History Fanfic / FromFakeDreams

21st Nov '16 5:29:45 PM darksoul4242
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* EveryoneHasStandards: [[ByronicHero Archer]] is one of the most ruthless characters in the story, much like he is in the source material, to the point that he's willing to [[spoiler:kill his own allies]] if it means furthering his goals, but even ''he'' balks at the thought of telling Rin about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Sakura's]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast childhood]] in front of other people, and he flat out says that he respects Saber too much to reveal what he knows about her back-story and the circumstances behind her pseudo-Servant status. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Luvia:

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* EveryoneHasStandards: [[ByronicHero Archer]] is one of the most ruthless characters in the story, much like he is in the source material, to the point that he's willing to [[spoiler:kill his own allies]] if it means furthering his goals, but even ''he'' balks at the thought of telling Rin about [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil Sakura's]] [[DarkAndTroubledPast childhood]] in front of other people, and he flat out says that he respects Saber too much to reveal what he knows about her back-story and the circumstances behind her pseudo-Servant status.status, and he admits that Ilya is the only person he won't betray consciously. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Luvia:



** He gets to show he has far more standards than even himself gave credit for in chapter 48 by TakingAThirdOption when confronted with Sakura nearly going critical no thanks to Witch!Caster.



* FreakOut: Rin becomes mentally unstable upon realizing EMIYA became a Counter Guardian.

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* FreakOut: FreakOut:
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Rin becomes mentally unstable upon realizing EMIYA became a Counter Guardian.Guardian.
** Shirou also has one upon finally seeing EMIYA.



* HowMuchMoreCanHeTake: [[spoiler:Shirou]] reaches this level of damage against Gilgamesh.

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* HowMuchMoreCanHeTake: [[spoiler:Shirou]] reaches this level of damage against Gilgamesh.Gilgamesh, and against Rider and Caster afterwards.



** Witch!Caster finally gets her comeuppance in the finale of chapter 48.



* IAmNotMyFather: Shirou insists it is not his intent to become like his father, despite how he has the potential to become the next Magus Killer.

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* IAmNotMyFather: Shirou insists it is not his intent to become like his father, despite in spite of how he has the potential to become the next Magus Killer.



** And one more time when he structurally grasps Archer, and it dawns on him what Kiritsugu had been attempting to avoid.

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** And one more time when he structurally grasps Archer, and it dawns on him what just WHAT Kiritsugu had been attempting to avoid.



* NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Shirou tends to go through these moments quite a lot, as per {{Canon}}. [[spoiler:In the Grail War alone, he gets injured to normally-deadly levels by Berserker nearly breaking him apart when he does not have a Servant yet, Assassin blowing his heart out, his own powers backfiring on himself, Gilgamesh unleashing Gate of Babylon on him, a full-power Pegasus controlled by Rider, Rider controlled by Witch!Caster, and finally Witch!Caster herself]]. It certainly helps that he has a HealingFactor.

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* NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Shirou tends to go through these moments quite a lot, as per {{Canon}}. [[spoiler:In the Grail War alone, he gets injured to normally-deadly levels by Berserker nearly breaking him apart when he does not have a Servant yet, Assassin blowing his heart out, his own powers backfiring on himself, Gilgamesh unleashing Gate of Babylon on him, a full-power Pegasus controlled by Rider, Rider controlled by Witch!Caster, and finally Witch!Caster herself]]. It certainly helps that he has a very potent HealingFactor.



** Witch!Caster when [[spoiler: Rin reveals she held to Command Seals to Princess!Caster, and summoned her in the temple, stealing control of it from her, trapping her counterpart in her territory, and unleashing her very pissed dragon against her.]]



** Barring getting her wish coming true, this is what Witch!Caster will settle for: If she dies or does not get her wish, then no one gets to be happy. This is because [[GenreSavvy she figured Shirou's mindset]]. [[spoiler: Averting this is the main drive for the protagonists, and the reason for the GambitPileup in chapter 48.]]

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** Barring getting her wish coming true, this is precisely what Witch!Caster will settle for: If if she dies or does not get her wish, then no one gets to be happy. This is because [[GenreSavvy she figured Shirou's mindset]]. [[spoiler: Averting this is the main drive for the protagonists, and the reason for the GambitPileup in chapter 48.]]
20th Nov '16 10:48:09 PM darksoul4242
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* NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Shirou tends to go through these moments quite a lot, as per {{Canon}}. [[spoiler:In the Grail War alone, he gets injured to normally-deadly levels by Berserker nearly breaking him apart when he does not have a Servant yet, Assassin blowing his heart out, his own powers backfiring on himself, Gilgamesh unleashing Gate of Babylon on him, a full-power Pegasus controlled by Rider, Rider controlled by Witch!Caster, and finally Witch!Caster herself]]. It certainly helps that he has a HealingFactor.
20th Nov '16 7:48:38 PM darksoul4242
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* MyGreatestSecondChance: It feels like Ilya's warning to Archer has finally paid off in chapter 48. [[spoiler:He goes against his first impulse to take the least risk path, and killing Sakura as she is about to unleash a manifestation of Avenger because of Witch!Caster. As a result, he wracks his brains to find a better solution, and manages to TakeAThirdOption via a stroke of luck and the help of Rule Breaker.]]


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** Barring getting her wish coming true, this is what Witch!Caster will settle for: If she dies or does not get her wish, then no one gets to be happy. This is because [[GenreSavvy she figured Shirou's mindset]]. [[spoiler: Averting this is the main drive for the protagonists, and the reason for the GambitPileup in chapter 48.]]
19th Nov '16 9:08:31 PM darksoul4242
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* BrokeYourArmPunchingOutCthulhu: Tends to happen to Shirou quite a lot when he faces foes he should have no business fighting in close quarters, and ends up very badly wounded quite a few times because of it.



** [[spoiler: In Chapter 48 we see how far Witch!Caster goes in regards to pressing Shirou's ItsPersonal buttons : making it so no one can use Rule Breaker against her Servants, meddling with Sakura, resurrecting Kirei Kotomine.]]



** Illya briefly goes into this when faced with the idea that Shirou snuck into the Einsbern castle and rigged it with bombs without anyone knowing.

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** Illya briefly goes into this when faced with the idea that Shirou snuck into the Einsbern Einzbern castle and rigged it with bombs without anyone knowing.



** [[spoiler: Lancer's rune curse that triggers a deathmatch can be countered if someone else enacts it of their own accord.]]



* MajorInjuryUnderreaction: Shirou has such a moment in chapter 43.

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* MajorInjuryUnderreaction: Shirou has such a moment in chapter 43.43, and yet again in chapter 48.



* PreMortemOneLiner: In the same chapter as the aforementioned Pre-Asskicking One-Liner, from Shirou when he's [[spoiler:comparing Louvre's collection of weapons to his]].

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* PreMortemOneLiner: PreMortemOneLiner:
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In the same chapter as the aforementioned Pre-Asskicking One-Liner, from Shirou when he's [[spoiler:comparing Louvre's collection of weapons to his]].


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** In chapter 48, a magnificent one that did not get to be acted upon, but came very close.
-->''"...You, aren't very good at this."''


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** Witch!Caster sort of goes through one by the end of chapter 48.


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** Archer gets one such moment in chapter 48 [[spoiler: when he find a way to save Sakura instead of killing her to prevent Avenger from going berserk.]]
19th Nov '16 8:54:16 PM darksoul4242
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* BoomHeadshot: [[spoiler:Assassin on Witch!Caster in chapter 48.]]



** He does the same thing later on, in the middle of the Holy Grail War: Shirou successfully ropes Lorelei into covering his back in the event his machinations are revealed to the global magus community, and takes his first steps in protecting the people he cares about, by 1) contacting her ahead of everyone and letting her know more of the truth than anyone will get access to, 2) dangling the very attractive prospect of having several Servants to command, and 3) giving a very strongly implied threat that if Lorelei dares touch his {{Protectorate}}, [[BewareTheNiceOnes he will gamble everything]] [[InsaneTrollLogic to smear the achievement of her life]]. This is impressive in its own right because it's a double instance of StaringDownCthulhu, where Shirou actually [[ShameIfSomethingHappened threatens to HURT]] an EldritchAbomination to HOLD IN CHECK his very badass boss. It's more this trope than Staring Down Cthulu because it's actually used as a bargaining chip to ensure no one gets flak from Shirou's machinations.

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** He does the same thing later on, in the middle of the Holy Grail War: Shirou successfully ropes Lorelei into covering his back in the event his machinations are revealed to the global magus community, and takes his first steps in protecting the people he cares about, by 1) contacting her ahead of everyone and letting her know more of the truth than anyone will get access to, 2) dangling the very attractive prospect of having several Servants to command, and 3) giving a very strongly implied threat that if Lorelei dares touch his {{Protectorate}}, [[BewareTheNiceOnes he will gamble everything]] [[InsaneTrollLogic to smear the achievement of her life]]. This is impressive in its own right because it's a double instance of StaringDownCthulhu, where Shirou actually [[ShameIfSomethingHappened threatens to HURT]] an EldritchAbomination to HOLD IN CHECK his very badass boss. It's more this trope than Staring Down Cthulu Cthulhu because it's actually used as a bargaining chip to ensure no one gets flak from Shirou's machinations.



** Chapter 48 has quite the list too: [[spoiler:Lancer did not expect Saber to use a rune curse to get locked in deathmatch with him, Rin did not expect Kirei to be resurrected, Witch!Caster did not expect Shirou to be able to defend against Rider's full power, no one expected With!Caster to be stupid enough to mess with Avenger's curse to get at Sakura, Witch!Caster did not expect Rin to hold the Command Seals to Princess!Caster, and last of all she certainly did not expect Assassin in her workshop at the last moment.]]



** Shirou is shaping up to follow in his father's footsteps as "The Second Magus Killer" [[spoiler:after killing Louvre]]. This is not necessarily a good thing.

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** Shirou is shaping up to follow in his father's footsteps as "The Second Magus Killer" [[spoiler:after killing Louvre]]. This is not necessarily a good thing.thing, given the number of times he is compared to a monster rather than a hero.


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* GambitPileup: Chapter 48 has a very good example of one. Witch!Caster and Shirou try every trick in their repertoire to outwit each other, forcing each other to rely upon more and more flimsy backup plans.
15th Oct '16 7:14:22 AM RighteousFury
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: When Medea, the Witch of Betrayal , discovers the room of vegetative orphans being used as prana batteries in the church basement, she razes it and brings the ceiling down on it in disgust. In her words, although using others for one's benefit is a familiar idea to her, even she has a limit to how much unnecessary cruelty she's willing to put her victims through.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: EvenEvilHasStandards:
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When Medea, the Witch of Betrayal , discovers the room of vegetative orphans being used as prana batteries in the church basement, she razes it and brings the ceiling down on it in disgust. In her words, although using others for one's benefit is a familiar idea to her, even she has a limit to how much unnecessary cruelty she's willing to put her victims through.through.
** For all the times he's betrayed his allies throughout the various incarnations of the Fifth Grail War he's been involved in, the one thing Archer refuses to do is [[spoiler:[[BigBrotherInstinct have Illya be harmed as a direct result of his actions]].]]



* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:RichBitch Marjatta]] constantly looks down on other people, viewing them as "peasants" and considering herself several times superior to them because of her bloodline, to the point where she doesn't care that families are dying [[spoiler:due to her Caster draining their prana]]. It's also revealed she [[spoiler:killed a potential Master in cold blood before the War even started to get a second set of Command Seals]]. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Caster's]] [[ForegoneConclusion betrayal]] comes off more as her getting her just desserts than anything else...

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* LaserGuidedKarma: LaserGuidedKarma:
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[[spoiler:RichBitch Marjatta]] constantly looks down on other people, viewing them as "peasants" and considering herself several times superior to them because of her bloodline, to the point where she doesn't care that families are dying [[spoiler:due to her Caster draining their prana]]. It's also revealed she [[spoiler:killed a potential Master in cold blood before the War even started to get a second set of Command Seals]]. [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Caster's]] [[ForegoneConclusion betrayal]] comes off more as her getting her just desserts than anything else...else...
** Two chapters after giving a particularly scathing TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Princess!Caster, Archer finds himself on the receiving end of one himself from [[spoiler:Illya, the one person Archer has always refused to directly harm in any way]].



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Archer gives a particularly brutal one to Princess!Caster in Chapter 45.

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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Archer gives a particularly brutal one to Princess!Caster in Chapter 45. [[spoiler:Illya]] returns the favor to him two chapters later.
15th Oct '16 6:51:13 AM RighteousFury
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* DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Even knowing that the Grail is corrupt, [[spoiler:Caster]] still intends to use it, claiming the fact that it is cursed will only ensure that [spoiler:her]] wish will comes to fruition in far more grander ways than even [[spoiler:she]] imagined. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Archer:

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* DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Even knowing that the Grail is corrupt, [[spoiler:Caster]] still intends to use it, claiming the fact that it is cursed will only ensure that [spoiler:her]] [[spoiler:her]] wish will comes to fruition in far more grander ways than even [[spoiler:she]] imagined. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Archer:
15th Oct '16 6:50:01 AM RighteousFury
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* DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Even knowing that the Grail is corrupt, [[spoiler:Caster]] still intends to use it, claiming the fact that it is cursed will only ensure that [spoiler:her]] wish will comes to fruition in far more grander ways than even [[spoiler:she]] imagined. [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Archer:
--> '''Archer''': ...How annoying. [[spoiler:She]] ''wants'' the world to burn in the process of fulfilling [[spoiler:her]] wish.



* ForTheEvulz: Caster's whole motivation for [[spoiler:using the Command Seals she stole from Kirei to order Rider and Assassin to kill themselves if anybody approaches them with Rule Breaker. Even if Shirou manages to defeat her in the FinalBattle, she'll have ensured he won't be able to save anyone.]]



* PreAsskickingOneLiner: Rin as she [[spoiler: points the Thompson Contender at an enraged Louvre]].
-->''"...Get off my property."''

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* PreAsskickingOneLiner: PreAsskickingOneLiner:
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Rin as she [[spoiler: points the Thompson Contender at an enraged Louvre]].
-->''"...--->''"...Get off my property."''"''
** Shirou gets an even more epic one at the end of Chapter 47 as he prepares his allies for the FinalBattle against Caster:
--->"Finish any and all preparations you have left. Pack light. Eat light. Tonight we burn a Witch."


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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: [[spoiler:Shirou begins to apologize to his allies for [[TheChessmaster having them risk their lives without telling them what was going on from the start]], only for Rin to interrupt, saying that the hardships they've faced are due to the faults of others and it was only because of Shirou that they were able to survive them at all to get up to this point. She goes on to say that the only thing Shirou's really guilty of is trying to solve every problem by himself without telling anybody or accepting help from them (and even ''then'' that was mostly due to being under Zouken's watch at the time). One by one, Sakura, Luvia, Illya, Princess!Caster, and Saber all agree, throwing their support behind Shirou to the very end.]]
15th Oct '16 6:14:35 AM RighteousFury
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** For Marjatta Edelfelt, see Humiliation Conga below.

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** For Marjatta Edelfelt, see Humiliation Conga HumiliationConga below.
15th Oct '16 6:11:54 AM RighteousFury
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* Power Copying: Shirou, of course, as lampshaded by Rin, since he can memorize and perfectly mimic pretty much any thaumaturgy, [[AwesomeButImpractical provided it is sword-shaped]]... Borders on PowersAsPrograms except Shirou (or Archer) is pretty much the only person who can pull this, but he does actually manage his collection of swords with practical effects in mind, improving the blueprints in his mind, so he has always the right tool (elemental, antimagic, absurdly sharp, to name the most obvious) available at hand.

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* Power Copying: PowerCopying: Shirou, of course, as lampshaded by Rin, since he can memorize and perfectly mimic pretty much any thaumaturgy, [[AwesomeButImpractical provided it is sword-shaped]]... Borders on PowersAsPrograms except Shirou (or Archer) is pretty much the only person who can pull this, but he does actually manage his collection of swords with practical effects in mind, improving the blueprints in his mind, so he has always the right tool (elemental, antimagic, absurdly sharp, to name the most obvious) available at hand.



* Protectorate: Chapter 40 has Shirou explain that he has one, and just how far he will go to defend it, even against the Queen of the Clocktower. See ShameIfSomethingHappened below.

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* Protectorate: {{Protectorate}}: Chapter 40 has Shirou explain that he has one, and just how far he will go to defend it, even against the Queen of the Clocktower. See ShameIfSomethingHappened below.
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