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24th Sep '16 2:32:14 PM scourge728
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*** To be fair, he DID spend most of his life in a place filled with practically nothing but cruel practically moraless jerks and starvation.
25th Aug '16 6:49:57 AM StFan
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* Invoked in-universe in the first ''Literature/BlackCompany'' novel. Croaker, the main character and narrator, is the surgeon of the titular mercenary company and also an amateur historian who keeps the Company's annals. The Company works for an enigmatic female EvilOverlord called the Lady, and Croaker before long starts writing what amounts to bad self-insert RealPersonFic starring himself becoming romantically involved with a romantically idealized version of her. Then Croaker meets the ''real'' Lady, and she scares the crap out of him, after which he regards the whole thing as an OldShame (but it doesn't stop the other Company members from constantly ribbing him about his "girlfriend"). [[spoiler: Then, in the last book of the initial trilogy, Croaker gets to know the real Lady better as a deeply flawed but human individual- albeit one with godlike levels of magical power- and ends up falling for her anyway. After she gets BroughtDownToNormal and joins the Company herself, they're the OfficialCouple for most of the series.]].

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* Invoked in-universe in the first ''Literature/BlackCompany'' novel.novel of ''Literature/TheBlackCompany'' series. Croaker, the main character and narrator, is the surgeon of the titular mercenary company and also an amateur historian who keeps the Company's annals. The Company works for an enigmatic female EvilOverlord called the Lady, and Croaker before long starts writing what amounts to bad self-insert RealPersonFic starring himself becoming romantically involved with a romantically idealized version of her. Then Croaker meets the ''real'' Lady, and she scares the crap out of him, after which he regards the whole thing as an OldShame (but it doesn't stop the other Company members from constantly ribbing him about his "girlfriend"). [[spoiler: Then, in the last book of the initial trilogy, Croaker gets to know the real Lady better as a deeply flawed but human individual- albeit one with godlike levels of magical power- and ends up falling for her anyway. After she gets BroughtDownToNormal and joins the Company herself, they're the OfficialCouple for most of the series.]].
25th Jul '16 5:31:38 PM gman992
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** Tywin Lannister has a fair amount of fans, who admire his talent for scheming and take as WordOfGod his brother's assessment that while a harsh man, he was no harsher than necessary, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans acted for the good of the family/realm]]. The "no harsher than necessary" goes out the window when we learn he once ''ordered a gang-rape of 14-year-old girl to punish his son''. Regardless of any positive outcomes of his actions, Tywin is shown to be totally unempathetic and treats everyone as pawns in his current scheme. He may have been upset about his beloved wife Joanna dying in childbirth, but that doesn't justify his horrible treatment of Tyrion, refusing to name them heir to Casterly Rock, treating them as an embarrassment to the family for being a dwarf, and leaving Tyrion permanently damaged with his cruel treatment. Moreover, the circumstances of [[spoiler: Tywin's death at Tyrion's hand]] basically imply that he was just a hypocrite, and that Tywin's adoring brother [[NobleTopEnforcer Kevan]] was deluded by love for his brother into seeing good that wasn't there. In fairness, Kevan and Genna knew what Tywin was, they just loved him for being their brother.

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** Tywin Lannister has a fair amount of fans, who admire his talent for scheming and take as WordOfGod his brother's assessment that while a harsh man, he was no harsher than necessary, and [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans acted for the good of the family/realm]]. The "no harsher than necessary" goes out the window when we learn he once ''ordered a gang-rape of 14-year-old girl to punish his son''. Regardless of any positive outcomes of his actions, Tywin is shown to be totally unempathetic and treats everyone as pawns in his current scheme. He may have been upset about his beloved wife Joanna dying in childbirth, but that doesn't justify his horrible treatment of Tyrion, refusing to name them him heir to Casterly Rock, treating them him as an embarrassment to the family for being a dwarf, and leaving Tyrion permanently damaged with his cruel treatment. Moreover, the circumstances of [[spoiler: Tywin's death at Tyrion's hand]] basically imply that he was just a hypocrite, and that Tywin's adoring brother [[NobleTopEnforcer Kevan]] was deluded by love for his brother into seeing good that wasn't there. In fairness, Kevan and Genna knew what Tywin was, they just loved him for being their brother.
22nd Jul '16 4:54:15 AM Anddrix
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** One of the few villains of the Power of Three series, Ashfur [[spoiler:tried to get revenge on Squirrelflight, who rejected him as a mate a year ago, by killing her supposed kits Hollyleaf, Lionblaze and Jayfeather in hope that he would cause her the same pain that she caused him when she rejected him.]] [[BrokenBase Opinions remain divided across the fanbase on whether this was justified or not]]. However, some manic supporters of [[BaseBreaker Ashfur]] try to paint him as a helpless victim, and even go as far as portraying [[RonTheDeathEater Squirrelflight as a villain]]. Even worse, some of them even [[MisaimedFandom wish that he had been successful in killing the threes kits]].

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** One of the few villains of the Power of Three series, Ashfur [[spoiler:tried to get revenge on Squirrelflight, who rejected him as a mate a year ago, by killing her supposed kits Hollyleaf, Lionblaze and Jayfeather in hope that he would cause her the same pain that she caused him when she rejected him.]] [[BrokenBase Opinions remain divided across the fanbase on whether this was justified or not]]. However, some manic supporters of [[BaseBreaker [[BaseBreakingCharacter Ashfur]] try to paint him as a helpless victim, and even go as far as portraying [[RonTheDeathEater Squirrelflight as a villain]]. Even worse, some of them even [[MisaimedFandom wish that he had been successful in killing the threes kits]].
21st Jul '16 10:03:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* Hannibal Lecter from ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs''. Exacerbated by prequel ''Hannibal Rising'', which turns Hannibal from a SerialKiller to a vigilante on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge with a FreudianExcuse for his cannibalism.

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* Hannibal Lecter from ''Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs''. Exacerbated by prequel ''Hannibal Rising'', ''Literature/HannibalRising'', which turns Hannibal from a SerialKiller to a vigilante on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge with a FreudianExcuse for his cannibalism.
21st Jul '16 10:02:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].

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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' ''Literature/{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].



* ''{{Redwall}}'s'' vermin sometimes get this, though in their case it's less "In Leather Pants" than "Posing For CutenessOverload", [[FetishFuel except among certain sections of the]] UsefulNotes/FurryFandom. Yeah, the woodlanders are prejudiced against them, but that that might be because the vermin attempt to ''eat'' them at every opportunity.

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* ''{{Redwall}}'s'' ''Literature/{{Redwall}}'s'' vermin sometimes get this, though in their case it's less "In Leather Pants" than "Posing For CutenessOverload", [[FetishFuel except among certain sections of the]] UsefulNotes/FurryFandom. Yeah, the woodlanders are prejudiced against them, but that that might be because the vermin attempt to ''eat'' them at every opportunity.



* Bohun from ''SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ( from "With the Fire and the Sword"). His devotion to Helena is admirable, but lots of the readers forget that Helena feared him due to the fact that his actions were considered violent and unpredictable even by XVII century Cossacks.

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* Bohun from ''SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ''Literature/SienkiewiczTrilogy'' ( from "With the Fire and the Sword"). His devotion to Helena is admirable, but lots of the readers forget that Helena feared him due to the fact that his actions were considered violent and unpredictable even by XVII century Cossacks.
21st Jul '16 10:02:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy super-intelligent]]. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].

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* Senna Wales from the ''{{Everworld}}'' series. She's [[HotWitch attractive]] and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy super-intelligent]].super-intelligent. She also gets a VillainEpisode in the ninth book of the series, dedicated to exploring her personality and past, that gives her a FreudianExcuse and paints her as more of a JerkassWoobie than a straight-up villain. Of course, most of her fans fully embrace that she's sick and twisted and just decide to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for her anyway]].
10th Jul '16 3:59:56 AM DaibhidC
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** In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Pratchett deliberately subverts the trope at the end, when the dashingly gorgeous male vampire asks his object of affection, the young witch Agnes, if she'd reason with the mob to save him from the stake. Agnes, whose qualifications as a [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Witch of Lancre]] derive from her being sensible and intelligent, contemplates his sexy gorgeousness and the way he fills out those leather pants, then remembers some of the evil things she's seen the vampires do. She tells him that she cares so very much for him, that she'd hold them back by their coat-tails. It acknowledges that she is regretful that he has to die (temporarily), but knows it must be done.

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** In ''Discworld/CarpeJugulum'', Pratchett deliberately subverts the trope at the end, when the dashingly gorgeous male vampire asks his object of affection, the young witch Agnes, if she'd reason with the mob to save him from the stake. Her SplitPersonality Perdita is tempted, but Agnes, whose qualifications as a [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Witch of Lancre]] derive from her being sensible and intelligent, contemplates his sexy gorgeousness and the way he fills out those leather pants, then intelligent remembers some of the evil things she's seen the vampires do. She tells him that she cares so very much for wouldn't just let the mob kill him, that she'd hold them back by their coat-tails. It acknowledges that she is regretful that he has to die (temporarily), but knows it must be done.coats for them while they did it.
7th Jul '16 8:55:43 AM StFan
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* Most of the males in the ''BlackJewels'' series fit this trope. Daemon and [[spoiler:his father]] Saetan are literally written to be walking sex, and are given sympathetic backstories and valid reasons to be total bastards. But they're still murderers.

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* Most of the males in the ''BlackJewels'' ''Literature/BlackJewels'' series fit this trope. Daemon and [[spoiler:his father]] Saetan are literally written to be walking sex, and are given sympathetic backstories and valid reasons to be total bastards. But they're still murderers.
22nd Jun '16 6:23:09 PM julietvalcouer
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** Creator/TimothyZahn did not help matters by increasingly making that characterization borderline-canon as he expanded Thrawn's backstory or providing loopholes for fans to justify even Thrawn's more dubiously-moral decisions.
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