History EnemyMine / RealLife

29th Jul '16 9:02:14 AM backpack
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* Following the 2016 Orlando Shootings some members of the Republican Party, such as Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich, tried to bring LGBT voters over on the basis that their community was being targetted by Islamic Terrorists, and the Republican Party would be better at protecting them than the Democrats. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement The sincerity or morality of this move is beyond the scope of this article.]] It is notable, however, that the call received cheers when presented in speeches at the RNC, but attempts to adopt an amendement condemning ISIS for its crimes against the LGBT Community in the Party Platform was voted down.
20th Jul '16 2:51:28 PM RobTan
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* In 1932, the Chancellor of Germany was Franz von Papen; who was almost universally disliked, had been installed by his close friend who was also an advisor of the increasingly senile President Paul von Hindenburg, and lead a cabinet of unelected technocrats. The two largest parties in the parliament were the Nazis and the Communists, who between them had enough seats to form a majority coalition but obviously couldn't govern together, not least because their supporters had been in open street brawls only days before. Papen hoped he could use the situation to dissolve parliament and take over completely, and managed to get Hindenburg to sign declarations which would have made him a dictator in all but name. When he attended the first session, the Communists immediately called a vote of no confidence. The Nazis had promised to counter the motion, but stayed conspicuously silent. When Papen tried to produce the declaration dissolving parliament and suspending future elections, the Speaker (Hermann Goering) pretended not to notice him, and Papen was forced to call another election.
19th Jul '16 2:04:12 AM AgProv
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** A funny example in 2014 FIFA World Cup: Germany defeated the host country, Brazil, for a spectacular 7-1 in one of the semifinals, which was the worst defeat Brazil ever suffered and a traumatic experience for all the fans. At one point the Brazilian fans (those which hadn't left already during the first half) was cheering on the German team. The other semifinal match was Netherlands X Argentina, with the latter winning and making it into the finals against Germany. Nearly ALL Brazilians rooted for Germany, out of spite and fun. And Germany scored 1-0 during additional extra time, thus winning the tournament. Brazilian fans were satisfied, even after losing 3rd place match to Netherlands, just because the arch-rival Argentina was defeated. For those not familiar with soccer, Brazil vs. Argentina is probably the greatest rivalry in the world of soccer - to the point that there is a Cup that only these two national treams dispute! It also helped that this was only the second time Germany and Brazil meet in a World Cup, and the German team won fairly gracefully, toning down the goal celebrations at one point and comforting members of the host team after the game. Plus, loosing so badly is already a disgrace, but loose so badly against team which then doesn't move forward to win the cup can be considered as even worse.

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** A funny example in 2014 FIFA World Cup: Germany defeated the host country, Brazil, for a spectacular 7-1 in one of the semifinals, which was the worst defeat Brazil ever suffered and a traumatic experience for all the fans. At one point the Brazilian fans (those which hadn't left already during the first half) was cheering on the German team. The other semifinal match was Netherlands X Argentina, with the latter winning and making it into the finals against Germany. Nearly ALL Brazilians rooted for Germany, out of spite and fun. And Germany scored 1-0 during additional extra time, thus winning the tournament. Brazilian fans were satisfied, even after losing 3rd place match to Netherlands, just because the arch-rival Argentina was defeated. For those not familiar with soccer, Brazil vs. Argentina is probably the greatest rivalry in the world of soccer soccer[[note]]Outside the regular Scottish derby between Glasgow Celtic and Glasgow Rangers, for which all police leave is routinely cancelled and extra police are drafted into Glasgow from other police forces as far away as England[[/note]] - to the point that there is a Cup that only these two national treams dispute! It also helped that this was only the second time Germany and Brazil meet in a World Cup, and the German team won fairly gracefully, toning down the goal celebrations at one point and comforting members of the host team after the game. Plus, loosing so badly is already a disgrace, but loose so badly against team which then doesn't move forward to win the cup can be considered as even worse.
16th Jul '16 1:24:28 AM DavidDelony
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* Hillary Clinton's detractors on both the left and the right have called on her to be indicted for her email improprieties, to the point where it's difficult sometimes to tell Trump supporters from diehard supporters of Sanders.
16th Jul '16 1:22:30 AM DavidDelony
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* Similar to the Republicans mentioned above, Bernie Sanders invoked this when he formally endorsed UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton in 2016 after a contentious primary season, saying that the Democrats had to be united in defeating Trump.
11th Jul '16 9:34:43 AM Jhonny
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* In parliamentary systems with proportional representation coalitions are a common occurrence, and they involve compromise as a matter of course. However, a so-called "grand coalition" is usually this trope in spades. During the Main/TheBonnRepublic there was only one "grand coalition" where SPD and CDU/CSU the main center-left and center-right parties teamed up from 1966 to 1969. This coalition included figures such as Franz Josef Strauß (CSU), Herbert Wehner and Willy Brandt (both SPD) almost all of them had viciously attacked the political opponent before and would go on to do so afterwards. This being relatively shortly after the war, some attacks centered on the conduct during the war. Brandt was attacked for having been an exile, while some CDU/CSU members were accused for having been fellow travelers or ''worse''. Remarkably, this grand coalition got done what it had to do and dissolved after the next election. One of the things it passed with its crushing über-majority were new emergency powers laws, which were supported by the Western Allies and the government and opposed by a strange coalition including former concentration camp inmates as well as leftist students against the Vietnam war and high ranking spokesperson of both churches.

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* In parliamentary systems with proportional representation coalitions are a common occurrence, and they involve compromise as a matter of course. However, a so-called "grand coalition" is usually this trope in spades. During the Main/TheBonnRepublic there was only one "grand coalition" where SPD and CDU/CSU the main center-left and center-right parties teamed up from 1966 to 1969. This coalition included figures such as Franz Josef Strauß (CSU), Herbert Wehner and Willy Brandt (both SPD) almost all of them had viciously attacked the political opponent before and would go on to do so afterwards. This being relatively shortly after the war, some attacks centered on the conduct during the war. Brandt was attacked for having been an exile, while some CDU/CSU members were accused for having been fellow travelers or ''worse''. Remarkably, this grand coalition got done what it had to do and dissolved after the next election. One of the things it passed with its crushing über-majority were new emergency powers laws, which were supported by the Western Allies and the government and opposed by a strange coalition including former concentration camp inmates as well as leftist students against the Vietnam war and high ranking spokesperson spokespersons of both churches.churches (Lutheran and Catholic).
10th Jul '16 6:49:10 PM SpacemanSpoof
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* Industry trade groups in general. Companies within a particular industry might be fierce rivals, but they will often work together to protect their shared interests. For example, they might oppose government regulations that cut into everyone's profits, or push for government regulations that create barriers to entry for disruptive new competitors. It's also common for such groups to collaborate on industry standards that benefit everyone, such as the security requirements enforced by the credit card industry.
28th Jun '16 7:16:18 AM honkgamzeehonk
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* There are a couple of football rivalries in Germany, the most famous being the one between Borussia Dortmund and Schalke 04. Those matches are always heated. But there are two moments during which the audience is always in agreement: When the "Steigerlied" is played (a song regularly sung in both arenas to honour the time when the Ruhr Valley was a coal region) and whenever Bayern München is loosing. It's a very common attitude among most football fans in Germany to cheer even for the worst rival as long as Bayern München doesn't get a point.
10th Jun '16 6:48:29 PM onyhow
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** Five days before the death of Adolf Hitler The Battle for Castle Itter was fought. Dubbed the strangest battle of World War II; 14 American soldiers, two Sherman Tanks, French and Eastern European prisoners, Austrian Resistance, as well as ten anti-nazi Wehrmacht soldiers and one Waffen-SS man teamed up together to drive elements of the 17th Waffen-SS Panzer Division from setting up a stronghold in the castle. Notable prisoners included tennis star Jean Borotra, former prime minister Édouard Daladier, Charles de Gaulle's elder sister Marie-Agnès Cailliau, former commander-in-chief Maxime Weygand, former prime minister Paul Reynaud, former commander-in-chief Maurice Gamelin,right-wing leader François de La Rocque and trade union leader Léon Jouhaux. Besides the French VIP prisoners, the Castle held a number of Eastern European prisoners detached from Dachau. Major Gangl of the Wehrmacht managed to get a a call out to a friend who owed him a favour and a group of Austrian resistance men as well as several more Wehrmacht men joined in the American/German/French/Austrian defense. Together they drove off the Waffen-SS until they were relieved by approaching US 142th Infantry Division.

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** Five days before after the death of Adolf Hitler The Battle for Castle Itter was fought. Dubbed the strangest battle of World War II; 14 American soldiers, two Sherman Tanks, French and Eastern European prisoners, Austrian Resistance, as well as ten anti-nazi Wehrmacht soldiers and one Waffen-SS man teamed up together to drive elements of the 17th Waffen-SS Panzer Division from setting up a stronghold in the castle. Notable prisoners included tennis star Jean Borotra, former prime minister Édouard Daladier, Charles de Gaulle's elder sister Marie-Agnès Cailliau, former commander-in-chief Maxime Weygand, former prime minister Paul Reynaud, former commander-in-chief Maurice Gamelin,right-wing leader François de La Rocque and trade union leader Léon Jouhaux. Besides the French VIP prisoners, the Castle held a number of Eastern European prisoners detached from Dachau. Major Gangl of the Wehrmacht managed to get a a call out to a friend who owed him a favour and a group of Austrian resistance men as well as several more Wehrmacht men joined in the American/German/French/Austrian defense. Together they drove off the Waffen-SS until they were relieved by approaching US 142th Infantry Division.
22nd May '16 11:16:02 PM OldBlindTrope
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* In the 1990s, pro-Israel American neoconservatives and Islamic activists shared a common enemy in the form of Slobodan Milosevic's Serbian chauvinist regime.
** Even weirder, white supremacists and the anti-imperialist left found themselves on the same side, opposing NATO intervention. Creator/ChristopherHitchens believed that this was when the left lost its way.
* [[StrawFeminist Militant feminists]] and [[MoralGuardians conservative Christians]] disagree on almost every issue, with the exception of one: they are both opposed to pornography. The feminists feel that it's exploitative of women, while the Christians feel that it's immoral, sinful, ''and'' exploitative.

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* In the 1990s, pro-Israel American neoconservatives conservatives and neocons are militantly pro-Israel; Islamic activists shared activists, as a common enemy rule, are not. But both factions worked together to oppose Slobadan Milosevec and his Serbian-chauvinist regime, as the latter tried to wipe out the Muslim Bosnians in the form of Slobodan Milosevic's Serbian chauvinist regime.
late 1990s.
** Even weirder, white supremacists and Over in the pro-Milosevec camp were the anti-war, anti-imperialist left found themselves on radical left... and the same side, opposing NATO intervention. Creator/ChristopherHitchens believed pro-war, pro-imperialist radical right. It was Creator/CristopherHitchens' belief that this was when the left Left lost its way.
* [[StrawFeminist Militant feminists]] and [[MoralGuardians conservative Christians]] disagree on almost every issue, with the exception issue except of one: they are both opposed to hate pornography. The feminists feel that it's exploitative of women, while women; the Christians feel that it's immoral, immoral and sinful, ''and'' exploitative.and also exploitative of women.



** It gets better. A proposal to create a ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn was recently approved by ICANN, resulting in an alliance between the Religious Right (who fear that it will legitimize pornography) and much of the porn industry (who fear that it will lead to tighter regulation) against it. Alliances don't get much stranger than that.
** Similar to the issue of the ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn, both the Religious Right and the porn industry are opposed to making it legal for women to go topless. The former believe that it's immoral, while the latter... Well, they feel that it would dramatically decrease business for them -- since there would no longer be a demand for "topless pornography".
*** Except, in several states (including New York) it IS legal for ANYONE to go topless, as long as they don't enter private businesses that request you not to (i.e. the famous "[[DressCode No shirt, no shoes, no service]]" rule).
** Margaret Atwood's ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'' has this unusual alliance to blame at least partially for the creation of [[{{Dystopia}} Gilead]].
** Similarly, the alliance between militant feminists and the Christian Right in banning the wearing of burqas (as seen in France and Belgium). Militant feminists think burqas oppress women and restrict their rights, while the Christian Right tend to cite "fundamentalism" creeping into society. Although burqas are banned in several explicitly Islamic nations already, so it's a bit more complicated than that, and burqa bans create an enemy mine on the other side of the fence: religious Muslims and political liberals (in the "small l" sense of "let people do what they want within reason."
** The list of things these two factions agree on gets longer: both have been critical of [[TheNewRockAndRoll heavy rock music,]] have shown a liking for [[MoralGuardians purging libraries]] of controversial books, both favor harsh 'law and order' stances against sex crimes, lean towards thinking that AllMenArePerverts whom it is woman's duty to [[WomenAreWiser set on the straight and narrow]] and in extreme cases, fully believe that SexIsEvil.
** Certain factions of the feminist movement have a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses strong distaste of the colour pink]], as [[PinkIsForSissies do many]] [[RatedMForManly chauvinistic dudebros]]. This irony is not lost on some of the moderate branches of feminism who believe that rejecting the concept of prescribed gender roles is ''not'' the same thing as rejecting anything considered "feminine" - and that hating pink (for reasons other than simple personal preferences) can be misogynistic itself.

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** It gets better. A proposal to create Pornography can produce stranger alliances than this. ICANN recently approved a ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn was recently approved by ICANN, resulting in an alliance between the Internet porn; who opposed it? The Religious Right (who fear Right, who feared that it will would legitimize pornography) pornography; and much of the porn industry (who fear industry, who feared that it will would lead to tighter regulation) against it. Alliances don't get much stranger than that.
stricter regulations.
** Similar to the issue of the ".xxx" top-level domain for internet porn, both the Religious Right and the porn industry are opposed oppose to making it legal for women to go topless. The former believe that it's immoral, while immoral; the latter... Well, they feel that it would dramatically decrease business for them -- since there would no longer be latter fear a demand for "topless pornography".
fall in demand.
*** Except, But in several states (including New York) it IS legal for ANYONE to go topless, as long as they don't enter private businesses that request you not to (i.e. the famous "[[DressCode No shirt, no shoes, no service]]" rule).
** Margaret Atwood's ''Literature/TheHandmaidsTale'' has blames exactly this unusual alliance to blame at (at least partially in part) for the creation of [[{{Dystopia}} Gilead]].
** Similarly, the alliance between militant Militant feminists and the Christian Right are also united in banning not caring for burqas; both backed the wearing of burqas (as seen burqa bans in France and Belgium). Belgium. Militant feminists think burqas oppress women and restrict their rights, while rights; the Christian Right tend to cite "fundamentalism" creeping into society. Although fears Islamic fundamentalism spreading in Christian (or post-Christian) societies. Meanwhile, burqas are banned in several explicitly Islamic nations already, so it's a bit more complicated than that, and burqa bans create an enemy mine countries, creating another EnemyMine on the other side of the fence: religious Muslims and political liberals (in the "small l" sense of "let people do what they want within reason."
reason").
** The list of things these two factions agree on gets longer: Radical feminists and Christian fundamentalists also both have been critical of condemn [[TheNewRockAndRoll heavy rock music,]] have shown a liking for [[MoralGuardians purging both like to purge libraries]] of controversial books, both favor harsh 'law and order' stances against sex crimes, lean towards thinking both suspect that that AllMenArePerverts whom it is woman's duty to who women must [[WomenAreWiser set keep on the straight and narrow]] and narrow path]], and, in extreme cases, fully believe both agree that SexIsEvil.
SexIsEvil. (Get a room, already. ... Oh, wait.)
** Certain factions of the feminist movement have a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses strong distaste of for the colour pink]], as [[PinkIsForSissies do many]] just like]] [[RatedMForManly chauvinistic dudebros]]. This irony is not lost on some of the moderate branches of feminism feminism, who believe emphasize that you can reject the idea of ''prescribed'' gender roles (i.e., gender roles more or less explicitly enforced by society) without rejecting the whole concept of prescribed gender roles is ''not'' the same thing as rejecting anything considered "feminine" - and that being feminine; hating pink (for reasons other than simple personal preferences) pink, they say, can be misogynistic itself.itself -- although individuals may have good personal reasons to dislike the color.



* Islamic and Christian fundamentalists are generally opposed to each other, with the subscribing to different religions and being, well, fundamentalists. However, creationist works and arguments critical of Darwinism tend to pass between both groups, as do tracts critical of homosexuality.
** Amongst the most extremist elements of both, this also applies to anti-Semitic tracts, most notably ''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''
* During the 1800 election in the United States, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton and UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson both decided that they hated Aaron Burr more than they hated each other, thus leading to Hamilton persuading the House of Representatives (Burr and Jefferson had tied in the Electoral College) to vote for Jefferson instead of Burr.
** Similarly in 1824, UsefulNotes/JohnQuincyAdams and UsefulNotes/HenryClay against UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson.

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* Islamic and Christian fundamentalists are generally opposed to each other, what with the subscribing to being fundamentalist supporters of different religions and being, well, fundamentalists. However, religions; but creationist works and arguments critical of Darwinism tend to pass circulate freely between both the two groups, as do tracts critical of homosexuality.
** Amongst
homosexuality -- and the most extremist elements terrorist lunatic fringes of both, this also applies to both religions read the same anti-Semitic tracts, most notably ''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''
''Literature/TheProtocolsOfTheEldersOfZion''.
* During the 1800 election in the United States, UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton and UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson both decided that they hated Aaron Burr more than they hated each other, thus leading to and so, when Burr and Jefferson tied in the electoral college, Hamilton persuading persuaded the House of Representatives (Burr and Jefferson had tied in the Electoral College) to vote for Jefferson instead of Burr.
** Similarly in 1824, UsefulNotes/JohnQuincyAdams and UsefulNotes/HenryClay united against UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson.
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