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* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
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* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), broke), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
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* The Kate Kane version of Comicbook/{{Batwoman}} was initially portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established as having been open about being gay since her teen years (with her refusal to hide her sexuality being a major plot point in her backstory).
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* The Kate Kane version of Comicbook/{{Batwoman}} was initially portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), been), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established as having been open about being gay since her teen years (with her refusal to hide her sexuality being a major plot point in her backstory).backstory).
* ''ComicBook/WorldsFinest1941'':
** The magazine wasn't born as a ''Superman''/''Batman'' crossover series, but as an AnthologyComic, wherein Superman, Batman and other heroes like Zatara, Sandman, the Star-Spangled Kid, Green Arrow, Lando or Red, White and Blue lived solo adventures. Initially, Batman did not even have top-billing, his strip usually having the last slot. Superman and Batman's first joint adventure appeared thirteen years later in issue #71 (July, 1954).
** Judging by the covers, the ''World's Finest'' were Superman, Batman ''and'' Robin, who was featured in all covers until issue #85 (December, 1956).
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* ''ComicBook/WorldsFinest1941'':
** The magazine wasn't born as a ''Superman''/''Batman'' crossover series, but as an AnthologyComic, wherein Superman, Batman and other heroes like Zatara, Sandman, the Star-Spangled Kid, Green Arrow, Lando or Red, White and Blue lived solo adventures. Initially, Batman did not even have top-billing, his strip usually having the last slot. Superman and Batman's first joint adventure appeared thirteen years later in issue #71 (July, 1954).
** Judging by the covers, the ''World's Finest'' were Superman, Batman ''and'' Robin, who was featured in all covers until issue #85 (December, 1956).
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** ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} did not wear a costume at all, instead using disguises and trickery in her heists, and while she did occasionally wear a mask, it was an actual cat-faced mask as opposed to her better known cowl with cat ears. She didn't even call herself Catwoman originally, instead going by the shorter alias "The Cat"; "Cat-Woman" was just a nickname. She was also more overtly villainous, in contrast to the AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain characterization most modern fans are familiar with.
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** ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} did not wear a costume at all, instead using disguises and trickery in her heists, and while she did occasionally wear a mask, it was an actual cat-faced mask as opposed to her better known cowl with cat ears.heists. She didn't even call herself Catwoman originally, instead going by the shorter alias "The Cat"; "Cat-Woman" was just a nickname. She was also more overtly villainous, in contrast to the AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain characterization most modern fans are familiar with.
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* The modern version of ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} debuted in the series ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', with a different look than what she'd sport in her ongoing series and ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' appearances. Kate was first depicted as having long auburn-red hair, was more into dresses for her fashion sense, and had brown eyes. When her series came around, her skin was dramatically lightened to be a "vampire porcelain white" (to better reflect a redhead's complexion), she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established as having been open about being gay since her teen years (with her refusal to hide her sexuality being a major plot point in her backstory).
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* The modern Kate Kane version of ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} debuted in the series ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', with a different look than what she'd sport in her ongoing series and ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' appearances. Kate Comicbook/{{Batwoman}} was first depicted as having long auburn-red hair, was more into dresses for her fashion sense, and had brown eyes. When her series came around, her skin was dramatically lightened to be a "vampire porcelain white" (to better reflect a redhead's complexion), she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also initially portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established as having been open about being gay since her teen years (with her refusal to hide her sexuality being a major plot point in her backstory).
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** ComicBook/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor (his name was instead more of a reference to his status as a WildCard). His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as being. He would even sometimes team up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals. Post-''ComicBook/DarkseidWar'', the earlier depictions of the Joker were retconned into [[DecompositeCharacter separate characters]], and Batman wasn't aware there are three different Jokers (i.e., the original, Silver Age, and ''[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Killing Joke]]'' Jokers) until he asked the Mobius Chair what the Joker's true name is.
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** ComicBook/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor (his name was instead more of a reference to his status as a WildCard). His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as being. He would even sometimes team up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals. Post-''ComicBook/DarkseidWar'', the earlier depictions of the Joker were retconned into [[DecompositeCharacter separate characters]], and Batman wasn't aware there are three different Jokers (i.e., the original, Silver Age, and ''[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Killing Joke]]'' Jokers) until he asked the Mobius Chair what the Joker's true name is.
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* The modern version of ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} debuted in the series ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', with a different look than what she'd sport in her ongoing series and ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' appearances. Kate was first depicted as having long auburn-red hair, was more into dresses for her fashion sense, and had brown eyes. When her series came around, her skin was dramatically lightened to be a "vampire porcelain white" (to better reflect a redhead's complexion), she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a closeted LipstickLesbian, in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is open about her sexuality.
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* The modern version of ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} debuted in the series ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', with a different look than what she'd sport in her ongoing series and ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' appearances. Kate was first depicted as having long auburn-red hair, was more into dresses for her fashion sense, and had brown eyes. When her series came around, her skin was dramatically lightened to be a "vampire porcelain white" (to better reflect a redhead's complexion), she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a closeted LipstickLesbian, LipstickLesbian and implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established as having been open about being gay since her sexuality.teen years (with her refusal to hide her sexuality being a major plot point in her backstory).
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* ComicBook/GreenArrow originally had a different costume, brown hair, and no goatee. He also had a more boring personality, lacking the inclination towards social justice that would define the character starting in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks. Additionally, like many Golden Age heroes, he had no qualms about killing bad guys.
she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and was implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established to have been open about her sexuality since her teen years.
she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and was implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established to have been open about her sexuality since her teen years.
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* ComicBook/GreenArrow originally had The modern version of ComicBook/{{Batwoman}} debuted in the series ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'', with a different costume, look than what she'd sport in her ongoing series and ''ComicBook/DetectiveComics'' appearances. Kate was first depicted as having long auburn-red hair, was more into dresses for her fashion sense, and had brown hair, and no goatee. He also had eyes. When her series came around, her skin was dramatically lightened to be a more boring personality, lacking the inclination towards social justice that would define the character starting in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks. Additionally, like many Golden Age heroes, he had no qualms about killing bad guys.
"vampire porcelain white" (to better reflect a redhead's complexion), she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and was implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), closeted LipstickLesbian, in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established to have been open about her sexuality since her teen years.sexuality.
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* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}''.
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* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}''.''ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}''.
* ComicBook/GreenArrow originally had a different costume, brown hair, and no goatee. He also had a more boring personality, lacking the inclination towards social justice that would define the character starting in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks. Additionally, like many Golden Age heroes, he had no qualms about killing bad guys.
she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and was implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established to have been open about her sexuality since her teen years.
* ComicBook/GreenArrow originally had a different costume, brown hair, and no goatee. He also had a more boring personality, lacking the inclination towards social justice that would define the character starting in UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks. Additionally, like many Golden Age heroes, he had no qualms about killing bad guys.
she was depicted as dressing more punkish, her hair became short and a highly saturated shade of red, and her [[SignificantGreenEyedRedhead eyes were changed to green]]. She was also portrayed as a LipstickLesbian and was implied to still be in the closet (or at least had been until recently), in contrast to her depiction in ''Detective'', where she sports a more masculine dress style and is established to have been open about her sexuality since her teen years.
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* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid, and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
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* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid, HollywoodAcid and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
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* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/Knightfall''.
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* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/Knightfall''.''ComicBook/{{Knightfall}}''.
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* While Damian would go on to be a well established animal lover while he was first infiltrating the batcave in ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' he complained about and hit several bats, saying he didn't know what his father saw in them. He was pretty stressed at the time and had just been injured when he didn't move his hand fast enough to avoid it being slammed in one of the caves emergency doors.
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* While Damian would go on to be a well established animal lover while he was first infiltrating the batcave in ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' he complained about and hit several bats, saying he didn't know what his father saw in them. He was pretty stressed at the time and had just been injured when he didn't move his hand fast enough to avoid it being slammed in one of the caves emergency doors.doors.
* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/Knightfall''.
* Comics-wise, the title ''Legends of the Dark Knight'' would be tales set during Batman's early years. However, only five issues would deviate from this ideal, all of them being multi-part stories and four of them being used for ''ComicBook/Knightfall''.
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* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid, and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
* In ''Detective Comics'' #32, Batman fashions a pair of silver bullets, draws a pistol, and shoots two dormant vampires, and #35 shows a title page image of him wielding a gun. While [[BrieferThanTheyThink these are the only instances of him using a gun in the era,]] it's still rather bizarre in light of how the fact that Batman DoesntLikeGuns is now a defining part of who he is.
* Readers weren't told about the death of Bruce Wayne's parents for the first six months of the character's adventures. These early adventures took place in New York City rather than the fictional Gotham. Also, he had purple gloves. And the Batmobile was originally a bright red sedan rather than a black car with a bat motif. In general, he was a lot less like Batman and a lot more like Radio/TheShadow (a few comics scholars have even suggested outright plagiarism), and didn't really become recognizably Batman in personality and operating methods until he got his own solo series.
* Bruce Wayne originally had no servants in his home, unable to trust anyone with his secret identity (except Robin, once he showed up). When Alfred was introduced (four years after Batman's debut in ''Detective'') he was a bumbling comic relief character who looked and acted almost completely different from the man we know.
* ''A lot'' of Batman's RoguesGallery were completely different in their initial appearances:
** ComicBook/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor (his name was instead more of a reference to his status as a WildCard). His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as being. He would even sometimes team up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals. Post-''ComicBook/DarkseidWar'', the earlier depictions of the Joker were retconned into [[DecompositeCharacter separate characters]], and Batman wasn't aware there are three different Jokers (i.e., the original, Silver Age, and ''[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Killing Joke]]'' Jokers) until he asked the Mobius Chair what the Joker's true name is.
** ComicBook/TheScarecrow was originally a standard hoodlum-for-hire (albeit one who used to be a college professor) who terrorized his victims the old-fashioned way: with guns and death threats (in [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks this era]], fear gas was actually the gimmick of the now-comparatively obscure Hugo Strange). He also managed to hold his own against Batman and Robin physically, at least for a little while.
** Killer Moth was actually a KnightOfCerebus rather than an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, having been intended as an EvilCounterpart and archenemy to Batman. He managed to keep up his threatening nature until an issue in the latter half of the Silver Age, where [[TheWorfEffect Batgirl beat him on her first night out as a vigilante]]. This caused his reputation to take a massive downhill turn, both in and out of universe.
** Clayface used to be a simple thief/murderer without superpowers who wore an old costume. He only got the upgrade to superpowers after it became clear that Batman and company completely outclassed him.
** ComicBook/MrFreeze, one of the most famous examples of the TragicVillain, was originally just your typical bank-robbing supercrook who cracked jokes and used cool Sci-Fi weaponry to pull off heists. Also his condition didn't change his physical appearance, he called himself "Mr. Zero", [[HarmlessFreezing his freeze-gun couldn't kill people]] and, perhaps most shockingly, his first appearance actually ended with his body returning to normal after being exposed to steam. It took another nine years for the character to show up again, and even that was only because of his appearances on the popular live-action ''Series/{{Batman|1966}}'' show. After that, he mostly bounced around the various Batman books as a minor foe, before he was straight up ''killed off'' during the 1991 ''Robin'' mini-series. It wasn't until ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' revamped the character that he was brought back in the comics, now reimagined as the pitiable and tragic character he's famous as.
** ComicBook/PoisonIvy's debut contained none of the GaiasVengeance or StrawFeminist themes the character would later become famous for; her association with plants only went gimmick-deep, and even then it was largely metaphorical (she got into crime because she was a huge AttentionWhore, who sought to stick in the public's mind like a case of poison ivy). She was also far more obsessed with material possessions like jewelry and clothing, with one ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'' issue having her outright claim to ''hate'' the jungle after getting a tear in her tights.
** ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} did not wear a costume at all, instead using disguises and trickery in her heists, and while she did occasionally wear a mask, it was an actual cat-faced mask as opposed to her better known cowl with cat ears. She didn't even call herself Catwoman originally, instead going by the shorter alias "The Cat"; "Cat-Woman" was just a nickname. She was also more overtly villainous, in contrast to the AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain characterization most modern fans are familiar with.
** As the most "epic" villain in Batman's rogues gallery, ComicBook/RasAlGhul is all but ''guaranteed'' to get away at the end of a story, whether blatantly or through a NeverFoundTheBody [[DeathIsCheap Comic Book Death]] (which his loyal followers and/or daughter will no doubt undo with the Lazarus Pits). Which makes it kind of hilarious to reread his debut story, which ended with Batman getting a clean win over him and dragging him off to jail like any other crook. The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' two-part adaptation of [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE60TheDemonsQuestPart1 this]] [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE61TheDemonsQuestPart2 story]], faithful in most other respects, conveniently left this part out.
* While Damian would go on to be a well established animal lover while he was first infiltrating the batcave in ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' he complained about and hit several bats, saying he didn't know what his father saw in them. He was pretty stressed at the time and had just been injured when he didn't move his hand fast enough to avoid it being slammed in one of the caves emergency doors.
* Batman was perfectly willing to kill in his earliest appearances, as seen in his very first story, where he punches the villain into a vat of HollywoodAcid, and shows no remorse for it. To be fair, it's not like Batman ''deliberately aimed'' to send him into the acid (a safety rail broke- [[NoOSHACompliance this is why you build to OSHA standards, kids]]), but he sure didn't have any problem with what happened, declaring it a 'fitting end for his kind.'
* In ''Detective Comics'' #32, Batman fashions a pair of silver bullets, draws a pistol, and shoots two dormant vampires, and #35 shows a title page image of him wielding a gun. While [[BrieferThanTheyThink these are the only instances of him using a gun in the era,]] it's still rather bizarre in light of how the fact that Batman DoesntLikeGuns is now a defining part of who he is.
* Readers weren't told about the death of Bruce Wayne's parents for the first six months of the character's adventures. These early adventures took place in New York City rather than the fictional Gotham. Also, he had purple gloves. And the Batmobile was originally a bright red sedan rather than a black car with a bat motif. In general, he was a lot less like Batman and a lot more like Radio/TheShadow (a few comics scholars have even suggested outright plagiarism), and didn't really become recognizably Batman in personality and operating methods until he got his own solo series.
* Bruce Wayne originally had no servants in his home, unable to trust anyone with his secret identity (except Robin, once he showed up). When Alfred was introduced (four years after Batman's debut in ''Detective'') he was a bumbling comic relief character who looked and acted almost completely different from the man we know.
* ''A lot'' of Batman's RoguesGallery were completely different in their initial appearances:
** ComicBook/TheJoker originally had NoSenseOfHumor (his name was instead more of a reference to his status as a WildCard). His Silver Age self was closer to his typical depiction but was simply an [[AffablyEvil affable]], [[LaughablyEvil legitimately funny]] thief who liked to make people laugh and viewed Batman as a WorthyOpponent; a far cry from the creepy, murderous psychopath he would become famous as being. He would even sometimes team up with the heroes to take down worse villains, such as a memorable issue where circumstances forced him and Superman to work together in order to save Perry White. His clown-like complexion also used to be actual makeup, which he removed to pose as a cop (a scene that was referenced in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''). Later issues would reveal that his complexion was a deformity from falling into a vat of chemicals. Post-''ComicBook/DarkseidWar'', the earlier depictions of the Joker were retconned into [[DecompositeCharacter separate characters]], and Batman wasn't aware there are three different Jokers (i.e., the original, Silver Age, and ''[[ComicBook/TheKillingJoke Killing Joke]]'' Jokers) until he asked the Mobius Chair what the Joker's true name is.
** ComicBook/TheScarecrow was originally a standard hoodlum-for-hire (albeit one who used to be a college professor) who terrorized his victims the old-fashioned way: with guns and death threats (in [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks this era]], fear gas was actually the gimmick of the now-comparatively obscure Hugo Strange). He also managed to hold his own against Batman and Robin physically, at least for a little while.
** Killer Moth was actually a KnightOfCerebus rather than an IneffectualSympatheticVillain, having been intended as an EvilCounterpart and archenemy to Batman. He managed to keep up his threatening nature until an issue in the latter half of the Silver Age, where [[TheWorfEffect Batgirl beat him on her first night out as a vigilante]]. This caused his reputation to take a massive downhill turn, both in and out of universe.
** Clayface used to be a simple thief/murderer without superpowers who wore an old costume. He only got the upgrade to superpowers after it became clear that Batman and company completely outclassed him.
** ComicBook/MrFreeze, one of the most famous examples of the TragicVillain, was originally just your typical bank-robbing supercrook who cracked jokes and used cool Sci-Fi weaponry to pull off heists. Also his condition didn't change his physical appearance, he called himself "Mr. Zero", [[HarmlessFreezing his freeze-gun couldn't kill people]] and, perhaps most shockingly, his first appearance actually ended with his body returning to normal after being exposed to steam. It took another nine years for the character to show up again, and even that was only because of his appearances on the popular live-action ''Series/{{Batman|1966}}'' show. After that, he mostly bounced around the various Batman books as a minor foe, before he was straight up ''killed off'' during the 1991 ''Robin'' mini-series. It wasn't until ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' revamped the character that he was brought back in the comics, now reimagined as the pitiable and tragic character he's famous as.
** ComicBook/PoisonIvy's debut contained none of the GaiasVengeance or StrawFeminist themes the character would later become famous for; her association with plants only went gimmick-deep, and even then it was largely metaphorical (she got into crime because she was a huge AttentionWhore, who sought to stick in the public's mind like a case of poison ivy). She was also far more obsessed with material possessions like jewelry and clothing, with one ''ComicBook/SuicideSquad'' issue having her outright claim to ''hate'' the jungle after getting a tear in her tights.
** ComicBook/{{Catwoman}} did not wear a costume at all, instead using disguises and trickery in her heists, and while she did occasionally wear a mask, it was an actual cat-faced mask as opposed to her better known cowl with cat ears. She didn't even call herself Catwoman originally, instead going by the shorter alias "The Cat"; "Cat-Woman" was just a nickname. She was also more overtly villainous, in contrast to the AntiHero[=/=]AntiVillain characterization most modern fans are familiar with.
** As the most "epic" villain in Batman's rogues gallery, ComicBook/RasAlGhul is all but ''guaranteed'' to get away at the end of a story, whether blatantly or through a NeverFoundTheBody [[DeathIsCheap Comic Book Death]] (which his loyal followers and/or daughter will no doubt undo with the Lazarus Pits). Which makes it kind of hilarious to reread his debut story, which ended with Batman getting a clean win over him and dragging him off to jail like any other crook. The ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' two-part adaptation of [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE60TheDemonsQuestPart1 this]] [[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE61TheDemonsQuestPart2 story]], faithful in most other respects, conveniently left this part out.
* While Damian would go on to be a well established animal lover while he was first infiltrating the batcave in ''ComicBook/Robin1993'' he complained about and hit several bats, saying he didn't know what his father saw in them. He was pretty stressed at the time and had just been injured when he didn't move his hand fast enough to avoid it being slammed in one of the caves emergency doors.
