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** Figure skaters versus hockey players. [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal 'Tis totally true, tropers.]]



* Figure skaters versus hockey players. [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal 'Tis totally true, tropers.]]



*** The Lone Star Showdown is also on hold indefinitely due to Texas A&M leaving the Big 12 Conference to join the SEC.

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*** The Lone Star Showdown is also on hold indefinitely due to Texas A&M leaving the Big 12 Conference to join the SEC. Both fanbases would like to bring the annual game back, but there are no concrete plans to do so at this point.



*** Unfortunately, this rivalry was discontinued in 2012 when Texas A&M departed for the SEC. Both fanbases would like to bring the annual game back, but there are no concrete plans to do so at this point.



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*** Michigan/Michigan State isn't as big a rivalry as Michigan/Ohio State, but you'd never know that as a kid growing up in the Detroit area. It's been known to split families in two on the day of the game. It's even gotten to the point where guards are posted around Sparty (Michigan State's mascot) whenever Michigan comes to play, since Michigan fans will sometimes paint a little golden M (the Michigan logo) on his bottom, and Ann Arbor (where Michigan is located) will have blue and gold street signs (everywhere else in the area has green and white street signs, but green and white are Michigan State's official colors while blue and gold or Michigan's colors).

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** Michigan/Michigan State isn't as big a rivalry as Michigan/Ohio State, but you'd never know that as a kid growing up in the Detroit area. It's been known to split families in two on the day of the game. It's even gotten to the point where guards are posted around Sparty (Michigan State's mascot) whenever Michigan comes to play, since Michigan fans will sometimes paint a little golden M (the Michigan logo) on his bottom, and Ann Arbor (where Michigan is located) will have blue and gold street signs (everywhere else in the area has green and white street signs, but green and white are Michigan State's official colors while blue and gold or Michigan's colors).



** BCS. Never before have three letters brought such rage in collegiate sports. And that's just if you support a college from automatic-qualifying conference. Supporting a non-AQ college means those letters mean [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney something]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem else]] [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections entirely...]]
** Florida-Florida State. In fact, all college football teams in Florida other than the Gators tend to dislike the Gators, as they have a rivalry with the Hurricanes and the Seminoles.
** The North Carolina-Duke rivalry is so strong that when somebody wrote a book about it, it was titled ''To Hate Like This Is To Be Happy Forever''. A lot of fans on both sides took one look at that title and went, "Yep."
** The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill versus North Carolina State University rivalry can get pretty intense, too. On a side note, there is some weirdly enthusiastic rivalry between UNC-A and UNC-CH...
** Alabama State and A&M for the SWAC division (the bands too).



** Um... what about Ravens/Steelers? THAT can get nasty quickly. This is due to the fact that this feud is the SpiritualSuccessor to the original Cleveland Browns/Steelers rivalry (Art Modell was the founder of both the Browns and Ravens, and he moved his team and the staff to Baltimore in 1996. However, the city of Cleveland retained the Browns' history, records, championships, team colors, etc.).

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** Um... what about Ravens/Steelers? THAT Ravens/Steelers can get nasty quickly. This is due to the fact that this feud is the SpiritualSuccessor to the original Cleveland Browns/Steelers rivalry (Art Modell was the founder of both the Browns and Ravens, and he moved his team and the staff to Baltimore in 1996. However, the city of Cleveland retained the Browns' history, records, championships, team colors, etc.).



** Try visiting the Oakland Coliseum as a supporter of the Chiefs, Broncos or Chargers. I warn you, there WILL be blood. Raider Nation is vicious to AFC West fans, and I've seen many a fight break out just because of a guy having too much to drink taking offense at someone not clad in silver and black. If you do manage to avoid a fight, be prepared to sit through a long day of getting heckled and jeered at. Until the Raiders lose, anyway.

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** Try visiting the Oakland Coliseum as a supporter of the Chiefs, Broncos or Chargers. I warn you, there There WILL be blood. Raider Nation is vicious to AFC West fans, and I've seen many a fight break breaks out just because of a guy having too much to drink taking offense at someone not clad in silver and black. If you do manage to avoid a fight, be prepared to sit through a long day of getting heckled and jeered at. Until the Raiders lose, anyway.



*** Someone hasn't seen the insanity of The Old Firm...



* And is only paying attention to pro sports. Seriously, nothing, not even Yankees-Red Sox, can compare to some of the rivalries found at the college level. The best examples I can think of off the top of my head (some already mentioned) are North Carolina-Duke, Ohio State-Michigan, and Alabama-Auburn. There are plenty of others, but then this list would go on forever--and honestly, those three are probably all you need to know. Oh, but of course, the ''real'' way to start a fight is to give an opinion on which ''conference'' is the best.
** BCS. Never before have three letters brought such rage in collegiate sports. And that's just if you support a college from automatic-qualifying conference. Supporting a non-AQ college means those letters mean [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney something]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem else]] [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections entirely...]]
*** Unless you want to start a rivalry about rivalries, you'd better add Florida-Florida State to that list.
*** College football teams in Florida other than the Gators tend to dislike the Gators, as they have a rivalry with the Hurricanes and the Seminoles.
** The North Carolina-Duke rivalry is so strong that when somebody wrote a book about it, it was titled ''To Hate Like This Is To Be Happy Forever''. A lot of fans on both sides took one look at that title and went, "Yep."
*** The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill versus North Carolina State University rivalry can get pretty intense, too. On a side note, there is some weirdly enthusiastic rivalry between UNC-A and UNC-CH...
*** Alabama State and A&M for the SWAC division (the bands too).
* Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants, anyone? People have '''died''' over it.
** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco. There's a reason why [[http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/28/baseball-best-rivalries-lifestyle-sports-baseball_slide_11.html?thisSpeed=undefined Forbes]] and [[http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/lists/MLB-top-10-rivalries-042710#tab=photo-title=Dodgers-Giants&photo=11184034 Fox Sports]] rated it the #1 rivalry in baseball, period. The Red Sox-Yankees Rivalry is seated at #2 because no matter how much the media and the fans play it/admit it, the rivalry is too one-sided in terms of championships (Yankees have 27, Red Sox have 7. See how wide a margin that is?). The Dodgers and the Giants are just about even in their accomplishments and they have the most storied rivalry in baseball history.
* Just in ''Northern'' California, there's San Francisco vs. Oakland. Seen in both baseball (Giants/A's) and football (Forty-Niners/Raiders). I own a cap with the logos of both baseball teams on it, and the last time I wore it to a game between the two I heard calls to "Get off the fence!"
** And don't forget the Chicago teams - the rivalry between the Cubs and the White Sox runs deep. Like to the point where the PD breaks out the mounted riot police when they two teams play each other each season.

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* And is only paying attention to pro sports. Seriously, nothing, not even Yankees-Red Sox, can compare to some of the rivalries found at the college level. The best examples I can think of off the top of my head (some already mentioned) are North Carolina-Duke, Ohio State-Michigan, and Alabama-Auburn. There are plenty of others, but then this list would go on forever--and honestly, those three are probably all you need to know. Oh, but of course, the ''real'' way to start a fight is to give an opinion on which ''conference'' is the best.
** BCS. Never before have three letters brought such rage in collegiate sports. And that's just if you support a college from automatic-qualifying conference. Supporting a non-AQ college means those letters mean [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney something]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem else]] [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections entirely...]]
*** Unless you want to start a rivalry about rivalries, you'd better add Florida-Florida State to that list.
*** College football teams in Florida other than the Gators tend to dislike the Gators, as they have a rivalry with the Hurricanes and the Seminoles.
** The North Carolina-Duke rivalry is so strong that when somebody wrote a book about it, it was titled ''To Hate Like This Is To Be Happy Forever''. A lot of fans on both sides took one look at that title and went, "Yep."
*** The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill versus North Carolina State University rivalry can get pretty intense, too. On a side note, there is some weirdly enthusiastic rivalry between UNC-A and UNC-CH...
*** Alabama State and A&M for the SWAC division (the bands too).
* Los Angeles Dodgers and San Francisco Giants, anyone? People have '''died''' over it.
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it. It's the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco. There's a reason why [[http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/28/baseball-best-rivalries-lifestyle-sports-baseball_slide_11.html?thisSpeed=undefined Forbes]] and [[http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/lists/MLB-top-10-rivalries-042710#tab=photo-title=Dodgers-Giants&photo=11184034 Fox Sports]] rated it the #1 rivalry in baseball, period. The Red Sox-Yankees Rivalry is seated at #2 because no matter how much the media and the fans play it/admit it, the rivalry is too one-sided in terms of championships (Yankees have 27, Red Sox have 7. See how wide a margin that is?). The Dodgers and the Giants are just about even in their accomplishments and they have the most storied rivalry in baseball history.
* Just in ''Northern'' California, there's San Francisco vs. Oakland. Seen in both baseball (Giants/A's) and football (Forty-Niners/Raiders). I own a cap with the logos of both baseball teams on it, and the last time I wore it to a game between the two I heard calls to "Get off the fence!"
(Forty-Niners/Raiders).
** And don't forget the Chicago teams - the rivalry between the Cubs and the White Sox runs deep. Like to the point where the PD breaks out the mounted riot police when they two teams play each other each season.



** Chicago and St. Louis' other rivalry has heated up in recent years. The Blues and Blackhawks fans aren't really keen of one another. One of the burning points in the 40+ year rivalry was in the 1992-93 NHL playoffs. Heavily favoured to win the series, Chicago wound up getting swept by the Blues in the Clarence Campbell quarterfinals.
*** Related to the NationalHockeyLeague, the Blackhawks also have one with the Detroit Red Wings (which in fact have some heat with basically every US team, with the other standouts being Anaheim and )

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** Chicago and St. Louis' other rivalry has heated up in recent years. The Blues and Blackhawks fans aren't really keen of on one another. One of the burning points in the 40+ year rivalry was in the 1992-93 NHL playoffs. Heavily favoured to win the series, Chicago wound up getting swept by the Blues in the Clarence Campbell quarterfinals.
*** Related to the NationalHockeyLeague, the Blackhawks also have one with the Detroit Red Wings (which in fact have some heat with basically every US team, with the other standouts being Anaheim and )team).



---> '''There was also a time when [=McLaren=] men would have respected their rivals enough not to laugh at them. But after the happenings in recent months, that respect has gone. They laughed at them. At [=McLaren=] there is a new F-word these days. Ferrari.'''

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---> '''There --->"There was also a time when [=McLaren=] men would have respected their rivals enough not to laugh at them. But after the happenings in recent months, that respect has gone. They laughed at them. At [=McLaren=] there is a new F-word these days. Ferrari.'''"



---> Your allegiance to one or the other is expected to be absolute and uncompromising. Mention that your favourite brand is [[TakeAThirdOption BMW, for example]], and you’ll be thought of as a wanker at best, and a traitor to your country at worst. Wistful recollections about ‘Godzilla’ (the Nissan Skyline R32), however, are acceptable.

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---> --> Your allegiance to one or the other is expected to be absolute and uncompromising. Mention that your favourite brand is [[TakeAThirdOption BMW, for example]], and you’ll you'll be thought of as a wanker at best, and a traitor to your country at worst. Wistful recollections about ‘Godzilla’ 'Godzilla' (the Nissan Skyline R32), however, are acceptable.



** Also currently, The original 1992 Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.

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** Also currently, The original 1992 Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.



* Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''. This extends beyond sports to business and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue_in_Texas barbecue]].

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** [[http://www.battleofcali.com/ A whole website]] is dedicated for the three California hockey teams to take shots at each other.


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** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco. There's a reason why Forbes rated it the #1 rivalry in baseball, period. The Red Sox-Yankees Rivalry is seated at #2 because no matter how much the media and the fans play it/admit it, the rivalry is too one-sided in terms of championships (Yankees have 27, Red Sox have 7. See how wide a margin that is?). The Dodgers and the Giants are just about even in their accomplishments and they have the most storied rivalry in baseball history.

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** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco. There's a reason why Forbes [[http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/28/baseball-best-rivalries-lifestyle-sports-baseball_slide_11.html?thisSpeed=undefined Forbes]] and [[http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/lists/MLB-top-10-rivalries-042710#tab=photo-title=Dodgers-Giants&photo=11184034 Fox Sports]] rated it the #1 rivalry in baseball, period. The Red Sox-Yankees Rivalry is seated at #2 because no matter how much the media and the fans play it/admit it, the rivalry is too one-sided in terms of championships (Yankees have 27, Red Sox have 7. See how wide a margin that is?). The Dodgers and the Giants are just about even in their accomplishments and they have the most storied rivalry in baseball history.
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* Los Angeles Dodgers and San Fransisco Giants, anyone? People have '''died''' over it.
** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco.

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* Los Angeles Dodgers and San Fransisco Francisco Giants, anyone? People have '''died''' over it.
** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco. There's a reason why Forbes rated it the #1 rivalry in baseball, period. The Red Sox-Yankees Rivalry is seated at #2 because no matter how much the media and the fans play it/admit it, the rivalry is too one-sided in terms of championships (Yankees have 27, Red Sox have 7. See how wide a margin that is?). The Dodgers and the Giants are just about even in their accomplishments and they have the most storied rivalry in baseball history.
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*** Unfortunately, this rivalry was discontinued in 2012 when Texas A&M departed for the SEC. Both fanbases would like to bring the annual game back, but there are no concrete plans to do so at this point.
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** UCLA vs USC. They absolutely HATE each other. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y2fdYMYpEM ESPN demostrates]]The crosstown rivalry splits families at times. It doesn't help that it's in Los Angeles, the second most populated city in the United States.
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No one in St. Louis cares about the Royals. The Cardinals gave up their home part of the rivalry interleague series agaisnt the Royals several times because they thought another American League team would be a bigger draw


* Speaking of Chicago, there is no love lost between the Cubs and St. Louis Cardinals. It can either be this or FriendlyRivalry depending on the season. A lesser known rivalry with the Cardinals is the Kansas City Royals, forming an in-state rivalry ever since the 1985 World Series.

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* Speaking of Chicago, there is no love lost between the Cubs and St. Louis Cardinals. It can either be this or FriendlyRivalry depending on the season. A lesser known rivalry with the Cardinals is the Kansas City Royals, forming an in-state rivalry ever since the 1985 World Series.
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*** The Lone Star Showdown is also on hold indefinitely due to Texas A&M leaving the Big 12 Conference to join the SEC.
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** In terms of longevity at least, the rivalry between Patriot League enemies Lafayette and Lehigh top all others. They've been going at it every year since ''1897'', making their big game the oldest uninterrupted college football rivalry in the United States.
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*** '''Everybody''' versus Manchester United. The team have been extremely successful since the 1980s at least, leading to practically every other team seeing them as the one to beat, and to a stereotype of their fans as "[[IFightForTheStrongestSide glory hunters]]" who have no regional connection to them and only like them because they win all the time. In the 2000s, people from all over the country also began to hate Chelsea and Manchester City, because they're seen as only being successful because their fantastically wealthy foreign owners [[BribingYourWayToVictory can buy any player they fancy]].
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** New Jersey/New York (Rangers, who of course, also fight with fellow city team Islanders)
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* {{Cricket}} has major international rivalries between Australia and England (TheAshes) and India and Pakistan. There is also a rivalry between fans of different formats of the game - Test and Limited Overs cricket. Limited Overs fans view test cricket as slow and stodgy, while test fans view the limited overs game as a bash-and-crash game for those who don't have the intelligence or attention span to appreciate the skill and strategy on display in tests. Twenty20 cricket especially is often referred to as [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous (gasp!)]] "baseball".

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* {{Cricket}} has major international rivalries between Australia and England (TheAshes) and India and Pakistan. There is also a rivalry between fans of different formats of the game - Test and Limited Overs cricket. Limited Overs fans view test cricket as slow and stodgy, while test fans view the limited overs game as a bash-and-crash game for those who don't have the intelligence or attention span to appreciate the skill and strategy on display in tests. Twenty20 cricket especially is often referred to as [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous (gasp!)]] (gasp!) "baseball".
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* How about ''ProfessionalWrestling'' fans vs ''MMA'' and ''Boxing'' fans.fans.
* {{Cricket}} has major international rivalries between Australia and England (TheAshes) and India and Pakistan. There is also a rivalry between fans of different formats of the game - Test and Limited Overs cricket. Limited Overs fans view test cricket as slow and stodgy, while test fans view the limited overs game as a bash-and-crash game for those who don't have the intelligence or attention span to appreciate the skill and strategy on display in tests. Twenty20 cricket especially is often referred to as [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotHeinous (gasp!)]] "baseball".
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*** There's also Pats-Jets, although that ties in more to the general theme of Boston-NYC.
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* Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''.

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* Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''. This extends beyond sports to business and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue_in_Texas barbecue]].
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*** Note that wearing red and gray in Ann Arbor would be a capital offense, but for the fact that Michigan abolished the death penalty in 1846.[[note]]For most crimes; treason was technically a capital offense before the Constitution of 1963 placed a complete ban.[[/note]]

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*** Note that wearing red and gray in Ann Arbor would be a capital offense, but for the fact that Michigan abolished the death penalty in 1846.[[note]]For most crimes; treason was treason--and you might argue that wearing OSU colors in Ann Arbor is similar to treason, seeing as it gives aid and comfort to the enemy--was technically a capital offense before the Constitution of 1963 placed a complete ban.[[/note]]
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*** Note that wearing red and gray in Ann Arbor would be a capital offense, but for the fact that Michigan abolished the death penalty in 1846.[[note]]For most crimes; treason was technically a capital offense before the Constitution of 1963 placed a complete ban.[[/note]]
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** Outside of Victoria, we have Adelaide vs Port Adelaide, and West Coast vs Fremantle. Supporters of either club generally think of the other club and their supporters as scum.
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* Everyone vs. the Yankees. Seriously, most fans of pro Baseball who don't specifically support the Yankees will support almost any team over the Yankees.
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** Try visiting the Oakland Coliseum as a supporter of the Chiefs, Broncos or Chargers. I warn you, there WILL be blood. Raider Nation is vicious to AFC West fans, and I've seen many a fight break out just because of a guy having too much to drink taking offense at someone not clad in silver and black. If you do manage to avoid a fight, be prepared to sit through a long day of getting heckled and jeered at. Until the Raiders lose, anyway.
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*** Another reason for the Union vs. League rivalry is that many skills are transferable across the two sports, so players can and ''do'' switch codes, leading to accusations from fans of one about the other "stealing" star players and young talents.
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** Nowadays you still have the rivalry between [=McLaren=] and Ferrari fans, and those fans invoking EnemyMine to go against a third team-Red Bull, who shot up to prominence in recent seasons.
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** In fact, the St. Louis Cardinals themselves were actually a ''product'' of the Chicago/St. Louis rivalry. St. Louisans back in the mid-1800s got fed up with Chicago professional baseball teams coming in and inflicting a CurbStompBattle against amateur St. Louis clubs, so the locals went about getting a professional team of their own. 11 World Championships later...

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** Also Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''.



-> Your allegiance to one or the other is expected to be absolute and uncompromising. Mention that your favourite brand is [[TakeAThirdOption BMW, for example]], and you’ll be thought of as a wanker at best, and a traitor to your country at worst. Wistful recollections about ‘Godzilla’ (the Nissan Skyline R32), however, are acceptable.

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** Also currently, The Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.

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** Also currently, The original 1992 Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.



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* Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''.
* How about ''ProfessionalWrestling'' fans vs ''MMA'', ''MMA'' and ''Boxing'' fans.
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** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between LosAngeles and SanFrancisco.

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** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between LosAngeles UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and SanFrancisco.



* Even HorseRacing fans get into this. The biggest split is between those who think [[CoolHorse Man O' War]] was the Greatest Racehorse Ever (won 20 out of 21 starts, never finished below second place, would have won the Triple Crown if his owner had run him in the Derby, carried truly massive handicap weights) and those who think Film/{{Secretariat}} is the Greatest Racehorse Ever (Triple Crown winner, won 16 out of 21 starts, with 3 second-place finishes, one third, and one fourth, broke pretty much every standing race and track record he came across including those of all three Triple Crown races, and perhaps most famously, broke the Belmont Park all-time track record by ''two-and-a-fifths seconds'' [[hottip:*:For non-racing fans, breaking a record by 1/5 of a second is the norm. 2/5 is a bit rarer. Two whole seconds is ''unheard'' of.]] while winning his Belmont by ''thirty. one. lengths''). The arguments can get [[InternetBackdraft rather heated]].

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* Even HorseRacing fans get into this. The biggest split is between those who think [[CoolHorse Man O' War]] was the Greatest Racehorse Ever (won 20 out of 21 starts, never finished below second place, would have won the Triple Crown if his owner had run him in the Derby, carried truly massive handicap weights) and those who think Film/{{Secretariat}} is the Greatest Racehorse Ever (Triple Crown winner, won 16 out of 21 starts, with 3 second-place finishes, one third, and one fourth, broke pretty much every standing race and track record he came across including those of all three Triple Crown races, and perhaps most famously, broke the Belmont Park all-time track record by ''two-and-a-fifths seconds'' [[hottip:*:For [[note]]For non-racing fans, breaking a record by 1/5 of a second is the norm. 2/5 is a bit rarer. Two whole seconds is ''unheard'' of.]] [[/note]] while winning his Belmont by ''thirty. one. lengths''). The arguments can get [[InternetBackdraft rather heated]].



** Also currently, The Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.

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** Also currently, The Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.



** This is probably because of an accident of scheduling: their seasons overlap pretty much perfectly (October-June), and they often play in the same venues (a hockey rink is a bit bigger than a basketball court, but only a bit): in nine of the 12 cities that have both NHL and NBA teams,[[note]]The nine cities are Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Phoenix all have separate venues for basketball and hockey.[[/note]] they have to share an arena. This naturally makes scheduling a pain in the arse and causes all manner of other problems, as well.

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** This is probably because of an accident of scheduling: their seasons overlap pretty much perfectly (October-June), and they often play in the same venues (a hockey rink is a bit bigger than a basketball court, but only a bit): in nine of the 12 cities that have both NHL and NBA teams,[[note]]The nine cities are Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Washington, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Denver and Los Angeles. Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Phoenix all have separate venues for basketball and hockey.[[/note]] [[/note]] they have to share an arena. This naturally makes scheduling a pain in the arse and causes all manner of other problems, as well.
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*** Their current antics also have political connotations: the Ahlawy Ultras were deeply involved in the Revolution of 2011, serving as the "muscle" for the revolutionaries, protecting them against the police.
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** Also currently, The Dream Team vs the current 2012 lineup for the Olympics. Hoo boy, it doesn't help that Kobe was the one who started it.
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** Within Formula 1 the bitterest rivalry is probably McLaren vs Ferrari; major bouts include 1976 (Hunt vs Lauda), 1985 (Alboreto vs Prost), 1998-2000 (Schumacher vs Hakkinen) and 2007-2008 (Alonso & Hamilton vs Raikkonen & Massa). The whole thing seems to have peaked in 2007 when the "Stepneygate" scandal led to McLaren getting booted out of the championship that year thanks to some stolen Ferrari documents, after which both parties apparently stepped back and asked themselves, "What the hell are we doing?" As Mike Doodson wrote for the grandprix.com website:
---> '''There was also a time when McLaren men would have respected their rivals enough not to laugh at them. But after the happenings in recent months, that respect has gone. They laughed at them. At McLaren there is a new F-word these days. Ferrari.'''

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** Within Formula 1 the bitterest rivalry is probably McLaren [=McLaren=] vs Ferrari; major bouts include 1976 (Hunt vs Lauda), 1985 (Alboreto vs Prost), 1998-2000 (Schumacher vs Hakkinen) and 2007-2008 (Alonso & Hamilton vs Raikkonen & Massa). The whole thing seems to have peaked in 2007 when the "Stepneygate" scandal led to McLaren [=McLaren=] getting booted out of the championship that year thanks to some stolen Ferrari documents, after which both parties apparently stepped back and asked themselves, "What the hell are we doing?" As Mike Doodson wrote for the grandprix.com website:
---> '''There was also a time when McLaren [=McLaren=] men would have respected their rivals enough not to laugh at them. But after the happenings in recent months, that respect has gone. They laughed at them. At McLaren [=McLaren=] there is a new F-word these days. Ferrari.'''

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* Sports rivalries. Hoo boy. Over here in Europe it's mostly the football, but it probably varies worldwide. Listing them all would take forever, but each country has a few prominent teams, and liking one automatically means you have to passionately hate whoever is playing them.
** If there's a UrExample, it must be Celtic-Rangers, the Old Firm. This has been going on for all of 121 years, with the two clubs becoming symbols of the deep social and religious divides in Scotland. Also in the UK, there are several London derbies such as Arsenal-Spurs and Fulham-Chelsea plus there's Newcastle-Sunderland, Man Utd-Man City and Villa-Birmingham. The most potent English rivalry by far though is Manchester United vs Liverpool. The two biggest and most successful English clubs, from rival cities only 26 miles apart, yet bear similarities in the start of their success, dominating periods and even shirt colour.
*** Celtic-Rangers are also widely supported in StrokeCountry, as a further sign of [[TheTroubles the divisions around here]].
*** Celtic was never (officially) the "Catholic team" but was always about Irish heritage. Rangers ''was'' officially sectarian until the 1980s when they signed Mo Johnson.... and a bunch of lifelong Rangers fans [[FacePalm burnt their season tickets in protest against this unthinkable abomination.]]
** In Wales, Cardiff City vs. Swansea City is starting to develop as a rather nasty rivalry now that the two teams are in the same division and play each other on a regular basis.
*** Except now, as Swansea has claim to being the first ''Welsh'' team to play in the ''English'' Premier League, whereas Cardiff lost its playoff semi-final to Reading (who lost to Swansea). This will probably only help to add fuel to the fire.
** Argentina's soccer rivalries. Name any of them. The most important of these, of course, is Boca Juniors - River Plate, but there's also Independiente - Racing de Avellaneda, San Lorenzo - Huracán, (or Vélez in some cases) Newell's Old Boys - Rosario Central, (Rosario) Belgrano - Talleres, (Cordoba) Gimnasia - Estudiantes (La Plata)... Some rivalries have very dark stories, which often involve fan deaths at battles, a fact which induced to some laws to prevent visitor spectators in lower division matches.
*** Brazil is just as bad with this. In a few cases, a team has many regional rivals (both Rio and São Paulo have 4 big teams). Some supporters create entire websites on dissing the rival. And like in Argentina, the "classic matches" always have fights, sometimes with people dying.
*** In national teams, Argentina - Brazil and Argentina - Uruguay can count in South America, although the latter is considered a friendly rivalry. Overseas, the rivalry is with England. Hoo boy...
*** If you thought that being a Chilean soccer fan would be less, uhm, complicated... you are wrong. Never ever put fans of either Colo Colo, Universidad Catolica and/or Universidad de Chile in the same room. In few minutes or even seconds, someone's gonna get ''at least'' yelled at. And few later, someone '''will''' get beaten up. And in regards, to "classic matches", ''specially'' Colo Colo vs. U. de Chile... yeah, people have died too.
** Real Madrid and FC Barcelona. This one is frickin' ''global'': scuffles over the game have been reported as far afield as Cape Town and Ramallah.
** Figure skaters versus hockey players. [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal 'Tis totally true, tropers.]]
** In Egypt, the rivalry is between Al-Ahly vs. Zamalek. This one had class connotations--Al-Ahly (literally, "the National" Club) was founded by Egyptians, for Egyptians, while Zamalek was founded by a group of expatriates and some wealthier locals--but this element has subsided over time. Nevertheless, games between the two--called the "Cairo Derby" as both teams are based in the capital--can lead to some serious rioting/crazy street-celebration, particularly since the Ultras Ahlawy group got started in 2007; their antics forced the CAF to have the game against Wydad Casablanca in the 2011 African Champions League to be played in an empty stadium.
* College-frickin'-football (American), especially in the Midwest and South.
** Red River Rivalry. Anyone from Texas or Oklahoma will know exactly what I am talking about before they even click the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rivalry link]].
** The Lone Star Showdown between University of Texas and Texas A&M University. Relatively civil over the past couple of decades, which leads some fans from each side to campaign to "bring back the hate".
*** Or you could always [[[TakeAThirdOption support Texas Tech and the Red Raiders]], although Tech vs. U. Of Texas is the main rivalry for Red Raider fans.
** The classic: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan-Ohio_State_rivalry The University of Michigan and The Ohio State University]], quite possibly the oldest rivalry among BCS teams (the Ivy League's rivalries are older, but they're not in contention anymore). Not half as interesting as it used to be, since U-M has been emphasizing academics so heavily and its sports teams have lately started to suck, but wearing red and gray in Ann Arbor will get you catcalls in the daytime and could get you into a scrape during the drunken nights. On the other hand, wearing maize and blue in Columbus is a capital offense.
*** True story: one of the biggest dancesport events in the US is Ohio Star Ball, held in Columbus every November. It includes collegeiate team comptition. It almost always overlaps the UM/OSU game. Members of the Michigan ''ballroom team'' have gotten catcalled and threatened for wearing their team jackets, even in the covention center where the competition takes place!
*** O-H!
*** Michigan/Michigan State isn't as big a rivalry as Michigan/Ohio State, but you'd never know that as a kid growing up in the Detroit area. It's been known to split families in two on the day of the game. It's even gotten to the point where guards are posted around Sparty (Michigan State's mascot) whenever Michigan comes to play, since Michigan fans will sometimes paint a little golden M (the Michigan logo) on his bottom, and Ann Arbor (where Michigan is located) will have blue and gold street signs (everywhere else in the area has green and white street signs, but green and white are Michigan State's official colors while blue and gold or Michigan's colors).
** But neither of these can compare to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Bowl the Iron Bowl]], the rivalry between the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Auburn Tigers. Fans of the winning team have been known to ''burn the score of the game into the lawns of neighbors who support the losing team'' to rub it in. Or worse. [[http://www.ajc.com/sports/auburn-tree-killing-the-841586.html An Alabama fan was arrested for poisoning some trees]] on the Auburn campus.
** Brigham Young University vs the University of Utah. Take all the usual college rivalry elements as noted above, then add some religion to the mix. BYU is owned by the LDS (Mormon) Church, the U is run by the state of Utah. Many BYU fans consider the U to be a secular, sin-ridden, anti-religious school. Many U fans consider BYU to be an academically inferior, self-righteous indoctrination camp. Neither side quite knows what to make of the fact that Brigham Young founded ''both'' schools, or that the two most recent presidents of the LDS Church graduated from the U.
* Most Baltimore Ravens fans had no doubt who they were rooting for in Super Bowl XLIV - Colts hate has run deep ever since the former ''Baltimore'' Colts infamously packed up at midnight to rush them over to their new home in Indianapolis. There's also a less entrenched Ravens/Titans rivalry.
** Um... what about Ravens/Steelers? THAT can get nasty quickly. This is due to the fact that this feud is the SpiritualSuccessor to the original Cleveland Browns/Steelers rivalry (Art Modell was the founder of both the Browns and Ravens, and he moved his team and the staff to Baltimore in 1996. However, the city of Cleveland retained the Browns' history, records, championships, team colors, etc.).
** Simularly, the Houston Texans vs. Tennessee Titans (a.k.a. the former Houston Oilers). The name Bud Adams will garner nothing but absolute contempt in Houston, TX.
** Also Houston vs. Dallas in '''''anything'''''.
** The whole NFC East (Giants, Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles) ''despises'' each other, to the point where it's hard to pick the biggest rivalry, but it's probably Dallas and Washington. The intra-divisional rivalry is so bitter that many fans of a particular team count an otherwise dismal season a success if their favorites beat their most hated rival in both outings.
** Minnesota Vikings vs. Green Bay Packers, Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears, and even Minnesota Vikings vs. Chicago Bears. The [[EveryYearTheyFizzleOut Detroit]] [[ButtMonkey Lions]] aren't really treated as a legitimate threat by these teams, either.
* Another is the New York Yankees vs. the Boston Red Sox. The history is rife with player drama, the "David vs. Goliath" overtones, and divides within ''single states'' like Connecticut.
** While we're at it, Boston seems to be the center for a lot of American Pro Sports' biggest rivalries. In addition to Sox-Yankees, there's Celtics-Lakers, Patriots-Colts (often boiled down to Brady-Manning) and the extremely bitter Bruins-Canadiens. For the most part, Red Sox/Celtics/Patriots players don't take their respective rivalries nearly as seriously as the fans. With the Bruins and Canadiens...there will be fighting majors. Lots of them. And blood.
*** Canadiens fans have gone as far as booing the US national anthem when facing the Bruins in a playoff game in Montreal. It wasn't the first time. The media, the Canadiens coach and the Canadiens players all slammed them for it.
*** Someone hasn't seen the insanity of The Old Firm...
* And is only paying attention to pro sports. Seriously, nothing, not even Yankees-Red Sox, can compare to some of the rivalries found at the college level. The best examples I can think of off the top of my head (some already mentioned) are North Carolina-Duke, Ohio State-Michigan, and Alabama-Auburn. There are plenty of others, but then this list would go on forever--and honestly, those three are probably all you need to know. Oh, but of course, the ''real'' way to start a fight is to give an opinion on which ''conference'' is the best.
** BCS. Never before have three letters brought such rage in collegiate sports. And that's just if you support a college from automatic-qualifying conference. Supporting a non-AQ college means those letters mean [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney something]] [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem else]] [[ScrewTheRulesIHaveConnections entirely...]]
*** Unless you want to start a rivalry about rivalries, you'd better add Florida-Florida State to that list.
*** College football teams in Florida other than the Gators tend to dislike the Gators, as they have a rivalry with the Hurricanes and the Seminoles.
** The North Carolina-Duke rivalry is so strong that when somebody wrote a book about it, it was titled ''To Hate Like This Is To Be Happy Forever''. A lot of fans on both sides took one look at that title and went, "Yep."
*** The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill versus North Carolina State University rivalry can get pretty intense, too. On a side note, there is some weirdly enthusiastic rivalry between UNC-A and UNC-CH...
*** Alabama State and A&M for the SWAC division (the bands too).
* Los Angeles Dodgers and San Fransisco Giants, anyone? People have '''died''' over it.
** Absolutely, its the oldest rivalry in professional American sports, one that began in New York and simultaneously encompassed the cultural rivalry between Brooklyn (the Dodgers) and Manhattan (the Giants), and was transplanted to the opposite coast, where it once again encompassed the cultural rivalry between LosAngeles and SanFrancisco.
* Just in ''Northern'' California, there's San Francisco vs. Oakland. Seen in both baseball (Giants/A's) and football (Forty-Niners/Raiders). I own a cap with the logos of both baseball teams on it, and the last time I wore it to a game between the two I heard calls to "Get off the fence!"
** And don't forget the Chicago teams - the rivalry between the Cubs and the White Sox runs deep. Like to the point where the PD breaks out the mounted riot police when they two teams play each other each season.
* Speaking of Chicago, there is no love lost between the Cubs and St. Louis Cardinals. It can either be this or FriendlyRivalry depending on the season. A lesser known rivalry with the Cardinals is the Kansas City Royals, forming an in-state rivalry ever since the 1985 World Series.
** Chicago and St. Louis' other rivalry has heated up in recent years. The Blues and Blackhawks fans aren't really keen of one another. One of the burning points in the 40+ year rivalry was in the 1992-93 NHL playoffs. Heavily favoured to win the series, Chicago wound up getting swept by the Blues in the Clarence Campbell quarterfinals.
* There are also the whole Football versus American Football debates that crop up from time to time. Usually with Americans calling "soccer" a silly non-sport and Europeans accusing Football of being a mindless and incredibly slow waste of time.
** In Australia, it's a four-way rivalry between AustralianRulesFootball, RugbyLeague, RugbyUnion and Soccer. The Aussie Rules vs Soccer aspect has recently been exacerbated by the AFL denying Soccer the use of [[strike:Docklands Stadium]] [[strike:Colonial Stadium]] [[strike:Telstra Dome]] Etihad Stadium should Australia host the World Cup.
** Also Football (a "gentleman's game played by hooligans") vs. Rugby ("a hooligan's game played by gentlemen").
** Also Rugby Union vs. Rugby League (yet another conflict with socio-regional roots).
* In UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts:
** The sport of MMA was founded on the idea of rivalries between various martial arts styles. The UFC was originally marketed as the ultimate test to determine which style is "the best." Even as the sport of MMA has evolved and fighters now crosstrain styles, there is still a lingering rivarly between fighters with a jiu-jitsu background and those with a wrestling background.
** Fans of Pride versus fans of the UFC. During the early 2000's, Pride fans repeatedly insisted that Pride featured superior fighters, more exciting action and a better presentation. They often looked down their noses as UFC fighters, whom they considered second rate, and UFC fans, whom they considered ignorant. UFC fans often responded by accusing Pride fighters of using Steroids and criticizing the show's fondness for "freak show" matches. Things came to a head when the UFC bought Pride and shipped most of its big names into the Octagon, where they achieved mixed success. Three years after the last Pride show, internet fans are still dusting off the rivalry.
* Even HorseRacing fans get into this. The biggest split is between those who think [[CoolHorse Man O' War]] was the Greatest Racehorse Ever (won 20 out of 21 starts, never finished below second place, would have won the Triple Crown if his owner had run him in the Derby, carried truly massive handicap weights) and those who think Film/{{Secretariat}} is the Greatest Racehorse Ever (Triple Crown winner, won 16 out of 21 starts, with 3 second-place finishes, one third, and one fourth, broke pretty much every standing race and track record he came across including those of all three Triple Crown races, and perhaps most famously, broke the Belmont Park all-time track record by ''two-and-a-fifths seconds'' [[hottip:*:For non-racing fans, breaking a record by 1/5 of a second is the norm. 2/5 is a bit rarer. Two whole seconds is ''unheard'' of.]] while winning his Belmont by ''thirty. one. lengths''). The arguments can get [[InternetBackdraft rather heated]].
* In AustralianRulesFootball, the AFL has its share of rivalries, with the biggest probably being the MeleeATrois between Carlton, Collingwood and Essendon fans. A famous incident occurred after Collingwood beat Essendon in the 1990 grand final, their first premiership win since 1958. When Carlton played Essendon the next year, Carlton's banner, riffing on Essendon sponsor TAC's slogan, read "If you lose to Collingwood in a Grand Final, you're a bloody idiot." (Carlton had beaten Collingwood in three grand finals between 1958 and 1990).
** An incident that is not as famous but probably [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome even more awesome]] occurred between fans of Williamstown and Port Melbourne in the old VFA competition. The two suburbs were located on opposite sides of the mouth of the Yarra River, and a massive old cannon battery sat on the Williamstown foreshore, pointing out to Port Phillip Bay. Williamstown fans managed to ''turn the cannon battery around'' so that it pointed directly at Port Melbourne's home ground.
** Collingwood versus everybody else is a good one. Last grand final, there were the Saints supporters, the Collingwood supporters, and the ABCs - the Anyone But Collingwood's.
* {{NASCAR}} vs. IndyCar vs. FormulaOne
** And within NASCAR there are the following:
*** Jeff Gordon vs. Dale Earnhardt (both Sr. and Jr.)
*** Jeff Gordon vs. Jimmie Johnson
*** Kyle Busch vs. Kevin Harvick
*** Hendrick vs. Roush vs. Gibbs vs. Childress
*** Chevy vs. Ford
** Within Formula 1 the bitterest rivalry is probably McLaren vs Ferrari; major bouts include 1976 (Hunt vs Lauda), 1985 (Alboreto vs Prost), 1998-2000 (Schumacher vs Hakkinen) and 2007-2008 (Alonso & Hamilton vs Raikkonen & Massa). The whole thing seems to have peaked in 2007 when the "Stepneygate" scandal led to McLaren getting booted out of the championship that year thanks to some stolen Ferrari documents, after which both parties apparently stepped back and asked themselves, "What the hell are we doing?" As Mike Doodson wrote for the grandprix.com website:
---> '''There was also a time when McLaren men would have respected their rivals enough not to laugh at them. But after the happenings in recent months, that respect has gone. They laughed at them. At McLaren there is a new F-word these days. Ferrari.'''
* Any NHL teams within relative proximity of each other get a lot of this. It's even worse [[CanadaEh in Canada]]. Particularly bad rivalries include:
** Toronto/Montreal
** Calgary/Edmonton
** Toronto/Ottawa
** Calgary/Vancouver
** Detroit/Chicago
* Ford vs Holden in Australia's V8 Supercars (which spills over to their road cars, as mentioned in "other"). As the SportInAustralia page put it:
-> Your allegiance to one or the other is expected to be absolute and uncompromising. Mention that your favourite brand is [[TakeAThirdOption BMW, for example]], and you’ll be thought of as a wanker at best, and a traitor to your country at worst. Wistful recollections about ‘Godzilla’ (the Nissan Skyline R32), however, are acceptable.
* The NBA, of course, has Boston Celtics/Los Angeles Lakers. The two most storied franchises in the history of the sport, and still both perennial contenders in their respective conferences- meaning that they meet in the Finals a lot.
** The state of Florida has Orlando Magic vs. Miami Heat. The Heat now have a whole new rivalry with the Cleveland Cavaliers, since [=LeBron=] James [[InternetBackdraft controversially]] left the latter to join the former. Also, Texas has a three-way fight between Houston, Dallas and San Antonio.
* Figure skating. First of all, many people will say it's not really a sport because it involves fancy costumes and music and subjective judging, and a lot of other people who point out the huge amount of athleticism required to be a figure skater, along with the sport's inclusion in the Winter Olympics. And of course within the figure skating fandom, there are huge fights over which skaters are best (often based on which countries they represent), and no matter who wins, someone is going to say that they didn't really deserve it. Also, [[BrokenBase the new judging system, the quadruple jump, and whether you love or hate ice dancing.]]
* NBA (Basketball) vs. NHL (Hockey) [[{{Archenemy}} hate each other]] like Rugby hates Soccer in other parts in the world. It gets to the point where Basketball fans in Boston would rather support the New York Knicks, than their own Bruins team, (Vice-Versa, with Bruins fans rather support the Rangers than their Celtics).
* How about ''ProfessionalWrestling'' fans vs ''MMA'', and ''Boxing'' fans.

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