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22nd Jul '16 4:54:15 AM Anddrix
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** One of the few villains of the Power of Three series, Ashfur [[spoiler:tried to get revenge on Squirrelflight, who rejected him as a mate a year ago, by killing her supposed kits Hollyleaf, Lionblaze and Jayfeather in hope that he would cause her the same pain that she caused him when she rejected him.]] [[BrokenBase Opinions remain divided across the fanbase on whether this was justified or not]]. However, some manic supporters of [[BaseBreaker Ashfur]] try to paint him as a helpless victim, and even go as far as portraying [[RonTheDeathEater Squirrelflight as a villain]]. Even worse, some of them even [[MisaimedFandom wish that he had been successful in killing the threes kits]].

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** One of the few villains of the Power of Three series, Ashfur [[spoiler:tried to get revenge on Squirrelflight, who rejected him as a mate a year ago, by killing her supposed kits Hollyleaf, Lionblaze and Jayfeather in hope that he would cause her the same pain that she caused him when she rejected him.]] [[BrokenBase Opinions remain divided across the fanbase on whether this was justified or not]]. However, some manic supporters of [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Ashfur]] try to paint him as a helpless victim, and even go as far as portraying [[RonTheDeathEater Squirrelflight as a villain]]. Even worse, some of them even [[MisaimedFandom wish that he had been successful in killing the threes kits]].
21st Jul '16 10:03:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* Hannibal Lecter from ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs''. Exacerbated by prequel ''Hannibal Rising'', which turns Hannibal from a SerialKiller to a vigilante on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge with a FreudianExcuse for his cannibalism.

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* Hannibal Lecter from ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs''. Exacerbated by prequel ''Hannibal Rising'', ''Literature/HannibalRising'', which turns Hannibal from a SerialKiller to a vigilante on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge with a FreudianExcuse for his cannibalism.
21st Jul '16 10:02:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].

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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].



* ''{{Redwall}}'s'' vermin sometimes get this, though in their case it's less "In Leather Pants" than "Posing For CutenessOverload", [[FetishFuel except among certain sections of the]] UsefulNotes/FurryFandom. Yeah, the woodlanders are prejudiced against them, but that that might be because the vermin attempt to ''eat'' them at every opportunity.

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* ''{{Redwall}}'s'' ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'s'' vermin sometimes get this, though in their case it's less "In Leather Pants" than "Posing For CutenessOverload", [[FetishFuel except among certain sections of the]] UsefulNotes/FurryFandom. Yeah, the woodlanders are prejudiced against them, but that that might be because the vermin attempt to ''eat'' them at every opportunity.



* Bohun from ''SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ( from "With the Fire and the Sword"). His devotion to Helena is admirable, but lots of the readers forget that Helena feared him due to the fact that his actions were considered violent and unpredictable even by XVII century Cossacks.

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* Bohun from ''SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ''Literature/SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ( from "With the Fire and the Sword"). His devotion to Helena is admirable, but lots of the readers forget that Helena feared him due to the fact that his actions were considered violent and unpredictable even by XVII century Cossacks.
21st Jul '16 10:02:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy super-intelligent]]. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].

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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy super-intelligent]].super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].
10th Jul '16 3:59:56 AM DaibhidC
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** In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Pratchett deliberately subverts the trope at the end, when the dashingly gorgeous male vampire asks his object of affection, the young witch Agnes, if she'd reason with the mob to save him from the stake. Agnes, whose qualifications as a [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Witch of Lancre]] derive from her being sensible and intelligent, contemplates his sexy gorgeousness and the way he fills out those leather pants, then remembers some of the evil things she's seen the vampires do. She tells him that she cares so very much for him, that she'd hold them back by their coat-tails. It acknowledges that she is regretful that he has to die (temporarily), but knows it must be done.

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** In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Pratchett deliberately subverts the trope at the end, when the dashingly gorgeous male vampire asks his object of affection, the young witch Agnes, if she'd reason with the mob to save him from the stake. Her SplitPersonality Perdita is tempted, but Agnes, whose qualifications as a [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Witch of Lancre]] derive from her being sensible and intelligent, contemplates his sexy gorgeousness and the way he fills out those leather pants, then intelligent remembers some of the evil things she's seen the vampires do. She tells him that she cares so very much for wouldn't just let the mob kill him, that she'd hold them back by their coat-tails. It acknowledges that she is regretful that he has to die (temporarily), but knows it must be done.coats for them while they did it.
7th Jul '16 8:55:43 AM StFan
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* Most of the males in the ''BlackJewels'' series fit this trope. Daemon and [[spoiler:his father]] Saetan are literally written to be walking sex, and are given sympathetic backstories and valid reasons to be total bastards. But they're still murderers.

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* Most of the males in the ''BlackJewels'' ''Literature/BlackJewels'' series fit this trope. Daemon and [[spoiler:his father]] Saetan are literally written to be walking sex, and are given sympathetic backstories and valid reasons to be total bastards. But they're still murderers.
22nd Jun '16 6:23:09 PM julietvalcouer
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** Creator/TimothyZahn did not help matters by increasingly making that characterization borderline-canon as he expanded Thrawn's backstory or providing loopholes for fans to justify even Thrawn's more dubiously-moral decisions.
19th Jun '16 2:33:08 PM nombretomado
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* To a certain extent, [[TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]] from the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse''. Yes, Creator/TimothyZahn made him and the other Imperials complex and generally admirable. He wasn't ''evil'', not black-and-white. But he was very ruthless, pragmatic, and above all, ''Imperial''. He wasn't above YouHaveFailedMe, even if he needed more of a reason and was more forgiving of crew who weren't at fault. He [[ILied lied]], he was willing to hand Leia and her unborn twins to Joruus C'baoth, and he kept the Noghri in indefinite servitude with the lie that when he finished repairing their homeworld, they'd be free. Often, though, he's portrayed purely as someone who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what he had to do]] and chose to become a NecessaryEvil.

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* To a certain extent, [[TheThrawnTrilogy [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Thrawn]] from the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse''. Yes, Creator/TimothyZahn made him and the other Imperials complex and generally admirable. He wasn't ''evil'', not black-and-white. But he was very ruthless, pragmatic, and above all, ''Imperial''. He wasn't above YouHaveFailedMe, even if he needed more of a reason and was more forgiving of crew who weren't at fault. He [[ILied lied]], he was willing to hand Leia and her unborn twins to Joruus C'baoth, and he kept the Noghri in indefinite servitude with the lie that when he finished repairing their homeworld, they'd be free. Often, though, he's portrayed purely as someone who [[IDidWhatIHadToDo did what he had to do]] and chose to become a NecessaryEvil.
9th May '16 8:37:08 AM Morgenthaler
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* An in-universe example appears in ''TheAdventuresOfTomSawyer''. In the chapter where it's revealed that Injun Joe was dead, it's mentioned that the women of the town had been in the process of getting together a petition to get him pardoned (despite the fact that he committed murder and framed a man too drunk to remember the events of the night properly). As Twain notes, the women would probably have put together the petition if it had been Satan himself being arrested.
* Irial from ''WickedLovely''. Good looking and interesting, yes, but far from good.

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* An in-universe example appears in ''TheAdventuresOfTomSawyer''.''Literature/TheAdventuresOfTomSawyer''. In the chapter where it's revealed that Injun Joe was dead, it's mentioned that the women of the town had been in the process of getting together a petition to get him pardoned (despite the fact that he committed murder and framed a man too drunk to remember the events of the night properly). As Twain notes, the women would probably have put together the petition if it had been Satan himself being arrested.
* Irial from ''WickedLovely''.''Literature/WickedLovely''. Good looking and interesting, yes, but far from good.
6th May '16 9:37:30 AM Silverblade2
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* Murtagh from ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'' has a vast following in the fandom. He's frequently referred to as the "real hero" of the Cycle. Please note that this didn't apply until ''after'' his [[spoiler: FaceHeelTurn.]]

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* ''Literature/InheritanceCycle''
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Murtagh from ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'' has a vast following in the fandom. He's frequently referred to as the "real hero" of the Cycle. Please note that this didn't apply until ''after'' his [[spoiler: FaceHeelTurn.]]



* Mrs. Coulter and Lord Asriel in ''HisDarkMaterials''. Granted, they're {{AntiVillain}}s, but many people are willing to completely ignore the questionable, cruel, and downright ''evil'' things they have done.

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* Mrs. Coulter and Lord Asriel in ''HisDarkMaterials''.''Literature/HisDarkMaterials''. Granted, they're {{AntiVillain}}s, but many people are willing to completely ignore the questionable, cruel, and downright ''evil'' things they have done.



* Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish in ''ASongOfIceAndFire''. Charming, handsome, witty, always cheerful and a ManipulativeBastard with ChronicBackstabbingDisorder to boot. His ultimate goals are rather unclear, as is just how much of the anarchy and war that dominates the books has been orchestrated by him, but he has taken credit for the majority of it and its implied to be little more than DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. Whilst the character is definitely subject to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and has many hidden depths to his personality, corners of the fandom treat him like a divine savior whose goals are all working to the benefit of the small folk, the people the wars have screwed over the most. Not to mention, they also "forget" how he [[ForcefulKiss forces unwanted kisses]] on [[spoiler: his teenage niece-by-marriage]] Sansa Stark, his disciple and possible candidate for Queen, how he personally murdered [[spoiler:his wife, Lysa Arryn]] and was responsible for the deaths of [[spoiler:Jon Arryn and Sansa's father Ned Stark]] and how he forced an 11-year-old girl [[spoiler:Sansa's friend, Jeyne Poole]] into prostitution, then sold Jeyne into marriage to a {{Sadist}}.

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* * ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''.
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Petyr 'Littlefinger' Baelish in ''ASongOfIceAndFire''.Baelish. Charming, handsome, witty, always cheerful and a ManipulativeBastard with ChronicBackstabbingDisorder to boot. His ultimate goals are rather unclear, as is just how much of the anarchy and war that dominates the books has been orchestrated by him, but he has taken credit for the majority of it and its implied to be little more than DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. Whilst the character is definitely subject to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation and has many hidden depths to his personality, corners of the fandom treat him like a divine savior whose goals are all working to the benefit of the small folk, the people the wars have screwed over the most. Not to mention, they also "forget" how he [[ForcefulKiss forces unwanted kisses]] on [[spoiler: his teenage niece-by-marriage]] Sansa Stark, his disciple and possible candidate for Queen, how he personally murdered [[spoiler:his wife, Lysa Arryn]] and was responsible for the deaths of [[spoiler:Jon Arryn and Sansa's father Ned Stark]] and how he forced an 11-year-old girl [[spoiler:Sansa's friend, Jeyne Poole]] into prostitution, then sold Jeyne into marriage to a {{Sadist}}.
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