History Film / Batman

9th Jun '16 3:52:03 PM Odacon_Spy
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** The cartoon of the Joker's face on his helicopters looks like the classic comic book [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]].

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** The cartoon of the Joker's face on his helicopters [[{{Mook}} Mooks]]' jackets and his helicopter looks like the classic comic book [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]].
25th May '16 2:21:56 PM marston
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*** TheDragon: Vinnie Ricorso [[WrongGenreSavvy (or so he'd like to believe)]]
*** TheBrute: Jack Napier
*** EvilGenius: Grissom's accountant [[AllThereInTheScript (named Luce in the script)]]

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*** TheDragon: Vinnie Ricorso [[WrongGenreSavvy (or so he'd like to believe)]]
CoDragons: Jack Napier and Eckhardt
*** TheBrute: Jack Napier
Bob
*** EvilGenius: Grissom's accountant [[AllThereInTheScript (named Luce in the script)]]script)]] and Vinnie Ricorso [[WrongGenreSavvy {or so he'd like to believe} ]]



*** SixthRangerTraitor: Eckhardt
23rd May '16 6:23:16 PM Anddrix
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Bruce Wayne (Creator/MichaelKeaton) has been fighting crime in Gotham as Batman for some time when this film starts, but is an enigma to a city unsure of what he is. The plot here chronicles his battles with Jack Napier / SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker (Creator/JackNicholson). In terms of popularity, this film is the best regarded of this film series.

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Bruce Wayne (Creator/MichaelKeaton) has been fighting crime in Gotham as Batman for some time when this film starts, but is an enigma to a city unsure of what he is. The plot here chronicles his battles with Jack Napier / SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker (Creator/JackNicholson). In terms of popularity, this film is the best regarded of this film series.



* AdaptationOriginConnection: It turns out that SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is, in fact, the man who killed Bruce Wayne's parents rather than Joe Chill.

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* AdaptationOriginConnection: It turns out that SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is, in fact, the man who killed Bruce Wayne's parents rather than Joe Chill.



* TheDogBitesBack: The very first thing Jack Napier does after becoming SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker was kill Grissom as revenge for setting him up to be killed due to his sleeping with Grissom's girlfriend.

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* TheDogBitesBack: The very first thing Jack Napier does after becoming SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker was kill Grissom as revenge for setting him up to be killed due to his sleeping with Grissom's girlfriend.



* FlatScare: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker pulls this on Vicki Vale. [[TheDreaded Understandably,]] Vicki screams.

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* FlatScare: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker pulls this on Vicki Vale. [[TheDreaded Understandably,]] Vicki screams.



** A subtler one comes from Vicki having to climb the "many" stairs of Wayne Mansion, having to remove her heels. Same thing happens in the church with SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.

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** A subtler one comes from Vicki having to climb the "many" stairs of Wayne Mansion, having to remove her heels. Same thing happens in the church with SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker.ComicBook/TheJoker.



* LaughingMad: It's ''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'', for Chrissakes!

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* LaughingMad: It's ''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'', ''ComicBook/TheJoker'', for Chrissakes!



* OriginStory: Infamously gave a solid one to ''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'', which caused a good bit of [[BrokenBase Base Breaking]] (since all other sources treat his origin as a total mystery).

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* OriginStory: Infamously gave a solid one to ''SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker'', ''ComicBook/TheJoker'', which caused a good bit of [[BrokenBase Base Breaking]] (since all other sources treat his origin as a total mystery).



* PsychoticSmirk: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, and surprisingly, Batman too. Two examples: when he says, "I'm Batman" to the initial mook, then when Jack Napier comments "Nice outfit".

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* PsychoticSmirk: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, ComicBook/TheJoker, and surprisingly, Batman too. Two examples: when he says, "I'm Batman" to the initial mook, then when Jack Napier comments "Nice outfit".



** The cartoon of the Joker's face on his helicopters looks like the classic comic book [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker Joker]].

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** The cartoon of the Joker's face on his helicopters looks like the classic comic book [[SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker [[ComicBook/TheJoker Joker]].



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Surprisingly the movie fits on the idealistic side, although not quite to the point of ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', but for Batman's actions, he becomes publicly loved and gets the girl, and SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is dead. Although he had to take the cynical route to get there. It is mostly cynical, but it too is a case of EarnYourHappyEnding

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Surprisingly the movie fits on the idealistic side, although not quite to the point of ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', but for Batman's actions, he becomes publicly loved and gets the girl, and SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is dead. Although he had to take the cynical route to get there. It is mostly cynical, but it too is a case of EarnYourHappyEnding



* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Parents]]: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, while he was still Jack Napier, murdered young Bruce Wayne's parents while he was a child, and came very close to murdering Bruce Wayne himself as well that same time. The experience, just like in the comics (minus the Joker's involvement), turned Bruce Wayne into Batman, and during the final confrontation between himself and the Joker, he flat out tells Joker that Joker murdered his parents, meaning they created each other.
* YouWouldntHitAGuyWithGlasses: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker actually [[RefugeInAudacity puts on glasses and says this to Batman]] during their final confrontation. Batman promptly punches the glasses and his face.

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* [[YouKilledMyFather You Killed My Parents]]: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker, ComicBook/TheJoker, while he was still Jack Napier, murdered young Bruce Wayne's parents while he was a child, and came very close to murdering Bruce Wayne himself as well that same time. The experience, just like in the comics (minus the Joker's involvement), turned Bruce Wayne into Batman, and during the final confrontation between himself and the Joker, he flat out tells Joker that Joker murdered his parents, meaning they created each other.
* YouWouldntHitAGuyWithGlasses: SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker actually [[RefugeInAudacity puts on glasses and says this to Batman]] during their final confrontation. Batman promptly punches the glasses and his face.
29th Apr '16 1:41:30 PM dangerdan97
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* BadassMustache: One of Joker's mobsters sports one.

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* BadassMustache: One Lawrence, one of Joker's mobsters mobsters, sports one.


Added DiffLines:

* BaldOfEvil: Lawrence again.
24th Apr '16 2:18:30 PM Kalaong
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* ParodyCommercial: After the Deadline News incident listed above, the Joker hijacks the airwaves with this to reveal himself as responsible for the Smilex deaths, and to cheerily inform Gotham that more people are doomed because they're already unknowingly using the tainted products. ("And hair color so natural only your undertaker knows for sure!") He even spoofs the BrandX trope to prove his point.

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* ParodyCommercial: After the Deadline News incident listed above, the Joker hijacks the airwaves with this to reveal himself as responsible for the Smilex deaths, and to cheerily inform Gotham that more people are doomed because they're already unknowingly using the tainted products. ("And hair color so natural only your undertaker knows for sure!") He even spoofs the BrandX trope to prove his point.point.
-->I know what you're saying: "Where can I get these fine new items?" Well that's the gag. Chances are, you've bought 'em already!
20th Apr '16 1:29:12 PM Mario1995
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* YouHaveFailedMe: After Batman foils the Joker's balloon plan with his Batwing, the Joker kills Bob because Bob didn't tell him that Batman had it (as if he could have possibly known!).
** He probably just shot him out of anger.

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* YouHaveFailedMe: After Batman foils the Joker's balloon plan with his Batwing, the Joker kills Bob because Bob didn't tell him that Batman had it (as if he could have possibly known!).
** He probably
known!), though it's possible he just shot him out of anger.
19th Apr '16 6:38:20 PM Mario1995
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* AssholeVictim: Lieutenant Eckhardt, Carl Grissom, Antoine Rotelli and Vinnie Ricorso.

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* AssholeVictim: Lieutenant Eckhardt, Carl Grissom, Antoine Rotelli and Vinnie Ricorso.Ricorso, all of whom are murdered by the Joker. But the victims are so corrupt and selfish that the Joker's murders of them seem justified.
16th Apr '16 9:04:54 PM AliceMacher
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---> '''Gordan:''' Good lord, if we catch him we'll have Grissom. But why wasn't I told about this? Who's in charge?

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---> '''Gordan:''' '''Gordon:''' Good lord, if we catch him we'll have Grissom. But why wasn't I told about this? Who's in charge?



---> '''Gordan:''' Oh, my God...
*** In the second one it becomes clear the shit's ''really'' hit the fan, as Gordan's seeing Batman in the flesh for the first time, on the scene of an already dangerous situation, and had until now, believed him to be a rumor.
---> '''Gordan''' Oh... My... ''God''!

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---> '''Gordan:''' '''Gordon:''' Oh, my God...
*** In the second one it becomes clear the shit's ''really'' hit the fan, as Gordan's Gordon's seeing Batman in the flesh for the first time, on the scene of an already dangerous situation, and had until now, believed him to be a rumor.
---> '''Gordan''' '''Gordon''' Oh... My... ''God''!



--> '''Joker:''' *confused* Heh? What are you talking about?

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--> '''Joker:''' *confused* Heh? Huh? What are you talking about?
16th Apr '16 7:54:00 PM AliceMacher
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** Finally, there's the climactic (pun sort of intended) scene involving Vicki slutting it up for the Joker on the cathedral roof to [[WeNeedADistraction distract him from Batman sneaking up behind him]]. Right after "I looove purple", she sinks to her knees directly facing the Joker...and the only possible explanation is that she's trying to make him think she's about to pull down his pants and blow him. The look of what can only be called pre-coital ecstasy on the Joker's face all but confirms this.

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** Finally, there's the climactic (pun sort of intended) scene involving Vicki slutting it up for coming on to the Joker on the cathedral roof to [[WeNeedADistraction distract him from Batman sneaking up behind him]]. Right after "I looove purple", she sinks to her knees directly facing the Joker...and the only possible explanation is that she's trying to make him think she's about to pull down his pants and blow him. The look of what can only be called pre-coital ecstasy on the Joker's face all but confirms this.
16th Apr '16 7:33:55 PM AliceMacher
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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Justified, as Vicki is wearing high heels and the situation she was in made ditching them prudent. She also winds up shoeless at the film's climax, and also removes her shoes while on her date with Bruce. The RealLife reason for this was that Kim Basinger is only a little shorter than Michael Keaton. Combined with the fact that her character continually wears high heels throughout the film, Batman would end up looking comically short when standing next to her, hence it was necessary to have her lose the heels in certain scenes. (However, see TheissTitillationTheory for another take on this.)

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* DoesNotLikeShoes: Justified, as Vicki is wearing high heels and the situation she was in made ditching them prudent. She also winds up shoeless at the film's climax, and also removes her shoes while on her date with Bruce. The RealLife reason for this was that Kim Basinger is only a little shorter than Michael Keaton. Combined with the fact that her character continually wears high heels throughout the film, Batman would end up looking comically short when standing next to her, hence it was necessary to have her lose the heels in certain scenes. (However, see TheissTitillationTheory for another take on this.)
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