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** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .
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** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .back.
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** A more deliberate bridge was dropped on several characters during the Word of Blake Jihad, in which a captured mercenary leader, Fritz Donner, turned out to be a BrainwashedAndCrazy [[WhyAmITicking unwilling suicide bomber]]. He infiltrates a meeting of several parties operating against Word of Blake and blows up, killing major Expanded Universe characters with their own sourcebooks and novels such as Diana Pryde (''I Am Jade Falcon, Falcon Guard, Falcon Rising, Operation Audacity''), Rhonda Snord (''Snord's Irregulars, Call of Duty''), Maeve Wolf (''Wolf Pack''), Caradoc Trevena (''Malicious Intent''), Shin Yomada (''Blood of Kerensky'' trilogy), Marco Hall, and Bjorn Jorgensson. This doesn't even happen in a novel--it's related in a news article from one of the Jihad-era sourcebooks.
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** A more deliberate bridge was dropped on several characters during the Word of Blake Jihad, in which a captured mercenary leader, Fritz Donner, turned out to be a BrainwashedAndCrazy [[WhyAmITicking unwilling suicide bomber]]. He infiltrates a meeting of several parties operating against Word of Blake and blows up, killing major Expanded Universe characters with their own sourcebooks and novels such as Diana Pryde (''I Am Jade Falcon, Falcon Guard, Falcon Rising, Operation Audacity''), Rhonda Snord (''Snord's Irregulars, Call of Duty''), Maeve Wolf (''Wolf Pack''), Caradoc Trevena (''Malicious Intent''), Shin Yomada (''Blood of Kerensky'' trilogy), Marco Hall, and Bjorn Jorgensson. This doesn't even happen in a novel--it's related in a news article from one of the Jihad-era sourcebooks.sourcebooks.
* ''[[TabletopGame/KingdomDeath Kingdom Death: Monster]]'': Some ways in which (groups of) Survivors can die. If this happens too early in a new campaign, it can turn new players away from the game, and cause experienced players to accept an early loss and start a new campaign. It's one thing to see your Survivors die after a furious battle with an enraged Monster, or after taking one too many risks during a push-your-luck event. It's a whole different story if they drop like flies because you drew two bad events and keep rolling bad results at the worst times.
* ''[[TabletopGame/KingdomDeath Kingdom Death: Monster]]'': Some ways in which (groups of) Survivors can die. If this happens too early in a new campaign, it can turn new players away from the game, and cause experienced players to accept an early loss and start a new campaign. It's one thing to see your Survivors die after a furious battle with an enraged Monster, or after taking one too many risks during a push-your-luck event. It's a whole different story if they drop like flies because you drew two bad events and keep rolling bad results at the worst times.
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* ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' ''inadvertently'' dropped a bridge on a major group. The Black Thorns were a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors mercenary group]] originating from [=ComStar=] that specialized in anti-Clan tactics. The Black Thorns had two dedicated novels were often mentioned in sourcebooks. Come a TimeSkip and the outbreak of the Word of Blake Jihad, the Blakeists dropped a whole bunch of [[OrbitalBombardment nukes, kinetic kill projectiles, and biological weapons]] of dozens of planets. When an author began the preliminary fact-checking to write a new Black Thorns novel, he realized that planet that the Thorns were garrisoned on was one that got cleansed of life. WordOfGod confirmed that the Thorns were annihilated with no survivors.
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* ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech''
** The devs ''inadvertently'' dropped a bridge on a major group. The Black Thorns were a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors mercenary group]] originating from [=ComStar=] that specialized in anti-Clan tactics. The Black Thorns had two dedicated novels were often mentioned in sourcebooks. Come a TimeSkip and the outbreak of the Word of Blake Jihad, the Blakeists dropped a whole bunch of [[OrbitalBombardment nukes, kinetic kill projectiles, and biological weapons]] of dozens of planets. When an author began the preliminary fact-checking to write a new Black Thorns novel, he realized that planet that the Thorns were garrisoned on was one that got cleansed of life. WordOfGod confirmed that the Thorns were annihilated with nosurvivors.survivors.
** A more deliberate bridge was dropped on several characters during the Word of Blake Jihad, in which a captured mercenary leader, Fritz Donner, turned out to be a BrainwashedAndCrazy [[WhyAmITicking unwilling suicide bomber]]. He infiltrates a meeting of several parties operating against Word of Blake and blows up, killing major Expanded Universe characters with their own sourcebooks and novels such as Diana Pryde (''I Am Jade Falcon, Falcon Guard, Falcon Rising, Operation Audacity''), Rhonda Snord (''Snord's Irregulars, Call of Duty''), Maeve Wolf (''Wolf Pack''), Caradoc Trevena (''Malicious Intent''), Shin Yomada (''Blood of Kerensky'' trilogy), Marco Hall, and Bjorn Jorgensson. This doesn't even happen in a novel--it's related in a news article from one of the Jihad-era sourcebooks.
** The devs ''inadvertently'' dropped a bridge on a major group. The Black Thorns were a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors mercenary group]] originating from [=ComStar=] that specialized in anti-Clan tactics. The Black Thorns had two dedicated novels were often mentioned in sourcebooks. Come a TimeSkip and the outbreak of the Word of Blake Jihad, the Blakeists dropped a whole bunch of [[OrbitalBombardment nukes, kinetic kill projectiles, and biological weapons]] of dozens of planets. When an author began the preliminary fact-checking to write a new Black Thorns novel, he realized that planet that the Thorns were garrisoned on was one that got cleansed of life. WordOfGod confirmed that the Thorns were annihilated with no
** A more deliberate bridge was dropped on several characters during the Word of Blake Jihad, in which a captured mercenary leader, Fritz Donner, turned out to be a BrainwashedAndCrazy [[WhyAmITicking unwilling suicide bomber]]. He infiltrates a meeting of several parties operating against Word of Blake and blows up, killing major Expanded Universe characters with their own sourcebooks and novels such as Diana Pryde (''I Am Jade Falcon, Falcon Guard, Falcon Rising, Operation Audacity''), Rhonda Snord (''Snord's Irregulars, Call of Duty''), Maeve Wolf (''Wolf Pack''), Caradoc Trevena (''Malicious Intent''), Shin Yomada (''Blood of Kerensky'' trilogy), Marco Hall, and Bjorn Jorgensson. This doesn't even happen in a novel--it's related in a news article from one of the Jihad-era sourcebooks.
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* MagicTheGathering's metaplot is infamous for this. In the "Tempest" block, the character Crovax was set up as a tragic anti-hero who meets a sad end...but rather than kill him off there they have him unexpectedly survive and turn into an alien cyborg Hitler. The supporting character Ertai is a smug but amusing wizard with an AwesomeEgo who ends up Crovax's prisoner as part of a BreakTheHaughty arch for him. How will he get out of this scrape? He won't: He gets turned into a monster, becomes instantly evil, tries to kill all his former friends and then dies without redemption.
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* MagicTheGathering's TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering's metaplot is infamous for this. In the "Tempest" block, the character Crovax was set up as a tragic anti-hero who meets a sad end...but rather than kill him off there they have him unexpectedly survive and turn into an alien cyborg Hitler. The supporting character Ertai is a smug but amusing wizard with an AwesomeEgo who ends up Crovax's prisoner as part of a BreakTheHaughty arch for him. How will he get out of this scrape? He won't: He gets turned into a monster, becomes instantly evil, tries to kill all his former friends and then dies without redemption.
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* Every time there's an Edition change in ''ForgottenRealms'', they take the pruning shears to the various established characters and the deities. Some get awesome deaths. Azuth the god of mages, an ascended mortal that got his position by [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt kicking the ass]] of the previous god of mages, pretty much gets eaten by Asmodeus to fuel his ascension to godhood.
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* Every time there's an Edition change in ''ForgottenRealms'', ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'', they take the pruning shears to the various established characters and the deities. Some get awesome deaths. Azuth the god of mages, an ascended mortal that got his position by [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt kicking the ass]] of the previous god of mages, pretty much gets eaten by Asmodeus to fuel his ascension to godhood.
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"unexpectedly" anti-climactic or mundane, following the first paragraph. This is not the case here. Beyond this, this is a general example.
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* A frequent trope of the genre, owing to the randomness of dice or card draws moving the plot along. Far too many player characters have met their ends in a random fight created by the GM just to slow the game's pace down or to break up a long journey.
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* A frequent trope of the genre, owing to the randomness of dice or card draws moving the plot along. Far too many player characters have met their ends in a random fight created by the GM just to slow the game's pace down or to break up a long journey.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]
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** When they were first discontinued, the Squatsof from ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got were said to have been devoured by a hive-fleet dropped on them. [[HordeOfAlienLocusts Tyranid Hive Fleet]]. Some fans argue that the Squats are an OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
* ** In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]
** When they were first discontinued, the Squats
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* ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' ''inadvertently'' dropped a bridge on a major group. The Black Thorns were a [[PrivateMilitaryContractors mercenary group]] originating from [=ComStar=] that specialized in anti-Clan tactics. The Black Thorns had two dedicated novels were often mentioned in sourcebooks. Come a TimeSkip and the outbreak of the Word of Blake Jihad, the Blakeists dropped a whole bunch of [[OrbitalBombardment nukes, kinetic kill projectiles, and biological weapons]] of dozens of planets. When an author began the preliminary fact-checking to write a new Black Thorns novel, he realized that planet that the Thorns were garrisoned on was one that got cleansed of life. WordOfGod confirmed that the Thorns were annihilated with no survivors.
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** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic and AGodAmI CanonSue, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other CanonSue characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .
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** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic and AGodAmI CanonSue, magic, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other CanonSue characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .
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** Many feel that Games Workshop pulled this on the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe with the End Times event. Basically, [[spoiler:Chaos destroys the world and literally every major character except for Sigmar is killed off.]]
* Happens frequently in ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' and in its [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] courtesy of the WarIsHell AnyoneCanDie setting. The Black Thorns, a group of PrivateMilitaryContractors that got their own novel, got ''accidentally'' bridge-dropped; during the Word of Blake Jihad, the authors dropped a Word of Blake virus bomb and nuclear bombardment on a planet that the Thorns would have been stationed at at the time, which they didn't realize til ''after'' they published the sourcebook detailing the war zones. Rather than retcon the situation, the Thorns were declared extinct.
* Happens frequently in ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' and in its [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] courtesy of the WarIsHell AnyoneCanDie setting. The Black Thorns, a group of PrivateMilitaryContractors that got their own novel, got ''accidentally'' bridge-dropped; during the Word of Blake Jihad, the authors dropped a Word of Blake virus bomb and nuclear bombardment on a planet that the Thorns would have been stationed at at the time, which they didn't realize til ''after'' they published the sourcebook detailing the war zones. Rather than retcon the situation, the Thorns were declared extinct.
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** Many feel that Games Workshop pulled this on the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe with the End Times event. Basically, [[spoiler:Chaos destroys the world and literally every major character except for Sigmar is killed off.]]
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** Many feel that Games Workshop pulled this on the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe with the End Times event. Basically, [[spoiler:Chaos destroys the world and literally every major character except for Sigmar is killed off.]]]]
* Happens frequently in ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' and in its [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] courtesy of the WarIsHell AnyoneCanDie setting. The Black Thorns, a group of PrivateMilitaryContractors that got their own novel, got ''accidentally'' bridge-dropped; during the Word of Blake Jihad, the authors dropped a Word of Blake virus bomb and nuclear bombardment on a planet that the Thorns would have been stationed at at the time, which they didn't realize til ''after'' they published the sourcebook detailing the war zones. Rather than retcon the situation, the Thorns were declared extinct.
* Happens frequently in ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'' and in its [[Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse expanded universe]] courtesy of the WarIsHell AnyoneCanDie setting. The Black Thorns, a group of PrivateMilitaryContractors that got their own novel, got ''accidentally'' bridge-dropped; during the Word of Blake Jihad, the authors dropped a Word of Blake virus bomb and nuclear bombardment on a planet that the Thorns would have been stationed at at the time, which they didn't realize til ''after'' they published the sourcebook detailing the war zones. Rather than retcon the situation, the Thorns were declared extinct.
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]]]]]
** Many feel that Games Workshop pulled this on the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe with the End Times event. Basically, [[spoiler:Chaos destroys the world and literally every major character except for Sigmar is killed off.]]
** Many feel that Games Workshop pulled this on the entire Warhammer Fantasy universe with the End Times event. Basically, [[spoiler:Chaos destroys the world and literally every major character except for Sigmar is killed off.]]
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned.
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* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned. [[spoiler:[[KingInTheMountain He's not really dead, though...]]]]
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.codex.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'', the fabled Bretonnian king Gilles le Breton was killed randomly by a black-feather arrow in a battle with Orcs. His sudden and tragic death came out of nowhere and shocked the people of Bretonnia so much that in their society, archers and other users of ranged weapons are largely shunned.
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* MagicTheGathering's metaplot is infamous for this. In the "Tempest" block, the character Crovax was set up as a tragic anti-hero who meets a sad end...but rather than kill him off there they have him unexpectedly survive and turn into a CompleteMonster who is basically alien cyborg Hitler. The supporting character Ertai is a smug but amusing wizard with an AwesomeEgo who ends up Crovax's prisoner as part of a BreakTheHaughty arch for him. How will he get out of this scrape? He won't: He gets turned into a monster, becomes instantly evil, tries to kill all his former friends and then dies without redemption.
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* MagicTheGathering's metaplot is infamous for this. In the "Tempest" block, the character Crovax was set up as a tragic anti-hero who meets a sad end...but rather than kill him off there they have him unexpectedly survive and turn into a CompleteMonster who is basically an alien cyborg Hitler. The supporting character Ertai is a smug but amusing wizard with an AwesomeEgo who ends up Crovax's prisoner as part of a BreakTheHaughty arch for him. How will he get out of this scrape? He won't: He gets turned into a monster, becomes instantly evil, tries to kill all his former friends and then dies without redemption.
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* MagicTheGathering's metaplot is infamous for this. In the "Tempest" block, the character Crovax was set up as a tragic anti-hero who meets a sad end...but rather than kill him off there they have him unexpectedly survive and turn into a CompleteMonster who is basically alien cyborg Hitler. The supporting character Ertai is a smug but amusing wizard with an AwesomeEgo who ends up Crovax's prisoner as part of a BreakTheHaughty arch for him. How will he get out of this scrape? He won't: He gets turned into a monster, becomes instantly evil, tries to kill all his former friends and then dies without redemption.
** In the climax of that same long-running story, the ultimate good guy WizardClassic protagonist/messiah Urza, who was set up as the game's Big Good hero for six years, mind you, is on the brink of sealing his victory against the techno-demons he's battled for 5,000 years...and then he decides that, actually, he'd rather be on their side after all. He does get a measure of redemption later...after he's been killed and reduced to a talking severed head. So yeah.
** The Mirrodin block followed a trio of destiny-touched misfits trying to save their world from a tyrant most don't even know exists. They succeed! ...and then in the sequel we find out that the main character has been turned into a monster/zombie/demon who turns right around conquers the world for an even worse force. And in this story TheBadGuyWins, so not only is she never redeemed, she even survives.
** In the climax of that same long-running story, the ultimate good guy WizardClassic protagonist/messiah Urza, who was set up as the game's Big Good hero for six years, mind you, is on the brink of sealing his victory against the techno-demons he's battled for 5,000 years...and then he decides that, actually, he'd rather be on their side after all. He does get a measure of redemption later...after he's been killed and reduced to a talking severed head. So yeah.
** The Mirrodin block followed a trio of destiny-touched misfits trying to save their world from a tyrant most don't even know exists. They succeed! ...and then in the sequel we find out that the main character has been turned into a monster/zombie/demon who turns right around conquers the world for an even worse force. And in this story TheBadGuyWins, so not only is she never redeemed, she even survives.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
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** In addition to the actual ''deaths'', the 4th Edition also wrote out a fair number of gods (some ''very'' old and quite prominent) by retconniningly revealing that they were actually aspects of other gods all along. The gods may not be dead as such, but they were definitely written out of the setting in an unexpectedly anti-climactic and mundane way...
* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
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This trope is to works that follow Death Is Dramatic not following this, not any aversion to Death Is Dramatic.
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* In the earliest versions of ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'', it was possible, [[RandomNumberGod if the player rolled badly enough]], to have a character die during character creation. Later editions removed this from the main rules, but still kept it as an optional "Iron Man" rule.
* Generally, if a PlayerCharacter suffers a lethal CriticalFailure or exists in a game known for its lethality (e.g. ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', etc.), their death will qualify as this.
* Generally, if a PlayerCharacter suffers a lethal CriticalFailure or exists in a game known for its lethality (e.g. ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', etc.), their death will qualify as this.
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* In the earliest versions of TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}, it was possible, [[RandomNumberGod if the player rolled badly enough]], to have a character die during character creation. Later editions removed this from the main rules, but still kept it as an optional "Iron Man" rule.
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* In the earliest versions of TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}, ''TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}'', it was possible, [[RandomNumberGod if the player rolled badly enough]], to have a character die during character creation. Later editions removed this from the main rules, but still kept it as an optional "Iron Man" rule.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.codex.
* In the earliest versions of TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}, it was possible, [[RandomNumberGod if the player rolled badly enough]], to have a character die during character creation. Later editions removed this from the main rules, but still kept it as an optional "Iron Man" rule.
* Generally, if a PlayerCharacter suffers a lethal CriticalFailure or exists in a game known for its lethality (e.g. ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', etc.), their death will qualify as this.
* In the earliest versions of TabletopGame/{{Traveller}}, it was possible, [[RandomNumberGod if the player rolled badly enough]], to have a character die during character creation. Later editions removed this from the main rules, but still kept it as an optional "Iron Man" rule.
* Generally, if a PlayerCharacter suffers a lethal CriticalFailure or exists in a game known for its lethality (e.g. ''WarhammerFantasyRoleplay'', ''LegendOfTheFiveRings'', etc.), their death will qualify as this.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them.
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* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. Some fans argue that the Squats are OldShame and deserved to be removed, while Squats fans will invoke TheyChangedItNowItSucks. Games Workshop has stated numerous times that they have no desire to revisit the issue or argue about it with fans, however they did include a [[ContinuityNod reference]] to the Squats in the latest version of the game listing them as a non-extinct species, and they still allow them to be played in official events as long as the figurines are drafted under an officially supported army's codex.
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* Every time there's an Edition change in ''ForgottenRealms'', they take the pruning shears to the various established characters and the deities. Some get awesome deaths. Azuth the god of mages, an ascended mortal that got his position by [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt kicking the ass]] of the previous god of mages, pretty much gets eaten by Asmodeus to fuel his ascension to godhood.
** For the 4th Edition, they literally drop a continent on several Realms to get rid of them.
** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic and AGodAmI CanonSue, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other CanonSue characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .
** Also pulled on a vast array of characters. See also RocksFallEveryoneDies.
* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. In hindsight, this [[strike: may have been]] [[OldShame certainly was]] for the best...
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* Every time there's an Edition change in ''ForgottenRealms'', they take the pruning shears to the various established characters and the deities. Some get awesome deaths. Azuth the god of mages, an ascended mortal that got his position by [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt kicking the ass]] of the previous god of mages, pretty much gets eaten by Asmodeus to fuel his ascension to godhood.
** For the 4th Edition, they literally drop a continent on several Realms to get rid of them.
** Rumour has it that Mystra, greater deity of magic and AGodAmI CanonSue, got killed by getting hit on the back of the head, along with numerous other CanonSue characters, though most of them departed in ways that imply they can be brought back *groan* .
** Also pulled on a vast array of characters. See also RocksFallEveryoneDies.
* The Squats of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' got a hive-fleet dropped on them. In hindsight, this [[strike: may have been]] [[OldShame certainly was]] for the best...
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