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** Dr. Yi Suchong. In ''Literature/BioShockRapture'', he utterly fails to recognize Brigid Tenenbaum's HeelFaceTurn. In contrast, Ryan and Fontaine are at least able to understand Tenenbaum's change of conscience. The same book also makes him a literal case since he doesn't even know the meaning of the word "Conscience" due to considering it unimportant while learning English.

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** Dr. Yi Suchong. In ''Literature/BioShockRapture'', he utterly fails to recognize Brigid Tenenbaum's HeelFaceTurn. In contrast, Ryan and Fontaine are at least able to understand Tenenbaum's change of conscience. The same book also makes him a literal case since he doesn't even know the meaning of the English word "Conscience" due to considering it unimportant while learning English.(though he probably knows the meaning of its Korean equivalent, 'yangsim') because he didn't bother teaching himself that part of the language.
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** A milder example occurs with Andrew Ryan, who seems to be incapable of understanding selflessness or even believing that it truly exists. "In the end, all that matters to you is you, and all that matters to me is me. It is the nature of things." He says this regardless of whether you've made selfish decisions up to this point or not. Tellingly, Ryan also admits that he cannot 'raise a hand' against his own flesh and blood, further playing into the hypocrisy of his own belief system.

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** A milder example occurs with Andrew Ryan, who seems to be incapable of understanding selflessness or even believing that it truly exists. "In the end, all that matters to you is you, and all that matters to me is me. It is the nature of things." He says this regardless of whether you've made selfish decisions up to this point or not. Tellingly, Ryan also admits that he cannot 'raise a hand' against his own flesh and blood, further playing into the hypocrisy of his own belief system. Ironically, Fontaine initially gained much of his power base because he ''did'' understand good better than Ryan; he gained the goodwill and support of Rapture's workers because unlike Ryan, he knew that [[BecauseYouWereNiceToMe being nice to them]], even if it was ultimately an act, would earn their loyalty.
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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', Cyrus's conviction that [[StrawNihilist the nature of human spirit is what is wrong with the universe]] leaves him dumbfounded that you would stop him from [[OmnicidalManiac destroying reality]] to remake it into a WorldOfSilence InTheirOwnImage. In ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' he's convinced that confronting Giratina will result in the destruction of the [[VoidBetweenTheWorlds Distortion World]] keeping spacetime in balance and declares the player to be the "inheritor of [his] legacy", not realizing [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu their goal is to simply befriend it]].

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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', Cyrus's conviction that [[StrawNihilist the nature of human spirit is what is wrong with the universe]] leaves him dumbfounded that you would stop him from [[OmnicidalManiac destroying reality]] to remake it into a WorldOfSilence InTheirOwnImage. In ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' Platinum]]'', he's convinced that confronting Giratina will result in the destruction of the [[VoidBetweenTheWorlds Distortion World]] keeping spacetime in balance and declares the player to be the "inheritor of [his] legacy", not realizing [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu their goal is to simply befriend it]].



*** This was ultimately Ghetsis' downfall. [[spoiler:His own dialog shows he personally believed everyone saw Pokemon as tools, just as he did. Because of this, he allows his son N to encounter Pokemon that had a truly caring relationship with their trainers, causing N to question Team Plasma's cause and befriend the player character, whom Ghetsis continuously underestimates because he doesn't believe they ''can'' behave selflessly and/or care about their Pokemon. As a result, the player acquires the other legendary dragon, defeats N, and for a nice bonus personally curbstomps Ghetsis with ThePowerOfFriendship. Cue [[VillainousBreakdown screaming breakdown]].]]
*** Ghetsis loses it again in the sequels, where he insists to himself aloud, on-screen, that Pokemon ([[spoiler:and "that inhuman freak" N]]) aren't sentient and so ''can't'' hate him, only [[ItsAllAboutMe serve him]]. Right in front of two trainers, at least half a dozen Pokemon, two legendary dragons, [[spoiler:and one "inhuman freak"]], [[{{Understatement}} none of whom agree with him]]. He doesn't care for Colress's research verifying ThePowerOfFriendship, despite having personally hired Colress to study how best to make Pokemon powerful [[spoiler:and lead Team Plasma in his stead]].
*** In ''Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'', [[spoiler:Ghetsis believes that [[CardCarryingVillain Giovanni]], whom he describes as "a man of pure evil" (much like himself), would be easier for him to use and manipulate than [[AllLovingHero N]].]]

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*** This was ultimately Ghetsis' downfall. [[spoiler:His own dialog shows he personally believed everyone saw Pokemon Pokémon as tools, just as he did. Because of this, he allows his son N to encounter Pokemon Pokémon that had a truly caring relationship with their trainers, causing N to question Team Plasma's cause and befriend the player character, whom Ghetsis continuously underestimates because he doesn't believe they ''can'' behave selflessly and/or care about their Pokemon.Pokémon. As a result, the player acquires the other legendary dragon, defeats N, and for a nice bonus personally curbstomps Ghetsis with ThePowerOfFriendship. Cue [[VillainousBreakdown screaming breakdown]].]]
*** Ghetsis loses it again in [[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 the sequels, sequels]], where he insists to himself aloud, on-screen, that Pokemon Pokémon ([[spoiler:and "that inhuman freak" N]]) aren't sentient and so ''can't'' hate him, only [[ItsAllAboutMe serve him]]. Right him]]... right in front of two trainers, at least half a dozen Pokemon, Pokémon, two legendary dragons, [[spoiler:and one "inhuman freak"]], [[{{Understatement}} none of whom agree with him]]. He doesn't care for Colress's research verifying ThePowerOfFriendship, despite having personally hired Colress to study how best to make Pokemon Pokémon powerful [[spoiler:and lead Team Plasma in his stead]].
*** In ''Ultra ''[[VideoGame/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon'', Moon]]'', [[spoiler:Ghetsis believes that [[CardCarryingVillain Giovanni]], whom he describes as "a man of pure evil" (much like himself), would be easier for him to use and manipulate than [[AllLovingHero N]].]]



** M.Bison having discarded all goodness from his soul naturally can't fathom any heroism or goodness from the World Warriors. This is best demonstrated in ''A Shadow Falls'' during the final fight with Ryu when Bison demands to know about Mu no Ken the power Ryu used to defeat Necali.

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** M.Bison Bison, having discarded all goodness from his soul soul, naturally can't fathom any heroism or goodness from the World Warriors. This is best demonstrated during the final fight with Ryu in ''A Shadow Falls'' during the final fight with Ryu , when Bison demands to know about Mu no Ken Ken, the power Ryu used to defeat Necali.



** Vega TheFightingNarcissist considers beauty the only thing of value in life and everything short of that is ugly and weak. Many of the heroes (especially Chun-Li) point out to Vega in their win quotes against him that his callousness and sadism makes his soul just as hideous on the inside as fair as he is on the outside.
** Juri Han can't comprehend anything beyond fighting, hurting people and the [[CombatSadomasochist pleasure]] she gets from both those things. She only gets disgusted at AllLovingHero Elena offering to be her friend, saying she only wants "playthings". In ''A Shadow Falls'' Juri gets super annoyed at Rashid (another benevolent hero) refusing to fight her saying if he won't then he can just die showing how much violence dictates her life. Also, at the sight of Cammy being forced to knock out her BrainwashedAndCrazy sister Decapre she just cruelly laughs "at the show".
** Akuma while a NobleDemon at his best, still failures to understand why his brother Gouken and Ryu choose the non-murderous variant of the Ansatsuken. He is also baffled at why Ryu rejects TheDarkSide i.e Satsui no Hado as he can't imagine a martial arts life based on benevolence rather than strength. In ''[=SFV=]'' after beating Ryu, Akuma just gets confused and angry over Ryu smiling while laying on the ground and disregards the wisdom Ryu tries to impart, since it doesn't gel with his power-guided philosophy.
** Both DarkMessiah Gill and TheDragon Urien from TheIlluminati can't comprehend the wholesome qualities of others in relation to themselves, only deeming them as [[VirtueIsWeakness weak and pointless]]. Urien is forthright in his non-understanding of goodness, he claims to [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Anakaris]] that respect from subjects is useless for a ruler. In ''A Shadow Falls'' when Rashid prevents him from killing Charlie who rightly points out he's already beat him, Urien disregards Rashid's words only infuriated that a "commoner" like Rashid dares touch him. Gill isn't too better as for all his seraphic mannerisms, [[LightIsNotGood he still looks down his nose at genuine goodness]]. In ''[=SFV=]'' he considers [[VideoGame/RivalSchools Akira]]'s desires for justice and to protect loved ones as nothing more than "trite passions" and writes off Ibuki's desire to find friends and love as "mere trivialities".

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** Vega TheFightingNarcissist Vega, TheFightingNarcissist, considers beauty the only thing of value in life life, and everything short of that is ugly and weak. Many of the heroes (especially Chun-Li) point out to Vega in their win quotes against him that his callousness and sadism makes his soul just as hideous on the inside as fair as he is on the outside.
** Juri Han can't comprehend anything beyond fighting, hurting people and the [[CombatSadomasochist pleasure]] she gets from both those things. She only gets disgusted at AllLovingHero Elena offering to be her friend, saying she only wants "playthings". In ''A Shadow Falls'' Falls'', Juri gets super annoyed at Rashid (another benevolent hero) refusing to fight her saying if he won't then he can just die die, showing how much violence dictates her life. Also, at the sight of Cammy being forced to knock out her BrainwashedAndCrazy sister Decapre Decapre, she just cruelly laughs "at the show".
** Akuma Akuma, while a NobleDemon at his best, still failures fails to understand why his brother Gouken and Ryu choose the non-murderous variant of the Ansatsuken. He is also baffled at why Ryu rejects TheDarkSide i.e Satsui no Hado Hado, as he can't imagine a martial arts life based on benevolence rather than strength. In ''[=SFV=]'' after beating Ryu, Akuma just gets confused and angry over Ryu smiling while laying on the ground and disregards the wisdom Ryu tries to impart, since it doesn't gel with his power-guided philosophy.
** Both DarkMessiah Gill and TheDragon Urien from TheIlluminati can't comprehend the wholesome qualities of others in relation to themselves, only deeming them as [[VirtueIsWeakness weak and pointless]]. Urien is so forthright in his non-understanding of goodness, he claims to [[VideoGame/{{Darkstalkers}} Anakaris]] that respect from subjects is useless for a ruler. In ''A Shadow Falls'' Falls'', when Rashid prevents him from killing Charlie who --who rightly points out he's already beat him, beaten him-- Urien disregards Rashid's words words, only infuriated that a "commoner" like Rashid dares touch him. Gill isn't too better as for all his seraphic mannerisms, [[LightIsNotGood he still looks down his nose at genuine goodness]]. In ''[=SFV=]'' ''[=SFV=]'', he considers [[VideoGame/RivalSchools Akira]]'s desires for justice and to protect loved ones as nothing more than "trite passions" and writes off Ibuki's desire to find friends and love as "mere trivialities".
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*** Shinra Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shinra board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in the remake President Shinra as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic fervor.

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*** Shinra Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shinra board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations connotations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in actions. In the remake ''Remake'', President Shinra as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic patriotic fervor.
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*** Shinra Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shrina board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in the remake President Shrina as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic fervor.

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*** Shinra Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shrina Shinra board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in the remake President Shrina Shinra as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic fervor.
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*** Shrina Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shrina board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in the remake President Shrina as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic fervor.

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*** Shrina Shinra Electric Power Company from ''VII'' also can't comprehend any goodness on any level, Reeve the TokenGoodTeammate of the Shrina board is taken aback that they aren't even bothering to rebuild Sector 7 after destroying it and killing everyone in it. They also don't see any negative conations draining the Lifestream from the planet and only consider AVALANCHE's attempts to stop them as mere terrorist actions, in the remake President Shrina as even tries to frame AVALANCHE as agents of the enemy nation Wutai under the hopeful assumption it would stir up parotic fervor.
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** As with Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a dim view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and brushes off any indication that she could be in the wrong side of things. Her Prime counterpart chides her for her cynicism, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Prime Wonder Woman even states how her Regime counterpart doesn't realize how her [[LadyMacbeth manipulative]] nature has corrupted Regime Superman.

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** As with Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a dim view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and brushes off any indication the idea that she could be in the wrong side of things.wrong. Her Prime counterpart chides her for her cynicism, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Prime Wonder Woman even states how her Regime counterpart doesn't realize how her [[LadyMacbeth manipulative]] nature has corrupted Regime Superman.
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* ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedValhalla:'' In their BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, [[spoiler:Odin]] rages at Eivor's attempt to walk away, screaming that with them Eivor will gain power and glory, and asking what they could possibly want apart from that. Eivor choses their family, or as they put it "everything else". [[spoiler:The final part of the storyline suggests Odin did ''eventually'' start to get Eivor's point, some years later.]]

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* ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'': While more of a [[TheHedonist hedonistic]] BloodKnight than actually evil, Augus, as shown in a flashback, can't seem to understand that Asura fights to protect his family; as far as he's concerned, the ''only'' reason to fight is for the sake of fighting.

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* ''VideoGame/AsurasWrath'': While more of a [[TheHedonist hedonistic]] BloodKnight than actually evil, Augus, as shown in a flashback, can't seem to understand that Asura fights to protect his family; as far as he's concerned, the ''only'' reason to fight is for the sake of ofr fighting.


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** In ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvilVillage Village]]'', Heisenberg tries to convince Ethan to join forces with him against BigBad [[spoiler:Mother Miranda]], but is unable to make the one argument that would have convinved Ethan (killing the BigBad to get them out of Rose's life forever) because he's unable to think in terms of "for Rose's sake".

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* Despite his alchemical and tactical genius, Hazama/Yuuki Terumi from ''Videogame/BlazBlue'' either considers the spirit of goodness (and what motivates people into doing good) a means to [[ManipulativeBastard use people to serve his whims]] ([[spoiler:like Litchi and Tsubaki]]) or considers it shitty and boring, if he understands it at all. In the ''Slight Hope'' story from Extend, however, this bites him square in the ass. [[spoiler:He was merrily carrying out his plans in the ''Wheel of Fortune'' timeline when Makoto Nanaya fell in from the ''Continuum Shift'' timeline, and when she got beat up after parrying a hit on Jin, he dismissed her as merely a "damned squirrel" best left to Relius. Between that incident, honesty to Tager and Kokonoe regarding her intentions, trusting Bang with rescuing Jin, and counseling Tsubaki (and asking her about the unknown-to-Makoto nonexistent Noel Vermillion), she [[SpannerInTheWorks altered the timeline in a way that caused Hazama's plans to implode]] -- even he was forced to admit asking Tsubaki about Noel caused it to self-destruct. Given his assassination attempt on her in ''Continuum Shift'' proper, which takes place days later, he has never forgiven her for this insult.]] And yet, despite all that, it has done ''nothing'' to his opinion on goodness, much less make him stop acting like scum. All he really learned is to let his buddy Relius take care of her... [[spoiler:so when Relius walked off the board, enough of Terumi's chances of victory went with him that even retaking the Susano'o unit was no guarantee of success; even if Makoto herself was dragged off the board by Es, her actions gave the heroes the opening they needed to end Terumi for good.]]

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* Despite his alchemical and tactical genius, Hazama/Yuuki Terumi from ''Videogame/BlazBlue'' ''Franchise/BlazBlue'' either considers the spirit of goodness (and what motivates people into doing good) a means to [[ManipulativeBastard use people to serve his whims]] ([[spoiler:like Litchi and Tsubaki]]) or considers it shitty and boring, if he understands it at all. In the ''Slight Hope'' story from Extend, however, this bites him square in the ass. [[spoiler:He was merrily carrying out his plans in the ''Wheel of Fortune'' timeline when Makoto Nanaya fell in from the ''Continuum Shift'' timeline, and when she got beat up after parrying a hit on Jin, he dismissed her as merely a "damned squirrel" best left to Relius. Between that incident, honesty to Tager and Kokonoe regarding her intentions, trusting Bang with rescuing Jin, and counseling Tsubaki (and asking her about the unknown-to-Makoto nonexistent Noel Vermillion), she [[SpannerInTheWorks altered the timeline in a way that caused Hazama's plans to implode]] -- even he was forced to admit asking Tsubaki about Noel caused it to self-destruct. Given his assassination attempt on her in ''Continuum Shift'' proper, which takes place days later, he has never forgiven her for this insult.]] And yet, despite all that, it has done ''nothing'' to his opinion on goodness, much less make him stop acting like scum. All he really learned is to let his buddy Relius take care of her... [[spoiler:so when Relius walked off the board, enough of Terumi's chances of victory went with him that even retaking the Susano'o unit was no guarantee of success; even if Makoto herself was dragged off the board by Es, her actions gave the heroes the opening they needed to end Terumi for good.]]



* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyroDawnOfTheDragon'': When subtitled, Malefor is clearly caught off guard when [[spoiler:Cynder is freed from his mind control by ThePowerOfLove]]. In the entire battle, this is about the only thing that actually seems to truly surprise him.



* ''VideoGame/SoulCaliburV'': Final Boss [[LightisNotGood Elysium]], the soul of [[UnholyHolySword Soul Calibur]] cannot understand why anti-hero turned [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome true hero]] Patroklos refuses to kill his sister Pyrrha even though she's become a [[DemonicPossession Malfested]]. After she is slain in the final battle, her last words are "I don't understand."
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyroDawnOfTheDragon'': When subtitled, Malefor is clearly caught off guard when [[spoiler:Cynder is freed from his mind control by the PowerOfLove]]. In the entire battle, this is about the only thing that actually seems to truly surprise him.

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* ''VideoGame/SoulCaliburV'': ''VideoGame/SoulcaliburV'': Final Boss [[LightisNotGood Elysium]], the soul of [[UnholyHolySword Soul Calibur]] cannot understand why anti-hero turned [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome true hero]] Patroklos refuses to kill his sister Pyrrha even though she's become a [[DemonicPossession Malfested]]. After she is slain in the final battle, her last words are "I don't understand."
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyroDawnOfTheDragon'': When subtitled, Malefor is clearly caught off guard when [[spoiler:Cynder is freed from his mind control by the PowerOfLove]]. In the entire battle, this is about the only thing that actually seems to truly surprise him.
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** Likewise, in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', the corrupt cops within the [=GCPD=] assume the Joker is Batman's accomplice after Batman decided to SaveTheVillain. Joker himself is utterly confused on why Batman would save him and this confusion is what ends up triggering his life-long obsession with Batman.
*** This trope ends up being the Joker's undoing at the end of ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'': [[spoiler:he taunts Batman on how he will just give him the cure to TITAN poisoning despite all the horrible things he has done since that's just what Batman does. When Batman briefly hesitates, Joker is apparently convinced Batman will let him die after all and stabs him in the shoulder to get the cure. Batman drops the bottle and it smashes on the floor. Batman then tells Joker he would still have saved him, causing Joker to laugh at the irony while he dies.]]

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** Likewise, in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', the corrupt cops within the [=GCPD=] assume the Joker is Batman's accomplice after Batman decided to SaveTheVillain. Joker himself is utterly confused on why Batman would save him and this confusion is what ends up triggering his life-long obsession with Batman.
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This trope ends up being the Joker's undoing at the end of ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'': [[spoiler:he taunts Batman on how he will just give him the cure to TITAN poisoning despite all the horrible things he has done since that's just what Batman does. When Batman briefly hesitates, Joker is apparently convinced Batman will let him die after all and stabs him in the shoulder to get the cure. Batman drops the bottle and it smashes on the floor. Batman then tells Joker he would still have saved him, causing Joker to laugh at the irony while he dies.]]]]
** In ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'', the corrupt cops within the [=GCPD=] assume the Joker is Batman's accomplice after Batman decided to SaveTheVillain. Joker himself is utterly confused on why Batman would save him and this confusion is what ends up triggering his life-long obsession with Batman.
** In ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'', [[spoiler:when Batman's SecretIdentity is revealed to the world, the Penguin believes Bruce Wayne became Batman solely to get back at ''him'' as a result of the "feud" between the Waynes and the Cobblepots (which was mostly one-sided by the latter).]]

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* In ''[[VideoGame/AdvanceWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'', [[TheHedonist Waylon's]] expresses this kind of sentiment at the end of ''Waylon Flies Again''. He simply can not understand why anyone would bother being good, trying to save lives, or trying to improve the world when [[AfterTheEnd everything is destroyed]].
--> '''Waylon:''' I just don't get it! I just don't get people like you! The world's gone, brother! Ain't nothing out there worth fighting for! And yet here you are with your friends and your... hope! I don't get it! You oughta worry about YOU! Just like me!
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-->'''Waylon:''' I just don't get it! I just don't get people like you! The world's gone, brother! Ain't nothing out there worth fighting for! And yet here you are with your friends and your... hope! I don't get it! You oughta worry about YOU! Just like me!\\
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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil breaks the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing the evil Man of Steel [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].
** When others point out that he is scaring people, Superman justifies [[KnightTemplar himself]] by saying that criminals ''should'' be scared, not realizing that they meant [[BewareTheSuperman people in general]]. There are many instances where he [[IgnoredEpiphany wonders]] if he's gone over the edge, only to [[NeverMyFault view]] his new behavior as Batman's fault. He even rants about the public's "ungratefulness" towards his rule [[spoiler:even after people witnessed him kill Luthor]], [[UngratefulBastard ignorant]] of the collateral damage his Regime has caused.
** Like Regime Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a dim view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and brushes off any indication that she could be in the wrong side of things. Her mainstream counterpart tries to knock sense into her, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Multiverse Wonder Woman even points out how her Regime counterpart is ignorant of how her [[LadyMacbeth manipulative]] nature has corrupted Regime Superman.

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil breaks break the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Realizing how evil Superman has become, Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects defects]] to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing the evil Man Tyrant of Steel [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].
** When others point out that he is scaring people, Superman justifies [[KnightTemplar himself]] by saying that criminals ''should'' be scared, not realizing that they meant [[BewareTheSuperman people in general]]. There are many instances where Sevral times, he even [[IgnoredEpiphany wonders]] if he's gone over jumped the edge, abyss, only to [[NeverMyFault view]] his new behavior as Batman's fault. He even rants about the public's "ungratefulness" towards his rule [[spoiler:even after people witnessed him kill Luthor]], [[spoiler:when he killed Luthor on live TV]], [[UngratefulBastard ignorant]] of the collateral damage his Regime has caused.
** Like Regime As with Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a dim view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and brushes off any indication that she could be in the wrong side of things. Her mainstream Prime counterpart tries to knock sense into her, chides her for her cynicism, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Multiverse Prime Wonder Woman even points out states how her Regime counterpart is ignorant of doesn't realize how her [[LadyMacbeth manipulative]] nature has corrupted Regime Superman.



** During his story mode ending, [[FallenHero Superman]] [[spoiler:questions how Green Lantern can be standing against him as Coast City remains trapped in Brainiac's collection, believes the Flash and Green Lantern abandoned the Regime due to a lack of willpower and ignores Supergirl's repeated appeals to his kinder side. Clark's rage has clouded his mind, and his extremism caused Barry and Hal to lose faith in him.]] Also, being too jaded about [[ILetGwenStacyDie losing his wife Lois Lane]] and [[GoodIsOldFashioned traditional superheroics in general]], courtesy of the Joker's nefarious scheme to drive him to a FaceHeelTurn in the [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs previous game]], is what stops him from moving on.

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** During his story mode ending, [[FallenHero Superman]] [[spoiler:questions how Green Lantern can be standing against him as Coast City remains trapped in Brainiac's collection, believes the Flash and Green Lantern abandoned the Regime due to a lack of willpower willpower, and ignores Supergirl's repeated appeals to his kinder side. Clark's rage has clouded his mind, and his extremism caused Barry and Hal to lose faith in him.]] Also, being too jaded about [[ILetGwenStacyDie losing his wife Lois Lane]] Lois]] and [[GoodIsOldFashioned traditional superheroics in general]], courtesy of general]] thanks to the Joker's nefarious scheme to drive him to a FaceHeelTurn villainy in the [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs previous game]], game]] is what stops him from moving on.
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* In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'', one of the Hero Quests involves returning a soldier to Colony 0, which turns out to be a secret black ops unit under direct Moebius control that works behind the scenes of the ForeverWar to keep it running. Its Consul, Moebius F introduces the party to the rest of the unit, in a bid to show good faith to the Ouroboros (as he had agreed to stop sending assassins after them if they brought the soldier back to him). He exalts the Colony's role in the war, which offends the party, especially Sena (who had been bonding with the soldier while she was under their care). F evidently doesn't realise that the Ouroboros are patently against the war's perpetuation on a fundamental level, as he is surprised by this reaction. He insists that he cares about Colony 0's soldiers, singing their praises on how they sacrifice themselves for Moebius in the same breath.

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* ** In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'', one of the Hero Quests involves returning a soldier to Colony 0, which turns out to be a secret black ops unit under direct Moebius control that works behind the scenes of the ForeverWar to keep it running. Its Consul, Moebius F introduces the party to the rest of the unit, in a bid to show good faith to the Ouroboros (as he had agreed to stop sending assassins after them if they brought the soldier back to him). He exalts the Colony's role in the war, which offends the party, especially Sena (who had been bonding with the soldier while she was under their care). F evidently doesn't realise that the Ouroboros are patently against the war's perpetuation on a fundamental level, as he is surprised by this reaction. He insists that he cares about Colony 0's soldiers, singing their praises on how they sacrifice themselves for Moebius in the same breath.
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* ''VideoGame/EarthBound:'' Giygas [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm cannot grasp the true form]] of human emotion.

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* ''VideoGame/EarthBound:'' ''VideoGame/EarthBound1994'': Giygas [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm cannot grasp the true form]] of human emotion.
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* [[spoiler:Flowey]] in the Neutral ending of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'': [[spoiler:After defeating his OneWingedAngel form and freeing the [=SOULs=] he had enslaved, you are given the choice to execute him or spare him. If you choose to spare him, he makes you confirm your choice several times, all the while pointing out that he is the ultimate cause of everything bad that had happened to you, threatening to kill you and everyone you love, and finally screaming that he doesn't understand why you're doing this.]] Mercy, apparently, is a foreign concept to this character. [[spoiler:It's ultimately revealed that as TheSoulless he is outright physically incapable of compassion or any kind of feeling for others.]]

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* [[spoiler:Flowey]] in the Neutral ending of ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'': [[spoiler:After defeating his OneWingedAngel form and freeing the [=SOULs=] he had enslaved, you are given the choice to execute him or spare him. If you choose to spare him, he makes forces you confirm to re-confirm your choice several times, all the while pointing out that he is the ultimate cause of everything bad that had happened to you, threatening and threatens to kill you and everyone you love, love. Continue selecting MERCY, and he'll finally screaming scream that he doesn't understand why you're doing this.this, before running away in tears.]] Mercy, apparently, is a foreign concept to this character. [[spoiler:It's ultimately revealed that that, as TheSoulless he is TheSoulless, Flowey had become outright physically incapable of compassion empathy or any kind of feeling for others.others, and eventually chose to rationalize a "kill or be killed" philosophy.]]
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* A brief scene in ''VideoGame/{{ShadowHearts}}'' shows that the Four Masks -- [[TheHeartless the literal personal demons]] living in the main character, Yuri Hyuga's soul, are utterly bamboozled at his friend/love-interest, Alice Eliot, offering her own soul to spare his. They gladly accept as a soul is a soul to them, but at least one of the four is genuinely curious at the nature of this thing called "love".

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* A brief scene in ''VideoGame/{{ShadowHearts}}'' the original ''VideoGame/ShadowHearts1'' shows that the Four Masks -- [[TheHeartless the literal personal demons]] living in the main character, Yuri Hyuga's soul, are utterly bamboozled at his [[spoiler:his friend/love-interest, Alice Eliot, offering her own soul to spare his. his]]. They gladly accept as a soul is a soul to them, the deal, but at least one of the four is genuinely curious at the nature of this thing called "love".
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* [[BlackMagicianGirl Morrigan]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is quite confused by her feelings of attachment to the Warden, though she eventually does grow to [[DefrostingIceQueen accept them]]. She also tends to be confused by any action that doesn't involve being an utter asshole due to being raised with a StupidEvil mentality by a HumanoidAbomination.

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* [[BlackMagicianGirl Morrigan]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is quite confused by her feelings of attachment to the Warden, though she eventually does grow to [[DefrostingIceQueen accept them]]. She also tends to be confused by any action that doesn't involve being an utter asshole completely selfish due to being raised with a StupidEvil Social Darwinist mentality by a HumanoidAbomination.
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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil break the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing them [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil break breaks the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing them the evil Man of Steel [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].



** Like Regime Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a cynical view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and [[IgnoredEpiphany brushes off any indication]] that she could be totally wrong about the methods she's using. Her mainstream counterpart tries to knock sense into her, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Multiverse Wonder Woman [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech even points out]] how her Regime counterpart is too ignorant to realize just how corrupt Superman has become after his downfall thanks to her manipulative nature.

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** Like Regime Superman, Regime Wonder Woman holds a cynical dim view of traditional superheroics, [[WellIntentionedExtremist honestly believes she's doing the right thing]], and [[IgnoredEpiphany brushes off any indication]] indication that she could be totally in the wrong about the methods she's using.side of things. Her mainstream counterpart tries to knock sense into her, but Regime Wonder Woman refuses to listen. Multiverse Wonder Woman [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech even points out]] out how her Regime counterpart is too ignorant to realize just of how corrupt Superman her [[LadyMacbeth manipulative]] nature has become after his downfall thanks to her manipulative nature.corrupted Regime Superman.
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* In ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'', one of the Hero Quests involves returning a soldier to Colony 0, which turns out to be a secret black ops unit under direct Moebius control that works behind the scenes of the ForeverWar to keep it running. Its Consul, Moebius F introduces the party to the rest of the unit, in a bid to show good faith to the Ouroboros (as he had agreed to stop sending assassins after them if they brought the soldier back to him). He exalts the Colony's role in the war, which offends the party, especially Sena (who had been bonding with the soldier while she was under their care). F evidently doesn't realise that the Ouroboros are patently against the war's perpetuation on a fundamental level, as he is surprised by this reaction. He insists that he cares about Colony 0's soldiers, singing their praises on how they sacrifice themselves for Moebius in the same breath.
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* In ''VideoGame/SoulCaliburV'', Final Boss [[LightisNotGood Elysium]], the soul of [[UnholyHolySword Soul Calibur]] cannot understand why anti-hero turned [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome true hero]] Patroklos refuses to kill his sister Pyrrha even though she's become a [[DemonicPossession Malfested]]. After she is slain in the final battle, her last words are "I don't understand."
* While subtitled, ''Videogame/SpyroTheDragon'''s Malefor is clearly caught off guard when [[spoiler: Cynder is freed from his mind control by the PowerOfLove]]. In the entire battle, this is about the only thing that actually seems to truly surprise him.
* Evil in general doesn't seem to have any real problems with understanding good in ''Videogame/StarControl''. The [[spoiler: Neo-Dnyarri]] gets bitten in the ass by self-serving pointlessly cruel evil not being able to get honourable evil, though: it sends you against the most powerful race in the region to get killed. That would be fine... except that race happens to have been enslaved by [[spoiler: the Dnyarri]] and with the sort of sense of honor that would let you just leave the area unmolested (once) for warning them about the [[spoiler: Dnyarri returning]].

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* In ''VideoGame/SoulCaliburV'', ''VideoGame/SoulCaliburV'': Final Boss [[LightisNotGood Elysium]], the soul of [[UnholyHolySword Soul Calibur]] cannot understand why anti-hero turned [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome true hero]] Patroklos refuses to kill his sister Pyrrha even though she's become a [[DemonicPossession Malfested]]. After she is slain in the final battle, her last words are "I don't understand."
* While ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfSpyroDawnOfTheDragon'': When subtitled, ''Videogame/SpyroTheDragon'''s Malefor is clearly caught off guard when [[spoiler: Cynder [[spoiler:Cynder is freed from his mind control by the PowerOfLove]]. In the entire battle, this is about the only thing that actually seems to truly surprise him.
* ''VideoGame/StarControl'': Evil in general doesn't seem to have any real problems with understanding good in ''Videogame/StarControl''.good. The [[spoiler: Neo-Dnyarri]] gets bitten in the ass by self-serving pointlessly cruel evil not being able to get honourable evil, though: it sends you against the most powerful race in the region to get killed. That would be fine... except that race happens to have been enslaved by [[spoiler: the Dnyarri]] and with the sort of sense of honor that would let you just leave the area unmolested (once) for warning them about the [[spoiler: Dnyarri returning]].



-->'''M.Bison''': You had the power to actually defeat that beast! Now show it to me!
-->'''Ryu''': This power is not to defeat. This is the power to push forward!
-->'''M.Bison''': Humph! Power is just power.

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-->'''M.--->'''M.Bison''': You had the power to actually defeat that beast! Now show it to me!
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'''Ryu''':
This power is not to defeat. This is the power to push forward!
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'', [[spoiler:if Corvo spares Daud, the assassin who murdered his beloved Empress,]] [[HumanoidAbomination the Outsider]] is utterly shocked. This is the ''only'' thing that will surprise the Outsider. It doesn't do anything to change his [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters low opinion of humanity as a whole]]; he merely considers Corvo to be an exception to the rule.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'', [[spoiler:if Corvo spares Daud, the assassin who murdered his beloved Empress,]] Empress]], [[HumanoidAbomination the Outsider]] is utterly shocked. This is the ''only'' thing that will surprise the Outsider. It doesn't do anything to change his [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters low opinion of humanity as a whole]]; he merely considers Corvo to be an exception to the rule.



* [[BlackMagicianGirl Morrigan]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is quite confused by her feelings of attachment to the Warden, though she eventually does grow to [[HeelFaceTurn accept]] [[DefrostingIceQueen them]]. She also tends to be confused by any action that doesn't involve being an utter asshole due to being raised with a StupidEvil mentality by a HumanoidAbomination.

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* [[BlackMagicianGirl Morrigan]] in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins'' is quite confused by her feelings of attachment to the Warden, though she eventually does grow to [[HeelFaceTurn accept]] [[DefrostingIceQueen accept them]]. She also tends to be confused by any action that doesn't involve being an utter asshole due to being raised with a StupidEvil mentality by a HumanoidAbomination.



* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': In the final mission, [[spoiler:Both [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Devin]] [[BigBad Weston]] and [[DirtyCop Steve Haines]] try to browbeat Franklin into killing Michael and Trevor for them, respectively. [[TakeAThirdOption If Franklin picks option C]], he can prove both Steve and Devin wrong by having Michael and Trevor reconcile with each other, before proceeding to destroy their enemies. The three even taunt Devin by giving him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech.]]

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* ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV'': In the final mission, [[spoiler:Both [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Devin]] [[BigBad Devin Weston]] and [[DirtyCop Steve Haines]] try to browbeat Franklin into killing Michael and Trevor for them, respectively. [[TakeAThirdOption If Franklin picks option C]], he can prove both Steve and Devin wrong by having Michael and Trevor reconcile with each other, before proceeding to destroy their enemies. The three even taunt Devin by giving him a ReasonYouSuckSpeech.]]



* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil break the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing the [[FallenHero Tyrant of Steel]] [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].

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* ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'': After the Joker drove them to villainy, Regime Superman and his allies take a hard stance on crime and establish a planet-wide dictatorship, but are opposed by Batman. The Regime has a jaded view on traditional superheroics and even [[PayEvilUntoEvil break the no-kill rule]] to brutally suppress any dissent, but they also don't realize it has [[HeWhoFightsMonsters warped them]] into the very monsters they once opposed. The Flash eventually [[HeelFaceTurn realizes]] just how corrupt Superman has become and defects to Batman's side after [[spoiler:witnessing the [[FallenHero Tyrant of Steel]] them [[WouldHurtAChild kill Shazam]] in cold blood]].



** During his story mode ending, [[FallenHero Superman]] [[spoiler:questions how Green Lantern can be standing against him as Coast City remains trapped in Brainiac's collection, believes the Flash and Green Lantern abandoned the Regime due to a lack of willpower and ignores Supergirl's repeated appeals to his kinder side. Clark's rage has clouded his mind, and his extremism caused Barry and Hal to lose faith in him.]] Also, being too jaded about [[ILetGwenStacyDie losing]] [[TheLostLenore his wife Lois Lane]] and [[GoodIsOldFashioned traditional superheroics in general]], courtesy of the Joker's nefarious scheme to drive him to a FaceHeelTurn in the [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs previous game]], is what stops him from moving on.

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** During his story mode ending, [[FallenHero Superman]] [[spoiler:questions how Green Lantern can be standing against him as Coast City remains trapped in Brainiac's collection, believes the Flash and Green Lantern abandoned the Regime due to a lack of willpower and ignores Supergirl's repeated appeals to his kinder side. Clark's rage has clouded his mind, and his extremism caused Barry and Hal to lose faith in him.]] Also, being too jaded about [[ILetGwenStacyDie losing]] [[TheLostLenore losing his wife Lois Lane]] and [[GoodIsOldFashioned traditional superheroics in general]], courtesy of the Joker's nefarious scheme to drive him to a FaceHeelTurn in the [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs previous game]], is what stops him from moving on.



*** Unlike many of his fellow revenants, it's shown that Kung Lao hates being one and wants to get out of the Netherrealm for good, but could not. [[spoiler:But Kung Jin didn't give up hope, comes to his older cousin's aid, and redeems him in both of their arcade endings, enabling Kung Lao's HeroicWillpower to overcome the taint that bound him to the Netherrealm and [[BackFromTheDead escape to rejoin the]] [[HeelFaceTurn side of light]], something which [[TheCorrupter neither Quan Chi nor Shinnok]] didn't expect. While it's very hard for revenants to embrace positive emotions as they were corrupted to the point of extreme hatred in ''MKX'', it also shows that HeroicWillpower and familial bonds are things that neither Shinnok nor Quan Chi won't understand]].

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*** Unlike many of his fellow revenants, it's shown that Kung Lao hates being one and wants to get out of the Netherrealm for good, but could not. [[spoiler:But Kung Jin didn't give up hope, comes to his older cousin's aid, and redeems him in both of their arcade endings, enabling Kung Lao's HeroicWillpower to overcome the taint that bound him to the Netherrealm and [[BackFromTheDead escape escape]] to rejoin the]] the [[HeelFaceTurn side of light]], something which [[TheCorrupter neither Quan Chi nor Shinnok]] didn't expect. While it's very hard for revenants to embrace positive emotions as they were corrupted to the point of extreme hatred in ''MKX'', it also shows that HeroicWillpower and familial bonds are things that neither Shinnok nor Quan Chi won't understand]].



** In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', Cyrus's conviction that [[StrawNihilist the nature of human spirit is what is wrong with the universe]] leaves him dumbfounded that you would stop him from [[OmnicidalManiac destroying reality]] to remake it into a WorldOfSilence InTheirOwnImage. In ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' he's convinced that confronting Giratina will result in the destruction of the [[VoidBetweenTheWorlds Distortion World]] [[BarrierMaiden keeping spacetime in balance]] and declares the player to be the "inheritor of [his] legacy", not realizing [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu their goal is to simply befriend it]].

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** In ''VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl'', Cyrus's conviction that [[StrawNihilist the nature of human spirit is what is wrong with the universe]] leaves him dumbfounded that you would stop him from [[OmnicidalManiac destroying reality]] to remake it into a WorldOfSilence InTheirOwnImage. In ''[[UpdatedRerelease Platinum]]'' he's convinced that confronting Giratina will result in the destruction of the [[VoidBetweenTheWorlds Distortion World]] [[BarrierMaiden keeping spacetime in balance]] balance and declares the player to be the "inheritor of [his] legacy", not realizing [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu their goal is to simply befriend it]].
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* ''VideoGame/{{Manafinder}}'': Octavius is baffled that Lambda would fight to maintain the Settlement's barrier and protect the non-combatants within despite being strong enough to survive in the wild, since Octavius believes that those who are too weak to survive without a barrier don't deserve to live.
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* In ''[[VideoGame/AdvanceWars Advance Wars: Days Of Ruin]]'', [[TheHedonist Waylon's]] expresses this kind of sentiment at the end of ''Waylon Flies Again''. He simply can not understand why anyone would bother being good, trying to save lives, or trying to improve the world when [[AfterTheEnd everything is destroyed]].
--> '''Waylon:''' I just don't get it! I just don't get people like you! The world's gone, brother! Ain't nothing out there worth fighting for! And yet here you are with your friends and your... hope! I don't get it! You oughta worry about YOU! Just like me!
--> '''Will:''' [[ShutUpHannibal We'll need our hope when we rebuild this world. That's what you'll never understand.]]

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*** The other main villain of Xenoblade 2, [[spoiler:Praetor Amalthus, the leader of the [[CorruptChurch Indoline Praetorium]] who is also Malos’s Driver, is an inversion of this trope. Whereas Malos starts off unable to understand why anyone would form bonds and show courage and later grows to understand these things, Amalthus was a good person who lost faith in humanity. By the time of the main game, he is unable to understand why anyone would see Blades as anything more than tools to be used to accomplish one’s goals, even saying at one point, “Blades cannot live alongside people. They are mere tools!”]]

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*** The other main villain of Xenoblade 2, ''Xenoblade 2'', [[spoiler:Praetor Amalthus, the leader of the [[CorruptChurch Indoline Praetorium]] who is also Malos’s Malos's Driver, is an inversion of this trope. Whereas Malos starts off unable to understand why anyone would form bonds and show courage and later grows to understand these things, Amalthus was a good person who lost faith in humanity. By the time of the main game, he is unable to understand why anyone would see Blades as anything more than tools to be used to accomplish one’s goals, even saying at one point, “Blades cannot live alongside people. They are mere tools!”]]
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* The Xeno metaseries created by Creator/MonolithSoft is full of such examples.
** In VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1, [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil Zanza]]]] expresses disappointment that Shulk and company reject his offer of friendship. Shulk responds that [[spoiler:Zanza]] doesn't understand what friendship truly is because what he thinks is actually absolute loyalty so that he can use people as a food source.
** In VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2, [[spoiler: 500 years before the events of the main game, during its prequel, [[DownloadableContent Torna: The Golden Country]], [[PersonofMassDestruction Malos]] believes that humans subconsciously want to die, and has thus made it his mission to destroy the world. When finally confronted near the end of the DLC, he expresses shock at you coming to fight him, saying that he thought the heroes “would have jumped ship with the rest of the rats.” By the time of the main game, he still wants to destroy the world, but it’s for a more personal reason, and he himself has formed bonds with other people.]]

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* The Xeno ''Xeno'' metaseries created by Creator/MonolithSoft is full of such examples.
** In VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1, ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles1'', [[spoiler:[[GodIsEvil Zanza]]]] expresses disappointment that Shulk and company reject his offer of friendship. Shulk responds that [[spoiler:Zanza]] doesn't understand what friendship truly is because what he thinks is actually absolute loyalty so that he can use people as a food source.
** In VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2, ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'', [[spoiler: 500 years before the events of the main game, during its prequel, [[DownloadableContent Torna: The Golden Country]], [[PersonofMassDestruction Malos]] believes that humans subconsciously want to die, and has thus made it his mission to destroy the world. When finally confronted near the end of the DLC, he expresses shock at you coming to fight him, saying that he thought the heroes “would have jumped ship with the rest of the rats.” By the time of the main game, he still wants to destroy the world, but it’s for a more personal reason, and he himself has formed bonds with other people.]]
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** A particularly famous example occurs when Grom Hellscream stands against Mannoroth, the demon whose blood he drank on two separate occasions, setting the stage for his clan -- and separately, his race -- to become thralls of Mannoroth's demon masters. After swatting aside Grom's brother-in-arms Thrall, Mannoroth boasts about the part he played in Grom's corruption and mockingly declares they are the same. (Mannoroth was a tyrannical ruler of his race who willing joined the Legion and served as a frontline commander during the War Of The Ancients.) In a dramatic moment equal parts BigNo and ShutUpHannibal, [[HeroicSacrifice Grom buries his axe deep into Mannoroth's chest at the cost of his own life]], a clear statement that they are not.

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** A particularly famous example occurs when Grom Hellscream stands against Mannoroth, the demon whose blood he drank on two separate occasions, setting the stage for his clan -- and separately, his race -- to become thralls of Mannoroth's demon masters. After swatting aside Grom's brother-in-arms Thrall, Mannoroth boasts about the part he played in Grom's corruption and mockingly declares they are the same. (Mannoroth was a tyrannical ruler of his race who willing joined the Legion and served as a frontline commander during the War Of The of the Ancients.) In a dramatic moment equal parts BigNo and ShutUpHannibal, [[HeroicSacrifice Grom buries his axe deep into Mannoroth's chest at the cost of his own life]], a clear statement that they are not.
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* This is the key to success in ''VideoGame/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream''. Each of the initial five scenarios are prepared with AM assuming his captives would fall victim to their baser desires, [[spoiler:but to complete them each character has to overcome their flaws and make sacrifices, [[LogicBomb which utterly baffles the mad AI]], who can not see humans as anything but utter bastards. In the endgame, you have to defeat three computers representing AM's Ego, Superego, and Id. Using the Forgiveness totem on the Ego causes him to shut down since he can't comprehend how anyone would forgive him for all he's done]].

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* This is the key to success in ''VideoGame/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream''. Each of the initial five scenarios are prepared with AM assuming his captives would fall victim to their baser desires, [[spoiler:but to complete them each character has to overcome their flaws and make sacrifices, [[LogicBomb which utterly baffles the mad AI]], who can not see humans as anything but utter bastards. In the endgame, you have to defeat three computers representing AM's Ego, Superego, and Id. Using the Compassion totem on the Id causes him to give up in despair, unable to comprehend the fact that one of AM's victims can express sympathy and pity for him in spite of everything he has done, while using the Forgiveness totem on the Ego causes him to shut down since he can't comprehend cannot understand how anyone would a petty creature like a human could possibly forgive him their tormentor for all he's done]].a century of torture]].
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** Juri Han can't comprehend anything beyond fighting, hurting people and the [[CombatSadomasochist pleasure]] she gets from both those things. She only gets disgusted at AllLovingHero Elena offering to be her friend, saying she only wants "playthings". In ''A Shadow Falls'' Juri gets super annoyed at Rashid (another benevolent hero) refusing to fight her saying if he won't then he can just die showing how much violence dictates her life. Also, at the sight of Cammy being forced to knock out her BrainWashedAndCrazy sister Decapre she just cruelly laughs "at the show".

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** Juri Han can't comprehend anything beyond fighting, hurting people and the [[CombatSadomasochist pleasure]] she gets from both those things. She only gets disgusted at AllLovingHero Elena offering to be her friend, saying she only wants "playthings". In ''A Shadow Falls'' Juri gets super annoyed at Rashid (another benevolent hero) refusing to fight her saying if he won't then he can just die showing how much violence dictates her life. Also, at the sight of Cammy being forced to knock out her BrainWashedAndCrazy BrainwashedAndCrazy sister Decapre she just cruelly laughs "at the show".
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** Wesker MoleInCharge in ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil RE1]]'' blissfully assumes Barry (whom he blackmailed to follow his orders by threatening to kill his family) will just stand by as he kills their teammate Jill, to Wesker's surprise Barry chooses to save Jill and shoot him. Later in ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil RE5]]'' Wesker is genuinely surprised the BrainWashedAndCrazy [[spoiler:Jill]] is able to fight back against the mind control at Chris's pleading, or as he calls it in MadScientist speak "resisting at such an advanced state", the idea that [[spoiler:Jill]] still has humanity inside her [[ThePowerOfLove which been brought out by her beloved partner's words]] is lost on him.

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** Wesker MoleInCharge in ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil RE1]]'' blissfully assumes Barry (whom he blackmailed to follow his orders by threatening to kill his family) will just stand by as he kills their teammate Jill, to Wesker's surprise Barry chooses to save Jill and shoot him. Later in ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil RE5]]'' Wesker is genuinely surprised the BrainWashedAndCrazy BrainwashedAndCrazy [[spoiler:Jill]] is able to fight back against the mind control at Chris's pleading, or as he calls it in MadScientist speak "resisting at such an advanced state", the idea that [[spoiler:Jill]] still has humanity inside her [[ThePowerOfLove which been brought out by her beloved partner's words]] is lost on him.

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