History Fanon / HarryPotter

6th Sep '17 11:18:41 PM GlassCatOwl
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** Of course, neither Rowena nor Helga are names native to their birthplaces either ('Rowena' is Welsh and 'Helga' is Norse) so maybe it was popular for wizards and witches to give their children fancy foreign names. It's just that imagining Slytherin with an [[{{Oireland}} Oirish accent]] makes him a lot less intimidating.
21st Aug '17 8:25:38 PM Theatre_Maven_3695
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*** Also, given what [[Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem was recently revealed]] to occur if a young child's magic is suppressed, it would be an [[TooDumbToLive extremly unwise]] and [[ForTheEvulz exceedingly cruel]] course of action to take.

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*** Also, given what [[Film/FantasticBeastsAndWhereToFindThem was recently eventually revealed]] to occur if a young child's magic is suppressed, it would be an [[TooDumbToLive extremly unwise]] and [[ForTheEvulz exceedingly cruel]] course of action to take.



* Recently, it common among some fans to believe that Salazar Slytherin hailed from Ireland, since WordOfGod establishes that Godric Gryffindor was English, Helga Hufflepuff was Welsh, and Rowena Ravenclaw was Scottish. It helps that House Slytherin's heraldic color is green (a color popularly associated with Ireland), and that Salazar Slytherin was supposedly a parseltongue who could communicate with snakes (inviting comparisons to the old legend about Saint Patrick banishing all snakes from Ireland). The problem is that Slytherin's first name Salazar derives from the dictator of Portugal, that during the timeframe when Hogwarts was being made up, the colours of Ireland were likely to be sky-blue (as an English author with a liberal arts background like Rowling ''would'' know) and the idea of Saint Patrick banishing the snakes does not equal to control and use of snakes which is part of Slytherin's mystique.

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* Recently, it It's common among some fans to believe that Salazar Slytherin hailed from Ireland, since WordOfGod establishes that Godric Gryffindor was English, Helga Hufflepuff was Welsh, and Rowena Ravenclaw was Scottish. It helps that House Slytherin's heraldic color is green (a color popularly associated with Ireland), and that Salazar Slytherin was supposedly a parseltongue who could communicate with snakes (inviting comparisons to the old legend about Saint Patrick banishing all snakes from Ireland). The problem is that Slytherin's first name Salazar derives from the dictator of Portugal, that during the timeframe when Hogwarts was being made up, the colours of Ireland were likely to be sky-blue (as an English author with a liberal arts background like Rowling ''would'' know) and the idea of Saint Patrick banishing the snakes does not equal to control and use of snakes which is part of Slytherin's mystique.
6th Aug '17 5:43:07 PM JulianLapostat
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* The Potters and Longbottoms were never shown to be friends, aside from Harry and Neville, but fanfiction often depicts them as ancient allies and Alice as Harry's godmother and close friend of Lily's. It's quite plausible, particularly since Frank and Alice were also Order members, but there's no canon proof.

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* The Potters and Longbottoms were never shown to be friends, aside from Harry and Neville, but fanfiction often depicts them as ancient allies and Alice as Harry's godmother and close friend of Lily's. It's quite plausible, particularly since Frank and Alice were also Order members, but there's no canon proof. The only indication of close friendships that the couple could have had is Lily mentioning in a letter to Sirius that she cried all night when she heard that Marlene [=McKinnon=] and her family died.



* It has become almost assumed that Harry is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor, usually based on the fact that he is a "true Gryffindor" who can pull Gryffindor's sword from the hat when needed, despite the canon explanation being that any Gryffindor who has a great enough need for it can pull sword from the hat (as shown when Neville Longbottom did it while confronting Voldemort).

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* It has become almost assumed that Harry is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor, usually based on the fact that he is a "true Gryffindor" who can pull Gryffindor's sword from the hat when needed, despite the canon explanation being that any Gryffindor who has a great enough need for it can pull sword from the hat (as shown when Neville Longbottom Longbottom, and Ron Weasley, did it while confronting Voldemort).Voldemort and his Horcrux). The idea of Gryffindor's legacy passing to his heir would also negate Gryffindor's populist ethos which is as much part of it as Slytherin's aristocratic fetish.



* It's pretty commonly believed that Salazar Slytherin hailed from Ireland, since WordOfGod establishes that Godric Gryffindor was English, Helga Hufflepuff was Welsh, and Rowena Ravenclaw was Scottish. It helps that House Slytherin's heraldic color is green (a color popularly associated with Ireland), and that Salazar Slytherin was supposedly a parseltongue who could communicate with snakes (inviting comparisons to the old legend about Saint Patrick banishing all snakes from Ireland).

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* It's pretty commonly believed Recently, it common among some fans to believe that Salazar Slytherin hailed from Ireland, since WordOfGod establishes that Godric Gryffindor was English, Helga Hufflepuff was Welsh, and Rowena Ravenclaw was Scottish. It helps that House Slytherin's heraldic color is green (a color popularly associated with Ireland), and that Salazar Slytherin was supposedly a parseltongue who could communicate with snakes (inviting comparisons to the old legend about Saint Patrick banishing all snakes from Ireland).
Ireland). The problem is that Slytherin's first name Salazar derives from the dictator of Portugal, that during the timeframe when Hogwarts was being made up, the colours of Ireland were likely to be sky-blue (as an English author with a liberal arts background like Rowling ''would'' know) and the idea of Saint Patrick banishing the snakes does not equal to control and use of snakes which is part of Slytherin's mystique.
5th Aug '17 12:04:13 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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* It's pretty commonly believed that Salazar Slytherin hailed from Ireland, since WordOfGod establishes that Godric Gryffindor was English, Helga Hufflepuff was Welsh, and Rowena Ravenclaw was Scottish. It helps that House Slytherin's heraldic color is green (a color popularly associated with Ireland), and that Salazar Slytherin was supposedly a parseltongue who could communicate with snakes (inviting comparisons to the old legend about Saint Patrick banishing all snakes from Ireland).
18th Jul '17 8:32:07 AM SonofAkatosh
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** This theory probably originated from Fleur mentioning that the veela hair in her wand came from her grandmother, but this could just be a coincidence on par with Fawkes providing the feathers in Harry and Voldemort's wands.
15th Jul '17 7:19:52 PM SonofAkatosh
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* The notion that Professor [=McGonagall=] went to school with Tom Riddle and was an Auror during the War against Grindelwald crops up frequently. This is probably because of her actress, Maggie Smith, being far older than [=McGonagall=] was intended to be, despite there being only a year between the two since the films were made a decade after the books' time frame. According to Pottermore, [=McGonagall=] was born nine years after Tom Riddle in 1935, and therefore only started Hogwarts in 1947, two years after Grindelwald's defeat.

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* The notion that Professor [=McGonagall=] went to school with Tom Riddle and was an Auror during the War against Grindelwald crops up frequently. This is probably because of her actress, Maggie Smith, being far older than [=McGonagall=] was intended to be, despite there being only a year between the two two, since the films were made a decade after the books' time frame. According to Pottermore, [=McGonagall=] was born nine years after Tom Riddle in 1935, and therefore only started Hogwarts in 1947, two years after Grindelwald's defeat.
15th Jul '17 7:16:24 PM SonofAkatosh
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* The notion that Professor [=McGonagall=] went to school with Tom Riddle and was an Auror during the War against Grindelwald crops up frequently. This is probably because of her actress, Maggie Smith, being far older than [=McGonagall=] was intended to be, ironically they're only a year apart, but of course the films were made a decade after the books' time frame. According to Pottermore, [=McGonagall=] was born nine years after Tom Riddle in 1935, and therefore only started Hogwarts in 1947, two years after Grindelwald's defeat.

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* The notion that Professor [=McGonagall=] went to school with Tom Riddle and was an Auror during the War against Grindelwald crops up frequently. This is probably because of her actress, Maggie Smith, being far older than [=McGonagall=] was intended to be, ironically they're despite there being only a year apart, but of course between the two since the films were made a decade after the books' time frame. According to Pottermore, [=McGonagall=] was born nine years after Tom Riddle in 1935, and therefore only started Hogwarts in 1947, two years after Grindelwald's defeat.
11th Jul '17 7:36:59 AM MasterFuzzy
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** Some of it probably stems from the seventh book showing Dumbledore agreeing with Grindlewald in a letter that working for the Greater Good is the best way to go. That aside, acting like he still wants to control the wizarding world ignores the fact that Dumbledore explicitly states that after his sister died, he decided that it was far too dangerous for him to be trusted with power and avoided it (hence his refusal to be Minister of Magic).

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** Some of it probably stems from the seventh book showing Dumbledore agreeing with Grindlewald in a letter that working for the Greater Good is the best way to go. That aside, acting like he still wants to control the wizarding world ignores the fact that Dumbledore explicitly states that after his sister died, he decided that it was far too dangerous for him to be trusted with power and avoided it (hence his refusal several times over to be Minister of Magic).



* Harry, Ron and Hermione are almost always collectively known as either "The Golden Trio" or "The Gryffindor Trio." Neither name ever appears in the books.
** In next-gen fanfics, Albus Potter, Rose Weasley and Scorpius Malfoy usually form "The Silver Trio," as fanfic authors seem to take it for granted that the three would form a trio much like Harry, Ron and Hermione did, and that Rose and Scorpius would end up dating.

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* Harry, Ron and Hermione are almost always collectively known as either "The Golden Trio" or "The Gryffindor Trio." Neither name ever appears in the books.
books (and the latter makes little to no sense anyway).
** In next-gen fanfics, Albus Potter, Rose Weasley and Scorpius Malfoy usually form "The Silver Trio," (a term also sometimes used for Ginny, Neville, and Luna) as fanfic authors seem to take it for granted that the three would form a trio much like Harry, Ron and Hermione did, and that Rose and Scorpius would end up dating.



* Voldemort being unable to love due to being conceived under the affects of a love potion. Many take WordOfGod on the subject and miss the fact that it was merely symbolic.

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* Voldemort being unable to love due to being conceived under the affects effects of a love potion. Many take WordOfGod on the subject and miss the fact that it was merely symbolic.



** In the books, there are no politico-cultural factions called "Light" or "Dark", nor is magic ever defined in [[Franchise/StarWars Force-esque]] divisions of the same.

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** In the books, there are no politico-cultural factions called "Light" or "Dark", nor is magic ever defined in [[Franchise/StarWars Force-esque]] divisions of the same. The most we ever get is a few mentions of "Dark magic."



** Reading with a knowledge of how the UK's government actually works, the books seem to imply that there is no specific wizard legislative body. So logically Parliament is in charge, and the Minister of Magic, if he's a 'Minister', should be a member of Parliament. However, fanon is having no truck with this, because it is completely counter to how the Minister of Magic is shown interacting with the Prime Minister.

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** Reading with a knowledge of how the UK's government actually works, the books seem to imply that there is no specific wizard legislative body. So logically Parliament is in charge, and the Minister of Magic, if he's a 'Minister', should be a member of Parliament. However, fanon is having no truck with this, because it is completely counter to how the Minister of Magic is shown interacting with the Prime Minister. ( [[SarcasmMode Because, of course, it's not like Fudge at all to hype up his own importance and treat Muggles condescendingly]] ).



** In canon, the consequence for breaking an Unbreakable Vow is death, and the one for breaking the Triwizard contract is never specified.

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** In canon, the consequence for breaking an Unbreakable Vow is explicitly stated to be death, and the one for breaking the Triwizard contract (if there even is one) is never specified.
30th May '17 5:37:24 PM nombretomado
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* "I found a page called TVTropes!" [[AccidentalInnuendo ejaculated]] Harry.

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* "I found a page called TVTropes!" Wiki/TVTropes!" [[AccidentalInnuendo ejaculated]] Harry.
28th May '17 5:53:29 AM GlassCatOwl
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* Magical society [[NoWomansLand can be portrayed as discriminating against women more than our society]], with Amelia Bones as the exception who makes/breaks the rule. This is fanon, because there's no explicit depiction of gender discrimination in the books.

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* Magical society [[NoWomansLand can be portrayed as discriminating against women more than our society]], with Amelia Bones as the exception who makes/breaks the rule. This is fanon, because there's no explicit depiction of gender discrimination in the books. books and WordOfGod suggests that the equal magical strength of witches and wizards led to a more prominent culture of gender equality and female independence.



** Also in next-gen fanfics, Rose is very often in Ravenclaw and Albus in Slytherin (based on his conversation with Harry at the end of the book.) The second Lily Potter is sometimes a Slytherin as well. A large number of fanworks portray Rose as looking like a red-haired version of Hermione, even though red hair is a recessive gene.

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** Also in next-gen fanfics, Rose is very often in Ravenclaw and Albus in Slytherin (based on his conversation with Harry at the end of the book.) The second Lily Potter is sometimes a Slytherin as well. A large number of fanworks portray Rose as looking like a red-haired version of Hermione, even though red hair is a recessive gene. Rose is referred to as having her father's hair colour on Pottermore, though (and Hermione could easily carry a recessive redhaired gene on her side, before even getting into the genetic complexities of red hair.)
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