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6th Nov '17 6:20:10 PM Snowsky
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** In the episode "Delicate", Alona, a talented but ruthless and cruel ballerina, is willing to do almost anything to keep her position as the company's top dancer, including sleeping with the instructor and humiliating her rival Jessalyn in front of the entire class.
[[spoiler:But even she's disgusted when she finds out Paulette, her own LoonyFan, [[CripplingTheCompetition put broken glass in Jessalyn's shoes]] to try and gain favor with her.]]

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** In the episode "Delicate", Alona, a talented but ruthless and cruel ballerina, is willing to do almost anything to keep her position as the company's top dancer, including sleeping with the instructor and humiliating her rival Jessalyn in front of the entire class.
class. [[spoiler:But even she's disgusted when she finds out Paulette, her own LoonyFan, [[CripplingTheCompetition put broken glass in Jessalyn's shoes]] to try and gain favor with her.]]
6th Nov '17 6:19:10 PM Snowsky
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** In the episode "Delicate", Alona, a professional ballerina, is willing to demean and insult her rival Jessalyn in front of the entire company. [[spoiler:But even she's disgusted when she finds out that Paulette [[CripplingTheCompetition put broken glass in Jessalyn's shoes]] to try and gain favor with her.]]

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** In the episode "Delicate", Alona, a professional talented but ruthless and cruel ballerina, is willing to demean do almost anything to keep her position as the company's top dancer, including sleeping with the instructor and insult humiliating her rival Jessalyn in front of the entire company. class.
[[spoiler:But even she's disgusted when she finds out that Paulette Paulette, her own LoonyFan, [[CripplingTheCompetition put broken glass in Jessalyn's shoes]] to try and gain favor with her.]]
6th Nov '17 6:15:45 PM Snowsky
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** In the episode "Delicate", Alona, a professional ballerina, is willing to demean and insult her rival Jessalyn in front of the entire company. [[spoiler:But even she's disgusted when she finds out that Paulette [[CripplingTheCompetition put broken glass in Jessalyn's shoes]] to try and gain favor with her.]]
12th Oct '17 9:58:40 AM Nazetrime
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* ''Series/MillionYenWomen'': Shin's father feels absolutely no remorse about having killed his wife and her lover, but feels really bad about stabbing one of the policemen sent to stop him in his fit of rage and regularly writes to the policeman's mother.
1st Oct '17 7:45:10 AM CG-Druid
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** Lindsey is shocked when he realizes that the company he works for, abducts people and bans their organs.
** Lilah Morgan is very evil and works willingly for a company that helps the evil. But when she meets Billy Blim, a half-demon who makes men kill women for his fun, she is horrified.
** Spike meets in the fifth season a slayer, which was kidnapped as a small child. Her hijacker brutally murdered her family, and then tormented her until she became mentally ill. At the end of the episode, Spike says he had a surprisingly little inkling of true evil for a demon.


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** Also Andrew is not completely evil, but in the seventh season is again one of the good.
11th Sep '17 4:30:09 PM TheWanderer
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* ''Series/SonsOfAnarchy'': Barosky is crooked to the core, but is sickened by a torture porn operation and another that exploits children and helps the Sons shut down both.
** In the first season the Sons hunt down a man who raped a 13 year old girl. Clay had his own anterior motives, but the rest of the club were willing to do it as an act of Justice. Keep in mind the Sons are gun runners,thugs and outlaws.

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* ''Series/SonsOfAnarchy'': ''Series/SonsOfAnarchy'':
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Barosky is crooked to the core, but is sickened by a torture porn operation and another that exploits children and helps the Sons shut down both.
** In the first season the Sons hunt down a man who raped a 13 year old girl. Clay had his own anterior ulterior motives, but the rest of the club were willing to do it as an act of Justice. Keep in mind the Sons are gun runners,thugs runners, thugs and outlaws.



--->'''Slim Charles:''' On a Sunday morning? Y'all try to hit a nigga when he taking his wrinkled ass grandma to pray? And y'all don't hit the nigga neither? All you kill is grandma's crown? ... Ain't enough y'all done violated the Sunday morning truce, no! I'm standing here holding the torn up [[NiceHat church crown]] of a bona fide [[ProperLady colored lady]]! Do yo know what a colored lady is?! Not your moms, fo sho, cause if they was that, y'all woulda known better than that ''bullshit!''

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--->'''Slim Charles:''' On a Sunday morning? Y'all try to hit a nigga when he taking his wrinkled ass grandma to pray? And y'all don't hit the nigga neither? All you kill is grandma's crown? ... Ain't enough y'all done violated the Sunday morning truce, no! I'm standing here holding the torn up [[NiceHat church crown]] of a bona fide [[ProperLady colored lady]]! Do yo you know what a colored lady is?! Not your moms, fo sho, cause if they was that, y'all woulda known better than that ''bullshit!''
25th Aug '17 7:27:59 AM XFllo
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* ''Series/BetterCallSaul:'' Much like [[Series/BreakingBad its predecessor series]], it's an underlying theme. Nacho Varga is a career criminal, but he begins to find the real graveness of the criminal underworld to be disturbing and actively seeks a way out. In a more particular example, he's greatly perturbed by having to [[spoiler: beat down Krazy-8 on Hector Salamanca's orders.]]
** Speaking of Hector Salamanca, he may be the only aversion in the entire series. Not only does he have no standards, he's a {{pride}}ful, [[LackOfEmpathy unfeeling]], [[EvilIsPetty petty]] [[JerkAss asshole]] who murders innocent people indiscriminately and has no problem [[WouldHurtAChild threatening children]], either.

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* ''Series/BetterCallSaul:'' ''Series/BetterCallSaul'': Much like [[Series/BreakingBad its predecessor series]], it's an underlying theme. theme.
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Nacho Varga is a career criminal, but he begins to find the real graveness of the criminal underworld to be disturbing and actively seeks a way out. In a more particular example, he's greatly perturbed by having to [[spoiler: beat down Krazy-8 on Hector Salamanca's orders.]]
** Speaking of Hector Salamanca, he Salamanca may be the only aversion in the entire series. Not only does he have no standards, he's a {{pride}}ful, [[LackOfEmpathy unfeeling]], [[EvilIsPetty petty]] [[JerkAss asshole]] who murders innocent people indiscriminately and has no problem [[WouldHurtAChild threatening children]], either.



* ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'': The local Klan leader is rallying the townspeople to drive TokenMinority Couple Grace and Robert E. out of their home and to equally terrorize the titular character, given that she abhors their behavior. When she confronts him about burning a cross on her property, he remorselessly tells her , "Folks don't take kindly to sympathizers. And you've got those young'uns to look after. . ." This turns out to be a huge mistake on his part as (a) It presses both her and Sully's BerserkButton—Sully outright threatens to kill him if he lays a hand on any of the children, and (b) Even some of the other Klan members express disgust at this. Later in the episode, when they kidnap Robert E. with the intent of hanging him, several of the men--Loren, Jake, and even Hank--are very reluctant to go as far as murder.
** Speaking of Hank, for all his bigotry, he refuses to terrorize the Jewish family that has come to town, explaining that a group of Jews once saved his life.

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* ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'': ''Series/DrQuinnMedicineWoman'':
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The local Klan leader is rallying the townspeople to drive TokenMinority Couple Grace and Robert E. out of their home and to equally terrorize the titular character, given that she abhors their behavior. When she confronts him about burning a cross on her property, he remorselessly tells her , "Folks don't take kindly to sympathizers. And you've got those young'uns to look after. . ." This turns out to be a huge mistake on his part as (a) It presses both her and Sully's BerserkButton—Sully buttons — Sully outright threatens to kill him if he lays a hand on any of the children, and (b) Even some of the other Klan members express disgust at this. Later in the episode, when they kidnap Robert E. with the intent of hanging him, several of the men--Loren, Jake, and even Hank--are very reluctant to go as far as murder.
** Speaking of Hank, for all his bigotry, he refuses to terrorize the Jewish family that has come to town, explaining that a group of Jews once saved his life.



** Ironic, in that Boss Hogg started his criminal career moonshining with Uncle Jesse (who eventually went straight). But drugs are bad, m'kay? There was one episode where Boss Hogg had no problem with trying to sell off a large truck of firearms (which included a Browning Machine Gun) that he stumbled across, perhaps making this character trait an example of DependingOnTheWriter. It could also have been [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness earlier in the show's run]], when Boss was a more malevolent character than he later became.



*** Invoked and mocked when he tortures his prisoner Theon in the Season 3 finale. He castrates Theon, and in a later scene he [[ImAHumanitarian eats a sausage that looks suspiciously like... well, you know,]] in front of a cringing Theon. He pretends to be shocked at the suggestion that Theon would think him a cannibalistic savage and confirms it's just pork sausage. He is obviously just messing with his prisoner's mind out of cruelty, but according to his dialogue with Osha in "Book of the Stranger," he may have such a standard after all. Still, given who he is, it's just a matter of time.

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*** Invoked and mocked when he tortures his prisoner Theon in the Season 3 finale. He castrates Theon, and in a later scene he [[ImAHumanitarian eats a sausage that looks suspiciously like... well, you know,]] in front of a cringing Theon. He pretends to be shocked at the suggestion that Theon would think him a cannibalistic savage and confirms it's just pork sausage. He is obviously just messing with his prisoner's mind out of cruelty, but according to his dialogue with Osha in "Book of the Stranger," he may have such a standard (i.e. cannibalism) after all. Still, given who he is, it's just a matter of time.



** Speaking of, even Cersei herself is visibly shocked and horrified by some of [[TheCaligula Joffrey]]'s mad antics. First off, she (and Pycelle) are seen frantically trying to dissuade him from having Ned executed (although this could also be less caring about Ned's life and more because they know it would lead to a CivilWar), secondly she ''does not'' approve of Joffrey ordering a massacre of children and thirdly, her being shaken to the core by Joffrey's suggestion that he serve [[spoiler:Robb Stark's head to Sansa]] at the wedding feast and pretends he's just joking. In fact, the ''entire'' Lannister small council has this shaken reaction.
--> '''Cersei:''' Robert was a drunken fool, but he didn't enjoy cruelty.
** Another wider DeliberateValuesDissonance example is that even though Westeros is a medieval society where everyone engages in brutal violence and cut-throat politics, SacredHospitality is taken ''[[SeriousBusiness very]]'' seriously. The idea of violating it makes all but the very worst of Westerosi queasy. While at the Nightfort, Bran recalls the myth of the Rat Cook, whom the gods cursed not for murdering a prince, nor for [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies baking him in a pie]], but for harming his guest. [[spoiler:The events of The Red Wedding shake the entire continent to its foundations.]]
** In the first season, long before he began to get a redemption arc, (or if not redemption, at least deeper characterization to show he wasn't a simple villain) [[TheOathbreaker Jaime]] [[BodyguardBetrayal Lannister]] abruptly dropped the cynical snarkery he was engaging in with his hated enemy Ned Stark to sincerely tell Stark that his late father and brother were very brave when [[TheCaligula the Mad King]] essentially horrifically tortured them to death, and how he despised the Mad King for his actions.
--->It must be strange for you, coming into this room. I was standing right here when it happened. [[SympathyForTheHero He was very brave, your brother. Your father too]]. They didn't deserve to die [[KillItWithFire like that]]. ''Nobody'' deserves to die like that... and later, when I watched the Mad King die, I remembered him laughing as your father burned. [[PayEvilUntoEvil It felt like justice]].
** The Hound, who rode down an innocent peasant boy in "The Kingsroad", has an obvious distaste for seeing women abused, as shown by his protective actions with both Sansa and Arya. The Blu-ray extras mention a DeadLittleSister when enumerating suspicious deaths attributed the Sandor's brother Gregor which might be the source of this sentiment.

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** Speaking of, even Evil, incestuous and murderous Queen Cersei herself is visibly shocked and horrified by some of [[TheCaligula Joffrey]]'s mad antics. First off, she (and Pycelle) are seen frantically trying to dissuade him from having Ned executed (although this could also be less caring about Ned's life and more because they know it would lead to a CivilWar), secondly she ''does not'' approve of Joffrey ordering a massacre of children and thirdly, her being shaken to the core by Joffrey's suggestion that he serve [[spoiler:Robb Robb Stark's head to Sansa]] his sister Sansa at the wedding feast and pretends he's just joking. In fact, the ''entire'' Lannister small council has this shaken reaction.
--> ---> '''Cersei:''' Robert was a drunken fool, but he didn't enjoy cruelty.
** Another One wider DeliberateValuesDissonance example is that even though Westeros is a medieval society where everyone engages in brutal violence and cut-throat politics, SacredHospitality is taken ''[[SeriousBusiness very]]'' seriously. The idea of violating it makes all but the very worst of Westerosi queasy. While at the Nightfort, Bran recalls the myth of the Rat Cook, whom the gods cursed not for murdering a prince, nor for [[TheSecretOfLongPorkPies baking him in a pie]], but for harming his guest. [[spoiler:The The events of The Red Wedding (House Stark and their bannermen were slaughtered at a wedding feast) shake the entire continent to its foundations.]]
foundations.
** In the first season, long before he began to get a redemption arc, (or if not redemption, at least deeper characterization to show he wasn't a simple villain) [[TheOathbreaker Jaime]] [[BodyguardBetrayal Lannister]] abruptly dropped the cynical snarkery he was engaging in with his hated enemy Ned Stark to sincerely tell Stark that his late father and brother were very brave when [[TheCaligula the Mad King]] essentially horrifically tortured them to death, and how he despised the Mad King for his actions.
--->It --->''"It must be strange for you, coming into this room. I was standing right here when it happened. [[SympathyForTheHero He was very brave, your brother. Your father too]]. They didn't deserve to die [[KillItWithFire like that]]. ''Nobody'' deserves to die like that... and later, when I watched the Mad King die, I remembered him laughing as your father burned. [[PayEvilUntoEvil It felt like justice]].
justice]]."''
** The Hound, who rode down an innocent peasant boy in "The Kingsroad", has an obvious distaste for seeing women abused, as shown by his protective actions with both Sansa and Arya. The Blu-ray extras mention a DeadLittleSister CynicismCatalyst of his troubled childhood, especially his dead little sister when enumerating suspicious deaths attributed the Sandor's brother Gregor which might be the source of this sentiment.



** Ygritte, despite presenting a much darker side all season, spares Gilly and her child in "The Mountain and the Viper."
** In regards to House Bolton, Roose is willing to betray and murder his king and liege-lord, openly admits to committing rape in the past, but could not bring himself to kill his bastard son Ramsay when he was first brought to him as a baby. This from a man who took part in an unthinkable violation of sacred guest right (though technically, he wasn't the host but was one guest attacking another). Ultimately subverted when it turns out that Ramsay has no such compunctions about kinslaying.
** Even Roose is taken aback by Gregor Clegane's massacre of the prisoners at Harrenhal. Furthermore, you could also say that Roose at best ''tolerates'' Walder Frey's leering tendencies and pleasure he took in the Red Wedding, whilst Roose simply sees it as a case of IDidWhatIHadToDo as House Bolton would have been wiped out by Tywin otherwise.

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** Ygritte, despite presenting a much darker side all season, kills a bunch of villagers during a raid, but she spares Gilly and her child baby in "The Mountain and the Viper."
Viper".
** In regards to House Bolton, Roose Bolton: He is willing to betray and murder his king and liege-lord, openly admits to committing rape in the past, but could not bring himself to kill his bastard son Ramsay when he was first brought to him as a baby. This from a man who took part in an unthinkable violation of sacred guest right (though technically, he wasn't the host but was one guest attacking another). Ultimately subverted when it turns out that Ramsay has no such compunctions about kinslaying.
** Even
Roose is taken aback by Gregor Clegane's massacre of the prisoners at Harrenhal. Furthermore, you could also say that Roose at best ''tolerates'' Walder Frey's leering tendencies and pleasure he took in the Red Wedding, whilst Roose simply sees it as a case of IDidWhatIHadToDo as House Bolton would have been wiped out by Tywin otherwise.



** It comes out of PragmaticVillainy generally, but Tywin generally has little patience for the more vulgar form of evil indulged by Cersei, Amory Lorch and Joffrey.

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** Tywin Lannister:
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It comes out of PragmaticVillainy generally, but Tywin generally has little patience for the more vulgar form of evil indulged by Cersei, Amory Lorch and Joffrey.
11th Aug '17 5:52:45 PM ZimFan89
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** In an episode of the revival, Kinga quickly backs out of a business deal with an Argentinian coffee company once she realizes its [[ArgentinaIsNaziland association with Hitler]].
7th Aug '17 2:09:30 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Speaking of, even Cersei herself is visibly shocked and horrified by some of [[TheCaligula Joffrey]]'s mad antics. First off, she (and Pycelle) are seen frantically trying to dissuade him from having Ned executed (although this could also be less caring about Ned's life and more because, being GenreSavvy, they know it would lead to a CivilWar), secondly she ''does not'' approve of Joffrey ordering a massacre of children and thirdly, her being shaken to the core by Joffrey's suggestion that he serve [[spoiler:Robb Stark's head to Sansa]] at the wedding feast and pretends he's just joking. In fact, the ''entire'' Lannister small council has this shaken reaction.

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** Speaking of, even Cersei herself is visibly shocked and horrified by some of [[TheCaligula Joffrey]]'s mad antics. First off, she (and Pycelle) are seen frantically trying to dissuade him from having Ned executed (although this could also be less caring about Ned's life and more because, being GenreSavvy, because they know it would lead to a CivilWar), secondly she ''does not'' approve of Joffrey ordering a massacre of children and thirdly, her being shaken to the core by Joffrey's suggestion that he serve [[spoiler:Robb Stark's head to Sansa]] at the wedding feast and pretends he's just joking. In fact, the ''entire'' Lannister small council has this shaken reaction.
3rd Aug '17 12:55:45 PM LadyEvil
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* One episode of Series/DiffrentStrokes had Arnold go to a sleazy guy known as Spider to get a forged report card rather than show Mr. Drummond his bad grades. Spider refuses to give him better than a B in biology for thinking a spider was an insect. Spider also makes him take a test for the other classes, but they're very easy questions that any third grader could answer.
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