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16th Aug '17 3:13:46 PM AutumnLeaves
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* ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', with its CrapsackWorld, rarely has characters whom fans kill off ''merely'' for a ship's sake (for example, Cersei can die not just for Jaime and Brienne to hook up but also to make space for someone more competent on the throne), but there still are a few straight examples.
** Selyse Baratheon who rarely makes it beyond the fifth chapter in Stannis/anyone else fics. Melisandre, Stannis' other canon partner and very hard to kill, can just vanish from the plot if she isn't paired with him.
** Sandor Clegane sometimes gets it from the shippers of Sansa/anyone else.
31st Jul '17 6:38:43 PM rjd1922
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* Literature/Maximum Ride has a ''lot''. Dylan, Maya, Lissa, Brigid, Sam...

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has a ''lot''. Dylan, Maya, Lissa, Brigid, Sam...
11th Jul '17 11:23:41 AM HamburgerTime
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* The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse had this for a while with Callista. Never mind that Luke gets [[ChickMagnet a new girlfriend in just about every installment]], it was hard to find a Luke/Mara fic that didn't include a TakeThat against Callista. Fans didn't want her to just disappear, but die, preferably at Luke's hands. [[spoiler:They got their wish when ''FateOfTheJedi'' revealed her to have been devoured by an EldritchAbomination.]]

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* The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse had this for a while with Callista. Never mind that Luke gets [[ChickMagnet a new girlfriend in just about every installment]], it was hard to find a Luke/Mara fic that didn't include a TakeThat against Callista. Fans didn't want her to just disappear, but die, preferably at Luke's hands. [[spoiler:They got their wish when ''FateOfTheJedi'' ''Literature/FateOfTheJedi'' revealed her to have been devoured [[YouWillBeAssimilated assimilated]] by an EldritchAbomination.EldritchAbomination and Luke {{Mercy Kill}}s her.]]
22nd Jun '17 9:32:42 PM KizunaTallis
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* Ron and Ginny Weasley of ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are loathed by many militant Harry/Hermione and Harry/Luna (hell, pretty much Harry/anyone not Ginny) shippers, and have been since [[WordOfGod the author]] confirmed Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione as {{canon}} in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince''. Ginny was hated even before then, perhaps in response to the Harry/Ginny shippers who were correctly predicting the couple's canonization, but probably more directly related to her increased prominence in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix''. There is a (much) smaller subset of shippers who bash Harry for being "stupid" enough to choose Ginny over Hermione, or who would have preferred to see Ginny get together with Harry's rival Draco Malfoy.
** Militant Harry/Hermione shippers (or "Harmonians" to differentiate from non-militant H/Hr shippers) have become so notorious for their utter demonization of any character who gets in the way of their ship that militant shippers in any other fandom will sometimes be called the Harmonians of the fandom.
** As noted on the RonTheDeathEater page, the Weasleys in general tend to get this from rabid shippers. Ron and Ginny get killed off in rather graphic fashion in fic, often ''before the story even starts'', or have their faults (real but minor or invented from whole cloth) blown to ridiculous proportions.
** Cho Chang also got it from almost everyone who ships Harry with someone else. This started before Book Five, when all we knew about her was that she was a pretty and popular athlete who (gently) turned Harry down on his first attempt to ask her out. This [[YokoOhNo extended into real life]] when actress Katie Leung was picked to play Cho in the films. She got criticism of her looks and her racial background, and even got ''death threats''.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter''
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Ron and Ginny Weasley of ''Literature/HarryPotter'' are is loathed by many militant Harry/Hermione Hermione/anyone other than him shippers (especially those that prefer her with Harry and Harry/Luna (hell, pretty much Harry/anyone Draco), with the general complaint amongst them being that they feel Hermione [[NoAccountingForTaste is too good for Ron]] and could do better than him. And still others are just simply not Ginny) shippers, and have been since [[WordOfGod fans of BelligerentSexualTension types of relationships.
*** Subverted in ''Fanfic/ParadigmOfUncertainty'': Ron has literally Died For
the author]] confirmed Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione Ship, but he's not demonized, [[spoiler:and turns out to be alive in the third story]]. The author is on record as {{canon}} in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince''. saying she regretted killing him off.
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Ginny is similarly despised by people who ship Harry with other characters (especially Hermione, Luna, and Draco). She was hated already a BaseBreakingCharacter even before then, they got together in the sixth book, perhaps in response to the Harry/Ginny shippers who were correctly predicting the couple's canonization, but probably more directly related to her increased prominence (and sudden, off-screen character development) in ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix''. There is a (much) smaller subset of shippers who bash are also those anti-shippers that feel the relationship was StrangledByTheRedString and Ginny's feelings for Harry for being "stupid" enough to choose Ginny over Hermione, or who would have preferred to see Ginny get together with Harry's rival Draco Malfoy.
** Militant Harry/Hermione shippers (or "Harmonians" to differentiate from non-militant H/Hr shippers) have become so notorious for their utter demonization of any character who gets in the way of their ship that militant shippers in any other fandom will sometimes be called the Harmonians of the fandom.
** As noted on the RonTheDeathEater page, the Weasleys in general tend to get this from rabid shippers. Ron and Ginny get killed off in rather graphic fashion in fic, often ''before the story even starts'', or have their faults (real but minor or invented from whole cloth) blown to ridiculous proportions.
are nothing more beyond a CelebrityCrush.
** Cho Chang also got it bad from almost everyone who ships Harry with someone else. This started before Book Five, when all we knew about her was that she was a pretty and popular athlete who (gently) turned Harry down on his first attempt to ask her out. This [[YokoOhNo extended into real life]] when actress Katie Leung was picked to play Cho in the films. She got criticism of her looks It eventually died off after they dated and her racial background, and even got ''death threats''.then broke up.



*** There's also a more reasonable subgroup who were disappointed because they'd hoped that Tonks would be just as gay herself.

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*** There's also a more reasonable another subgroup who were disappointed because they'd hoped that Tonks would be just as gay herself.



** Subverted in ''Fanfic/ParadigmOfUncertainty'': Ron has literally Died For Our Ship, but he's not demonised [[spoiler:and turns out to be alive in the third story]] - the author is on record as saying she regretted killing him off.
** Traditionally Pansy has gotten this treatment if Draco is paired with another girl (which is saying something, because she's not exactly treated kindly by canon either). There does seem to be a tendency to [[{{Averted}} avert]] this among Harry/Draco shippers, though, who simply reimagine her into being [[LikeBrotherAndSister Draco's close friend]] instead of his girlfriend.
** After it was revealed that James Potter was a JerkJock in his youth, he suffered this instantaneously overnight in favor of Snape/Lily who refuse to see Snape's (self-aknowledged) faults and fuck-ups to insist that James was an evil asshole who somehow forced PluckyGirl Lily to marry him. Similarly, many Snape fans bash '''Lily''' herself for daring to break off her (rather toxic at that rate) friendship with Snape after he called her a "mudblood", blaming her for the incident and insisting that she owed him vagina, uh, affection just because he was obsessively in love with her.
** One suspects the Weasleys wouldn't be vilified in ''Fanfic/KnowledgeIsPower'' so much if not for the Harry/Hermione ship.
** Invoked in the Creator/HansVonHozel story ''Valentine's Day'', where Harry [[MurderTheHypotenuse sets a dragon on Ron]] so he can have Hermione for himself.

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** Subverted in ''Fanfic/ParadigmOfUncertainty'': Ron has literally Died For Our Ship, but he's not demonised [[spoiler:and turns out to be alive in the third story]] - the author is on record as saying she regretted killing him off.
** Traditionally
Traditionally, Pansy Parkinson has gotten this treatment if Draco is paired with another girl or guy (which is saying something, because she's not exactly treated kindly by canon either). There does seem to be a tendency to [[{{Averted}} avert]] this among Harry/Draco shippers, though, who simply reimagine re-imagine her into being [[LikeBrotherAndSister Draco's close friend]] instead of his girlfriend.
** After it was revealed that James Potter was a JerkJock in his youth, he suffered this instantaneously overnight in favor of Snape/Lily who refuse to see Snape's (self-aknowledged) (self-acknowledged) faults and fuck-ups screw-ups to insist that James was [[RonTheDeathEater an evil asshole asshole]] who somehow forced PluckyGirl Lily [[SympatheticSue poor innocent Lily]] to marry him. Similarly, many Snape fans bash '''Lily''' herself for daring to break off her (rather toxic at that rate) friendship with Snape after he called her a "mudblood", "mudblood" (the magical world equivalent of the n-word), blaming her for the incident and insisting that she owed him vagina, uh, her love and affection just because he was obsessively in love with her.
** One suspects the Weasleys wouldn't be vilified in ''Fanfic/KnowledgeIsPower'' so much if not for the Harry/Hermione ship.
** Invoked in the Creator/HansVonHozel story ''Valentine's Day'', where Harry [[MurderTheHypotenuse sets a dragon on Ron]] so he can have Hermione for himself.
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25th Nov '16 9:04:37 PM nombretomado
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* The prevailing ship in ''BridgeToTerabithia'' fandom is Jess/Leslie, and by that we mean literally the entire fandom ships it. A number of shippers of this pairing, however, are hostile to Julia Edmunds, Jess's HotTeacher, since Jess's PrecociousCrush on her ultimately causes the ContrivedCoincidence that [[spoiler:gets Leslie killed]].

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* The prevailing ship in ''BridgeToTerabithia'' ''Literature/BridgeToTerabithia'' fandom is Jess/Leslie, and by that we mean literally the entire fandom ships it. A number of shippers of this pairing, however, are hostile to Julia Edmunds, Jess's HotTeacher, since Jess's PrecociousCrush on her ultimately causes the ContrivedCoincidence that [[spoiler:gets Leslie killed]].
21st Sep '16 11:38:24 PM AnneOfCleves
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*** There's also a more reasonable subgroup who were disappointed because they'd hoped that Tonks would be just as gay herself.
15th Jun '16 8:40:37 PM nombretomado
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* The StarWarsExpandedUniverse had this for a while with Callista. Never mind that Luke gets [[ChickMagnet a new girlfriend in just about every installment]], it was hard to find a Luke/Mara fic that didn't include a TakeThat against Callista. Fans didn't want her to just disappear, but die, preferably at Luke's hands. [[spoiler:They got their wish when ''FateOfTheJedi'' revealed her to have been devoured by an EldritchAbomination.]]
* Portions of the {{Temeraire}} fandom regard Jane Roland as a jaded harpy incapable of love and thus unworthy of Will Laurence. The creepy part is the overlap with the Laurence[=/=]Emily (yes, as in Jane's ''daughter'') 'shippers.

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* The StarWarsExpandedUniverse Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse had this for a while with Callista. Never mind that Luke gets [[ChickMagnet a new girlfriend in just about every installment]], it was hard to find a Luke/Mara fic that didn't include a TakeThat against Callista. Fans didn't want her to just disappear, but die, preferably at Luke's hands. [[spoiler:They got their wish when ''FateOfTheJedi'' revealed her to have been devoured by an EldritchAbomination.]]
* Portions of the {{Temeraire}} Literature/{{Temeraire}} fandom regard Jane Roland as a jaded harpy incapable of love and thus unworthy of Will Laurence. The creepy part is the overlap with the Laurence[=/=]Emily (yes, as in Jane's ''daughter'') 'shippers.
9th Feb '16 3:34:08 PM Adept
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* OlderThanRadio: While it may not have an active ''internet'' fandom, trope happens to Sir Walter Scott's ''Literature/{{Ivanhoe}}'', in which the hero marries his VictoriousChildhoodFriend Rowena rather than Rebecca, who has spent the entire book supporting and pining for him. Two other books, [[VanityFair William Makepeace Thackeray]]'s "Rebecca and Rowena" (1850) and Edgar Eager's "Knight's Castle" (1956), attempt to "[[ExternalRetcon correct]]" this ending in favor of an Ivanhoe/Rebecca ship. Interestingly enough, especially given the times in which it was written (when intermarriage was simply unthought of), Scott's fans were so disappointed with his choice, and sent him so many angry letters about it, they forced him to tell them in the preface of a future edition that it would have been impossible for Rebecca to have married Ivanhoe, [[{{MST3K Mantra}} that it's just a book, and they should really just relax]].

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* OlderThanRadio: While it may not have an active ''internet'' fandom, trope happens to Sir Walter Scott's ''Literature/{{Ivanhoe}}'', in which the hero marries his VictoriousChildhoodFriend Rowena rather than Rebecca, who has spent the entire book supporting and pining for him. Two other books, [[VanityFair William Makepeace Thackeray]]'s Thackeray's "Rebecca and Rowena" (1850) and Edgar Eager's "Knight's Castle" (1956), attempt to "[[ExternalRetcon correct]]" this ending in favor of an Ivanhoe/Rebecca ship. Interestingly enough, especially given the times in which it was written (when intermarriage was simply unthought of), Scott's fans were so disappointed with his choice, and sent him so many angry letters about it, they forced him to tell them in the preface of a future edition that it would have been impossible for Rebecca to have married Ivanhoe, [[{{MST3K Mantra}} that it's just a book, and they should really just relax]].
30th Oct '15 11:59:26 AM katethegr8
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*** I think seven pages is giving a little too much credit...
**** Amendment. A hardy six foot four Scotsman will be dead in seven pages, everyone else in less than half that.
16th Sep '15 8:54:59 AM Red-Dead-Redeemer
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