhat relatable often led to many films using a MacGuffin to tell the story.

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* {{Biopic}}: It's a biopic of an entirely fictional character (albeit one inspired by real-life figures) but ''Citizen Kane'' more or less invented and codified many of the tropes of the Biopic genre and actively inspired many later works on real-life figures. \n** \\\
This has to do with the fact that the film's narrative actively tries to dramatize, as the newsreel colleague says, "70 years in a man's life". A major problem with any film biography is telescoping the key incidents and shaping a proper dramatic arc to a life. Kane's approach, using the CharacterDeath as an ExcusePlot inspired later films, such as ''Film/LawrenceOfArabia'' and others, which managed to avoid the ForegoneConclusion nature of the story while still finding room for dramatic possibilities. \n** \\\
Welles putting on aging makeup and other aspects to show Kane in different times, paved the way for other actors in later films to portray characters in different stages of life, for instance, Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio in Film/JEdgar. Likewise, the film's focus on Kane's interior struggle and ambitions as a way to make the character somewhat relatable often led to many films using a MacGuffin to tell the story.
19th Jun '17 9:15:03 PM n0321
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* Classical Antihero: The titular character, albeit one PlayedForDrama.

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* Classical Antihero: ClassicalAntihero: The titular character, albeit one PlayedForDrama.
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