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7th Feb '16 10:36:19 AM nombretomado
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* Combine this trope with ApeShallNeverKillApe and you get the basic idea for TheCrusades.
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* Combine this trope with ApeShallNeverKillApe and you get the basic idea for TheCrusades. UsefulNotes/TheCrusades.
16th Jan '16 5:14:35 PM R1ck
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* The British General Election of 2010 brought about a coalition government of the right wing Conservative Party and the left wing Liberal Democrats. ** Not so odd if you know a bit more about both parties. The Liberal Democrat free-marketeers (which Clegg represents) and the Conservative liberals (which Cameron represents) have more in common than difference. What has caused problems is that the broader parties don't get on and, given how the middle-class Labour support shifted to the Liberal Democrats during the 2000s, Clegg essentially gambled and is now losing much of his party's newer supporters (and doubtless some of the older ones).
13th Jan '16 7:35:19 AM ClipboardFox22
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* John Denver, [[Music/TwistedSister Dee Snider]], and Music/FrankZappa once gave an anti-censorship presentation to the Parents Music Resource Center in defense of several hip-hop and heavy metal songs.
5th Jan '16 11:35:25 AM Paceman
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**Although in the case of the latter, this trope was still in full effect, as support for independence ranged from Business for Scotland to the Scottish Socialist Party, as well as the mutually hostile SNP and Green Party (the latter temporarily withdrawing at one point in protest at Yes Scotland becoming an "SNP vehicle"). Even some Labour rebels backed an independent Scotland while desperately hoping that the SNP would not be the ones to lead it...
31st Dec '15 11:43:20 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Not to mention that [[CriticalResearchFailure usually its niqabs, not burqas]] which are at issue. Actual burqas are very rare, and only seen widely in Taliban-ruled Afghanistan.

** More ironic still is that the United States considered their previous alliance with France voided by the revolution, and the two countries very nearly went to war. (This was mostly a {{Realpolitik}} excuse to avoid getting swept up in the French Revolutionary Wars.) *** Very nearly nothing. The Quasi-War saw the US and the French Republic engaging in naval combat and privateering against each other, with the Americans and British (who also were at war with France at the time) unofficially supporting each others' efforts. ** France and the nascent US allying is even weirder when you consider that many of the colonial officers had ''personally'' fought against the French about a decade and a half before in what was called in North America "the French and Indian War", but there was such a long-standing enmity between the French and the British that either side would have allied with Satan himself to tweak the other, and the colonists were really in no position to be refusing help from anybody.
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** More ironic still is that the United States considered their previous alliance with France voided by the revolution, and the two countries very nearly went to war. (This was mostly a {{Realpolitik}} excuse to avoid getting swept up in the French Revolutionary Wars.) *** Very nearly nothing. The Quasi-War saw the US and the French Republic engaging in naval combat and privateering against each other, with the Americans and British (who also were at war with France at the time) unofficially supporting each others' efforts. ** France and the nascent US allying is even weirder when you consider that many of the colonial officers had ''personally'' fought against the French about a decade and a half before in what was called in North America "the French and Indian War", but there was such a long-standing enmity between the French and the British that either side would have allied with Satan himself to tweak the other, and the colonists were really in no position to be refusing help from anybody.

** It gets even better. To this day, both Bonapartists and legitimists[[note]]Yes, they still exist[[/note]] are considered the far right in France, so they are united by their mutual disdain of democracy.

** [[UsefulNotes/EastGermany Didn't work out so well for Germany in the long run, did it?]] ** The parliamentary democracy of France forged an an alliance (the Entente Cordiale) with autocratic Czarist Russia, and later democratic Britain, against semi-democratic Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary. When the U.S. was thinking of entering the war, Russia's February Revolution happened and the Wilson administration welcomed the development as removing the last obstacle to a "democracy vs. dictatorship" narrative.
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** [[UsefulNotes/EastGermany Didn't work out so well for Germany in the long run, did it?]] ** * The parliamentary democracy of France forged an an alliance (the Entente Cordiale) with autocratic Czarist Russia, and later democratic Britain, against semi-democratic Imperial Germany and Austria-Hungary. When the U.S. was thinking of entering the war, Russia's February Revolution happened and the Wilson administration welcomed the development as removing the last obstacle to a "democracy vs. dictatorship" narrative.

*** Though, this ended up more around the lines of the Guomindang forces doing most of the work while other warlords rode on their coattails and the Communists [[DirtyCoward avoided most of the fighting]], doing only small scale guerrilla warfare, and [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder occasionally firing upon Guomindang forces, as well]]. After the Japanese were defeated the [[MagnificentBastard Communists]] eventually crushed the disparate warlords and war-weary and overstretched Gumindang. ** The Soviets and Nazis declared a nonaggression pact, though both considered it merely a stalling action before war broke out. Germany broke the treaty first and attacked. *** Specifically Germany wanted the USSR out of the way so that they could defeat Britain and then attack the USSR because they wanted to avoid a two-front war. The USSR wanted to wait as long as possible so that they could get their factories and army up to full capacity. Obviously Germany never took Britain and attacked the USSR before they were entirely ready (and also allowed itself to get sidetracked by a mission to clean up the mess Mussolini had made in the Balkans), thus causing a two-front war anyway. *** Part of the Nazis stated policy was to a) destroy the Communist threat to the German state and b) annex, ethnically-cleanse and settle the Slavic lands as part of the ideology of obtaining 'Lebensraum' for ethnic Germans. It is very unlikely that Hitler ever intended to honor the pact. **** Actually, Stalin knew that. He believed that Germany would eventually invade the USSR. The reason he entered the non-aggression pact was to buy time to prepare for the invasion. *** There is evidence that at one point Germany offered to let the USSR join the Axis, but the USSR wanted too much in exchange (control of Finland, Turkey, and eventually the Persian Gulf). Plans to invade the USSR were drawn up soon after. *** In ''Literature/MeinKampf'' Hitler declares his intention to conquer the USSR. It appears that the Soviet Union was the only place where it was read.
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*** Though, this ended up more around the lines of the Guomindang forces doing most of the work while other warlords rode on their coattails and the Communists [[DirtyCoward avoided most of the fighting]], doing only small scale guerrilla warfare, and [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder occasionally firing upon Guomindang forces, as well]]. After the Japanese were defeated the [[MagnificentBastard Communists]] eventually crushed the disparate warlords and war-weary and overstretched Gumindang. ** The Soviets and Nazis declared a nonaggression pact, though both considered it merely a stalling action before war broke out. Germany broke the treaty first and attacked. *** Specifically Germany wanted the USSR out of the way so that they could defeat Britain and then attack the USSR because they wanted to avoid a two-front war. The USSR wanted to wait as long as possible so that they could get their factories and army up to full capacity. Obviously Germany never took Britain and attacked the USSR before they were entirely ready (and also allowed itself to get sidetracked by a mission to clean up the mess Mussolini had made in the Balkans), thus causing a two-front war anyway. *** Part of the Nazis stated policy was to a) destroy the Communist threat to the German state and b) annex, ethnically-cleanse and settle the Slavic lands as part of the ideology of obtaining 'Lebensraum' for ethnic Germans. It is very unlikely that Hitler ever intended to honor the pact. **** Actually, Stalin knew that. He believed that Germany would eventually invade the USSR. The reason he entered the non-aggression pact was to buy time to prepare for the invasion. *** There is evidence that at one point Germany offered to let the USSR join the Axis, but the USSR wanted too much in exchange (control of Finland, Turkey, and eventually the Persian Gulf). Plans to invade the USSR were drawn up soon after. *** In ''Literature/MeinKampf'' Hitler declares his intention to conquer the USSR. It appears that the Soviet Union was the only place where it was read.anyway.

*** Only a very small number of Indians sided with the Axis, and were generally of little consequence. *** Complicated further by Hitler never wanting to go to war with Britain. In fact it's been suggested that he originally wanted an Anglo-German alliance and he initially admired the British for their military and empire-building capability. Had Edward VIII remained on the throne, this could've likely happened, or at least, Hitler thought so, and wondered WhatCouldHaveBeen if he had. **** It's a reasonable thought for him to have had. Politics makes strange bedfellows was ''literally'' true in the European ruling houses, most of whom were actually related to each other. Eddie's great-grandfather ''was'' German; the Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. For that matter, the English royal line stemmed from George I, who prior to becoming King had been the Elector of Hanover, and both he and his son (George II) were German speakers who grew up in Germany. Edward VIII's pro-Nazi leanings were likely the real reason he was hustled off the throne; Wallis Simpson was just the excuse. **** The real reason it took the Nazis so long to bomb Britain is because Hitler admired the country enough to not want to destroy it. He offered Churchill numerous offers of peace, all of which were turned down. And while Hitler always intended to invade the Soviet Union, the reason he did it earlier than expected was in hopes that if he could crush Russia, Britain would be intimidated into surrendering. Had many other countries not gotten involved, this might have worked. **** Not to mention that in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, Italy and Japan fought on the Allied side. It thus wasn't inconceivable for switches to happen. *** For the Slavs to get around the cognitive dissonance, both Himmler and the Croatian puppet government with its Axis sympathizers [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Origin agreed]] that Croats (Balkan Slavs in general by their definition of Croat), whether Catholic or Muslim (but not Orthodox or Jew) were not Slavs at all, but Aryans who happened to speak a Slavic language. This is why certain Slavs were allowed into the German military. Western Ukrainians, still angry about Stalin causing the worst [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor cataclysm]] in their country's recorded history, also supported the Nazis in significant numbers (though far more joined the Red Army). Despite their common perceived enemy of the Red Army, the Nazis would not overlook the Ukrainians' Slavic "race" for long and paid them back with betrayal, so the Western Ukrainian support turned away from the Axis. *** In Yugoslavia, the Croatian Ustase fascists (who routinely massacred Serbs) and the Serbian Chetnik fascists (who routinely massacred Croats) teamed up in order to fight Tito's Communist partisans. *** White Emigres(anti-Bolshevik Russian emigrants) have a mixed stance, most of them have a neutral stance believing that the Nazis & Soviets are equally evil, but some have found for themselves what evil is lesser, like Russian Corps & various Cossack detachments who allied themselves with the Nazis & fought mostly in anti-partisan operations in Yugoslavia, and White Guard general Anton Denikin sent medical supplies to the Red Army. ** Perhaps the strangest of bedfellows during WWII were Nazis and Jews. Nazism and Zionism had a common goal, that being the removal of Jews from Europe. So during the early days of the NSDAP, one of the biggest financial contributors was a Zionist organization. After the Nazis were firmly in control of Germany, they began funding Zionist programs to ship Jews off to Palestine. For three years, Zionists were even working directly with Reinhard Heydrich to achieve this. *** Zionists were among the groups of Jews that an exception was made for, when it came to which Jews were to be sent to concentration camps. Also, the Nazis banned all other political parties in Germany, except for the Zionist Party. **** Another instance of Nazis and Jews working together was the Wehrmacht allowing Jews classified as "Mischling" (Germans who were only half or one-quarter Jewish) to fight for the Third Reich. The reasons for why these people wanted to fight for Nazi Germany was varied. Some of them were able to use their military position to protect their Jewish relatives from being persecuted. Some were Zionists who approved of Nazism. Others were simply patriotic Germans who, while part Jewish, still blindly supported their country. And finally, there were both Mischlings and Slavs who, while knowing they were considered inferior by the Nazis, still considered the Soviet Union to be the far greater evil. ***** The Judenrat (Jewish council) were administrative bodies that Jews were required to form in territory occupied by the Nazis. Many of these councilors worked with the SS directly, including in the process of liquidating Jews. Today the role of the Judenrat in the Holocaust is very controversial. They're either seen as opportunists who sold their fellow Jews out, or people who were forced into that role by the Nazis out of fear.

*** Worth noting, at the same time, the Irish also had plans in place for fighting off a ''British'' invasion with ''German'' assistance. Ireland's strategically valuable location meant they could not afford to assume either side would have qualms about invading if it meant launching or averting an invasion of Great Britain. *** Within Britain itself, World War II had the effect of bringing together different social classes that had previously never seen eye to eye.

*** Soviet wargames of the 1920s and 1930s made it quite clear that in the event of a two-theatre war with a European (e.g. Poland) and an East Asian power (generally assumed to be Japan), East Asia would get second-priority. In the actual games themselves, commanders who accepted the loss of the eastern thousand or even two thousand kilometers of the country - and used the time and forces thus saved to deal with the European enemy - were praised for their sound grasp of strategic priorities. Indeed, this is exactly what happened in the Russian Civil War, wherein the Soviets conquered Siberia last, and in World War Two - in which the Soviets virtually emptied Soviet East Asia immediately upon the German invasion. By the time Richard Sorge told the Soviets about the Japanese Army's decision not to invade the USSR in August 1941, the Soviets had no forces left to move.

*** However, there was still a lot of public sentiment against Japan into the 1980s. It finally subsided as the World War II generation began retiring in large numbers.

** Not so surprising, as piracy has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostis_humani_generis long been regarded]] in international law as AlwaysChaoticEvil.

** Didn't stop the latter from housing Osama bin Laden, though... ** Some commentators have suggested that TheWarOnTerror might help bring an end to the lingering Cold War mindset between the U.S. and Russia. After all, both countries are engaged in wars against Islamic terrorists, right? So far, [[MakeTheBearAngryAgain it doesn't seem to be working]]. *** If anything, end of TheWarOnTerror saw the United States slip back into a state of Cold War, and they now find themselves on the opposite sides of various proxy conflicts (notably the Syrian Civil War). ** Since September 11th, Islamic fundamentalists have found sympathizers on both the far-right and the far-left of western politics. Islamic fundamentalists and the far-right are united by their anti-Semitism. In the words of neo-Nazi Billy Roper, "The enemy of our enemy is, for now at least, our friends. We may not want them marrying our daughters, just as they would not want us marrying theirs. We may not want them in our societies, just as they would not want us in theirs. But anyone who is willing to drive a plane into a building to kill Jews is alright by me." Meanwhile, Islamic fundamentalists and the far-left may disagree on almost everything else, from women's rights to the separation of church and state, but they're united by their shared opposition to what they see as western imperialism. The latter has played out on the international stage, with the alliance between socialist Venezuela and theocratic Iran. *** It goes back earlier with Tom Metzger of White Aryan Resistance and Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam, who met on friendly terms in the 1980s out of a common anti-Semitism.
19th Dec '15 4:21:18 PM AFP
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**** Not to mention that in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, Italy fought on the Allied side. It thus wasn't inconceivable for switches to happen.
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**** Not to mention that in UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne, Italy and Japan fought on the Allied side. It thus wasn't inconceivable for switches to happen.
19th Dec '15 4:15:57 PM AFP
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*** Very nearly nothing. The Quasi-War saw the US and the French Republic engaging in naval combat and privateering against each other, with the Americans and British (who also were at war with France at the time) unofficially supporting each others' efforts.
9th Dec '15 9:15:34 AM Berrenta
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IUEO trope
* Companies like Website/{{Google}} and Microsoft have always had their conflicts. But as soon as bills like SOPA showed their fangs? Suddenly, the ''[[UpToEleven entire internet]]'' was united to [[InternetCounterattack fight back]]. Whether the companies fight for freedom or money is unknown, but no one seemed to care anyway.
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* Companies like Website/{{Google}} and Microsoft have always had their conflicts. But as soon as bills like SOPA showed their fangs? Suddenly, the ''[[UpToEleven entire internet]]'' was united to [[InternetCounterattack fight back]].back. Whether the companies fight for freedom or money is unknown, but no one seemed to care anyway.
12th Nov '15 2:57:53 PM BookReaderUSA
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** Has happened again in December 2014, with the passing of the "[=CRomnibus=] Spending Bill"[[note]] the name is slang for "Continuing Resoulution[=/=]Omnibus"[[/note]], when Conservatives, and Liberals united against the Democrat, and Republican party leaders in power, namely President Obama for the Democrats, and House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch [=McConnel=] for the Republicans. The Liberals, led by Congresswomen Elizabeth Warren and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi were angry at the bills benefits and earmark spending to big money donors, especially in removing restrictions on political donations. Conservatives, led by Congressmen Ted Cruz and Mike Lee likewise were also angry at the Republican party for immediately going back on their promises to the conservative base, promises which the Republican party had just made to win the 2014 mid-term elections in November, rather than the base which came out to vote for them, as well as failing to challenge President Obama on several of his executive orders.
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** Has happened again in December 2014, with the passing of the "[=CRomnibus=] Spending Bill"[[note]] the name is slang for "Continuing Resoulution[=/=]Omnibus"[[/note]], when Conservatives, Conservatives and Liberals united against the Democrat, Democrat and Republican party leaders in power, namely President Obama for the Democrats, and House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch [=McConnel=] for the Republicans. The Liberals, led by Congresswomen Elizabeth Warren and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi were angry at the bills benefits and earmark spending to big money donors, especially in removing restrictions on political donations. Conservatives, led by Congressmen Ted Cruz and Mike Lee likewise were also angry at the Republican party for immediately going back on their promises to the conservative base, promises which the Republican party had just made to win the 2014 mid-term elections in November, rather than the base which came out to vote for them, as well as failing to challenge President Obama on several of his executive orders.

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** Has happened again in December 2014, with * Likewise, the passing of Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy received criticism from both the "[=CRomnibus=] Spending Bill"[[note]] left ''and'' the name is slang for "Continuing Resoulution[=/=]Omnibus"[[/note]], when Conservatives, and Liberals united against right in American politics during its height. Many left-wing LGBT-rights activists opposed the Democrat, and Republican party leaders in power, namely President Obama for the Democrats, and House Speaker John Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch [=McConnel=] for the Republicans. The Liberals, led by Congresswomen Elizabeth Warren and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi were angry at the bills benefits and earmark spending to big money donors, especially in removing restrictions on political donations. Conservatives, led by Congressmen Ted Cruz and Mike Lee likewise were also angry at the Republican party for immediately going back on their promises to the conservative base, promises which the Republican party had just made to win the 2014 mid-term elections in November, rather than the base which came out to vote for them, as well as failing to challenge President Obama on several of his executive orders. policy because they believed that it wasn't inclusive enough towards LGBT people, while right-wing LGBT-rights opponents thought it was ''too'' inclusive.
9th Nov '15 2:41:02 PM Lanthorn
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** Averted with one group of Houthi rebels in Yemin, according to ''[[Creator/{{HBO}} VICE]]'': Their segment was titled "The Enemy of My Enemy" (is still my enemy) and they hate America as much as they hate ISIS.
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