History FanFic / Embers

27th Jan '18 10:50:35 PM blackswan
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* BerserkButton: Lying, for Zuko [[spoiler:and dragons/dragon-descended firebenders in general. Given that dragons communicate with emotions and pictures, (canon examples include Fang touching Aang with a whisker to give him visions, as well as Ran and Shao's rainbow fire), not words, most likely only psychopathic 'dark' dragons would be able to manage it, and]] Azula lies as easily as she breathes, without feeling any emotions about it as far as Toph can tell. If the ability to lie meant someone was evil in some species, it'd start ringing instinctive alarm bells very, very quickly.

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* BerserkButton: Lying, BerserkButton:
**Lying,
for Zuko [[spoiler:and [[spoiler: and dragons/dragon-descended firebenders in general. Given that dragons communicate with emotions and pictures, (canon examples include Fang touching Aang with a whisker to give him visions, as well as Ran and Shao's rainbow fire), not words, most likely only psychopathic 'dark' dragons would be able to manage it, and]] Azula lies as easily as she breathes, without feeling any emotions about it as far as Toph can tell. If the ability to lie meant someone was evil in some species, it'd start ringing instinctive alarm bells very, very quickly.quickly.
**Being told to give up his katana is one for Langxue. It belonged to his dead mother and in Kyoshi island, it is considered a woman's weapon, anyone that told him to give it up ended on the receiving end of a teenage waterbender's ire. Aang also tells Langxue to give up his sword because as an airbender he can't use weapons. It ticks of Langxue, who up to that point had been trying to convince Zuko to give Aang another chance. After that little discussion Langxue fully agrees with Zuko that Aang is an idiot and a brat and angrily tells Iroh that he will not be teaching Aang anything. This might be compounded by the fact that Langxue was once a water-fire yaoren as Hyourin and to a child of fire it would be unthinkable not to take up a weapon.
27th Jan '18 3:56:10 PM blackswan
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** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."

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** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."" "Byakko remembers."
12th Jan '18 6:20:16 PM nombretomado
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Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].

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Please refrain from {{Justifying Administrivia/{{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].
30th Oct '17 6:49:11 AM Kalaong
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* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).

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* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted portrayed as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet ''war criminal''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).
27th Oct '17 5:39:05 AM Kalaong
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* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).
19th Aug '17 10:05:41 PM fsdfsdfsd
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*** This one is later explained, as [[spoiler: Kesuk was killed by Asagitatsu- a sacred volcano which explicitly has the power to kill a rampaging Avatar '''without''' destroying the Avatar Cycle.]]
13th Jul '17 1:02:42 AM Doug86
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** ASongOfIceAndFire: "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."

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** ASongOfIceAndFire: ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."
9th Jun '17 12:00:30 AM BonUs
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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].

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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] deconstruct the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].
9th Jun '17 12:00:13 AM BonUs
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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that [[HateFic attempts to deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].

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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that [[HateFic attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].
20th May '17 4:34:40 PM Mythtaken
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Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[JustBugsMe/{{Embers}} the It Just Bugs Me page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].

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Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[JustBugsMe/{{Embers}} [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the It Just Bugs Me Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].
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