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As fondly remembered as [[WesternAnimation/{{Rugrats}} this show]] is, sometimes it produces moments worse than the smell of a loaded diaper.
* Kittens: There was an episode that had a really dumb moment, and the episode's called "Piggy's Pizza Place". The episode wasn't that bad, but what I thought was stupid was when that jerk in the bull costume kept putting Angelica in the time out booth all because she was just trying to get her tickets. Seriously, all she was trying to do was get her tickets off of Piggy's tail that she won fair and square. And its pretty obvious that they're stuck to his tail and she's trying to get them off! How that idiot can't see that I'll never know.
* Tropers/DiscoGlacier: One moment that leaves a bad taste in my mouth is in "The Big Flush", when [[TheMillstone Lil]] unwittingly traps Deedee and Betty in the steam room when it's at its maximum temperature. Considering the two were in serious danger of heat exhaustion (and they were parched by the time they were freed), this sequence comes off as [[DudeNotFunny mean-spirited]] rather than funny, especially considering this series isn't known for such humor.
** Kishou: For me, it was the moment that the babies decided to "flush" the pool because they're so convinced that it's a potty. Even when Chuckie explains that there are people in it, Tommy brushes it off saying "they shouldn't be playing in the potty anyway". I get that they're babies and don't know any better, but th It actually made me wish Tommy died via drowning for being actively endangering his and the other's lives because their next big adventure was to go to a pool with no supervision.
* Tropers/TotalDramaRox97: Didi can't be given the award for "Most Attentive Parent" but in the episode "The Big Showdown", this inattentiveness irritating levels. Dil was having bad dreams and Didi thinks all the Reptar stuff is scaring Dil. So what does she do? She takes away all of Dil's and Tommy's Reptar stuff and replaces it with a character named Goober the Gopher after a hotline caller recommended it. It's easy to understand why she wanted to keep it hidden Dil, but why Tommy he was never crying or anything? When Tommy shows a distaste to Goober, Didi considers throwing the Reptar stuff away. One can only wonder why she thought that would be a good idea. Thankfully, the hotline director recommends she goes to a Toy Fair where a man dressed as Goober would be. This is where it gets infuriating. While there Betty tells Didi that she might be going overboard and tries to point out Reptar isn't that bad, Didi disagrees. Here's the infuriating part. When they go to meet Goober, the man turns out to be a complete JerkAss. He takes Tommy's Reptar toy making him cry and replaces it with a Goober stuffed animal. Time for Didi to stand up to Goober? Not quite. She defends Goober and is shocked that Tommy would respond that way. The guy just stole your baby's toy, made him cry, and she thinks he's the good guy? I understand Didi can lack common sense sometimes but this episode took it way too far.
** Kishou: Personally I felt the guy in the Goober suit was a DesignatedVillain for the episode. I get Goober was meant to be a joke and parody on [[Series/BarneyAndFriends Barney the Dinosaur]], but Chuckie and Dil honestly liked having a role model who wasn't so scary looking. They could have done something nice with Gobber to show that it's okay for friends to like different things, and it was kind of half-assed with emphasizing all Goober does is "give hugs". Yes, what the guy in the suit did was pretty mean stealing another kid's toy (and all the horrible parenting points go to Didi for not noticing this), but we don't know anything about this guy besides he's kind of a jerk. He might have a legit reason to hate the Reptar suit guy. He was eating his sandwich, for one, and when he threatened him, the Reptar guy just mocked him saying he would give it back if he would "give me a hug!" In the end, he lost the fight, and everyone cheers for Reptar for saving the kids he sent flying while booing him for saying "hey, I could have done that too!" It was really both their faults as Reptar pushed Gobber into the table that sent the babies flying.
* Tropers/CJCroen1393: "Wash-Dry Story" randomly turns into a ''Theatre/{{Grease}}'' parody for no good reason. All of the songs (besides "Cynthia", which was actually [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming kind of sweet]]) were completely random, sounded awful and filled with {{Painful Rhyme}}s. It was full of plot holes (how exactly did Angelica know they were all singing when she was at home and not at the laundromat?), the [=McNulty=] boys were [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized horribly]] and the plot was just nonexistent, and not in a good way. Overall just a terribly dull episode.
* PrincessTogezo: I can find something to like about almost any ''Rugrats'' episode, but "Silent Angelica" comes off as a total misfire. It just feels too mean-spirited for a show like this one. Basically, to get new toys, Angelica tries to behave herself by staying quiet until her mom's done with a business call and her dad's done watching a badminton game, but the babies keep being loud. Somehow, Angelica never gets the idea to whisper to them and explain what's going on, and so they think something's wrong with her (like maybe she's sad or sick). At the end of the episode, when the babies are bothering her and being loud, she finally snaps and yells that there's nothing wrong with her and she's just trying to get some toys. However, Drew and Charlotte heard this, and because of her yelling and the mess in the room, decide that Angelica shouldn't get any toys (to add insult to injury, this was just a few seconds before the time where Angelica could stop being quiet). In most ''Rugrats'' episodes, when Angelica gets punished, it's because she did something to deserve it. Here, she was genuinely trying to behave, and yet she got punished anyway. It's uncomfortably similar to the later [[WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb "Candace Gets Busted"]] in this regard, and definitely one of the weaker episodes of ''Rugrats''.
* Tropers/BronyOfTheOctaves: The episode 'Tricycle Thief' was the biggest middle finger insulting episode of the show. The basic premise is that Susie's tricycle goes missing, and blames Angelica for stealing it just because she ended up damaging it earlier in the episode. Now this would have been a decent episode using the "{{Misblamed}}" plot, but instead comes off as a degrading episode to Angelica with Susie literally decides that as a means to make Angelica confess (to something she honestly doesn't know about..) or else her dang doll is going to be sent into the air by Chuckie's balloon. Even if it's made to seem Angelica "stole" Susie's tricycle, you can tell she didn't and yet this entire episode is making you sit through god knows how many agonizing minutes of Angelica pleading that she didn't steal the tricycle. It's a basic CharacterDerailment to Susie, who's known to be level headed (at least before ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' came in) and just having her order Phil and Lil into holding Angelica like that (especially when Cynthia is let go). It actually made this troper smile when Angelica started to give a huge TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Susie after it's revealed she obviously didn't steal the tricycle, even if it was a little one. But of course it was taken back when Cynthia is returned. The episode was just poorly done and derailed Susie's character, as well as Phil and Lil's, but not so much.
* Tropers/MsCC93: My moment would be in the episode "Chuckie's Wonderful Life," in a scene after Chuckie "loses" his father's CD and gets angry at his friends for influencing him to take his dad's CD (when really, it was Angelica who stole Chaz' CD). Angelica flat out tells Chuckie that [[KickTheDog the world would be better off without him]]. This is taking Angelica too far in my opinion, because even though she's a {{jerkass}}, I'd never think she would do such a thing! In all fairness, Angelica ''[[LaserGuidedKarma does]]'' end up getting punished by her father though.
* Tropers/neonhitch: I love this series to pieces, though I disliked the episode 'Curse of the Werewuff.' Not only did it succeed in being incredibly boring to me, though the characters seem to act like just because Kimi is now there, the previous Halloween episode never happened, and they're acting as if this is the first time they've ever celebrated Halloween. What? I understand that NegativeContinuity exists, and many shows follow this trope, though Rugrats usually follows continuity. The original Halloween episode was excellent, so for them to just ignore it in this episode was a Dethroning Moment for me when I was little, and it is for me now.
* @Troper/middone: To be honest, Mommy's Little Assets or whichever one where Charlotte decides it would be a good idea to bring kids to work has always upset me. Everything is too obnoxious for me, especially the fact that Jonathan gets fired when he was honestly trying his best. Charlotte was a bit overkill sometimes, which disappoints me.
** Kishou: At least Jonathan got rehired, but only to be bossed around by Angelica again by being a supervisor of the new daycare, and forced to take care of Tommy and Angelica. Poor guy never caught a break after this.
* Just Another Troper: After reading this list, I'm incredibly surprised nobody has added the episode "Party Animals" to it. This episode, in my opinion, was one of the biggest Stu-torture porns in the whole series. Basically the whole plot of the episode is that Drew and Charlotte have a big costume party at their house. Stu comes dressed up as Tarzan, "king of the jungle" to which Drew tells Stu that King Kong is the real king of the jungle. This leads to an argument that eventually leads to Drew locking Stu out of the house. When Drew refuses to let him back in, Stu decides to climb his way up a drainage pipe so he can climb through an open window. However, his costume becomes stuck and he fails to make it back inside. To make matters worse, the cops show up and arrest him because they think he is some lunatic trying to break into someone else's house. The episode ends with Stu sitting in a cop car as the two cops who arrested him and a diner waitress laugh at him. The absolute worst part of this episode is that nobody at the party tries to look for Stu. In fact, nobody knows that he got locked out in the first place. Not to mention Drew doesn't even get punished for what he did. Keep in mind this whole thing started over an argument over who's "king of the jungle". A simple, petty argument that Drew took too far by locking his own brother out of the house. Drew was the one holding the {{Jerkass Ball}} here, yet Stu, the victim, is the one who received the punishment. It's these kinds of episodes that leave a bad taste in my mouth by the end.
* Tropers/YasminPerry: I'm not a big fan of Dethroning Moment pages in general, but "New Kid In Town" is easily one of the worst episodes of the show, thanks to its cringe-worthy case of FridgeHorror, almost bordering on ValuesDissonance (given that the episode was from the early 90's). Basically, the episode is about how the babies are (rightfully) sick and tired of being bullied and bossed around by Angelica. They meet a new boy, Josh, who at first seems nice and friendly, but turns out to be an even bigger bully than Angelica. Angelica comes and "rescues" the babies from Josh, and they go [[StatusQuoIsGod right back]] to being bullied by her. Where oh where to begin? First of all, the episode has the rather terrible message that, it's better to be bullied by a "lesser" bully than to not be bullied at all, as the babies never consider the possibility of either meeting a new kid that won't bully them like Josh or Angelica, or simply not hanging out with Angelica. Secondly, if the episode is taken as a [[{{Applicability}} metaphor]] for something else, like say, DomesticAbuse, it takes a nose dive straight into creepiness. Thirdly, this is yet ''another'' example in the ''loooong'' list of instances where Angelica is bullying the babies and doesn't get any sort of [[KarmaHoudini comeuppance]] for it. In conclusion, this episode does not only have a terrible moral, it makes me like the show ''in general'' a whole lot less, as I was bullied a ''lot'' growing up, so this episode really hit home for me.
** Tropers/Waters20: Gotta agree with you there. Seriously, the whole WeWantOurJerkBack trope is getting really banal.
* Tropers/SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest: Rugrats has been a childhood favorite show of mine, but there's one episode that's always bothered me: "Day of the Potty." The main reason is because of the opening scene, which even as a child bothered me. What gets the plot going is Chuckie flushing a toy airplane down the toilet. I'd say ItMakesSenseInContext, but it doesn't. When Chuckie explains to his friends why he did it, he gives two reasons, both of which are stupid. The first is that he didn't want to go his whole life without flushing an airplane down the toilet, and the second is that the plane didn't fly, so he figured he'd dispose of it by flushing it down the toilet. I'd expect this level of stupidity from Phil, Lil, or maybe even Tommy. But Chuckie is supposed to be the smartest of the group. The other problem I have with it is that Chuckie is [[KarmaHoudini never punished for what he did]]. If I had flushed a toy airplane down the toilet at his age, [[OffingTheOffspring my parents would have killed me]]. Not out of anger, but because it would be a sign that I would [[TooDumbToLive never function within civilized society]].
** Kishou: Chaz is too much of a wuss to discipline his son, and if Kimi is any indicator, Kira has a bit of hands-off approach to her children. That being said, the episode was pretty stupid. Phil even asks why he didn't flush a sock down instead (which, while still could clog a toilet, wouldn't damage it as much as a toy plane). Chuckie snaps "I don't know why!" and Tommy tries to defend him that it was an accident. Chuckie then admits "Not really". You lost all credibility and excuses that moment, Chuck, and you deserved to be haunted by toilets the whole episode (even though you really weren't).
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: "Strike." Oscar cheats his own daughter and gets away with it, the adults invoke DisportionateRetribution via ParentalAbandonment against the kids for "going on strike" (i.e., ignoring chores until the kids' allowances are raised), and [[OnlySaneMan Trudy]]... goes along with all this. By the way, the "strike" was on the news, right? So did nobody think to call the cops ("Hello, Officer, I'd like to report some large-scale ParentalNeglect -- and my proof is right there on TV.")?! Ultimately, I've invoked EpilepticTrees about this episode: [[AWizardDidIt Al Roker secretly brainwashed the adults.]]

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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: "Strike." Oscar cheats his own daughter and gets away with it, the adults invoke DisportionateRetribution DisproportionateRetribution via ParentalAbandonment against the kids for "going on strike" (i.e., ignoring chores until the kids' allowances are raised), and [[OnlySaneMan Trudy]]... goes along with all this. By the way, the "strike" was on the news, right? So did nobody think to call the cops ("Hello, Officer, I'd like to report some large-scale ParentalNeglect -- and my proof is right there on TV.")?! Ultimately, I've invoked EpilepticTrees about this episode: [[AWizardDidIt Al Roker secretly brainwashed the adults.]]
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: "Strike." Oscar cheats his own daughter and gets away with it, the adults invoke DisportionateRetribution via ParentalAbandonment against the kids for "going on strike" (i.e., ignoring chores until the kids' allowances are raised), and [[OnlySaneMan Trudy]]... goes along with all this. By the way, the "strike" was on the news, right? So did nobody think to call the cops ("Hello, Officer, I'd like to report some large-scale ParentalNeglect -- and my proof is right there on TV.")?! Ultimately, I've invoked EpilepticTrees about this episode: [[AWizardDidIt Al Roker secretly brainwashed the adults.]]
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* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find. However, there is one moment in particular that made angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning", from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses ''real lava!''. At first it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar, who was being more of a {{Jerkass}} than usual, got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.

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* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow The]] [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 Mario]] [[WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld trilogy]] kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find.find (For instance, I avoided playing ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaI'' because I was concerned about meeting the cocky, goggles-wearing Simon Belmont from ''WesternAnimation/CaptainNTheGameMaster''). However, there is one moment in particular that made angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning", from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses ''real lava!''. At first it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar, who was being more of a {{Jerkass}} than usual, got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.
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* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find. However, there is one moment in particular that made angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning", from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses ''real lava!''. At first it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar and Yoshi got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.

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* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find. However, there is one moment in particular that made angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning", from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses ''real lava!''. At first it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar and Yoshi Oogtar, who was being more of a {{Jerkass}} than usual, got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.
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* [=SampaCM=]: I'll start by telling I didn't have a good experience with the animated adaptations of my favorite video games, ''WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfZelda'', ''WesternAnimation/MegaMan'' and ''WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld'' kept me from trying the actual games for years, because I was afraid of what I was going to find. However, there is one moment in particular that made angry like anything else: The episode "A Little Learning", from ''Super Mario World''. In this episode, Iggy and Lemmy Koopa (I refuse to call them their cartoon names) are attending school, run by Princess Toadstool, along with Yoshi and (*sigh*) [[TheScrappy Oogtar]]. As expected, there are fights between the two pairs, with princess even blaming Oogtar for a fight that was clearly started by the Koopa siblings (She's technically correct, as Oogtar got them into trouble to begin with). But the very worst moment comes at the end: at the science fair, Iggy and Lemmy built a volcano, which uses ''real lava!''. At first it seems they know what they're doing, but goes out of control due to Bowser's meddling, so the school gets destroyed, and Iggy, Lemmy and Bowser are thrown down a warp pipe back to the Neon Castle. Now that episode made me angry for various reasons: Iggy and Lemmy really wanted to go to school, but Oogtar and Yoshi got them into trouble with the princess, which is the reason why they decided to start a fight, and showing them off in the science fair, and in the end they were expelled for an accident that was Bowser's fault, essentially ruining the chance of a HeelFaceTurn by the siblings.
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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally-established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake. But by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering everyone on the planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic thing his teammates totally did do, and were specifically told not to. Selfish jerk, much?

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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally-established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake. But by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering everyone on the planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic thing his teammates totally did do, and were specifically told not to. Selfish Duck isn't the only one being a selfish jerk, much?but he's the only one acknowledged by the show.
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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show always had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship just minding its own business. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake, but by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering all the people on the planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic thing his teammates totally did do. And the show itself is on his side.

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** {{Tropers/starofjusticev21}}: As was somewhat hinted above this show always had a little problem with ProtagonistCenteredMorality: Ace and Lexi are the leaders of the team and "cool" and "funny," so they were were always right, where as Danger Duck was kind of a jerk and gloryhound, so he was always wrong. The episode of this show I can't forgive is the one where that problem exploded, “It Came From Outer Space.” In it Tech warns his teammates for the umpteen-millionth time that his crime fighting inventions aren’t toys and for the umpteen-millionth time they don’t listen with Rev and Lexi messing with something they think is a video game. It’s actually the controls to some kind of weapon system, and they just launched actual missiles at an actual spaceship just minding its own business.spaceship. The owner, Melvin the Martian, rather understandably, actually, demands reparation after this unprovoked attack, and eventually agrees not to destroy the world if Lexi agrees to come aboard his ship and be his opponent in two-player games. Ace immediately refuses and says “you want a war, you’ll get one,” even after Tech does an analysis and basically says Melvin is packing enough ordinance to destroy the world ten times over and any attempt to fight him would be suicide. Danger Duck tries to get Ace to change his mind, and I get that he’s supposed to be chickening out and just trying to save his own skin. But consider that the Loonatics are the world’s superhero team who are supposed to save people from danger, not put them in even more danger. Yeah the show’s supposed to be a comedy but 99% of the time the superhero aspect is played totally straight; the Loonatics are treated as deserving every bit of trust and respect they get. I probably wouldn’t bat an eye if the show had gone for more of a ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' vibe where the good guys are comedically incompetent and destructive, but it didn't do that, and we're evidently supposed to see this as them bravely standing by their friend no matter what, instead of facing up to a bad and thoughtless thing they did. I'm not saying Ace should've thrown his teammate and minimally established minimally-established love interest to the wolves the first time she made a mistake, but mistake. But by automatically deciding to fight it out Ace is endangering all the people everyone on the planet he's supposed to be protecting over an extremely idiotic thing his teammates totally did do. And the show itself is on his side.do, and were specifically told not to. Selfish jerk, much?

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Being on the air [[LongRunners for over 18 years]], it's not shocking that ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' is bound to have more than a few [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck bumps]] along the way.
* Tropers/{{philipthepatsy}}: The episode "Arthur's Big Hit". Arthur is making a model plane, which DW won't leave alone, no matter how many times he tells her to not mess with it. When it's finally finished, DW gets a hold of the plane and, thinking it can [[TooDumbToLive fly]], throws it out the window. [[UnstoppableRage Arthur gets incredibly angry]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome punches her in the arm.]] However, the parents side with DW and give the obvious [[AnAesop aesop]] that "hitting is wrong", which falls flat whenever the viewer sides with Arthur. But it gets worse! All of Arthur's friends get on to him for hitting her too! At the end, Binky, who was feeling pressured by his "friends" to punch someone, punches Arthur, the next guy he sees. Yes, Arthur gets a taste of his own medicine, but not even his parents feel any sympathy for him, and [[KarmaHoudini Binky doesn't get any repercussions]] (but at least he apologized). It was [[HandWave handwaved]] that Arthur's parents did punish DW, but it was never seen nor discussed, meaning she probably got off scot-free too. Oh, and this was the second episode (after the episode it was paired with, "DW's Library Card") [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking to feature DW's]] [[TheOtherDarrin new, awful voice.]]
** PurpleShirt: I saw the episode when I was a kid, and I laughed hysterically when Buster of all people was like, "You hit your sister!" I know maybe some kids would think, "Wow, you hit your sister!" and I know you're an only child, but Buster? You know who D.W. is; you're Arthur's best friend! Most kids would side with their friend. When the entire class (even Binky) thought Arthur was bad, it just broke my WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief that the writers think kids would act like that at their age. I can see one or two knowing what Arthur did was wrong, but the whole class? What entire class of eight-year-olds knows about DisproportionateRetribution?! (And if they do, then I would really like to know where they live where the kids act like that -- because that's a very good place to raise a family.) I have family who work in several educational and care-taking fields. They deal with cases or {{Revenge}} and DisproportionateRetribution all the time. The course of action is almost always to tell the charges that they went too far and why it's a bad idea. I mean eff... I know it's trying to teach AnAesop, but the fact that the entire class acts like that (including Binky) just comes off as {{Anvilicious}}.
** SilverWings: I also saw the episode as a kid and D.W's behavior before and after being hit had me convinced that she was faking the entire time. Even when I realized that this wasn't the case, I couldn't sympathize with D.W. because of how she refused to find any fault in her behavior. That coupled with the way Arthur was treated after the incident made this episode feel like more of a ShaggyDogStory.
** Tropers/MsCC93: This episode doesn't sit well with people who don't hate DW either. My problem with this episode is how it missed the potential to teach people to respect other people's property. I think both Arthur and DW should have been punished because both of them were wrong. DW should have never touched Arthur's stuff, and regardless of how you feel about DW, you DON'T hit your younger siblings. I also hate Arthur's parents and put the blame on them for DW being a brat, because they're so stupid for not punishing her for always misbehaving!!!
* Tropers/Baronobeefdip: For me, it's the episode "D.W's Very Very Bad Mood" which shows that her KarmaHoudini and BrattyHalfPint status has gone as far back as season two. Long story short, D.W basically acts like a total brat towards everyone and spends the majority of the episode being whiny and just plain rude to everyone. Arthur is, understandably, sick of his sister's unacceptable behavior and so Francine decides to find out why D.W is acting like such a brat. So, what's the problem? D.W wasn't invited to a birthday party. (Beat) Really? That's why D.W is acting so bratty? What's worse is that the episode expects us to feel sorry for the little brat. Seriously, only once is D.W called out for her bratty behavior and it's a very flimsy attempt at that (Much like the latter episode, "Arthur's Big Hit"). And, no, D.W. being only four is no excuse for her behavior. Oh, and it ends with Francine inviting D.W to her (Francine's, not D.W.'s) party. I mean, if D.W were to simply act all sad throughout the episode, then I wouldn't have such a problem with it. But, no. Instead, she acts like a total bitch and then the episode expects us to feel sorry for her.
* fluffything: Yet another D.W.-related DMOS I'd like to add is the episode "Bleep", because it's the worst handling of subject matter in the series ever. Basically, the episode is about DW learning a "swear" word (We're never told which one or given a pseudo-swear for context) and ends up accidentally getting other people to say it since she doesn't understand what it means. Eventually, she gets into trouble. And, what does her mother tell her about it? "It means 'I want to hurt your feelings'." ... Are you kidding me? No, just... no. That's the laziest and most childish explanation for why people shouldn't swear in polite company I've ever heard. What made ''Arthur'' such a great series is that it handled serious issues like death, Alzheimer's, Asperger's Syndrome, Asthma, Dyslexia, even 9/11[[note]]represented by a fire at Lakewood[[/note]] and cancer with surprising maturity, and it never talked down to its target audience (IE: Children). "Bleep" just tosses all that maturity aside to give a half-assed reason for not swearing and it insults the intelligence of its audience by doing so.
* [=RA2=]: "The Cherry Tree". "Rich bitch" may be a hackneyed insult, but it just fits so perfectly. Muffy gets a gigantic bouncy castle for her party, and unwittingly gives the green light to chop down her favorite cherry tree so that it fits. Perfect opportunity for a lesson about hard decisions, greed, or sacrifices, but eff that, Muffy's too rich to have to deal with consequences. Instead she has her party guests (who are dressed in their nicest clothes) plant new cherry trees. It's supposedly a selfless act, global warming and all, but that's severely diminished by the fact that the trees are on her property - she'll no doubt keep all the cherries for herself.
* ElegantVamp: "[=MacFrensky=]". Muffy gets to go to lunch with the weatherman, even though she instigated Francine to place Buster's toy in Brain's backpack to frame him so Francine would win student of the month. It doesn't stop there, she also begins to frame other students to keep up the lie and makes Francine do it, too. And Brain is okay with this? Yeah, that's a great lesson. It makes Brain come off as a complete doormat, and Muffy is too easily forgiven. Not to mention, since this episode is a WholePlotReference, shouldn't Muffy have been suspended or something (since Lady Theatre/{{MacBeth}} kills herself off-screen near the end of the play)?
* kokoroanime: "Nerve of Steal". Don't take this the wrong, I understand this episode had AnAesop about stealing, but things in this episode [[FromBadToWorse went progressively badder and sadder]]. Buster wants a Cybertoy while everybody else (except for Arthur) has one, but he couldn't get one until his birthday as his mother told him. Then later, he's at the drug store, thinking of taking one Cybertoy from the store without paying for it. So he takes one and puts it in Arthur's bag, but that doesn't stop the security camera from recording the event, as Buster's feeling strange about what trouble he'll be in. Later, he reveals to Arthur the Cybertoy that he put in his bag. Arthur gets mad with Buster for trying to get him in trouble and so, Arthur will help him return the toy that he have stole from the store and didn't tell his parents what happening when he saw it. What the hell, Arthur? You're supposed to let your parents know when something real serious happens around you so that way, your parents will situate this! And later, both of them are returning the toy before leaving the store, but it failed because the clerk found out that there's a Cybertoy was in there, and found a note that they told it. Buster told the truth that he stole it and wanting to know the security camera caught him. Okay, he told him that camera isn't working, but his telephone has so he can call his parents. Does telephones from the early 2000s have cameras in it? No!!! How did the store clerk know his number? Are they friends with them? That clerk is such an idiot for doing that! And now, Buster got grounded for a month for stealing the toy and covering it up, [[DownerEnding which causes a unexpected bad ending, where he won't have that Cybertoy for his birthday]]. Buster, don't you ever do that crap again! That Cybertoy is not going anywhere until your birthday comes! And you too, Brain, you're such a {{Jerkass}} for telling your friend "I'm glad I got one for my birthday" when one's on punishment, [[DudeNotFunny that's bad]].
* AngelLovingDude: For me, the [=DMoS=] for Arthur is season 13's "The Secret Origin of Supernova". Not really a dethroning moment of suck, more of a dethroning episode of suck. The plot is that Arthur and Buster are going to a comic book convention and are going to be cosplaying, with Arthur as Dark Bunny and Buster as Bionic Bunny (which I'm pretty sure the episode "Buster Gets Real" explained he doesn't like anymore). While buying the costumes, Arthur spots an energy drink that he saw Dark Bunny promote on TV. When he takes it to lunch, the Brain says that it's basically junk food which prompts Arthur to throw it away. But then, he hates Dark Bunny because he was promoting something not terribly healthy. Not only is that a very shallow reason to stop liking something, but it's also hypocritical since he's been shown eating unhealthy foods many times before. And then Arthur goes and throws out every single item with Dark Bunny on it. To say Arthur is going overboard is an understatement. Afterwards, he goes to find a new hero. He buys a crapload of merchandise with the hero and I knew where this was going. At the supermarket, he sees cereal promoted by that superhero, and his father tells him it's basically sugar. Which, again, prompts Arthur to throw out everything that he just bought with that superhero. And then he chooses another superhero, which was one he loved when he was younger. At school, Francine sees him drinking from a water bottle with that superhero on it, so she takes him to the Kindergartners, who all find that superhero to be immature. So Arthur throws the bottle away. If I must choose a [=DMoS=], it is this one. Not only has Arthur been extremely wasteful with his money, but the writers just said "Screw you!" to their older fans by saying that you shouldn't like stuff that you enjoyed when you were younger because others might find it immature. Need I remind you that the plot of "That's A Baby Show!" from Season 4 was about Arthur finding a show that he enjoyed but others found immature? That episode has the message of "It's okay to like things that you're not the demographic for." This episode shits all over that nice moral. I hated that one scene so much, I stopped watching that episode and don't care to know what Supernova's titular secret origin is.
* Chimanruler15: I placed my old entry in the wall banger section of this show and replaced its former spot with "Arthur The Loser." Despite teaching a lesson that cheating is wrong, the way it was done was shockingly awful. After Arthur accidentally revealed in front of everyone that he was cheating during most of his recent games, everyone gets mad at him. He states that he has learned his lesson and offers to celebrate his losing at the Sugar Bowl with everyone, but [[JerkAss Francine suggests that everyone instead celebrate the fact that "things are back to normal,"]] and [[WithFriendsLikeThese the entire group head out to do just that, leaving Arthur behind]]. [[TookALevelInJerkAss While Arthur's behavior was most certainly off in this episode]], I find it jarring that everyone seems fine with the fact that Arthur is [[TheWoobie a perpetual loser]] who will never win at anything, especially made worse by the fact that not one person bothers to ask him why he was cheating so much and being such a sore winner. [[WhatTheHellHero Francine even wished earlier in the episode that Arthur would go back to losing all of his games]]. Sure, Arthur is worse as a sore winner than he is as a sore loser, but this episode acts as if there is no middle ground for Arthur; he either cheats or loses, but he can't legitimately win any of his games. I'm surprised that Arthur isn't already emotionally damaged by now.
** jaredthedecimator: Don't forget the part where Fern outright calls Arthur a jerk, something extremely out-of-character for her. Sure, that's an accurate description of how Arthur was acting, but why couldn't it have been Francine who told him this? That would have been more appropriate.
* notahandle: ''On the Buster Scale'' was the first episode from Season 16 that made the rest of it irredeemable. The plot of the episode can be summed up as "Buster and Brain disagree on movies", but everything else made me yell at the screen at the their stupidity. First off, Arthur and the rest of the gang come off as easily manipulated sheeple, agreeing on the two no questions asked. Secondly, Buster gets his own column in the local newspaper, which of course his friends say yes, ending up having one of his reviews being the blurbs on a film billboard. [[SarcasmMode Hooray for nepotism]]. Thirdly, when Buster and Brain show off their reviews in the sugar bowl, an employee asks the two what film should he watch with friends. [[SarcasmMode Because third graders are the utmost authority in cinema.]] Finally and most infuriating Arthur calls out the two critics for their competition, saying that they should respect other people's opinion. Funny enough that he and the rest ate up the reviews, whenever it be Brain's smartassery or Buster's ramblings, showing no sense of self awareness. It would been a better episode if the two were more like Siskel and Ebert, having mixed reactions but overall message of having and respecting different opinions, but this episode seemed to think that getting its message was through [[IdiotBall dumb characters]], [[ConflictBall unneeded conflict]] and abuse to the suspension of disbelief.
* Tropers/{{Tyrekecorrea}} "So Funny I Forgot to Laugh" is actually a wonderful episode title, because it's appalling. Arthur, nice, mild-mannered Arthur, teases Sue Ellen about her sweater. It's not even light, joking around teasing. It's cruel teasing. Not only does Mr. Ratburn have to talk to Arthur and outright tell him that he was bullying, but Arthur goes home and writes a backhanded apology letter, which makes everything worse. Arthur is established and characterized to know much better than that. At the very least, they could have assigned this plot line to a character with a mean streak to make it more believable, but this behavior from Arthur is really disturbing. It's like "What happened, Arthur? Who are you, man?"
** Tropers/{{KrazyTVWatcher}}: I agree with this. To me, the episode would've made much more sense if it were someone like [[JerkAss Binky]] harassing Sue Ellen over her sweater instead of Arthur. Not only that, Francine and Muffy come off as hypocritical bulles, [[HypocriticalHumor especially given the fact that Francine]] [[TheGlassesGottaGo once teased Arthur for wearing glasses in the first place]]. For starters, Mr. Ratburn should've called Arthur's parents to let them know what was going on, and Arthur, despite apologizing to Sue Ellen, [[KarmaHoudini was only punished by writing an apology note]].
* Retloclive: I actually like the message of "The Rat Who Came To Dinner" that teachers are still just normal people outside of class, but good god, Arthur's [[WithFriendsLikeThese so-called friends]] are probably at their worst here. After they learn that Arthur got a better grade than everyone on a recent test, Arthur's friends decide to go about making fun of him at every turn being the teacher's pet just because Mr. Ratburn happens to be temporarily living with the Reeds until his house is fixed. The worst part is that once Ratburn informs his students that he's been allowed to stay at the homes of Arthur's friends instead, they all instantly change course, and beg Arthur to tell them how he got through living with their teacher. While Arthur was nice enough to inform his friends what went down living with Ratburn, I would totally sympathize with him had Arthur just told them to piss off, and figure it out themselves.
* Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: Mine is in "Arthur's Eyes"; when a [=DMos=] is in the first episode, that's saying something. [[OnlySaneMan Buster]] is originally the only one in Arthur's class who doesn't make fun of him, even going as far as calling Francine out about it. Unfortunately, his moment of kindness is refuted during lunch later that day. He grabs two cups, puts them over his eyes, and says "Hey, look! I'm Arthur!" to which Arthur understandably storms out. [[WhatTheHellHero What the hell, Buster]]? I thought you were Arthur's best friend.
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* Tropers/{{KoopaKid17}}: Mine is in "Arthur's Eyes"; when a [=DMos=] is in the first episode, that's saying something. [[OnlySaneMan Buster]] is originally the only one in Arthur's class who doesn't make fun of him, even going as far as calling Francine out about it. Unfortunately, his moment of kindness is refuted during lunch later that day. He grabs two cups, puts them over his eyes, and says "Hey, look! I'm Arthur!" to which Arthur understandably storms out. [[WhatTheHellHero What the hell, Buster]]? I thought you were Arthur's best friend.
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* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: While I love most of Disney's output, one scene in ''Disney/TheAristocats'' drives me absolutely nuts -- the scene with the goose sisters. They're meant to be comic relief but come across as irritating, pushy, and [[UnwantedAssistance doing more to hinder O'Malley than actually help him.]] They seem added only to pad out the story, and end up having little to no effect on the plot -- the cats could have found their way out of the river and to Paris without their "help."

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* Tropers/KenyaStarflight: While I love most of Disney's output, one scene in ''Disney/TheAristocats'' drives me absolutely nuts -- the scene with the goose sisters. They're meant to be comic relief but come across as irritating, pushy, and [[UnwantedAssistance doing more to hinder O'Malley than actually help him.]] him]] -- even almost killing him at one point with their interference! They seem added only to pad out the story, and end up having little to no effect on the plot -- the cats could have found their way out of the river and to Paris without their "help."
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* fluffything: Yet another D.W.-related DMOS I'd like to add is the episode "Bleep", because it's the worst handling of subject matter in the series ever. Basically, the episode is about DW learning a "swear" word (We're never told which one or given a pseudo-swear for context) and ends up accidentally getting other people to say it since she doesn't understand what it means. Eventually, she gets into trouble. And, what does her mother tell her about it? "It means 'I want to hurt your feelings'." ... Are you kidding me? No, just... no. That's the laziest and most childish explanation for why people shouldn't swear in polite company I've ever heard. What made ''Arthur'' such a great series is that it handled serious issues like death, Alzheimer's, Asperger's Syndrome, Asthma, Dyslexia, even 9/11[[note]]represented by a fire at Lakewood[[/note]] and cancer with surprising maturity, and it never talked down to its target audience (IE: Children). "Bleep" just tosses all that maturity aside to give a half-assed reason for not swearing and it insults the intelligence of its audience by doing so.



** fluffything: Agreed. I'm not a fan of ''WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks'' in general, but this episode is just horrible on so many levels. Yes, I know the show takes place in a CrapsackWorld of sorts. Yes, I know it's supposed to be a social satire on urban culture especially regarding African-American citizens. Yes, I know many characters in the show tend to hold the IdiotBall for the sake of comedy or so someone else can provide social commentary. That doesn't excuse how utterly bad this episode was. I know there are fans of musicians that defend them no matter what horrible things said musicians have done (Chris Brown's fandom is a perfect example of this). But, there is no way any universe (not even one as fucked-up as the world portrayed in this cartoon) would have an entire (emphasis on "entire") jury declare a man innocent (despite blatant evidence to the contrary) just because he's a "good singer".



* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/CodenameKidsNextDoor'': There is one moment I feel a good portion of the fandom would agree was the biggest WTF moment of the series. That of course being when they reveal that [[spoiler:Heinrich, Numbah 5's main rival for several episodes is really a girl named "Henrietta".]] Let that sink in for a moment. Esentially, the episode "Operation: C.A.R.A.M.E.L." that shows this reveal centers around magical caramels that require someone to sacrifice a part of themselves to make them delicious (IE: Talent, personality, etc.). Heinrich, we are told, gave up beauty to make said caramels and blamed Numbah 5 for it ever since. Not only was it, apart from the vague "was once beautiful" line, never stated beforehand that Heinrich was really [[spoiler:a girl]], but not once did Numbah 5 ever mention she [[spoiler: had a friend named Henrietta]]. The whole reveal comes completely out of nowhere and is so utterly ridiculous that it feels more like something out of a bad fanfic than an actual episode.



** fluffything: I hate the episode "Ball Of Revenge" (to the point where I'll change the channel if it comes on) as well. Not only was it the lowest point for Eustace, but it also involved him teaming up with several of Courage's past villains (many of which tried to kill/hurt Eustace themselves). But, that's not the DMOS for me. Oh, no. The absolute low point this already awful episode throws at is is the way Courage defeats this enemy team-up. How? He screams at them. Let me repeat that. Courage defeats his worst enemies by screaming at them causing the floor to collapse and them to fall into a hole! I'd like to remind everyone that one of Courage's traits is that, despite being a coward, he's rather clever and usually defeats his enemies by outwitting them (though he does use his compassionate nature at times as well). Oh and let's not forget the fact that he [[PunctuatedForEmphasis never. Gives. Up.]] Or did we forget how he defeated Mecha-Courage by sheer determination alone? Having Courage defeat his enemies by screaming at them not only undermines Courage's whole character, but it utterly ruins the threat the villains possessed in the first place. This isn't a ChekhovsSkill or even anything remotely similar. This the writers [[AssPull pulling utter bull out their respective bums]] and trying to pass it off as good writing.



* fluffything: For me, it was the ResetButton ending for the TV movie "Reality Trip". Long story short, Danny's parents say that they accept him for who he is and that they would never hunt down their own son when they find out he's half ghost. So, what does Danny do? Why, he uses the Reality Gauntlet to rewind time so that none of that ever happened. Umm... Danny? Just how stupid are you? Your parents just said that they accept your half-ghost status and would never try to hurt you, and your reaction is to essentially go back to the past and essentially erase that from history! At least "Phantom Planet" fixed that... somewhat, but it was still a really stupid thing for Danny to do.
** Tropers/{{ILikeCrows}}: Rewinding time made sense to me since his identity had been revealed to the whole world. That still leaves the question of why Danny, now that he knows his parents will accept him, still won't say he's half-ghost.



* fluffything: For me, it was the episode "Dexter and Computress Get Mandark" that was "created" (IE: He provided the audio track) by a six year-old kid. No, saying "But he's just a child" doesn't excuse how utterly terrible it is. There have been children who have created far better works of entertainment than this. Long story short, the episode is about nothing but utter randomness...and not in a good way. Dexter and some robot (named Computress) cause Mandark's head to shrink and then accidentally cause it to grow until it explodes and tiny Mandark heads fall from the sky. Oh, and there's an OverlyLongGag involving Dexter calling Computress "stupid". It's like a poorly written TrollFic than anything else. About the only good thing about it is the ArtShift from the show's normal style to a more "crayon drawing" look, which I felt fit the whole "a kid made it" theme. Too bad the rest of the episode was horrible.



* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'': I found the episode "Be A-Fred, Be Very A-Fred" where Fred Fredburger wins a contest and gets to spend time with Grim. It's just filled with so many facepalm-inducing moments that I just don't know where to begin. First, Grim is such a [[ButtMonkey loser]] now that the only work he can get is being in laxative commercials? And, not only that, but said laxative company is now doing poorly because apparently no one wants to buy something endorsed by death himself? Let me remind everyone that said laxatives are being sold to demons (IE: Immortal monsters of evil (or chaotic neutral in the case of TGAOBAM) that most likely speak to Grim on a daily basis). Second, Fred Fredburger is just more annoying than usual here. At least in ''Keeper Of The Reaper'' his annoying antics were funny. This? He's just stupid for the sake of being stupid (Though, I did find him being amazed by a simple lamp to be pretty amusing... but that's just a silver lining in this turd cloud of an episode). Third, [[OverlyLongGag the way too long and not funny at all]] gag of Grim trying to get his picture taken with Fred resulting in Fred losing his frozen yogurt (Which, by the way, was what Fred wanted to do with Grim). You know, you could just buy another one or waited until he was done eating, Grim. Instead, they take Fred to an amusement park where Fred is sent flying from a Tilt-A-Whirl (... What?) and ends up meeting a group of Yetis that all talk like him and offer him frozen yogurt, all while [[DudeNotFunny a crying Grim is violently beaten by the laxative company executives for letting Fred go.]] Yes, that's how the short ends. It's like watching a train filled with disabled orphans crash into a burning building. Not funny and painful to watch.
** Animeking1108: If they ever air "The Grim Show" in reruns, I tend to change the channel. After Grim becomes a TV sensation, he spends less time with Billy and Mandy. However, Mandy decides to humiliate Grim and get his show cancelled. Why? [[DisproportionateRetribution Because he wasn't doing her chores]]. The episode ends with Grim sobbing. [[SadistShow Apparently, for this show, it's not a good ending until Grim suffers]].

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* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy'': I found the episode "Be A-Fred, Be Very A-Fred" where Fred Fredburger wins a contest and gets to spend time with Grim. It's just filled with so many facepalm-inducing moments that I just don't know where to begin. First, Grim is such a [[ButtMonkey loser]] now that the only work he can get is being in laxative commercials? And, not only that, but said laxative company is now doing poorly because apparently no one wants to buy something endorsed by death himself? Let me remind everyone that said laxatives are being sold to demons (IE: Immortal monsters of evil (or chaotic neutral in the case of TGAOBAM) that most likely speak to Grim on a daily basis). Second, Fred Fredburger is just more annoying than usual here. At least in ''Keeper Of The Reaper'' his annoying antics were funny. This? He's just stupid for the sake of being stupid (Though, I did find him being amazed by a simple lamp to be pretty amusing... but that's just a silver lining in this turd cloud of an episode). Third, [[OverlyLongGag the way too long and not funny at all]] gag of Grim trying to get his picture taken with Fred resulting in Fred losing his frozen yogurt (Which, by the way, was what Fred wanted to do with Grim). You know, you could just buy another one or waited until he was done eating, Grim. Instead, they take Fred to an amusement park where Fred is sent flying from a Tilt-A-Whirl (... What?) and ends up meeting a group of Yetis that all talk like him and offer him frozen yogurt, all while [[DudeNotFunny a crying Grim is violently beaten by the laxative company executives for letting Fred go.]] Yes, that's how the short ends. It's like watching a train filled with disabled orphans crash into a burning building. Not funny and painful to watch.
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* fluffything: I can respect parody done well. I can respect parodies of my favorite shows done well. The MAD sketch "Ancient Greek Mythbusters" is not a parody done well by any stretch of the imagination. This feels more like a mean-spirited TakeThat towards an awesome series rather than an AffectionateParody. Oh, let me count the ways this sketch is a DMOS. You've got Grant being chewed-up by a T.Rex as a pointless throwaway gag. You've got Adam and Jamie being incompetent JerkAss morons not having any sense of logic to their "experiments" (InsaneTrollLogic would be considered the words of a genius compared to this). The utterly unfunny joke about Mythbusters only being watchable due to the sheer number of explosions (Because clearly we nerds only want to see explosions in an awesome educational series that debunks urban legends. Really? No.). Also, the pointless ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' reference at the end? Just...ugh....



* fluffything: For me, it was when they decided to turn Dogpound into [[spoiler:Rahzar]]. Why, just, why? Dogpound was just fine as a separate character and villain. There was no reason to have him mutate further into a skeletal dog-thing and rename him [[spoiler:Rahzar]]. The two characters aren't really all that similar except for both being canines. Dogpound was a human mutated into a dog, and [[spoiler:Rahzar is a mutated wolf.]] It just feels like the writers wanted to throw in an EnsembleDarkhorse character just as a blatant attempt to get the attention of fans of the classic cartoons and the movies. However, if that's what they wanted, why not just have [[spoiler:Razhar]] be a separate character rather than have him be a transformed Dogpound? The whole thing just comes off as lazy. Guys, if you're going to bring [[spoiler:Rahzar]] into the series, then actually have the real deal instead of this pathetic skeletal Dogpound wannabe.



** fluffything: For me, it was even earlier than that when Kevin mutates into a monster once again after absorbing the Omnitrix's powers. Now, you'd think the writers would have Kevin struggling once again with being a mutation and trying to live a somewhat normal life while being a monster or maybe trying to control his new-found powers and keep himself from turning evil again. But, nope, instead he just instantly turns insane and Ben now has to fight him once again. And, to make matters worse, the explanation as to why Kevin went insane again? Because it's what his species does when they absorb certain types of energy. That's right. The writers completely tossed aside the fact that Kevin was a sociopath from the start and gave him a crappy "It's in my DNA so it's not my fault" FreudianExcuse to explain his HeelFaceTurn and his FaceHeelTurn. No, just... god, no.



* fluffything:''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness'': I find the episode in which Po has to rely on the help of some elderly former kung-fu masters to be poorly handled. The episode in-and-of itself is quite good, and I really enjoyed the whole sequence with the various magical helmets. But the moral of [[AnAesop "don't judge a book by its cover"]] and [[CoolOldGuy "old people can do amazing things too."]] is pretty much [[BrokenAesop busted by one simple observation:]] Po's reasoning for not wanting the elderly kung-fu fighters to help is that he was afraid they'd get hurt due to their old age, which is actually a rather valid argument. Yes, he did point out that he believed they weren't as "awesome" as they were in their prime, but his main concern was their well-being. Yet, the episode treats it like he was being disrespectful. Why?
** SamMax: I never paid too much attention to the show, the episode "Mind Over Manners" made sure I won't watch it much, if at all. Basically, Po suddenly gets mind reading powers. He is warned that that he could go insane from them. He ignores this, but then, as time goes on, he really does start to go mad from them. The Furious Five witness this, and they head back to the training grounds. You would think they'd try to calm him down, right? If you said yes, then you're not the writer of this episode, since instead, they start thinking thoughts solely to aggravate him further. Shifu tells them to stop, but Po's ran away by then. [[DudeNotFunny This wasn't funny]], and made the Furious Five come off as {{Jerkass}}es. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini they don't receive punishment for this]], nor even a WhatTheHellHero moment, giving me a nagging feeling that [[DesignatedHero we're supposed to agree with this act]]. WithFriendsLikeThese, I wonder why Po even hangs around them.
* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/TUFFPuppy'': The episode where Professor Birdbrain discovers a parallel dimension where Booby Birds rule and live in paradise and wants to go there to have the biggest YankTheDogsChain I've ever seen. Long story short, Birdbrain kidnapps a monkey boy band (don't ask) and wants to use their singing powers to open a portal to the other dimension. Ok, apart from the kidnapping, his plans aren't really that evil. But, the DMOS comes in when Keswick reveals that traveling from one dimension to another causes the former dimension to be destroyed. I'm sorry... What? So, rather than just allowing Birdbrain to finally [[EarnYourHappyEnding be able to find happiness and fly (his main goal)]], they have to throw in this utterly ridiculous twist? Again, apart from the kidnapping, Birdbrain's plans were not evil. He just wanted to go somewhere where he could fit in.

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* fluffything:''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness'': I find the episode in which Po has to rely on the help of some elderly former kung-fu masters to be poorly handled. The episode in-and-of itself is quite good, and I really enjoyed the whole sequence with the various magical helmets. But the moral of [[AnAesop "don't judge a book by its cover"]] and [[CoolOldGuy "old people can do amazing things too."]] is pretty much [[BrokenAesop busted by one simple observation:]] Po's reasoning for not wanting the elderly kung-fu fighters to help is that he was afraid they'd get hurt due to their old age, which is actually a rather valid argument. Yes, he did point out that he believed they weren't as "awesome" as they were in their prime, but his main concern was their well-being. Yet, the episode treats it like he was being disrespectful. Why?
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*SamMax: I never paid too much attention to the show, ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPandaLegendsOfAwesomeness'', the episode "Mind Over Manners" made sure I won't watch it much, if at all. Basically, Po suddenly gets mind reading powers. He is warned that that he could go insane from them. He ignores this, but then, as time goes on, he really does start to go mad from them. The Furious Five witness this, and they head back to the training grounds. You would think they'd try to calm him down, right? If you said yes, then you're not the writer of this episode, since instead, they start thinking thoughts solely to aggravate him further. Shifu tells them to stop, but Po's ran away by then. [[DudeNotFunny This wasn't funny]], and made the Furious Five come off as {{Jerkass}}es. To make matters worse, [[KarmaHoudini they don't receive punishment for this]], nor even a WhatTheHellHero moment, giving me a nagging feeling that [[DesignatedHero we're supposed to agree with this act]]. WithFriendsLikeThese, I wonder why Po even hangs around them.
* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/TUFFPuppy'': The episode where Professor Birdbrain discovers a parallel dimension where Booby Birds rule and live in paradise and wants to go there to have the biggest YankTheDogsChain I've ever seen. Long story short, Birdbrain kidnapps a monkey boy band (don't ask) and wants to use their singing powers to open a portal to the other dimension. Ok, apart from the kidnapping, his plans aren't really that evil. But, the DMOS comes in when Keswick reveals that traveling from one dimension to another causes the former dimension to be destroyed. I'm sorry... What? So, rather than just allowing Birdbrain to finally [[EarnYourHappyEnding be able to find happiness and fly (his main goal)]], they have to throw in this utterly ridiculous twist? Again, apart from the kidnapping, Birdbrain's plans were not evil. He just wanted to go somewhere where he could fit in.
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** fluffything: The 2013 season finale has one of the most annoying, pointless, utterly [[YankTheDogsChain yank the audience's chain]] twists I have ever seen. For over a week, Creator/CartoonNetwork kept showing us advertisements on Hiccup finding out hints of an island full of Night Furies. So, what happens? [[spoiler:It turns out the whole thing was a fake and was a trap set by Alvin and Mildew.]] Seriously, just fuckin' seriously? Why use a major plot element regarding one of the main characters of the series just for a bloody cop-out involving two re-occuring villains that have worn out their welcome already? I looked forward to this episode hoping I'd see more Night Furies (or at least a big reveal as to what happened to them). Not the cliched [[MemeticMutation "It's a trap!"]] scenario that we've seen a thousand times before.



* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow''. Good lords was the episode "The DMV" where Daffy, Lola, and Porky have to go to the DMV to get their driver's licenses an absolute mess. I couldn't even sit through the whole thing. That's how bad it was. Why? Let me count the ways. First, every character is holding the IdiotBall. I can understand Lola not knowing what a driver's licence is since she's [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} a bit dim-witted and crazy]] but Daffy? The guy makes a habit out of using fake names all the time! You'd think he'd have a fake licence or two lying around. Second, they use the [[PunctuatedForEmphasis exact. Same. Jokes. Within. The. Same. Ten. Minutes.]] The most prominent being characters not knowing what a driver's licence is and them switching their tests with Porky's resulting in him failing. There's lazy writing, and then there's just using copy-n-paste on a computer and switching a few names around to fill a half-hour series. For the love of Mel Blanc, I expect this kind of sloppy work from a latter-season episode of ''WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants'' or ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', not from this otherwise fun series.



* fluffything: ''WesternAnimation/ScaredySquirrel'': The episode involving the robot vacuum had one of the most blatant, idiotic, and utterly god-awful examples of KarmaHoudini I've ever seen. Basically, the episode involves Scaredy purchasing a robot vacuum from a crocodile salesman (No, he's not a villain, surprisingly) and absolutely adoring it. This causes Dave to become jealous (Despite Dave knowing Scaredy is [[SuperOCD obsessed with cleaning and organization]]) and spills his drink onto the vacuum. This causes the vacuum to go berserk and summon an army of robot vacuums to terrorize the city. Let's review exactly who is at fault here in the episode. Absolutely none of the problems that occurred would've happened had it not been for Dave. And, what sort of punishment does Dave get for not only causing the vacuum to break but for breaking his best friend's prized possession? Absolutely nothing! That's right. Not once is Dave even called-out for his actions in the episode. He gets away with his actions. Scaredy, erm, maybe you should find friends who don't blatantly break your possessions and cause a city-wide disaster!



* fluffything: For me, it was during the series finale of ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'' when Kurt and Rogue pretty much diss Mystique who is clearly trying to at the very least apologize for her behavior. Yes, Mystique is a villain, yes she has done horrible things to the X-Men (Kurt and Rogue included), but, there's a difference between trying to destroy your enemies and trying to make amends with your own children. Now, I can understand Rogue refusing to accept her apologies, but Kurt? One of Kurt's main character traits is that he's compassionate, understanding, and forgiving. Not to mention that, earlier in the season, he was genuinely heartbroken when he thought his own mother had died. [[SarcasmMode Way to be a great son, Kurt! Instead of forgiving your mother's actions and trying to start anew with her, just blow her off like a petty child!]]
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** Tropers//{{ScotieRw}} I have an issue or two with the final episode, most of them forgivable, except for one. Ashi's cessation of existence. Why did she not vanish when Aku died, but instead last long enough to plan a wedding and gather people from all over the world to attend? It feels like they creators wanted to play with or emotions by tricking us into thinking we'd get a happy ending, only to be like "Lol I lied." or something. Very dickish.

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** Tropers//{{ScotieRw}} I have an issue or two with the final episode, most of them forgivable, except for one. Ashi's cessation of existence. Why did she not vanish when Aku died, but instead last long enough to plan a wedding and gather people from all over the world to attend? It feels like they creators wanted to play with or our emotions by tricking us into thinking we'd get a happy ending, only to be like "Lol I lied." or something. Very dickish.
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** Tropers/{{Komatsuzaki}}: If they had just put a little bit of foreshadowing at the very beginning of the movie that Phineas would freak out at something like this, then it wouldn't have been so jarring. But for such a friendly character in such a silly show to react like that when he finds out his pet is a secret agent? Come on. It even sounds ridiculous to point out.
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** Tropers/{{Komatsuzaki}}: I second this so hard. I remember literally nothing from the Flintstones except for this episode. I must have been 11 or 12 when I saw it, but it made me so angry that there was no restitution for what everyone did to Fred.
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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... [[WhatAnIdiot as he's leaving]]. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get is him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imagine hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.

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* Tropers/{{Pgj1997}}: Probably the most infamous episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThomasTheTankEngine'' is "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS15E17WonkyWhistle Wonky Whistle]]", and I couldn't agree more. Most Thomas fans already know the plethora of problems with this episode, but for the sake of everyone else, I'll go over them anyway. So the plot of the episode is that Thomas is getting his whistle fixed when Sir Topham Hatt asks him to pick up and deliver animals to the "country show", and advertise it on the way. Thomas (who's supposed to be a role model for children by the way) rushes off excitedly before the repairmen finish fixing his whistle. Okay, two problems right off the bat. First off, [[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E5ThomasTrain Thomas already learned the importance of patience way back in season one]], so Thomas shouldn't have to learn this moral again. Really, you can replace Thomas with any other engine, and this wouldn't be a problem. Secondly, the writers fail to stay accurate to how a steam engine actually works. A whistle doesn't just magically become a slide whistle when it breaks like it does in the episode. If you want to know what an ''actual'' broken whistle sounds like, watch the episode "[[Recap/ThomasTheTankEngineS1E20WhistlesAndSneezes Whistles & Sneezes]]", it's much more accurate. Continuing on with the story, Thomas collects the animals, but rushes off before the farmworkers fully close the door on the car. He's blissfully unaware about the constant banging the door is making right behind him as he travels. On his way to the country show, Thomas stops to advertise it, blowing his whistle afterwards. This causes one of the animals to escape from the car, and we reach the exact same problem. He's blissfully unaware that there's something wrong with his whistle that he's heard like a million times before hand, and that the animals are escaping right behind him. Yes, they try to tell him but, get this, he mistakes it for them saying hello... [[WhatAnIdiot as he's leaving]]. Thomas does not get punished for doing any of this one bit. He's even called a "really useful engine" by the end of it. Why? The only thing we get is him realizing his mistake, and recapping what we already know. [[SpaceWhaleAesop Yes kids, you can be as ignorant as all hell, but as long as you admit that you were, you won't suffer any consequences]]. Now, I can't talk about Wonky Whistle without talking about what's arguably the biggest problem with this episode: the constant rhyming and alliteration. Of course, this is a Miller-era episode, so that sort of thing is expected, but it's really apparent here, and it gets really grating. I've counted. There's a total of 54 rhymes and alliterations in this episode. 54. Imagine hearing that for 8 minutes straight. That's this episode. So even if you try to look past the story problems, you're still annoyed by the dialogue. So there's nothing salvageable. It's not hard to see why people hate this episode so much. It's annoying, frustrating, and makes a character incomprehensibly stupid for the sake of the plot. Thankfully, the person who wrote this episode, Neil Ben, [[NoHitWonder never wrote another Thomas episode ever again]], and praise the lord for that.
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** Tropers/{{ilovededede}}: Since "Brawl in the Family" is taken I'll go with "Come Sale Away", because not only is nearly everyone flanderized into idiots for the sake of the cliche sibling competition plot with no comedy to make it worth it but has a victory dance gag that makes me wanna punch a hole through my computer. And this isn't even a one-time joke, it's a '''RunningGag''', ''and the episode ends with a long, cringey, and painful sequence of this running gag''. Just...screw this episode.

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** Tropers/{{ilovededede}}: Since "Brawl in the Family" is taken I'll go with "Come Sale Away", because not only is nearly everyone flanderized into idiots for the sake of the cliche sibling competition plot with no comedy to make it worth it but has a victory dance gag that makes me wanna punch a hole through my computer. And this isn't even a one-time joke, it's a '''RunningGag''', ''and RunningGag, and the episode ends with a long, cringey, and painful sequence of this running gag''.gag. Just... screw this episode.
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** Tropers/{{ilovededede}}: Since "Brawl in the Family" is taken I'll go with "Come Sale Away", because not only is nearly everyone flanderized into idiots for the sake of the cliche sibling competition plot with no comedy to make it worth it but has a victory dance gag that makes me wanna punch a hole through my computer. And this isn't even a one-time joke, it's a '''RunningGag''', ''and the episode ends with a long, cringey, and painful sequence of this running gag'''. Just...screw this episode.

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** Tropers/{{ilovededede}}: Since "Brawl in the Family" is taken I'll go with "Come Sale Away", because not only is nearly everyone flanderized into idiots for the sake of the cliche sibling competition plot with no comedy to make it worth it but has a victory dance gag that makes me wanna punch a hole through my computer. And this isn't even a one-time joke, it's a '''RunningGag''', ''and the episode ends with a long, cringey, and painful sequence of this running gag'''.gag''. Just...screw this episode.
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** Tropers/{{ilovededede}}: Since "Brawl in the Family" is taken I'll go with "Come Sale Away", because not only is nearly everyone flanderized into idiots for the sake of the cliche sibling competition plot with no comedy to make it worth it but has a victory dance gag that makes me wanna punch a hole through my computer. And this isn't even a one-time joke, it's a '''RunningGag''', ''and the episode ends with a long, cringey, and painful sequence of this running gag'''. Just...screw this episode.
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* Retloclive: I actually like the message of "The Rat Who Came To Dinner" that teachers are still just normal people outside of class, but good god, Arthur's [[WithFriendsLikeThese so-called friends]] are probably at their worst here. After they learn that Arthur got a better grade than everyone on a recent test, Arthur's friends decide to go about making fun of him at every turn being the teacher's pet just because Mr. Ratburn happens to be temporarily living with the Reeds until his house is fixed. The worst part is that once Ratburn informs his students that he's been allowed to stay at the homes of Arthur's friends instead, they all instantly change course, and beg Arthur to tell them how he got through living with their teacher. While Arthur was nice enough to inform his friends what went down living with Ratburn, I would totally sympathize with him had Arthur just told them to piss off, and figure it out themselves.
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** Tropers/SpaceBird: That wasn't the first time, either. Almost every episode that Granny May appears in, she manages to charm the townspeople into turning against WordGirl, despite being one of the most notorious villains that went to jail several times. You would've thought that the townspeople would've gained some knowledge of her deception after each episode, but nope, she keeps on manipulating them even without Mr. Big's use of mind control! What's worse about this is that each time it happens, everyone starts showing WordGirl extremely hostile behavior and threaten to run her out of town! Although Granny's the main villain who manages to turn everyone against WordGirl most of the time, the Butcher once managed to do so just by saying that his bootleg artwork is real and that WordGirl's just trying to lie to everyone, and even with that lame excuse they believed him and threatened to arrest WordGirl if she interrupted his next auction. WhatTheHellTownspeople

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** Tropers/SpaceBird: That wasn't the first time, either. Almost every episode that Granny May appears in, she manages to charm the townspeople into turning against WordGirl, [=WordGirl=], despite being one of the most notorious villains that went to jail several times. You would've thought that the townspeople would've gained some knowledge of her deception after each episode, but nope, she keeps on manipulating them even without Mr. Big's use of mind control! What's worse about this is that each time it happens, everyone starts showing WordGirl [=WordGirl=] extremely hostile behavior and threaten to run her out of town! Although Granny's the main villain who manages to turn everyone against WordGirl [=WordGirl=] most of the time, the Butcher once managed to do so just by saying that his bootleg artwork is real and that WordGirl's [=WordGirl=]'s just trying to lie to everyone, and even with that lame excuse they believed him and threatened to arrest WordGirl [=WordGirl=] if she interrupted his next auction. WhatTheHellTownspeople
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* AngelLovingDude: For me, the [=DMoS=] for Arthur is season 13's "The Secret Origin of Supernova". Not really a dethroning moment of suck, more of a dethroning episode of suck. The plot is that Arthur and Buster are going to a comic book convention and are going to be cosplaying, with Arthur as Dark Bunny and Buster as Bionic Bunny (which I'm pretty sure the episode "Buster Gets Real" explained he doesn't like anymore). While buying the costumes, Arthur spots an energy drink that he saw Dark Bunny promote on TV. When he takes it to lunch, the Brain says that it's basically junk food which prompts Arthur to throw it away. But then, he hates Dark Bunny because he was promoting something not terribly healthy. Not only is that a very shallow reason to stop liking something, but it's also hypocritical since in "D.W.'s Name Game", Arthur shoved a slice of cake in his mouth. And then Arthur goes and throws out every single item with Dark Bunny on it. To say Arthur is going overboard is an understatement. Afterwards, he goes to find a new hero. He buys a crapload of merchandise with the hero and I knew where this was going. At the supermarket, he sees cereal promoted by that superhero, and his father tells him it's basically sugar. Which, again, prompts Arthur to throw out everything that he just bought with that superhero. And then he chooses another superhero, which was one he loved when he was younger. At school, Francine sees him drinking from a water bottle with that superhero on it, so she takes him to the Kindergartners, who all find that superhero to be immature. So Arthur throws the bottle away. If I must choose a [=DMoS=], it is this one. Not only has Arthur been extremely wasteful with his money, but the writers just said "Screw you!" to their older fans by saying that you shouldn't like stuff that you enjoyed when you were younger because others might find it immature. Need I remind you that the plot of "That's A Baby Show!" from Season 4 was about Arthur finding a show that he enjoyed but others found immature? That episode has the message of "It's okay to like things that you're not the demographic for." This episode shits all over that nice moral. I hated that one scene so much, I stopped watching that episode and don't care to know what Supernova's titular secret origin is.

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* AngelLovingDude: For me, the [=DMoS=] for Arthur is season 13's "The Secret Origin of Supernova". Not really a dethroning moment of suck, more of a dethroning episode of suck. The plot is that Arthur and Buster are going to a comic book convention and are going to be cosplaying, with Arthur as Dark Bunny and Buster as Bionic Bunny (which I'm pretty sure the episode "Buster Gets Real" explained he doesn't like anymore). While buying the costumes, Arthur spots an energy drink that he saw Dark Bunny promote on TV. When he takes it to lunch, the Brain says that it's basically junk food which prompts Arthur to throw it away. But then, he hates Dark Bunny because he was promoting something not terribly healthy. Not only is that a very shallow reason to stop liking something, but it's also hypocritical since in "D.W.'s Name Game", Arthur shoved a slice of cake in his mouth.he's been shown eating unhealthy foods many times before. And then Arthur goes and throws out every single item with Dark Bunny on it. To say Arthur is going overboard is an understatement. Afterwards, he goes to find a new hero. He buys a crapload of merchandise with the hero and I knew where this was going. At the supermarket, he sees cereal promoted by that superhero, and his father tells him it's basically sugar. Which, again, prompts Arthur to throw out everything that he just bought with that superhero. And then he chooses another superhero, which was one he loved when he was younger. At school, Francine sees him drinking from a water bottle with that superhero on it, so she takes him to the Kindergartners, who all find that superhero to be immature. So Arthur throws the bottle away. If I must choose a [=DMoS=], it is this one. Not only has Arthur been extremely wasteful with his money, but the writers just said "Screw you!" to their older fans by saying that you shouldn't like stuff that you enjoyed when you were younger because others might find it immature. Need I remind you that the plot of "That's A Baby Show!" from Season 4 was about Arthur finding a show that he enjoyed but others found immature? That episode has the message of "It's okay to like things that you're not the demographic for." This episode shits all over that nice moral. I hated that one scene so much, I stopped watching that episode and don't care to know what Supernova's titular secret origin is.
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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: Episode C, specifically [[spoiler:The Guardian being (most likely) KilledOffscreen and his portal being destroyed after all -- thus (probably) wasting an EnsembleDarkhorse and reducing all of that ChosenOne hype to a disappointing AntiClimax and RedHerring]].

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** Tropers/{{Peridonyx}}: Episode C, specifically [[spoiler:The Guardian being (most likely) KilledOffscreen and his portal being destroyed after all -- thus (probably) wasting an EnsembleDarkhorse and reducing all of that ChosenOne hype to a disappointing AntiClimax and RedHerring]].
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** Tropers//{{ScotieRw}} I have an issue or two with the final episode, most of them forgivable, except for one. Ashi's cessation of existence. Why did she not vanish when Aku died, but instead last long enough to plan a wedding and gather people from all over the world to attend? It feels like they creators wanted to play with or emotions by tricking us into thinking we'd get a happy ending, only to be like "Lol I lied." or something. Very dickish.
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** Tropers/{{KrazyTVWatcher}}: I agree, especially given that [[DumbBlonde Dee Dee was the one who caused this whole fiasco in the first place]].
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** Tropers/{{KrazyTVWatcher}}: I agree with this. To me, the episode would've made much more sense if it were someone like [[JerkAss Binky]] harassing Sue Ellen over her sweater instead of Arthur. Not only that, Francine and Muffy come off as hypocritical bulles, [[HypocriticalHumor especially given the fact that Francine]] [[TheGlassesGottaGo once teased Arthur for wearing glasses in the first place]]. For starters, Mr. Ratburn should've called Arthur's parents to let them know what was going on, and Arthur, despite apologizing to Sue Ellen, [[KarmaHoudini was only punished by writing an apology note]].
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* [=InTheGallbladder=]: I absolutely love WesternAnimation/WeBareBears, with the exception of "The Road." I don't like the cubs--they aren't well-written, and their actors don't have the necessary experience, by sheer dint of their age. Giving them the lead roles for an entire episode was a dangerous decision. Putting a musical number in this episode was a suicidal one.

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* [=InTheGallbladder=]: I absolutely love WesternAnimation/WeBareBears, with the exception of "The Road." I don't like the cubs--they aren't well-written, and their actors don't are too young to have the necessary experience, by sheer dint of their age.experience. Giving them the lead roles for an entire episode was a dangerous decision. Putting Said episode featuring a serious musical number in this episode was a suicidal one.

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