History EnemyMine / RealLife

22nd May '16 11:16:02 PM OldBlindTrope
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* In the 1990s, pro-Israel American neoconservatives and Islamic activists shared a common enemy in the form of Slobodan Milosevic's Serbian chauvinist regime.
** Even weirder, white supremacists and the anti-imperialist left found themselves on the same side, opposing NATO intervention. Creator/ChristopherHitchens believed that this was when the left lost its way.
* [[StrawFeminist Militant feminists]] and [[MoralGuardians conservative Christians]] disagree on almost every issue, with the exception of one: they are both opposed to pornography. The feminists feel that it's exploitative of women, while the Christians feel that it's immoral, sinful, ''and'' exploitative.

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* In the 1990s, pro-Israel American neoconservatives conservatives and neocons are militantly pro-Israel; Islamic activists shared activists, as a common enemy rule, are not. But both factions worked together to oppose Slobadan Milosevec and his Serbian-chauvinist regime, as the latter tried to wipe out the Muslim Bosnians in the form of Slobodan Milosevic's Serbian chauvinist regime.
late 1990s.
** Even weirder, white supremacists and Over in the pro-Milosevec camp were the anti-war, anti-imperialist left found themselves on radical left... and the same side, opposing NATO intervention. Creator/ChristopherHitchens believed pro-war, pro-imperialist radical right. It was Creator/CristopherHitchens' belief that this was when the left Left lost its way.
* [[StrawFeminist Militant feminists]] and [[MoralGuardians conservative Christians]] disagree on almost every issue, with the exception issue except of one: they are both opposed to hate pornography. The feminists feel that it's exploitative of women, while women; the Christians feel that it's immoral, immoral and sinful, ''and'' exploitative.and also exploitative of women.



** It gets better. A proposal to create a ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn was recently approved by ICANN, resulting in an alliance between the Religious Right (who fear that it will legitimize pornography) and much of the porn industry (who fear that it will lead to tighter regulation) against it. Alliances don't get much stranger than that.
** Similar to the issue of the ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn, both the Religious Right and the porn industry are opposed to making it legal for women to go topless. The former believe that it's immoral, while the latter... Well, they feel that it would dramatically decrease business for them -- since there would no longer be a demand for "topless pornography".
*** Except, in several states (including New York) it IS legal for ANYONE to go topless, as long as they don't enter private businesses that request you not to (i.e. the famous "[[DressCode No shirt, no shoes, no service]]" rule).
** Margaret Atwood's ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'' has this unusual alliance to blame at least partially for the creation of [[{{Dystopia}} Gilead]].
** Similarly, the alliance between militant feminists and the Christian Right in banning the wearing of burqas (as seen in France and Belgium). Militant feminists think burqas oppress women and restrict their rights, while the Christian Right tend to cite "fundamentalism" creeping into society. Although burqas are banned in several explicitly Islamic nations already, so it's a bit more complicated than that, and burqa bans create an enemy mine on the other side of the fence: religious Muslims and political liberals (in the "small l" sense of "let people do what they want within reason."
** The list of things these two factions agree on gets longer: both have been critical of [[TheNewRockAndRoll heavy rock music,]] have shown a liking for [[MoralGuardians purging libraries]] of controversial books, both favor harsh 'law and order' stances against sex crimes, lean towards thinking that AllMenArePerverts whom it is woman's duty to [[WomenAreWiser set on the straight and narrow]] and in extreme cases, fully believe that SexIsEvil.
** Certain factions of the feminist movement have a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses strong distaste of the colour pink]], as [[PinkIsForSissies do many]] [[RatedMForManly chauvinistic dudebros]]. This irony is not lost on some of the moderate branches of feminism who believe that rejecting the concept of prescribed gender roles is ''not'' the same thing as rejecting anything considered "feminine" - and that hating pink (for reasons other than simple personal preferences) can be misogynistic itself.

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** It gets better. A proposal to create Pornography can produce stranger alliances than this. ICANN recently approved a ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn was recently approved by ICANN, resulting in an alliance between the Internet porn; who opposed it? The Religious Right (who fear Right, who feared that it will would legitimize pornography) pornography; and much of the porn industry (who fear industry, who feared that it will would lead to tighter regulation) against it. Alliances don't get much stranger than that.
stricter regulations.
** Similar to the issue of the ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn, both the Religious Right and the porn industry are opposed oppose to making it legal for women to go topless. The former believe that it's immoral, while immoral; the latter... Well, they feel that it would dramatically decrease business for them -- since there would no longer be latter fear a demand for "topless pornography".
fall in demand.
*** Except, But in several states (including New York) it IS legal for ANYONE to go topless, as long as they don't enter private businesses that request you not to (i.e. the famous "[[DressCode No shirt, no shoes, no service]]" rule).
** Margaret Atwood's ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'' has blames exactly this unusual alliance to blame at (at least partially in part) for the creation of [[{{Dystopia}} Gilead]].
** Similarly, the alliance between militant Militant feminists and the Christian Right are also united in banning not caring for burqas; both backed the wearing of burqas (as seen burqa bans in France and Belgium). Belgium. Militant feminists think burqas oppress women and restrict their rights, while rights; the Christian Right tend to cite "fundamentalism" creeping into society. Although fears Islamic fundamentalism spreading in Christian (or post-Christian) societies. Meanwhile, burqas are banned in several explicitly Islamic nations already, so it's a bit more complicated than that, and burqa bans create an enemy mine countries, creating another EnemyMine on the other side of the fence: religious Muslims and political liberals (in the "small l" sense of "let people do what they want within reason."
reason").
** The list of things these two factions agree on gets longer: Radical feminists and Christian fundamentalists also both have been critical of condemn [[TheNewRockAndRoll heavy rock music,]] have shown a liking for [[MoralGuardians purging both like to purge libraries]] of controversial books, both favor harsh 'law and order' stances against sex crimes, lean towards thinking both suspect that that AllMenArePerverts whom it is woman's duty to who women must [[WomenAreWiser set keep on the straight and narrow]] and narrow path]], and, in extreme cases, fully believe both agree that SexIsEvil.
SexIsEvil. (Get a room, already. ... Oh, wait.)
** Certain factions of the feminist movement have a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses strong distaste of for the colour pink]], as [[PinkIsForSissies do many]] just like]] [[RatedMForManly chauvinistic dudebros]]. This irony is not lost on some of the moderate branches of feminism feminism, who believe emphasize that you can reject the idea of ''prescribed'' gender roles (i.e., gender roles more or less explicitly enforced by society) without rejecting the whole concept of prescribed gender roles is ''not'' the same thing as rejecting anything considered "feminine" - and that being feminine; hating pink (for reasons other than simple personal preferences) pink, they say, can be misogynistic itself.itself -- although individuals may have good personal reasons to dislike the color.



* Islamic and Christian fundamentalists are generally opposed to each other, with the subscribing to different religions and being, well, fundamentalists. However, creationist works and arguments critical of Darwinism tend to pass between both groups, as do tracts critical of homosexuality.
** Amongst the most extremist elements of both, this also applies to anti-Semitic tracts, most notably ''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''
* During the 1800 election in the United States, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton and UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson both decided that they hated Aaron Burr more than they hated each other, thus leading to Hamilton persuading the House of Representatives (Burr and Jefferson had tied in the Electoral College) to vote for Jefferson instead of Burr.
** Similarly in 1824, UsefulNotes/JohnQuincyAdams and UsefulNotes/HenryClay against UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson.

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* Islamic and Christian fundamentalists are generally opposed to each other, what with the subscribing to being fundamentalist supporters of different religions and being, well, fundamentalists. However, religions; but creationist works and arguments critical of Darwinism tend to pass circulate freely between both the two groups, as do tracts critical of homosexuality.
** Amongst
homosexuality -- and the most extremist elements terrorist lunatic fringes of both, this also applies to both religions read the same anti-Semitic tracts, most notably ''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''
''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''.
* During the 1800 election in the United States, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton and UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson both decided that they hated Aaron Burr more than they hated each other, thus leading to and so, when Burr and Jefferson tied in the electoral college, Hamilton persuading persuaded the House of Representatives (Burr and Jefferson had tied in the Electoral College) to vote for Jefferson instead of Burr.
** Similarly in 1824, UsefulNotes/JohnQuincyAdams and UsefulNotes/HenryClay united against UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson.
8th May '16 2:45:13 PM ZimFan89
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* As of the halfway point of the contentious 2016 Republican primaries, Cruz has ended up on the active end of this trope, effectively teaming up with fellow candidate, the more moderate Governor John Kasich, against radical and controversial frontrunner Donald Trump. While neither candidate has dropped out of the race completely, they have struck a deal wherein they stop running in states where the other is leading, thus creating a greater possibility of denying Trump (who has a substantial lead overall) from getting the delegates necessary to automatically win the nomination.

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* As of Around the halfway point of the contentious 2016 Republican primaries, Cruz has himself ended up on the active end of this trope, effectively teaming up with fellow candidate, the more moderate Governor John Kasich, against radical and controversial frontrunner Donald Trump. While neither candidate has dropped out of the race completely, completely at the time, they have struck a deal wherein they stop stopped running in states where the other is was leading, thus creating a greater possibility of denying Trump (who has had a substantial lead overall) from getting the delegates necessary to automatically win the nomination.nomination.
** When this strategy ultimately failed, both candidates suspended their campaigns and, along with many other Trump opponents within the Republicans, started supporting him, for the sake of keeping the party united against the Democrats in the actual election.
3rd May '16 9:30:19 PM backpack
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* The Minimum Income (or [[InsistentTerminology "Negative Tax Credit"]]) has become something of a strange unifier between Socialists and some Libertarians in recent years. The Socialists support the idea for obvious reasons. The Libertarians, on the other hand, realize that they're unlikely to end government welfare completely, and feel that if it has to exist then simply writing the poor a check would be preferable to (and cheaper than) attempting to regulate how every penny of welfare money is spent.
25th Apr '16 6:00:29 PM ZimFan89
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* As of the halfway point of the contentious 2016 Republican primaries, Cruz has ended up on the active end of this trope, effectively teaming up with fellow candidate, the more moderate Governor John Kasich, against radical and controversial frontrunner Donald Trump. While neither candidate has dropped out of the race completely, they have struck a deal wherein they stop running in states where the other is leading, thus creating a greater possibility of denying Trump (who has a substantial lead overall) from getting the delegates necessary to automatically win the nomination.
16th Apr '16 8:40:29 PM Jhonny
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* In German soccer the rivalry between Schalke 04 and 1. FC Nuremberg was quite intense during the 1930s and 1940s as both teams were among the best in Germany, frequently battling out the cup and the championship. [[note]]Which were both played in a playoff format at the time, so there were several ''finals'' involving the two teams[[/note]] However, the two fandoms now enjoy one of the strongest and most storied friendships, even going so far as supporters going to matches of the other team in their own gear and being welcomed. How this friendship came about is unknown, but one popular theory is that a bunch of fans of Schalke was getting into a fight with fans of Bayern and some Fans of Nuremberg saw this and as Bayern was clearly seen as the bigger evil ([[LoveItOrHateIt nobody who is not a fan of them really likes them]]), the Nuremberg fans intervened. If this story is true - and it may well have been the other way round - it also doubles as [[FireForgedFriends]]hip.

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* In German soccer the rivalry between Schalke 04 and 1. FC Nuremberg was quite intense during the 1930s and 1940s as both teams were among the best in Germany, frequently battling out the cup and the championship. [[note]]Which were both played in a playoff format at the time, so there were several ''finals'' involving the two teams[[/note]] However, the two fandoms now enjoy one of the strongest and most storied friendships, even going so far as supporters going to matches of the other team in their own gear and being welcomed. How this friendship came about is unknown, but one popular theory is that a bunch of fans of Schalke was getting into a fight with fans of Bayern and some Fans of Nuremberg saw this and as Bayern was clearly seen as the bigger evil ([[LoveItOrHateIt nobody who is not a fan of them really likes them]]), the Nuremberg fans intervened. If this story is true - and it may well have been the other way round - it also doubles as [[FireForgedFriends]]hip.
{{FireForgedFriends}}hip.
16th Apr '16 8:39:44 PM Jhonny
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* In German soccer the rivalry between Schalke 04 and 1. FC Nuremberg was quite intense during the 1930s and 1940s as both teams were among the best in Germany, frequently battling out the cup and the championship. [[note]]Which were both played in a playoff format at the time, so there were several ''finals'' involving the two teams[[/note]] However, the two fandoms now enjoy one of the strongest and most storied friendships, even going so far as supporters going to matches of the other team in their own gear and being welcomed. How this friendship came about is unknown, but one popular theory is that a bunch of fans of Schalke was getting into a fight with fans of Bayern and some Fans of Nuremberg saw this and as Bayern was clearly seen as the bigger evil ([[LoveItOrHateIt nobody who is not a fan of them really likes them]]), the Nuremberg fans intervened. If this story is true - and it may well have been the other way round - it also doubles as FireForgedFriendship.

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* In German soccer the rivalry between Schalke 04 and 1. FC Nuremberg was quite intense during the 1930s and 1940s as both teams were among the best in Germany, frequently battling out the cup and the championship. [[note]]Which were both played in a playoff format at the time, so there were several ''finals'' involving the two teams[[/note]] However, the two fandoms now enjoy one of the strongest and most storied friendships, even going so far as supporters going to matches of the other team in their own gear and being welcomed. How this friendship came about is unknown, but one popular theory is that a bunch of fans of Schalke was getting into a fight with fans of Bayern and some Fans of Nuremberg saw this and as Bayern was clearly seen as the bigger evil ([[LoveItOrHateIt nobody who is not a fan of them really likes them]]), the Nuremberg fans intervened. If this story is true - and it may well have been the other way round - it also doubles as FireForgedFriendship.
[[FireForgedFriends]]hip.
16th Apr '16 8:38:23 PM Jhonny
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* In German soccer the rivalry between Schalke 04 and 1. FC Nuremberg was quite intense during the 1930s and 1940s as both teams were among the best in Germany, frequently battling out the cup and the championship. [[note]]Which were both played in a playoff format at the time, so there were several ''finals'' involving the two teams[[/note]] However, the two fandoms now enjoy one of the strongest and most storied friendships, even going so far as supporters going to matches of the other team in their own gear and being welcomed. How this friendship came about is unknown, but one popular theory is that a bunch of fans of Schalke was getting into a fight with fans of Bayern and some Fans of Nuremberg saw this and as Bayern was clearly seen as the bigger evil ([[LoveItOrHateIt nobody who is not a fan of them really likes them]]), the Nuremberg fans intervened. If this story is true - and it may well have been the other way round - it also doubles as FireForgedFriendship.
16th Apr '16 8:30:44 PM Jhonny
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* A wandering anecdote ascribed to UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt with regards to a Latin American dictator (Somoza sr. of Nicaragua and Trujillo of the Dominican Republic are the most likely candidates) goes that he said "Sure he is a [[PrecisionFStrike son of a bitch]], but he is ''our'' son of a bitch". Whether Roosevelt ever actually said that, it is a good summation of US foreign policy in Latin America during the 20th century.

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* A wandering anecdote ascribed to UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt with regards to a Latin American dictator (Somoza sr. of Nicaragua and Trujillo of the Dominican Republic are the most likely candidates) goes that he said "Sure he is a [[PrecisionFStrike son of a bitch]], but he is ''our'' son of a bitch". Whether or not Roosevelt ever actually said that, that aside, it is a good summation of US foreign policy in Latin America during the 20th century.
16th Apr '16 7:54:08 PM NightShade96
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** When ''Twilight'' first came along, every fandom which had ever had rivalry with ''Literature/HarryPotter'' was suddenly allied with the ''Potter'' fans against the ''Twilight'' fans.

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** When ''Twilight'' first came along, every fandom which had ever had a rivalry with ''Literature/HarryPotter'' was suddenly allied with the ''Potter'' fans against the ''Twilight'' fans.
13th Apr '16 7:14:31 PM missmoon
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* According to ''Mother Jones'', Senator Ted Cruz is so unpopular among [[http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/01/ted-cruz-jerk-hated established Republicans]] for his controversial views and equally nasty personality that ''Series/TheDailyShowWithTrevorNoah'' seems to believe that he's the one person that the Democrats and Republicans can share mutual hatred of.
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