History EarlyInstallmentWeirdness / Toys

9th May '18 12:44:11 PM MagiMecha
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* The first three dolls of the [[Toys/AmericanGirlsCollection American Girl line]]--Samantha, Kirsten, and Molly—were originally released with pale white muslin bodies that sharply contrasted with the head and limbs. To hide this, all their clothing was made high to the throat and with sleeves and skirts (and underpants) long enough to cover this up. This changed in 1991 when Felicity was released; the lower necklines of the Revolutionary/Colonial Period meant that the company could not keep the body covered, so they changed the main cloth body to better match the skin tone of the limbs which is how it's since stayed.

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* The first three dolls of the [[Toys/AmericanGirlsCollection American Girl line]]--Samantha, Kirsten, and Molly—were originally released with pale white muslin bodies that sharply contrasted with the head and limbs. To hide this, all their clothing was made high to the throat and with sleeves and skirts (and underpants) long enough to cover this up. This changed in 1991 when Felicity was released; the lower necklines of the Revolutionary/Colonial Period meant that the company could not keep the body covered, so they changed the main cloth body to better match the skin tone of the limbs which is how it's since stayed.stayed.
* Whoo-boy, Gunpla (Franchise/{{Gundam}} plastic models) have evolved tremendously since the early days. The earliest 1/144 scale Gunpla, released in 1980 were of a single color (you had to paint these suckers) with some articulation with the 1/100 and 1/60 scale not faring as well. Also, the intended way of putting in beam sabers back into their sockets? Breaking the blade. 1/100s would be mostly colored by the time ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' launched and it wouldn't be until the launch of the Gunpla for ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam0080WarInThePocket'' that we would have stickers for certain areas. During the early days of the High Grade Gunpla the beam sabers would still be one single-colored piece of plastic resembling the blade and hilt (or even worse, blade, hilt and hand holding it) with certain rare models, like the early Rick Dias and RX-78 Gundam having the modern day two piece blade-and-hilt. Don't expect the two-piece to be standard issue until the release of the G-Armor + Gundam set.
11th Apr '18 6:30:01 PM Vrahno
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** A lot of ''Bionicle'''s early installment weirdness comes from the drastic changes Lego issued around the end of 2001. Most of the media before that was heavily disjointed with many under-explored and outright abandoned concepts, and a greater focus on mythology lifted from real life Polynesian cultures. The late-01 shifts centered around a variety of factors: the infamous Maori incident wherein activists threatened Lego for using their culture to promote toys (resulting in the abandonment of the tribal themes), the storyline being extended with Mata Nui's reveal pushed back due to the toys' success (resulting in a more extensive lore and a backstory rethought from scratch), ''Bionicle'' becoming its own franchise instead of being a Technic sub-series (leading to more unique toy design), the development of the 2003 DirectToVideo movie (more outsider influence), the cancellation of the 2001 PC game (bringing the ''Mata Nui Online Game'' to the forefront), and even 9/11 (Lego tightening their violence policies). The post-2002 franchise was very different from what Lego had originally planned.
26th Feb '18 7:08:46 PM Vrahno
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** Much like its predecessors ''Toys/{{Slizers}}'' and ''Toys/RoboRiders'', ''Bionicle'''s story would have featured [[ElementalEmbodiment elemental creatures]] such as {{rock monster}}s, [[BlobMonster mud monsters]] or [[OurDragonsAreDifferent fire dragons]] as foes. These appear in concept art and the canceled ''Legend of Mata Nui'' PC game as level bosses, but are suspiciously absent from every canonical story source. A smaller variant of the Vatuka Nui mud monster, simply named a Vatuka, did appear thanks to the ''Quest for the Toa'' UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance title, and a handful other elemental beings were referred to at points, but never were they anything more than throwaway curiosities. A few possible exceptions are the [[SentientPhlebotinum Energized Protodermis Entity]] and various plant monsters, who were introduced later, bearing no relation to the original concept of the elementals. It is easy to see why they were dropped: [[ToylessToylineCharacter they had no toys]] [[MerchandiseDriven to sell]] and they came off as cheesy once the franchise settled on its more serious tone.
20th Jan '18 11:31:37 AM Vrahno
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** The 2001-2003 arcs also placed a bigger emphasis on the franchise being a Lego toy-line. Upon arriving on the island, the Toa reassemble their scattered bodyparts, [[FusionDance the ability to form Kaita or Nui fusions is important]], and there's multiple plots related to [[GottaCatchThemAll collecting items of interest]], which was partially inspired by the canceled ''Legend of Mata Nui'' video game. Later years would only give occasional, off-hand reminders of these concepts; Kaita and Nui combinations were dropped after 2004, and the collecting angle diminished as Lego phased out collectibles in favor of various projectile gimmicks. This also meant that while most early masks were made available in a variety of colors, later on it was rare for a mask to be released in more than one color.
19th Dec '17 3:11:59 PM Vrahno
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** Some pieces of very early promotional material more closely aligned with the Toa's preliminary depictions as gods of nature rather than "just" super powerful legendary warriors. There were references to the Toa commanding nature itself, with their arguments causing storms or earthquakes, and even the canonically ultra-friendly Pohatu was described as fierce and temperamental. They were also said to be of different ages instead of having been created at the same time. Other abandoned concepts and character traits also came up, like the significance of tribal and victory dances, or Turaga Matau's never-seen ability to fly. However, given that much of the early lore was relayed to the audience through the legends and beliefs of the Matoran villagers, these strange descriptions do make sense when put into that context.
** In the 2001 plot, the substance protodermis was seen as a rare, life-giving element. In 2002, the Toa's transformation into Toa Nuva was attributed to the mystical powers of protodermis. Beginning from 2004, ''all'' materials in the Matoran Universe were explained away as being protodermis, including rocks, metals, water, flesh and wood, essentially making it the most abundant substance in existence. The type with transformative properties was [[{{Retronym}} retroactively renamed to]] "energized protodermis".
9th Sep '17 2:54:45 PM nombretomado
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* The first three dolls of the [[Franchise/AmericanGirlsCollection American Girl line]]--Samantha, Kirsten, and Molly—were originally released with pale white muslin bodies that sharply contrasted with the head and limbs. To hide this, all their clothing was made high to the throat and with sleeves and skirts (and underpants) long enough to cover this up. This changed in 1991 when Felicity was released; the lower necklines of the Revolutionary/Colonial Period meant that the company could not keep the body covered, so they changed the main cloth body to better match the skin tone of the limbs which is how it's since stayed.

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* The first three dolls of the [[Franchise/AmericanGirlsCollection [[Toys/AmericanGirlsCollection American Girl line]]--Samantha, Kirsten, and Molly—were originally released with pale white muslin bodies that sharply contrasted with the head and limbs. To hide this, all their clothing was made high to the throat and with sleeves and skirts (and underpants) long enough to cover this up. This changed in 1991 when Felicity was released; the lower necklines of the Revolutionary/Colonial Period meant that the company could not keep the body covered, so they changed the main cloth body to better match the skin tone of the limbs which is how it's since stayed.
6th Sep '17 1:06:26 PM novanious
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** Epitomized with their ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' line of pose-able figures - the original figures in the line, such as Piccolo, Gohan, and Vegeta had cheaper, looser joints, a flatter paintjob that looked more like clay than actual plastic figures, much more subdued and simplistic expressions, where the grimacing and shouting faces were practically the exact same (if there even were shouting expression faces), and completely different torso to legs articulation, simplistic ball joints with no rotating parts, making any poses besides standing and sitting cross-legged almost impossible. As well, a lot of characters made re-use the original Goku Gi mold or were repaints entirely. Comparatively, the new figures, such as Yamcha, Tien, and the remade Vegeta, are much more expressive, have much better joints, paint jobs that better resemble their manga/anime incarnations and are much more solid and vibrant, and a completely new torso-to-leg joint system that allows much more movement for posing. The older molds are still used, but the figures that use them (such as Ultimate Gohan) usually have a breadth of accessories and are cheaper than the newer mold figures to make up for it, or (in the case of Kaioken Goku) exclusive to events.
22nd May '17 4:07:51 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* The mini-comics included with the first few waves of ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' action figures painted a very different mythos than that which would be established later by the DC comic books and the animated series. He-Man didn't have a secret identity and was a Literature/{{Tarzan}}-esque jungle man rather than the prince of Eternia, and he predominately used his axe in combat - the Power Sword was merely a {{Macguffin}} that could be used to unlock the door of Castle Greyskull. He-Man and Skeletor each owned one half of it, and they were fighting over the complete sword, an idea that was quickly abandoned in later media. It's also worth noting that He-Man (even in the comics, after some of the other more well-known elements were established) spoke in YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe from time to time, of all things. The Castle itself was presented as more of a prize that all the characters wanted to claim for themselves rather than a base of operation for He-Man. Even Skeletor was given a very different origin story - the first mini-comic explicitly states that he comes from a race of skull-faced beings from another dimension and that he wants to conquer Eternia for his people, while every portrayal of the character after [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse2002 the 2002 reboot]] has used the story that he was originally an ordinary Eternian sorcerer whose face was burned off in an attack with an acid vial GoneHorriblyWrong.

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* The mini-comics included with the first few waves of ''Franchise/MastersOfTheUniverse'' action figures painted a very different mythos than that which would be established later by the DC comic books and the animated series. He-Man didn't have a secret identity and was a Literature/{{Tarzan}}-esque jungle man rather than the prince of Eternia, and he predominately used his axe in combat - the Power Sword was merely a {{Macguffin}} MacGuffin that could be used to unlock the door of Castle Greyskull. He-Man and Skeletor each owned one half of it, and they were fighting over the complete sword, an idea that was quickly abandoned in later media. It's also worth noting that He-Man (even in the comics, after some of the other more well-known elements were established) spoke in YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe from time to time, of all things. The Castle itself was presented as more of a prize that all the characters wanted to claim for themselves rather than a base of operation for He-Man. Even Skeletor was given a very different origin story - the first mini-comic explicitly states that he comes from a race of skull-faced beings from another dimension and that he wants to conquer Eternia for his people, while every portrayal of the character after [[WesternAnimation/HeManAndTheMastersOfTheUniverse2002 the 2002 reboot]] has used the story that he was originally an ordinary Eternian sorcerer whose face was burned off in an attack with an acid vial GoneHorriblyWrong.
13th Aug '16 9:28:42 PM Vrahno
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** With regards to the sets: originally sold under the LEGO Technic title as opposed to having its own, the sets were built around certain action-based gimmicks and put a lot of emphasis on the importance of collectible items, like masks. Their gear structures were at times complicated to build, and the figures suffered from limited articulation and very blocky aesthetics. A stark contrast to the modern, highly articulated, streamlined and skinny (and at times organic-looking) action figures that come with projectile weapons instead of collectibles, and are easier to build.

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** With regards to the sets: originally sold under the LEGO Technic title as opposed to having its own, the sets were built around certain action-based gimmicks and put a lot of emphasis on the importance of collectible items, like masks. Their gear structures were at times complicated to build, and the figures suffered from limited articulation and very blocky aesthetics. A stark contrast to the modern, later, highly articulated, streamlined and skinny (and at times organic-looking) action figures that come came with projectile weapons instead of collectibles, and are were easier to build.build. Many early larger figures initially came in pairs, encouraging kids to duel with them, [[SpiritualSuccessor which can be seen as an extension]] of the older ''Competition'' or ''[=CyberSlam=]'' LEGO theme. Smaller toys were designed to be able to knock off each other's masks, which was also gradually done away with. The [[Toys/{{Bionicle2015}} 2015 reboot]] utilized both projectiles and mask-popping gimmicks in its first year, mostly abandoning them in the second.
9th Jul '16 2:23:28 PM nombretomado
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