History Film / CitizenKane

12th Jan '18 5:26:04 PM wingedcatgirl
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* PlotHole: Legend has it that someone once asked Welles how anyone could have known Kane's FamousLastWords if he died alone. Welles supposedly paused for a long time and then said, "Don't you ever tell anyone of this." However, Raymond the butler later says he heard the word, implying that the scene was shot from his [[POVCam point of view]].

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* PlotHole: Legend has it that someone once asked Welles how anyone could have known Kane's FamousLastWords if he [[DyingAlone died alone.alone]]. Welles supposedly paused for a long time and then said, "Don't you ever tell anyone of this." However, Raymond the butler later says he heard the word, implying that the scene was shot from his [[POVCam point of view]].
3rd Dec '17 12:40:37 AM nero666
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* AllThereIsToKnowAboutTheCryingGame: It's pretty much guaranteed that the only thing people who've never seen the movie know about it is that ItWasHisSled.
24th Sep '17 2:57:51 PM nombretomado
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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:

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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's Music/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:
20th Sep '17 9:25:31 AM DeisTheAlcano
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* RedScare: Thatcher accused Kane of being a communist near the beginning of the movie. A politician addressing a crowd of workers however accuses Kane of being ''fascist'', and we see Kane hanging out with Hitler and Mussolini while stating "there's be no war". Essentially Kane is a demagogue who uses politics to her advantage and ego.

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* RedScare: Thatcher accused Kane of being a communist near the beginning of the movie. A politician addressing a crowd of workers however accuses Kane of being ''fascist'', and we see Kane hanging out with Hitler and Mussolini while stating "there's "there will be no war". Essentially Kane is a demagogue who uses politics to her his advantage and ego.
19th Sep '17 5:05:48 PM MammothBunch
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4th Sep '17 11:43:29 AM GrammarNavi
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* CapitalismIsBad: The film is often seen as an attack on TheAmericanDream, featuring a highly unsympathetic, though not one-dimensional or caricatured, portrayal of the American tycoon. It apparently struck a nerve with William Randolph Hearst, one of its inspirations, who managed to upset its distribution and make it a box-office flop.

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* CapitalismIsBad: The film is often seen as an attack on TheAmericanDream, UsefulNotes/TheAmericanDream, featuring a highly unsympathetic, though not one-dimensional or caricatured, portrayal of the American tycoon. It apparently struck a nerve with William Randolph Hearst, one of its inspirations, who managed to upset its distribution and make it a box-office flop.
1st Aug '17 3:14:51 AM CaptEquinox
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--> '''[[http://www.wellesnet.com/bernard-herrmann-on-working-with-orson-welles-and-citizen-kane/ Bernard Herrmann]]''': Pauline Kael has written in The Citizen Kane Book (1971), that the production wanted to use Massenet's "Thais" but could not afford the fee. But Miss Kael never wrote or approached me to ask about the music. We could easily have afforded the fee. The point is that its lovely little strings would not have served the emotional purpose of the film. I wrote the piece in a very high tessitura, so that a girl with a modest voice would be completely hopeless in it.
** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer.[[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).

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--> '''[[http://www.wellesnet.com/bernard-herrmann-on-working-with-orson-welles-and-citizen-kane/ Bernard Herrmann]]''': Pauline Kael has written in The Citizen Kane Book (1971), that the production wanted to use Massenet's "Thais" but could not afford the fee. But Miss Kael never wrote or approached me to ask about the music. We could easily have afforded the fee. The point is that its lovely little strings would not have served the emotional purpose of the film. I wrote the piece in a very high tessitura, so that a girl with a modest voice would be completely hopeless in it. \n** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written [[note]]There are several real ''Salaambô'' operas; more in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer.[[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).Trivia.[[/note]]
1st Aug '17 3:13:04 AM CaptEquinox
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** There actually is an operatic version of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.

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** There actually is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBjCUYrdSxo an operatic version version]] of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. [[note]]Josef Hauer and Philippe Fenelon also wrote operatic versions of ''Salammbô''. Rachmaninoff and Mussorgsky had a go at it, too.[[/note]] Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.other reasons; possibly because the title role is sung by a mezzo-soprano (deeper register).
1st Aug '17 3:05:07 AM CaptEquinox
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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera ''Thaïs'' but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:

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* MusicalPastiche: ''Salammbô'', the [[ShowWithinAShow opera in which Susan Alexander stars]], is Creator/BernardHerrmann's pastiche of French [[{{Opera}} grand opéra]] à la Jules Massenet. Pauline Kael suggested that it was originally supposed to be a real Massenet opera ''Thaïs'' opera, ''Thaïs''; but Herrmann angrily refuted it when Kael said it was a compromise because they couldn't get the rights:


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** There actually is an operatic version of Flaubert's ''Salammbô''. Written in 1900, it's by Ernest Reyer. Presumably they either didn't know about it or it wouldn't have worked for one reason or another.
3rd Jul '17 3:48:20 PM DustSnitch
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--->'''Emily:''' Your Mr. Bernstein sent junior the most incredible atrocity yesterday, Charles. I simply can't have it in the nursery.

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--->'''Emily:''' -->'''Emily:''' Your Mr. Bernstein sent junior the most incredible atrocity yesterday, Charles. I simply can't have it in the nursery.
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