History EnemyMine / RealLife

30th Jul '17 10:24:48 PM star3catcher
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* In 2004, Science Fiction and Fantasy put aside their differences in order to unite against [=PublishAmerica=], a book publisher that had been well known as a vanity press that paid little to no attention to the quality of the books they published, yet nonetheless felt the need to proudly describe themselves as a "traditional publisher" and deride sci-fi and fantasy as "easy" and unable to produce believable stories. In response, a group of sci-fi and fantasy authors teamed up in order to create {{Literature/Atlanta Nights}}, a novel designed to be horrendously unpublishable. They purposely loaded it with an incomprehensible plot, spelling and grammar errors, and numerous inconsistencies such as characters frequently changing ages, names, and even gender, then shipped it off to [=PublishAmerica=] under the pseudonym "Travis Tea" ("travesty"). Despite the book's obvious flaws and the less-than-subtle pseudonym, "Atlanta Nights" was accepted for publishing, whereupon the team revealed the hoax and [=PublishAmerica=] quickly retracted their acceptance "upon further inspection."

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* In 2004, Science Fiction and Fantasy put aside their differences in order to unite against [=PublishAmerica=], a book publisher that had been well known as a vanity press for VanityPublishing that paid little to no attention to the quality of the books they published, yet nonetheless felt the need to proudly describe themselves as a "traditional publisher" and deride sci-fi and fantasy as "easy" and unable to produce believable stories. In response, a group of sci-fi and fantasy authors teamed up in order to create {{Literature/Atlanta Nights}}, a novel designed to be horrendously unpublishable. They purposely loaded it with an incomprehensible plot, spelling and grammar errors, and numerous inconsistencies such as characters frequently changing ages, names, and even gender, then shipped it off to [=PublishAmerica=] under the pseudonym "Travis Tea" ("travesty"). Despite the book's obvious flaws and the less-than-subtle pseudonym, "Atlanta Nights" was accepted for publishing, whereupon the team revealed the hoax and [=PublishAmerica=] quickly retracted their acceptance "upon further inspection."
30th Jul '17 10:22:25 PM star3catcher
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* In 2004, Science Fiction and Fantasy put aside their differences in order to unite against [=PublishAmerica=], a book publisher that had been well known as a vanity press that paid little to no attention to the quality of the books they published, yet nonetheless felt the need to proudly describe themselves as a "traditional publisher" and deride sci-fi and fantasy as "easy" and unable to produce believable stories. In response, a group of sci-fi and fantasy authors teamed up in order to create {{Literature/Atlanta Nights}}, a novel designed to be horrendously unpublishable. They purposely loaded it with an incomprehensible plot, spelling and grammar errors, and numerous inconsistencies such as characters frequently changing ages, names, and even gender, then shipped it off to [=PublishAmerica=] under the pseudonym "Travis Tea" ("travesty"). Despite the book's obvious flaws and the less-than-subtle pseudonym, "Atlanta Nights" was accepted for publishing, whereupon the team revealed the hoax and [=PublishAmerica=] quickly retracted their acceptance "upon further inspection."
9th Jul '17 3:41:37 PM WaterBlap
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* The Western far-right and far-left seem to really love UsefulNotes/VladimirPutin, almost as much as they hate Israel. Putin's right-wing supporters include social conservatives who admire his stance against the gays, Christian fundamentalists who argue that he's reviving the Russian Orthodox Church while the West continues to become "godless", and anti-EU nationalists. His left-wing supporters include aging old-school communists seemingly defending Russia by force of habit and hardcore anti-imperialists willing to embrace any opponent of American hegemony, as well as mutual hatred of the EU and NATO. In addition of admiring Putin in the recent times, both Russian monarchists and communists (who have had a conservative moral stance dating back to the Soviet era) don't take kindly towards liberalism (in a generic sense) for contributing nothing but chaos, and undoing centuries of Imperial and Soviet achievements which was later partly restored by Putin. Also, they seem to unite against nationalists of neighboring nations like Ukraine and Chechnya, seeing them as Western tools to weaken Russian hegemony.
** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA leftists like Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as UsefulNotes/RonPaul.



* Following the 2016 Orlando Shootings some members of the Republican Party, such as Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich, tried to bring LGBT voters over on the basis that their community was being targetted by Islamic Terrorists, and the Republican Party would be better at protecting them than the Democrats. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement The sincerity or morality of this move is beyond the scope of this article.]] It is notable, however, that the call received cheers when presented in speeches at the RNC, but attempts to adopt an amendement condemning ISIS for its crimes against the LGBT Community in the Party Platform was voted down.
* HillaryClinton lampshaded during the Al Smith dinner that her and Trump agreed on one thing, disliking former presidential candidate Senator Ted Cruz.
* When Creator/DonaldTrump secured the Republican nomination in the 2016 US presidential election and won, he proved to be so polarising that his opponents have invoked this on numerous occasions:
** Around the halfway point of the contentious 2016 Republican primaries, Cruz himself ended up on the active end of this trope, effectively teaming up with fellow candidate, the more moderate Governor John Kasich, against radical and controversial frontrunner Donald Trump. While neither candidate dropped out of the race completely at the time, they struck a deal wherein they stopped running in states where the other was leading, thus creating a greater possibility of denying Trump (who had a substantial lead overall) from getting the delegates necessary to automatically win the nomination.
*** When this strategy ultimately failed, both candidates suspended their campaigns and, along with many other Trump opponents within the Republicans, started supporting him, for the sake of keeping the party united against the Democrats in the actual election.
** Similar to the Republicans mentioned above, Bernie Sanders invoked this when he formally endorsed UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton in 2016 after a contentious primary season, saying that the Democrats had to be united in defeating Trump. Unfortunately for the left, many of Sanders' supporters failed to get behind Clinton, ultimately costing her the election. But immediately after Trump won, that gap divided
** Hillary Clinton's detractors on both the left and the right have called on her to be indicted for her email improprieties, to the point where it's difficult sometimes to tell Trump supporters from diehard supporters of Sanders.
** Due to Creator/DonaldTrump's anti-Muslim rhetoric and the rise of anti-Semitism in the wake of Trump's election, [[http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/us/muslim-jewish-alliance-after-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fus&action=click&contentCollection=us&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront American Muslim and Jewish groups have joined forces]] despite [[UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict their differences over Israel]].
** Ethnic and religious groups aside, opposition to Donald Trump's presidency has also created some strange political bedfellows. Trump's opponents include conservatives like UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, John [=McCain=], Marco Rubio, John Kasich and Evan [=McMullin=] (who ran an independent Presidential campaign and was most popular in Utah), neoliberals like Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, as well as progressives like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. After Trump's election, many of the Republicans voiced support for Trump but still not all of his policies, with [=McCain=] criticizing Trump's support of Vladimir Putin. While the left has opposed Trump from the get-go (with the possible exception of the "Bernie-or-Bust" crowd) other neoconservative intellectuals such as William Kristol and David Frum have been vocal detractors of Trump as part of the "Never Trump" movement. The most common reason cited is the anti-Semitism on the part of Trump's most ardent supporters, with many neoconservatives being Jewish.
* In March 2017, the American Health Care Act (the Trump administration's proposed replacement for Obamacare) was set to go to vote on the floor of the House of Representatives. But not only did it face universal opposition from the Democrats (who naturally felt that the Republicans were trying to throw out a perfectly good plan for one that would be less effective), but also from many conservative Republicans (especially the ultraconservative Freedom Caucus), who felt that it kept too ''much'' of Obamacare's structure. And attempts by Trump and his allies to appease the conservatives by making changes to the AHCA just alienated more moderate Republicans, who felt the pandering to the right would result in a healthcare plan that would leave too many people screwed over. In the end, the AHCA got pulled from the agenda the same day it was supposed to go to vote, put on hold indefinitely.

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* Following the 2016 Orlando Shootings some members of the Republican Party, such as Donald Trump and Newt Gingrich, tried to bring LGBT voters over on the basis that their community was being targetted by Islamic Terrorists, and the Republican Party would be better at protecting them than the Democrats. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement The sincerity or morality of this move is beyond the scope of this article.]] It is notable, however, that the call received cheers when presented in speeches at the RNC, but attempts to adopt an amendement condemning ISIS for its crimes against the LGBT Community in the Party Platform was voted down.
* HillaryClinton
UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton lampshaded during the Al Smith dinner that her she and Trump UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump agreed on one thing, disliking former presidential candidate Senator Ted Cruz.
* When Creator/DonaldTrump secured the Republican nomination in the 2016 US presidential election and won, he proved to be so polarising that his opponents have invoked this on numerous occasions:
** Around the halfway point of the contentious 2016 Republican primaries, Cruz himself ended up on the active end of this trope, effectively teaming up with fellow candidate, the more moderate Governor John Kasich, against radical and controversial frontrunner Donald Trump. While neither candidate dropped out of the race completely at the time, they struck a deal wherein they stopped running in states where the other was leading, thus creating a greater possibility of denying Trump (who had a substantial lead overall) from getting the delegates necessary to automatically win the nomination.
*** When this strategy ultimately failed, both candidates suspended their campaigns and, along with many other Trump opponents within the Republicans, started supporting him, for the sake of keeping the party united against the Democrats in the actual election.
** Similar to the Republicans mentioned above, Bernie Sanders invoked this when he formally endorsed UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton in 2016 after a contentious primary season, saying that the Democrats had to be united in defeating Trump. Unfortunately for the left, many of Sanders' supporters failed to get behind Clinton, ultimately costing her the election. But immediately after Trump won, that gap divided
** Hillary Clinton's detractors on both the left and the right have called on her to be indicted for her email improprieties, to the point where it's difficult sometimes to tell Trump supporters from diehard supporters of Sanders.
** Due to Creator/DonaldTrump's anti-Muslim rhetoric and the rise of anti-Semitism in the wake of Trump's election, [[http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/us/muslim-jewish-alliance-after-trump.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fus&action=click&contentCollection=us&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront American Muslim and Jewish groups have joined forces]] despite [[UsefulNotes/ArabIsraeliConflict their differences over Israel]].
** Ethnic and religious groups aside, opposition to Donald Trump's presidency has also created some strange political bedfellows. Trump's opponents include conservatives like UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, John [=McCain=], Marco Rubio, John Kasich and Evan [=McMullin=] (who ran an independent Presidential campaign and was most popular in Utah), neoliberals like Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, as well as progressives like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. After Trump's election, many of the Republicans voiced support for Trump but still not all of his policies, with [=McCain=] criticizing Trump's support of Vladimir Putin. While the left has opposed Trump from the get-go (with the possible exception of the "Bernie-or-Bust" crowd) other neoconservative intellectuals such as William Kristol and David Frum have been vocal detractors of Trump as part of the "Never Trump" movement. The most common reason cited is the anti-Semitism on the part of Trump's most ardent supporters, with many neoconservatives being Jewish.
* In March 2017, the American Health Care Act (the Trump administration's proposed replacement for Obamacare) was set to go to vote on the floor of the House of Representatives. But not only did it face universal opposition from the Democrats (who naturally felt that the Republicans were trying to throw out a perfectly good plan for one that would be less effective), but also from many conservative Republicans (especially the ultraconservative Freedom Caucus), who felt that it kept too ''much'' of Obamacare's structure. And attempts by Trump and his allies to appease the conservatives by making changes to the AHCA just alienated more moderate Republicans, who felt the pandering to the right would result in a healthcare plan that would leave too many people screwed over. In the end, the AHCA got pulled from the agenda the same day it was supposed to go to vote, put on hold indefinitely.
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5th Jul '17 5:14:01 AM Piterpicher
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** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA leftists like Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as RonPaul.

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** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA leftists like Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as RonPaul.UsefulNotes/RonPaul.
3rd Jul '17 1:07:23 AM Vir
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* The [[TheWarOnTerror September 11 attacks]] brought a few of these out of the woodwork, as governments who aren't exactly known for their fondness of the American government condemned the attacks and the terrorism that caused them. Among these governments? ''Iran, North Korea and the Taliban''. (At least officially.)
* Today, with ISIS terrorizing Iraq, a very odd alliance has cropped up with [[YanksWithTanks American airpower]] working alongside [[https://medium.com/war-is-boring/iran-sends-tanks-into-iraq-to-fight-islamists-d130c9fa58bb Iranian tanks]], both coordinating with [[LaResistance Kurdish rebels]]- the same people Iran had been fighting in their own northern territories before. ISIS seems to be EvilerThanThou from Iran's perspective, and the U.S.A. just doesn't want ISIS to win. Also, the Russians (which has a tense relationship with the Western world since 2014) provided Iraq & Assad's Syria with fighter jets & other supplies, by September 2015 Russia puts their boots on the ground in support of the Assad government, and there are earlier reports of Russian volunteers among the Kurdish resistance.
** In fact, ISIS may be a major modern example - most charts and graphs you can find on the web suggest they're pretty much enemies with everyone else in the Middle East, not to say the world at large. (For reference, Indonesia, the country housing the world's largest amount of Muslims, staunchly condemns them.) [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even]] some branches of ''Al Qaida'' now condemn their actions - though in their case, it's more because they feel ISIS' intractable behavior does more harm than good to the Islamic cause than because of their ideology, because they supported them before. Even then, if there's only one thing in ISIS' favour, it's the [[WeAreStrugglingTogether fractiousness of its opponents]] and [[GambitPileup colliding vested interests]], which could be best summed up [[http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html by this chart]]. [[http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/12/3447800/iraq-syria-chart/ And this chart]]. [[http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/3235758-155/trump-mattershttpwwwsltribcomhome3224420-155bagley-cartoon-trump-matters-spirit-of-the-seasonhttpw And this cartoon by Pat Bagley]].
** In the early stages of the civil war, Al-Qaeda backed Islamists were this to secular factions like the Free Syrian Army. Despite their intense and mutual disdain for one another, both sides shared a common goal in getting rid of Assad. The beleaguered and poorly-armed FSA came to value these Islamist extremists as shock troops, until ideological disagreements inevitably tore apart the fragile alliance.
** Several former American & British special forces operators & members of the [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic militia movement]] volunteered to fight alongside the predominantly ''communist'' Kurdish resistance. Cue many American right-wing patriots cheering these fighters.

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* The [[TheWarOnTerror The September 11 attacks]] attacks brought a few of these out of the woodwork, as governments who aren't exactly known for their fondness of the American government condemned the attacks and the terrorism that caused them. Among these governments? ''Iran, North Korea and the Taliban''. (At least officially.)
* Today, with ISIS terrorizing Iraq, a very odd alliance has cropped up with [[YanksWithTanks American airpower]] working alongside [[https://medium.com/war-is-boring/iran-sends-tanks-into-iraq-to-fight-islamists-d130c9fa58bb Iranian tanks]], both coordinating with [[LaResistance Kurdish rebels]]- the same people Iran had been fighting in their own northern territories before. ISIS seems to be EvilerThanThou from Iran's perspective, and the U.S.A. just doesn't want ISIS to win. Also, the Russians (which has (who have had a tense relationship with the Western world since 2014) provided Iraq & and Assad's Syria with fighter jets & and other supplies, by supplies. By September 2015 Russia puts put their boots on the ground in support of the Assad government, and there are earlier reports of Russian volunteers among the Kurdish resistance.
** In fact, ISIS may be a major modern example - most charts and graphs you can find on the web suggest they're pretty much enemies with everyone else in the Middle East, not to say the world at large. (For reference, Indonesia, the country housing the world's largest amount of Muslims, staunchly condemns them.) [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even]] some branches of ''Al Qaida'' ''Al-Qaeda'' now condemn their actions - though in their case, it's more because they feel ISIS' intractable behavior does more harm than good to the Islamic cause than because of their ideology, because they supported them before. Even then, if there's only one thing in ISIS' favour, it's the [[WeAreStrugglingTogether fractiousness of its opponents]] and [[GambitPileup colliding vested interests]], which could be best summed up [[http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html by this chart]]. [[http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/12/3447800/iraq-syria-chart/ And this chart]]. [[http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/3235758-155/trump-mattershttpwwwsltribcomhome3224420-155bagley-cartoon-trump-matters-spirit-of-the-seasonhttpw And this cartoon by Pat Bagley]].
** In the early stages of the civil war, Al-Qaeda backed Al-Qaeda-backed Islamists were this to secular factions like the Free Syrian Army. Despite their intense and mutual disdain for one another, both sides shared a common goal in getting rid of Assad. The beleaguered and poorly-armed FSA came to value these Islamist extremists as shock troops, until ideological disagreements inevitably tore apart the fragile alliance.
** Several former American & and British special forces operators & and members of the [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic militia movement]] volunteered to fight alongside the predominantly ''communist'' Kurdish resistance. Cue many American right-wing patriots cheering these fighters.
17th Jun '17 10:33:37 AM nombretomado
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* Heading into the last game of the 2014 [[RugbyUnion Six Nations Championship]], England were to be the champions if France, England's longstanding rivals, won against Ireland. English fans on social media commented on how odd it feels to be cheering on France.

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* Heading into the last game of the 2014 [[RugbyUnion [[UsefulNotes/RugbyUnion Six Nations Championship]], England were to be the champions if France, England's longstanding rivals, won against Ireland. English fans on social media commented on how odd it feels to be cheering on France.
10th Jun '17 8:55:04 PM DavidDelony
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** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA liberals like Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as RonPaul.

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** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA liberals leftists like Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as RonPaul.
10th Jun '17 7:04:43 PM doomsday524
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* The whole NSA scandal has produced some really strange alliances. The anti-Snowden camp has UsefulNotes/BarackObama, John Boehner, Michele Bachmann, Nancy Pelosi, UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton, Dick Cheney, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, John [=McCain=], and Creator/AlFranken. Meanwhile, the pro-Snowden camp contains UsefulNotes/AlGore, UsefulNotes/SarahPalin, UsefulNotes/RonPaul, Creator/MichaelMoore, and Radio/GlennBeck. And there's also Bill Maher who hasn't seemed to have picked a side yet.

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* The whole NSA scandal has produced some really strange alliances. The anti-Snowden camp has UsefulNotes/BarackObama, John Boehner, Michele Bachmann, Nancy Pelosi, UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton, Dick Cheney, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, John [=McCain=], Dianne Feinstein, Mitch [=McConnell=], Peter King and Creator/AlFranken. Meanwhile, the pro-Snowden camp contains UsefulNotes/AlGore, UsefulNotes/SarahPalin, UsefulNotes/RonPaul, Creator/MichaelMoore, and Radio/GlennBeck. And there's also Bill Maher who hasn't seemed to have picked a side yet.



** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters and anti-Hillary-and-CIA liberals like Jimmy Dore and Kyle Kulinski.

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** Many Democrats such as HillaryClinton, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer Schumer, KeithOlbermann, BillMaher and RachelMaddow believe Putin likely hacked the DNC's emails for DonaldTrump, who they see as Vlad's puppet. They're joined by both a number of CIA officials and Republicans such as John [=McCain=], Lindsey Graham and Dick Cheney. On the other side, these claims are dismissed by both Trump supporters (along with Trump himself and his White House) and anti-Hillary-and-CIA liberals like Jimmy Dore and Dore, Kyle Kulinski.Kulinski, Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, and Jill Stein along with Libertarians who may still be critical of Trump in other areas such as RonPaul.
23rd May '17 5:36:58 AM DragonAtma
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* For most of China's ThreeKingdoms period, Shu and Wu teamed up to oppose a much stronger Wei/Jin... except for the campaigns of 219-222, where Wu attacked Shu and briefly submitted to Wei.
15th May '17 7:20:40 PM nombretomado
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** It is interesting that on the old Israel Insider website - a ''very'' partisan propaganda site for Israeli expansionism - many comment pieces were written by [[TheTroubles Northern Irish Unionists/Loyalists]], including a regular commentator known for his association with extremist Loyalist factions. The particular loyalist grouping this commentator was associated with had strong links to far-right groupings such as Column 88 and the National Front, organisations hitherto not renowned for being pro-Jewish or sympathetic to Israel. The reasoning appeared to be both parties involved drawing parallels to a terrorist threat (the IRA/Hamas) drawn from a subject population who knew no better than blind hatred and violence towards their neighbours who were treating them with nothing other than forbearance and kindly understanding, despite all provocations. What Israelis or Ulster loyalists might have done to alienate and disaffect their neighbours was never spoken of, but the strong implication was that the two terrorist groupings were working together as a threat to world civilisation.

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** It is interesting that on the old Israel Insider website - a ''very'' partisan propaganda site for Israeli expansionism - many comment pieces were written by [[TheTroubles [[UsefulNotes/TheTroubles Northern Irish Unionists/Loyalists]], including a regular commentator known for his association with extremist Loyalist factions. The particular loyalist grouping this commentator was associated with had strong links to far-right groupings such as Column 88 and the National Front, organisations hitherto not renowned for being pro-Jewish or sympathetic to Israel. The reasoning appeared to be both parties involved drawing parallels to a terrorist threat (the IRA/Hamas) drawn from a subject population who knew no better than blind hatred and violence towards their neighbours who were treating them with nothing other than forbearance and kindly understanding, despite all provocations. What Israelis or Ulster loyalists might have done to alienate and disaffect their neighbours was never spoken of, but the strong implication was that the two terrorist groupings were working together as a threat to world civilisation.
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