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26th Jan '17 8:44:16 PM keybounce
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%%* BadassNormal: Fiona, and presumably the other copper as well to a lesser degree.

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%%* * BadassNormal: Fiona, and presumably the other copper as well to a lesser degree.
29th Oct '16 6:14:48 PM nombretomado
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* {{Omake}}: A very short one at the end of chapter 25 between this story and the Literature/WheelOfTime, and a moderately short one between chapter 26 and 27 between this story and HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.

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* {{Omake}}: A very short one at the end of chapter 25 between this story and the Literature/WheelOfTime, and a moderately short one between chapter 26 and 27 between this story and HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality.



* RationalFic: Denied by the author. After all, Milo often acts in ways that make [[WrongGenreSavvy *zero* sense in the context of the world he is in]], and refuses to see otherwise. Rather, the writer says that he was inspired by other RationalFic works such as ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality''.

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* RationalFic: Denied by the author. After all, Milo often acts in ways that make [[WrongGenreSavvy *zero* sense in the context of the world he is in]], and refuses to see otherwise. Rather, the writer says that he was inspired by other RationalFic works such as ''HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality''.''Fanfic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality''.
20th Jul '16 1:06:44 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheCuckoolanderWasRight: From the perspective of everyone else in the Harry Potter universe, the vast majority of what Milo says is completely insane. Much of it is also [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy entirely correct]].

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* TheCuckoolanderWasRight: From the perspective of everyone else in the Harry Potter universe, the vast majority of what Milo says is completely insane. Much of it is also [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy entirely correct]].correct.
27th Jun '16 8:36:57 PM storyyeller
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* ArtificialStupidity: [[spoiler:Bellatrix Lestrange]] easily takes over because every D&D Wizard NPC tries to use the exact same strategy against her.
27th Jun '16 8:32:45 PM storyyeller
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* IdiotPlot: Going by how easily Bellatrix takes over, Milo is apparently the only D&D wizard in the world who doesn't just AttackAttackAttack with poorly chosen spells when facing an unexpected threat. It wouldn't even have taken much optimization to beat Bellatrix - there are a number of D&D spells that would have easily defeated her if anyone had prepared them, rule breaking or not, and it is surprising that she was able to mind control everyone so easily when [[ImmuneToMindControl Mind Blank]] is a standard spell in core, not even considering all the more obscure or dubious methods of immunity, such as the one used by Milo himself. Then again, this could be justified by the fact that [[ArtificialStupidity NPC Wizards in real games are usually dumb and unoptimized]], since if they used their powers intelligently, they would have [[GameBreaker already taken over the world 5 levels ago]].
27th Jun '16 8:32:17 PM storyyeller
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* IdiotPlot: Going by how easily Bellatrix takes over, Milo is apparently the only D&D wizard in the world who doesn't just AttackAttackAttack with poorly chosen spells when facing an unexpected threat. It wouldn't even have taken much optimization to beat Bellatrix - there are a number of D&D spells that would have easily defeated her if anyone had prepared them, rule breaking or not, and it is surprising that she was able to mind control everyone so easily when [[ImmuneToMindControl Mind Blank]] is a standard spell in core, not even considering all the more obscure or dubious methods of immunity, such as the one used by Milo himself. Then again, this could be justified by the fact that [[ArtificialStupidity NPC Wizards in real games are usually dumb and unoptimized]], since if they used their powers intelligently, they would have [[GameBreaker already taken over the world 5 levels ago]].
28th Apr '16 11:49:15 AM Eagal
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* BagOfHolding: Milo has a Belt of Holding, which wouldn't be out of place in the Harry Potter universe (though would be highly illegal) even if this weren't a D&D fanfic.

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* BagOfHolding: Milo has a Belt of Holding, which wouldn't be out of place in the Harry Potter universe (though would be highly illegal) even if this weren't a D&D fanfic.Dungeons & Dragons Crossover fic.
28th Apr '16 11:48:47 AM Eagal
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* BadassNormal: Fiona, and presumably the other copper as well to a lesser degree.
* [[BagOfHolding Belt of Holding]]: It ''is'' a Dungeons & Dragons Crossover fic, after all.

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* %%* BadassNormal: Fiona, and presumably the other copper as well to a lesser degree.
* [[BagOfHolding BagOfHolding: Milo has a Belt of Holding]]: It ''is'' Holding, which wouldn't be out of place in the Harry Potter universe (though would be highly illegal) even if this weren't a Dungeons & Dragons Crossover fic, after all.D&D fanfic.



* CelebrityParadox: The Muggles think that Gilderoy Lockhart looks a bit like Kenneth Branagh[[note]]the actor[[/note]].

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* CelebrityParadox: The Muggles think that Gilderoy Lockhart looks a bit like Kenneth Branagh[[note]]the actor[[/note]].Branagh, the actor who played Lockhart in the movies.



* CheapGoldCoins: See the entry for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in general
* ChekhovsGun: Discussed and exploited at length. See TheLawOfConservationOfDetail below.

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* CheapGoldCoins: See the entry for ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' in general
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ChekhovsGun: Discussed and exploited at length. See TheLawOfConservationOfDetail below.



* TheChessmaster: Snape and Lucius Malfoy.
** In the more [[SmartPeoplePlayChess literal]] [[BrilliantButLazy sense]], Ron.

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* TheChessmaster: Snape and Lucius Malfoy.
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** In the more [[SmartPeoplePlayChess literal]] [[BrilliantButLazy sense]], Ron.Ron i svery talented chess played.
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%%** Lucius Malfoy.



* CoolSword / AbsurdlySharpBlade: [[spoiler:The Sword of Gryffindor, as in canon, sharp enough to decapitate the Basilisk in one CleanCut.]]

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* CoolSword / AbsurdlySharpBlade: [[spoiler:The CoolSword: The Sword of Gryffindor, as in canon, [[AbsurdlySharpBlade sharp enough enough]] to decapitate the Basilisk in one CleanCut.]]



** TheCuckoolanderWasRight: From the perspective of everyone else in the Harry Potter universe, the vast majority of what Milo says is completely insane. Much of it is also [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy entirely correct]].

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** * TheCuckoolanderWasRight: From the perspective of everyone else in the Harry Potter universe, the vast majority of what Milo says is completely insane. Much of it is also [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy entirely correct]].



* EvilVsEvil: [[spoiler: Voldemort versus Lucius for control of the the Death Eaters.]]
* ExperiencePoints: The rates and methods of earning XP, as well as the various means of their expenditure, is a recurring plotpoint.
** Indeed, the actions of a previously unknown enemy are deduced through mathematical induction of the number of participants in a battle through the XP there earned.
* {{Familiar}}: Mordenkainen

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* EvilVsEvil: [[spoiler: Voldemort versus Lucius Lucius]] for control of the the Death Eaters.]]
Eaters.
* ExperiencePoints: The rates and methods of earning XP, as well as the various means of their expenditure, is a recurring plotpoint.
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plotpoint. Indeed, the actions of a previously unknown enemy are deduced through mathematical induction of the number of participants in a battle through the XP there earned.
* %%* {{Familiar}}: Mordenkainen



* GameBreaker: Two in-universe examples, in both ways, too.
** Avada Kedavra to the D&D verse. Seriously, an instant-death spell without so much as a check?
*** Also, Harry Potter world characters are apparently exempt from the D&D turn order rules; they can cast spells more often than once every six seconds and don't have to win Initiative to act first.

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* GameBreaker: Two A number of in-universe examples, in both ways, too.
examples.
** Avada Kedavra to the D&D verse. Seriously, an instant-death spell without so much as a check?
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check? Also, Harry Potter world characters are apparently exempt from the D&D turn order rules; they can cast spells more often than once every six seconds and don't have to win Initiative to act first.



* GameBreakingBug: Taking an action that would normally cause one of these instead invokes RuleZero to come along with a karmic punishment, amounting to the same thing without destroying the universe. Milo risks it and pays the price.
** Mordenkainen is worried that something like this will happen to him should his master die, as there is [[NothingIsScarier no record anywhere]] of what happens to a {{Familiar}} once their master passes away.
*** [[spoiler: They turn back into a normal animal until their master returns to life.]]
* GenreSavvy / WrongGenreSavvy: Being the munchkin he is, it's no surprise Milo sees where the plot is railing him into. Though most of the time he is also hilariously wrong about people's plans.
** Milo also has a pleasant inversion: [[InvertedTrope Wrong]] GenreBlindness. Several features of his build, most notably his high charisma/low constitution, are suboptimal in his home campaign but useful in the Potterverse.
** Snape often shows signs of being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, such as using flour to detect an invisible Milo when the standard methods for finding invisible people fail.

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* GameBreakingBug: GameBreakingBug:
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Taking an action that would normally cause one of these instead invokes RuleZero to come along with a karmic punishment, amounting to the same thing without destroying the universe. Milo risks it and pays the price.
** Mordenkainen is worried that something like this will happen to him should his master die, as there is [[NothingIsScarier no record anywhere]] of what happens to a {{Familiar}} once their master passes away.
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away. [[spoiler: They turn back into a normal animal until their master returns to life.]]
* GenreSavvy / WrongGenreSavvy: GenreSavvy: Being the munchkin he is, it's no surprise Milo sees where the plot is railing him into. Though most of the time he is also hilariously wrong about people's plans.
** Milo also has a pleasant inversion: [[InvertedTrope Wrong]] GenreBlindness. Several features of his build, most notably his high charisma/low constitution, are suboptimal in his home campaign but useful in the Potterverse.
** Snape often shows signs of being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, such as using flour to detect an invisible Milo when the standard methods for finding invisible people fail.
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* [[spoiler:TheHeroDies: Milo is slain by Tom Riddle's memory, and awakes in his afterlife plane, the [[TrueNeutral Concordant Domain of the Outlands]]. Also doubles as a somewhat meta HeroicSacrifice, as he has the opportunity to include his mother's sacrifice in his backstory to protect himself from Tom, but decides instead to write her in as a living, happy character]]
* HeroicSelfDeprecation: For all that he enjoys making full use of his hard earned magic, Milo will still get down on himself for perceived flaws compared to the native wizards, eventually vowing to do his [[ClassAndLevelSystem Class]] proud, regardless of how underpowered he thinks he is.
** Recently, he's turned to lamenting not being a [[CoDZilla Druid]].
* HufflepuffHouse: Great people. Nothing against them. Perfectly respectable house.
** It becomes a RunningGag that the [[TropeNamer trope namer's]] adherence to this trope is [[ExaggeratedTrope exaggerated]] to the point of [[ParodiedTrope parody]].

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* [[spoiler:TheHeroDies: TheHeroDies: Milo is slain by Tom [[spoiler:Tom Riddle's memory, and awakes in his afterlife plane, plane]], the [[TrueNeutral Concordant Domain of the Outlands]]. Also doubles as a somewhat meta HeroicSacrifice, as he has the opportunity to include his mother's sacrifice in his backstory to protect himself from Tom, but decides instead to write her in as a living, happy character]]
* HeroicSelfDeprecation: For all that he enjoys making full use of his hard earned magic, Milo will still get down on himself for perceived flaws compared to the native wizards, eventually vowing to do his [[ClassAndLevelSystem Class]] proud, regardless of how underpowered he thinks he is.
** Recently, he's turned
is. He's also taken to lamenting not being a [[CoDZilla Druid]].
* HufflepuffHouse: Great people. Nothing against them. Perfectly respectable house.
**
It becomes a RunningGag that the [[TropeNamer trope namer's]] adherence to this trope trope, important to the world building, but utterly irrelevant in the plot, is [[ExaggeratedTrope exaggerated]] to the point of [[ParodiedTrope parody]].



** On the flipside, Milo is wholly unsettled by the slow realization that Potterverse wizards learn gradually over time, rather than in discrete increments like literally every other living thing in his world.
*** And while he hasn't learned of it yet, this will presumably be his reaction to learning that [[spoiler: Lockhart gained his overwhelming backstory by [[AssimilationPlot stealing]] those of others]].

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** On the flipside, Milo is wholly unsettled by the slow realization that Potterverse wizards learn gradually over time, rather than in discrete increments like literally every other living thing in his world.
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world. And while he hasn't learned of it yet, this will presumably be his reaction to learning that [[spoiler: Lockhart gained his overwhelming backstory by [[AssimilationPlot stealing]] those of others]].



* LiteralGenie: Lucius Malfoy later reflects that the ritual that summoned Milo specifically targeted [[spoiler:[[{{TabletopGame/Greyhawk}} Mordenkainen]]]], a "great Archmage, the enigmatic Ninth of Eight", ''by name''. What he got instead was a freakish boy... and [[spoiler:his {{Familiar}}.]]



* MagicMirror: The Mirror of Erised.

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* MagicMirror: The Mirror of Erised.Erised, which shows the viewer their greatest desire.



* {{Magitek}}: Three words: Craft Wondrous Item.

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* %%* {{Magitek}}: Three words: Craft Wondrous Item.



* MilesGloriosus: Gilderoy Lockhart. Very careful to keep up his "legendary hero" cover.

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* MilesGloriosus: Gilderoy Lockhart. Very careful to keep up his "legendary hero" cover.cover, but never gets involved if there is real danger on hand because all of his so-called accomplishments are those of other wizards and witches, whom he mind-wiped with a memory charm in order to take credit for their accomplishments.



* MythologyGag: ''All over the place.''

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* %%* MythologyGag: ''All over the place.''



* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler: Quirrell, very much so and mostly (semi-)intentionally:]]
** [[spoiler:He beats the chess board by pretending to play Ron at chess and instead relaying the Castle's moves to Ron. This teaches Ron the chess board's algorithm, making the chess game he plays for real significantly less dangerous than canon.]]
** [[spoiler:When taking Harry to see the Mirror of Erised as in canon, he sabotages Harry by making him believe he needs the stone to save Milo, thereby failing the test that no-one who wanted to use the stone could retrieve it from the mirror.]]
** [[spoiler:Finally, he puts on an Amulet of Protection from Evil, driving Voldemort away from him.]]

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler: Quirrell, Quirrell,]] very much so and mostly (semi-)intentionally:]]
(semi-)intentionally:
** [[spoiler:He He beats the chess board by pretending to play Ron at chess and instead relaying the Castle's moves to Ron. This teaches Ron the chess board's algorithm, making the chess game he plays for real significantly less dangerous than canon.]]
canon.
** [[spoiler:When When taking Harry to see the Mirror of Erised as in canon, he sabotages Harry by making him believe he needs the stone to save Milo, thereby failing the test that no-one who wanted to use the stone could retrieve it from the mirror.]]
mirror.
** [[spoiler:Finally, Finally, he puts on an Amulet [[spoiler:Amulet of Protection from Evil, driving Voldemort away away]] from him.]]



* NotCheatingUnlessYouGetCaught: The inability of Potterverse magic to detect Milo’s magic (and vice versa) is used and abused extensively. And not just by the heroes...

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* NotCheatingUnlessYouGetCaught: The inability of Potterverse magic to detect Milo’s magic (and vice versa) is used and abused extensively. And not just by the heroes...heroes.



* OffWithHisHead: [[spoiler:How the Basilisk is ultimately killed by Hermione.]]

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* OffWithHisHead: [[spoiler:How How the Basilisk is ultimately killed by Hermione.[[spoiler:Hermione.]]



* ParodyEpisode: The Omake file.

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* %%* ParodyEpisode: The Omake file.



* PopCulturedBadass: The three coppers.

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* %%* PopCulturedBadass: The three coppers.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: DCI Lannigan.

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* %%* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: DCI Lannigan.



* SociopathicHero: This interpretation of Snape.

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* %%* SociopathicHero: This interpretation of Snape.



* StupidEvil: Voldemort, according to Lucius Malfoy.

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* %%* StupidEvil: Voldemort, according to Lucius Malfoy.Malfoy.
* SummonEverymanHero: Milo would be direly insulted to be referred to as an everyman, but he snugly fits the trope of a typical person of one world becoming extremely valuable in another.
* SummoningRitual: How Milo got here.



* SummoningRitual: How Milo got here.
** SummonEverymanHero: Milo would be direly insulted to be referred to as an everyman, but he snugly fits the trope of a typical person of one world becoming extremely valuable in another.
** LiteralGenie: Lucius Malfoy later reflects that the ritual specifically targeted [[spoiler:[[{{TabletopGame/Greyhawk}} Mordenkainen]]]], a "great Archmage, the enigmatic Ninth of Eight", ''by name''. What he got instead was a freakish boy... and [[spoiler:his {{Familiar}}.]]



* TalkingToHimself: Quite possibly the ''only'' example in literature, with Milo and Relkin having spawned from the same player.

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* TalkingToHimself: Quite possibly the ''only'' example in literature, with Milo and Relkin having spawned from the same player.



* [[WhatMeasureIsANonUnique What Measure Is An NPC]]: Milo's world view is divided entirely in PC's and NPC's, at first.
** In chapter 53, [[spoiler:Milo wonders about the morality of retconning his backstory to include tragic events. Nothing in his backstory actually exists until he defines it, so if he adds a tragedy to his backstory, it's as though he caused it himself]].



* WhatMeasureIsANonUnique: Milo's world view is divided entirely in PC's and NPC's, at first.
** In chapter 53, [[spoiler:Milo wonders about the morality of retconning his backstory to include tragic events. Nothing in his backstory actually exists until he defines it, so if he adds a tragedy to his backstory, it's as though he caused it himself]].



* WrongGenreSavvy: Hermione refuses to believe they're in a story, while Milo maintains he is in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign.

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* WrongGenreSavvy: WrongGenreSavvy:
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Hermione refuses to believe they're in a story, while Milo maintains he is in a Dungeons and Dragons campaign.



* XMeetsY: ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' meets ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick''.
28th Apr '16 11:29:48 AM Eagal
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* ActionGirl: PS Fiona Smithe.

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* %%* ActionGirl: PS Fiona Smithe.



* BizarreHumanBiology: see RestingRecovery

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* BizarreHumanBiology: see RestingRecovery%%* BizarreHumanBiology


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* ShownTheirWork: The description of the sound of the flashbang grenade at the beginning of chapter 53 reads like hyperbole. [[RealityIsUnrealistic It isn't.]] An [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M84_stun_grenade M84 stun grenade]] is capable of producing a sound with a peak volume between 170 and 180 decibels. A jet airplane engine [[http://www.makeitlouder.com/Decibel%20Level%20Chart.txt produces sounds between 164 and 166 decibels]], and the then-record-setting "loudest ever" concert performed by Music/TheWho referred to in the description [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudest_band_in_the_world#1976 was measured at 126 decibels at a distance 32 meters from the speakers]]. (In order to produce a sound that loud at that distance, the volume at the surface of the speakers themselves [[http://www.makeitlouder.com/Decibel%20Level%20Chart.txt would have to have been 150 dB]], but nobody could have been that close.) Decibels measure sound amplitude on a logarithmic scale, not a linear one: in order to go up by 10 decibels, you need to increase the sound pressure by a factor of ten. A flashbang grenade that produced a peak volume of 170 decibels would, for that one instant, be about two to four times as loud as a jet airplane engine and ''twenty-five thousand'' times as loud as the rock concert.
** For comparison, the loudest sound it is possible to make is 194 decibels. Past this, the sound waves become shock waves, pushing the air in front of them instead of moving through it.
28th Apr '16 11:23:15 AM Eagal
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* FridgeHorror: Bode's description of how the department will kill Milo if he turns out to be non-human ends with Milo being disapparated into the sun. Then Bode says, "In my experience, that'll kill anything short of a Dementor." What exactly does it take to kill a Dementor?
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