History Film / BlackHawkDown

11th Aug '16 6:20:47 PM NothingProductive
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* AndThisIsFor: In the book, after the bodies of a helicopter crew are mutilated after crashing, a fellow Black Hawk crewman vowed that he would scream one of their names each time he killed a Somali. "The D-boys in back kept looking up at him, wondering what he was doing."
7th Aug '16 9:56:37 AM NothingProductive
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** Played With in the book, however. The book records several soldiers wondering about the wisdom of this policy as the efforts to free a dead pilot threatened to delay departure past sunrise, when the shooting would kick back in to high gear.
7th Aug '16 9:50:04 AM NothingProductive
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** According to the book, Shughart's use of the clumsy but powerful M14 is TruthInTelevision. The other operators would apparently tease him for insisting on it. Later on, while seething about his ammunition (and everything else), SFC Howe would decide that Shughart was the smartest guy in the unit.
23rd Jul '16 10:37:03 AM Kadorhal
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** Hoot, for at least a few scenes, has an M4 carbine (or at least a rubber prop version of one). It wouldn't have even been designed until the year after the film's events. Hard to notice, however, as the actual firing props are period-accurate Colt Model 727s and 733s (though most of the former are equipped with Aimpoint M68s, which weren't standardized until two years later).

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** Hoot, for at least a few scenes, has an M4 carbine (or at least a rubber prop version of one). It The real thing wouldn't have even been designed finalized and adopted until the year after the film's events. Hard This one is hard to notice, however, as the actual firing props for scenes where such weapons are actually fired, they're period-accurate Colt Model 727s and 733s (though - though most of the former are equipped with Aimpoint M68s, which weren't standardized until two years later).later.



* AsHimself: The Little Bird pilot who pulls the Delta operator out of the first downed Black Hawk, Keith Jones, did the same exact thing during the real Battle of Mogadishu.
* AwesomePersonnelCarrier: What the Pakistanis use to get the American troops out: big and thickly armored APCs that look like they could take direct hits from tank guns and keep going.

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* AsHimself: The Little Bird pilot who pulls the Delta operator out of the first downed Black Hawk, Hawk is played by Chief Warrant Officer Keith Jones, who did the same exact same thing during the real Battle of Mogadishu.
* AwesomePersonnelCarrier: What the Pakistanis use to get the American troops out: big and thickly armored APCs thick-armored [=APCs=] that look like they could take direct hits from tank guns tanks and keep going.



* BaldOfAwesome: Captain Steele... the movie version, anyway. Opinions vary as to his real-life counterpart. (In the book, Delta SFC Paul Howe had a poor view of the Rangers, but especially of CPT Steele.)

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* BaldOfAwesome: Captain Steele... the movie version, anyway. Opinions vary as to his real-life counterpart. (In counterpart (in the book, Delta SFC Paul Howe had a poor view of the Rangers, but especially of CPT Steele.)Steele).
23rd Jul '16 12:13:25 AM Kadorhal
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->''When I go home ...and people ask me: "Hey, Hoot, why do you do it, man? Why? You some kind of war junkie?" I won't say a goddamn word. They won't understand why we do it. They won't understand it's about the men next to you. And that's it.''

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->''When I go home ...home... and people ask me: "Hey, Hoot, why do you do it, man? Why? You some kind of war junkie?" I won't say a goddamn word. They won't understand why we do it. They won't understand it's about the men next to you. And that's it.''



** Oakley Juliet sunglasses which weren't introduced until 1999.

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** Oakley Juliet sunglasses sunglasses, which weren't introduced until 1999.



** Hoot, for at least a few scenes, has an M4 carbine. It wouldn't have even been designed until the year after the film's events. Hard to notice, however, as other such carbines in the Army's hands are period-accurate Colt Commandos.

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** Hoot, for at least a few scenes, has an M4 carbine.carbine (or at least a rubber prop version of one). It wouldn't have even been designed until the year after the film's events. Hard to notice, however, as other such carbines in the Army's hands actual firing props are period-accurate Colt Commandos.Model 727s and 733s (though most of the former are equipped with Aimpoint M68s, which weren't standardized until two years later).



* AsHimself: The Little Bird pilot who pulls the Delta operator out of the first downed Black Hawk did the same exact thing during the real Battle of Mogadishu.

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* AsHimself: The Little Bird pilot who pulls the Delta operator out of the first downed Black Hawk Hawk, Keith Jones, did the same exact thing during the real Battle of Mogadishu.



** Special mention goes to Hoot and [=McKnight=] who both seem to have come down from Valhalla itself to take part in in this battle.

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** Special mention goes to Hoot and [=McKnight=] who both seem to have come down from Valhalla itself to take part in in this battle.
14th Jun '16 7:35:47 PM bombadil211
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* AsHimself: The Little Bird pilot who pulls the Delta operator out of the first downed Black Hawk did the same exact thing during the real Battle of Mogadishu.
3rd Jun '16 7:41:08 PM PanzerGeneral
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* AwesomePersonnelCarrier: What the Pakistan use to get the American troops out: big and thickly armored APCs that look like they could take direct hits from tank guns and keep going.

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* AwesomePersonnelCarrier: What the Pakistan Pakistanis use to get the American troops out: big and thickly armored APCs that look like they could take direct hits from tank guns and keep going.
23rd May '16 9:33:24 AM AFP
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* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Justified because they're a Delta squad. Later subverted when the two Delta marksmen are finally overrun.

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* ConservationOfNinjutsu: Justified because they're a Delta squad. Later subverted when the two Delta marksmen are finally overrun. Overall demonstrated with the casualty count of the battle in RealLife: The Americans took relatively light casualties compared to the Somali militias, largely because they had better training and air support. By the end of the fighting, the UN forces had lost 19 men (18 Americans, one Malaysian), while the Somalis suffered somewhere in the range of 200-500 militia and civilians killed.



* MeaningfulName: Eversmann, TheEveryman. Suprisingly shallow in any character building details, never been in a firefight, somewhat more thoughtful about culture and the war in Somalia than his fellow Rangers. His main role in the movie is to give the audience someone they can relate to who [[OneDegreeOfSeparation interacts with most of the film's other characters.]]

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* MeaningfulName: Eversmann, TheEveryman. Suprisingly Surprisingly shallow in any character building details, never been in a firefight, somewhat more thoughtful about culture and the war in Somalia than his fellow Rangers. His main role in the movie is to give the audience someone they can relate to who [[OneDegreeOfSeparation interacts with most of the film's other characters.]]]] Similarly, the commander back at the headquarters is named Garrison. Of course, both people were RealLife participants in the battle.
19th May '16 11:41:46 PM Nylsa
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* FollowTheLeader: Meta-example: a few films, but many, many notable video games pay homage to this, including ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4'', ''VideoGame/ModernWarfare'', and ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'' amongst others.
15th May '16 12:39:46 PM YT45
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** Having high flying oversight from Orion P-3C spy planes: awesome. Having ''no'' radio communication with those planes: bad. The delay caused by getting the directions from the planes, to the Joint Operations Center, to the C-2 officers in the helicopter was more than a minute, and ended up resulting in the ''wrong directions'' (they were trying to direct the convoy to the wrong crash site).
* {{Badass}}: [[WorldOfBadass Every single named character]] gets at least one moment, either big or small (eg. Not allowed in a warzone with a cast? Take your knife out and get ready to cut it off so your [=CO=] gives you permission to go anyway.)

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** Having high flying oversight from P-3C Orion P-3C spy planes: awesome. Having ''no'' radio communication with those planes: bad. The delay caused by getting the directions from the planes, to the Joint Operations Center, to the C-2 officers in the helicopter was more than a minute, and ended up resulting in the ''wrong directions'' (they were trying to direct the convoy to the wrong crash site).
* {{Badass}}: [[WorldOfBadass Every single named character]] gets at least one moment, either big or small (eg. Not allowed in a warzone with a cast? Take your knife out and get ready to cut it off so your [=CO=] sergeant gives you permission to go anyway.)



* BadassBoast: Subverted/Mocked. Just about every character that makes one gets screwed by it. The Rangers in the hangar (preparing for takeoff) tell Grimes to leave his night vision goggles and canteens behind since they're not going to be gone long enough to need them; the strike force is so tough that no possibility of mission failure enters their minds. (Granted that the mission as planned was supposed to take only 30 minutes, but military planning is supposed to be about preparing for the worst-case scenario.) They also tell him to leave the rear steel plate out of his Kevlar vest; he will only need it if he is running away from the enemy. The Rangers spend much of the movie surrounded and taking fire from all sides. The very worst Badass Boast comes from Private Blackburn, who tells Grimes, "I'm here to kick some ass." This is completely subverted as he [[spoiler:misses the fast-rope after an RPG forces the Blackhawk to juke, falls from the helicopter, breaks his back, and is evacuated on a Hum-Vee without firing a single shot in battle]].

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* BadassBoast: Subverted/Mocked. Just about every character that makes one gets screwed by it. The Rangers in the hangar (preparing for takeoff) tell Grimes to leave his night vision goggles and canteens behind since they're not going to be gone long enough to need them; the strike force is so tough that no possibility of mission failure enters their minds. (Granted that the mission as planned was supposed to take only 30 minutes, but military planning is supposed to be about preparing for the worst-case scenario.) They also tell him to leave the rear steel ballistic plate out of his Kevlar kevlar flak vest; supposedly he will only need it if he is running away from the enemy. The Rangers spend much of the movie surrounded and taking fire from all sides. The very worst Badass Boast comes from Private Blackburn, who tells Grimes, "I'm here to kick some ass." This is completely subverted as he [[spoiler:misses the fast-rope after an RPG forces the Blackhawk to juke, falls from the helicopter, breaks his back, and is evacuated on a Hum-Vee without firing a single shot in battle]].



* BasedOnATrueStory: Several notable things were changed for the movie, most concerning Eversmann. In real life he jumped on the convoy as it was pulling out the first time, and when it eventually returned to base, so did he. He did not participate in most of the combat depicted in the film, and his lieutenant, [=DiTomasso=], was more important at the first crash site. Also, PFC Grimes is a fictional composite. The real PFC Stebbins on whom "Grimes" is based was later convicted of a distasteful crime. The Pentagon requested that Stebbins not be mentioned in the film.

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* BasedOnATrueStory: Several notable things were changed for the movie, most concerning Eversmann. In real life he jumped on the convoy as it was pulling out the first time, and when it eventually returned to base, so did he. Upon arrival, he [[OhCrap found the airport almost completely undefended]][[note]]Luckily the Somalis never noticed. If they had, they would've quickly overrun the base and the Rangers would've been thoroughly screwed[[/note]] and immediately went to work correcting that. He did not participate in most of the combat depicted in the film, and his lieutenant, [=DiTomasso=], was more important at the first crash site. Also, PFC Grimes is a fictional composite. The real PFC Stebbins on whom "Grimes" is based was later convicted of a distasteful crime.crime and is rightfully considered a disgrace by the Army in general and the 75th Rangers in particular. The Pentagon requested that Stebbins not be mentioned in the film. However, his actions during the battle were too important to omit, so the fictional character of Grimes was created to replace him.
** Both the studio and the Army were accused of either glorifying a sexual predator or whitewashing his crimes due to the Stebbins/Grimes issue. Sometimes you just can't win.
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