History Film / AlienVsPredator

5th May '16 11:32:43 PM GoldenSeals
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards. A dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunter's Moon'' joke would have been even more ironic.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that 1904; the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles cycles, and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards. A dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunter's Moon'' joke would have been even more ironic.
4th May '16 6:51:47 PM ErikModi
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* SchrodingersCanon: The films are half this, half FanonDiscontunity, and pretty well into CanonDiscontinuity with the release of Prometheus.
27th Apr '16 9:14:42 AM owlyoudoin
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* DeathBySex: One of the girls in ''Requiem'' dies this way after she strips down to almost nothing in the pool scene.

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* DeathBySex: One of the girls in ''Requiem'' dies this way after she strips down to almost nothing in the pool scene.scene. She does not make it to the end of the movie.



** The homeless men who were staring into the bubbling water, doubly glaring since their dog found pieces of a corpse in the sewers. Even removing the fantasy parts of the movie, there are many lethal creatures who could be in the water, like snakes. They were asking to be dead.

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** The homeless men who were staring into the bubbling water, doubly glaring since their dog found pieces of a corpse in the sewers. Even removing the fantasy parts of the movie, there are many lethal creatures who could be in the water, like snakes. They were asking to be dead.
27th Apr '16 9:03:21 AM owlyoudoin
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* ShoutOut: The sub-plot of a human female displaying enough courage and prowess (namely by killing a couple of Xenos) for a Predator to fight alongside her and blood her as a warrior, with her then killing a Queen alien before the predator dies from his wounds, is all taken from the first Alien vs. Predator comic (and the ''Alien vs Predator: Prey'' novelization), in which exactly this happens between Machiko Noguchi and "Broken Tusk". Unlike Alexa, however, Machiko would go on to live with the Predators and eventually become fully accepted into their ranks (albeit while still facing some bigotry).

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* ShoutOut: The sub-plot of a human female displaying enough courage and prowess (namely by killing a couple of Xenos) Xenomorphs) for a Predator to fight alongside her and blood her as a warrior, with her then killing a Queen alien before the predator dies from his wounds, is all taken from the first Alien vs. Predator comic (and the ''Alien vs Predator: Prey'' novelization), in which exactly this happens between Machiko Noguchi and "Broken Tusk". Unlike Alexa, however, Machiko would go on to live with the Predators and eventually become fully accepted into their ranks (albeit while still facing some bigotry).



** Wolf: [[BadassGrandpa Highly experienced]] Predator with a lot of equally badass weapons. He [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] a lot of xenomorphs without breaking a sweat, and manages to put up an equal fight against the Predalien.

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** Wolf: [[BadassGrandpa Highly A highly experienced]] Predator with a lot of equally badass weapons. He [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] a lot of xenomorphs without breaking a sweat, and manages to put up an equal fight against the Predalien.



* DeathBySex: Probably the reason the girl in ''Requiem'' dies. She strips down to almost nothing in the pool scene.

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* DeathBySex: Probably One of the reason the girl girls in ''Requiem'' dies. She dies this way after she strips down to almost nothing in the pool scene.



* DownerEnding: In a WhatCouldHaveBeen example, during the [[WordOfGod Brothers Strause]] DVDCommentary they mention that they had an idea of the ending where after handing off the Predator weapon to the military, the "rescuers" lifted up their weapons and the screen would cut to black with the sound of the rifles firing full-auto. Ouch.

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* DownerEnding: In a WhatCouldHaveBeen example, during the [[WordOfGod Brothers Strause]] DVDCommentary they mention that they had thought of an idea of the ending where where, after handing off being handed the Predator weapon to the military, weapon, the "rescuers" lifted up their weapons and the screen would cut to black with the sound of the rifles firing full-auto. Ouch.



* InstantSedation: Facehuggers seem to be able to knock someone out within six or seven seconds in this film, people have thought that they use their tails to knock someone out but that would require a precise chokehold (a blood choke specifically) but the speed of the knock out suggests they sedate their host though some unknown means, the best examples are the two homeless men as one is unconscious within seven seconds and the other even less.

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* InstantSedation: Facehuggers seem to be able to knock someone out within six or seven seconds in this film, people film. People have thought speculated that they use their tails to knock someone out out, but that would require a precise chokehold (a blood choke specifically) but the specifically). The speed of the knock out suggests they sedate their host though through some unknown means, means; the best examples are being the two homeless men as one is unconscious within seven seconds and the other even less.men.



* NoOSHACompliance: The power goes out in ''AVP Requiem'', and it seems that not a single building in the town has emergency lighting, and the hospital's emergency generator mostly just makes the fluorescent lights flicker.

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* NoOSHACompliance: The power goes out in ''AVP Requiem'', Requiem'' and it seems that not a single building in the town has emergency lighting, and even the hospital's emergency generator mostly just makes the fluorescent lights flicker.



* TelevisionGeography: Virtually every shot of "Gunnison, Colorado" is wrong. Basically the city is too big and the mountains are too small.

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* TelevisionGeography: Virtually every shot of "Gunnison, Colorado" is wrong. Basically the city is too big and the mountains are too small.(See TheMountainsofIllinois above.)



** The Predators in the ship who carry Scar's body do not scan him for any Xenomorph infestation. Even if that is counted out due to being overlooked since Scar's dead, it does not explain the stupidity of one Predator who opens fire on the Predalien which causes the ship to crash.

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** The Predators in the ship who carry Scar's body do not scan him for any Xenomorph infestation. Even if that is counted out due to being as overlooked since due to Scar's dead, death, it does not explain the stupidity of one Predator who opens opening fire on the Predalien which causes and causing the ship to crash.
27th Apr '16 8:43:39 AM owlyoudoin
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* {{Badass}}: The "Grid" Alien from the first movie: he [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice stealth kills]] a predator as an entry and faces another in one of the franchise's most badass fight scenes. and wins!
** Scar and Lex count as well

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* {{Badass}}: The "Grid" Alien from the first movie: he [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice stealth kills]] a predator as an entry and faces another in one of the franchise's most badass fight scenes. and And wins!
** Scar and Lex count as wellwell.
27th Apr '16 8:42:38 AM owlyoudoin
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards. A dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunters Moon'' joke would have been even more ironic.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards. A dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunters ''Hunter's Moon'' joke would have been even more ironic.
27th Apr '16 8:07:16 AM owlyoudoin
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** The Predalien too: [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority pack leader]], [[CurbStompBattle wipes out]] an entire predator ship's crew and is so badass to fight an ancient, high-experienced predator as Wolf and get a final tie!

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** The Predalien too: [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority pack leader]], [[CurbStompBattle wipes out]] an entire predator ship's crew and is so badass to ties in a fight an against the ancient, high-experienced predator as Wolf and get a final tie!Wolf.



* BigBad: The Predalien takes center stage throughout the movie as the biggest and scariest alien around. It immediately destroys the Predator ship, creates a Xenomorph army to invade the rest of Earth, harvests a whole town, and causes the Wolf Predator to come down to kill it in response.

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* BigBad: The Predalien takes center stage throughout the movie as the biggest and scariest alien around. It immediately destroys the Predator ship, creates a Xenomorph army to invade the rest of Earth, harvests a whole town, and causes town. It forces the Wolf Predator predators to come down to kill send [[CleanUpCrew Wolf]] after it, as the only one who could take it in response.down.



* CleanupCrew: Throughout the film, Wolf has been killing as many witnesses as he has Xenomorphs...that makes it clear as to what his purpose is in the movie.

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* CleanupCrew: Throughout the film, Wolf has been killing as many witnesses as he has Xenomorphs...that makes Xenomorphs, making it clear as to what his purpose is in the movie.
27th Apr '16 7:54:03 AM owlyoudoin
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** Wolf Predator from the second movie: [[BadassGrandpa Highly experienced]], with a lot of so badass weapons to hunt, and yeah, he [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] a lot of xenos without taking a sweat, and makes a very badass fight with the Predalien where all other predators were cannon fodder!
** The Predalien too: [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority pack leader]], [[CurbStompBattle Curb stomps]] an entire predator ship's crew and is so badass to fight an ancient, high-experienced predator as Wolf and get a final tie!

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** Wolf Predator from the second movie: Wolf: [[BadassGrandpa Highly experienced]], experienced]] Predator with a lot of so equally badass weapons to hunt, and yeah, he weapons. He [[CurbStompBattle curb stomped]] a lot of xenos xenomorphs without taking breaking a sweat, and makes a very badass manages to put up an equal fight with against the Predalien where all other predators were cannon fodder!
Predalien.
** The Predalien too: [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority pack leader]], [[CurbStompBattle Curb stomps]] wipes out]] an entire predator ship's crew and is so badass to fight an ancient, high-experienced predator as Wolf and get a final tie!
27th Apr '16 7:47:58 AM owlyoudoin
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* DontYouDarePityMe: Charles Bishop Weyland, a wealthy elderly industrialist, who funds the mission to a newly-discovered pyramid under tons of ice. He later reveals to the protagonist that he's dying of lung cancer and wants leave his mark on the world. Later, as the survivors are running from a Predator, Weyland tries to have a YouShallNotPass moment. The Predator scans him, sees his deformed lungs, and just walks right past the old man. The pissed off Weyland attacks the Predator with a makeshift flamethrower. ''Now'', the Predator won't ignore him and goes all stabbity on the guy.
* TheDragon: The "Grid" alien to the Alien Queen. He's by far the most dangerous of the Xenomorphs. Where the rest are killed off by the dozens by a single Predator, Grid kills ''two'' of them by himself and manages to evade Scar's Plasma Caster shots when they're aimed right at him while the rest of the drones simply get mowed down. He's also the one who leads his siblings in freeing the Queen. The novelization even refers to him as "the Alpha-alien", implying he's higher ranked than the other drones.

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* DontYouDarePityMe: Charles Bishop Weyland, a wealthy elderly industrialist, who funds the mission to a newly-discovered pyramid under tons of ice. He later reveals to the protagonist that he's dying of lung cancer and wants leave his mark on the world. Later, as the survivors are running from a Predator, Weyland tries to have a YouShallNotPass moment. The Predator scans him, sees his deformed lungs, and just walks right past the old man. The pissed off Weyland attacks the Predator with a makeshift flamethrower. ''Now'', the Predator won't ignore him and goes all stabbity on the guy.
takes him out.
* TheDragon: The "Grid" alien to the Alien Queen. He's She's by far the most dangerous of the Xenomorphs. Where the rest are killed off by the dozens by a single Predator, Grid kills ''two'' of them by himself and herself. She even manages to evade Scar's Plasma Caster shots when they're aimed right at him while her, when the rest of the drones were simply get mowed down. He's She's also the one who leads his her siblings in freeing the Queen. The novelization even refers to him her as "the Alpha-alien", implying he's she's higher ranked than the other drones.



* InfraredXRayCamera: This is how they find the pyramid in the first film. Also, the Predators can see their plasma casters through people's bags in infrared.

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* InfraredXRayCamera: This is how they find WY finds the pyramid in the first film. Also, the Predators can see their plasma casters through people's bags in infrared.



* SpaceIsNoisy: Averted surprisingly in the first movie, its completely silent in space apart from the soundtrack. The only noise heard comes from the inside of the Predator ship, where the camera is.
* StatOVision: A predator decides not to kill [[spoiler:[[NotWorthKilling Weyland because it can sense that he's already dying of cancer.]] [[HeroicSacrifice Then Weyland improvises a flamethrower to buy the others more time...]]]]

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* SpaceIsNoisy: Averted surprisingly Surprisingly averted in the first movie, its movie. The opening shot in space is completely silent in space apart from the soundtrack. The only noise heard comes from the scenes inside of the Predator ship, where the camera is.
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* StatOVision: A predator decides not to kill [[spoiler:[[NotWorthKilling Weyland because it can sense see that he's already dying of cancer.]] [[HeroicSacrifice Then Weyland improvises a flamethrower to buy the others more time...]]]]



** All of the Predators really. They were there not hunt Xenomorphs, not humans. Yet they stop to kill the drill-team on the surface (even going so far as stringing them up for skinning) even though they should realize that time is of the essence with curious humans poking around the temple. Had they not taken this senseless detour in their priorities, they could have gotten to the plasma casters before they were taken by the expedition; and the hunt would have likely gone very differently.

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** All of the Predators really. They were there not to hunt Xenomorphs, not humans. Yet they stop to kill the drill-team on the surface (even going so far as stringing them up for skinning) even though they should realize that time is of the essence with curious humans poking around the temple. Had they not taken this senseless detour in their priorities, they could have gotten to the plasma casters before they were taken by the expedition; and the hunt would have likely gone very differently.
27th Apr '16 7:15:31 AM owlyoudoin
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** The statement "I've never seen a gun help anyone out on the ice" would probably be an indicator of someone being too dumb to live if the movie wasn't conspiring to prove the utterer of it right (because no ''human'' gun winds up being of any use, and the Predators focus mostly on melee weapons in this film).

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** The statement "I've never seen a gun help anyone out on the ice" would probably be an indicator of someone being too dumb to live if the movie wasn't conspiring to prove the utterer of it speaker right (because no ''human'' gun winds up being of any use, and the Predators focus mostly on melee weapons in this film).series).



* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders, used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards, meaning that a dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunters Moon'' joke would have been even more as as ironic.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Why the Pyramid in the first movie operates on 100 year cycles according to their ''archaeologist''. None of the cultures that are supposedly the influenced by the builders, builders used anything close to that in their counting systems at the time-period given. In fact, given the high Mayan influence, it'd been more accurate to say the Whaling station was lost in 1900 instead of 1904, due to the fact that the Mayans ''did'' use 52 lunar cycles and that 2004 is exactly 2 cycles afterwards, meaning that a afterwards. A dead 1952 crew by the pyramid would have made sense. Not to mention that the ''Hunters Moon'' joke would have been even more as as ironic.
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